Was the ending a hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory
#53851
Posté 09 mai 2012 - 10:59
#53852
Posté 09 mai 2012 - 10:59
The whole thing is sadly crap, in the first 20 minutes there were at least 4 things he claims that can be denied just by using his footage.SS2Dante wrote...
Aaarg trying to watch that Indoctrination Theory documentary but the guy is overreaching so badly. Claiming the noises you hear in the dreams and after being hit by the laser could be described as "oily shadows" is just too much. Ignoring the fact that the Rachni don't "hear" the way we do, it's just annoying people will see this early on and think IT is full of crap :@
#53853
Posté 09 mai 2012 - 11:00
#53854
Posté 09 mai 2012 - 11:01
MegumiAzusa wrote...
Ya but you have to wear it in MP if you go Human Adept.HellishFiend wrote...
MegumiAzusa wrote...
Urg I hate that mask, it's so ugly
I hate masks in general. This is Commander Shepard we're talking about here, not Master Chief.
Adding the option to hide masks/helmets in cutscenes and dialog is second only to High Dynamic Range on my list of favorite new feature/options in ME3.
I dont mind masks on generic human characters, nor that one in particular. I just dont like them on Shepard. Besides, that mask is actually kinda cool if you customize the color. =P
Modifié par HellishFiend, 09 mai 2012 - 11:02 .
#53855
Posté 09 mai 2012 - 11:02
MegumiAzusa wrote...
Ya but you have to wear it in MP if you go Human Adept.HellishFiend wrote...
MegumiAzusa wrote...
Urg I hate that mask, it's so ugly
I hate masks in general. This is Commander Shepard we're talking about here, not Master Chief.
Adding the option to hide masks/helmets in cutscenes and dialog is second only to High Dynamic Range on my list of favorite new feature/options in ME3.
which is why I for example never play as a human (except when I only had them available).
#53856
Posté 09 mai 2012 - 11:04
The problem is as she is the only one with Singularity her skillset is quite interestingMaximizedAction wrote...
MegumiAzusa wrote...
Ya but you have to wear it in MP if you go Human Adept.HellishFiend wrote...
MegumiAzusa wrote...
Urg I hate that mask, it's so ugly
I hate masks in general. This is Commander Shepard we're talking about here, not Master Chief.
Adding the option to hide masks/helmets in cutscenes and dialog is second only to High Dynamic Range on my list of favorite new feature/options in ME3.
which is why I for example never play as a human (except when I only had them available).
#53857
Posté 09 mai 2012 - 11:04
#53858
Posté 09 mai 2012 - 11:09
MegumiAzusa wrote...
The whole thing is sadly crap, in the first 20 minutes there were at least 4 things he claims that can be denied just by using his footage.SS2Dante wrote...
Aaarg trying to watch that Indoctrination Theory documentary but the guy is overreaching so badly. Claiming the noises you hear in the dreams and after being hit by the laser could be described as "oily shadows" is just too much. Ignoring the fact that the Rachni don't "hear" the way we do, it's just annoying people will see this early on and think IT is full of crap :@
Had such potential during the intro as well
One of these days this thread should totally make an indoctrination video.
...if I'm not doing the work
Actually, not even true. once my exams are finished and I get back my PVR I might try
#53859
Posté 09 mai 2012 - 11:10
Anyone who's really interested in the IT will inevitably land here... It's the best source of informations and what's more interesting, there isn't just only one opinion about it (although a certain consensus is already made).It makes me think about how the Geth are governing themselves...SS2Dante wrote...
Aaarg trying to watch that Indoctrination Theory documentary but the guy is overreaching so badly. Claiming the noises you hear in the dreams and after being hit by the laser could be described as "oily shadows" is just too much. Ignoring the fact that the Rachni don't "hear" the way we do, it's just annoying people will see this early on and think IT is full of crap :@
#53860
Posté 09 mai 2012 - 11:10
SS2Dante wrote...
I know it's been brought up before, but since people have been analysing the breath scene again has anyone managed to get any useful shot at the bloody patch Shepard seems to have? According to the original script (s)he gets rebar through the leg after the blast, and it seems to be the leg that the bloods on, but my poor un-amplified eyes can never catch anything else.
Which bloody patch the one on the leg or on the waist? Or about the body? I've got a few I can upload just give me a general idea of what.
#53861
Posté 09 mai 2012 - 11:11
SS2Dante wrote...
I know it's been brought up before, but since people have been analysing the breath scene again has anyone managed to get any useful shot at the bloody patch Shepard seems to have? According to the original script (s)he gets rebar through the leg after the blast, and it seems to be the leg that the bloods on, but my poor un-amplified eyes can never catch anything else.
Yeah, there are cables around his legs and it would be interestin to see if it is acually IN his leg.
If it is in fact IN his leg, they would have be some pretty stiff cables, no?
Now here is where the speculation hits, he wakes up, still hallucinating, and the cables actually are rebar. That's a stretch I know.
#53862
Posté 09 mai 2012 - 11:13
SS2Dante wrote...
I know it's been brought up before, but since people have been analysing the breath scene again has anyone managed to get any useful shot at the bloody patch Shepard seems to have? According to the original script (s)he gets rebar through the leg after the blast, and it seems to be the leg that the bloods on, but my poor un-amplified eyes can never catch anything else.

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#53863
Posté 09 mai 2012 - 11:15

The cables look like they're behind the leg.
#53864
Posté 09 mai 2012 - 11:17
gunslinger_ruiz wrote...
Add this with MegumiAzusa's
The cables look like they're behind the leg.
Behind that lighter cable, is it a shadow or another cable?
We need to enhance the part where the shadow melds with his leg.
Modifié par balance5050, 09 mai 2012 - 11:22 .
#53865
Posté 09 mai 2012 - 11:18
Uncle Jo wrote...
Anyone who's really interested in the IT will inevitably land here... It's the best source of informations and what's more interesting, there isn't just only one opinion about it (although a certain consensus is already made).It makes me think about how the Geth are governing themselves...SS2Dante wrote...
Aaarg trying to watch that Indoctrination Theory documentary but the guy is overreaching so badly. Claiming the noises you hear in the dreams and after being hit by the laser could be described as "oily shadows" is just too much. Ignoring the fact that the Rachni don't "hear" the way we do, it's just annoying people will see this early on and think IT is full of crap :@
'consensus' is a mathematical phenomenon and applies for big groups with initially very different standpoints, but with time converge to an approx. consensus.
The geth build their opinion in their wireless network that they heavily rely on, I imagine it like neurons in our brains. If every neuron would troll for their own opinion, well then that's the end of the story.
Same goes for the progress of IT. If we would have trolls here all the time or would have to explain the same thing over and over again, we wouldn't progress. And progress should be the goal and is the natural cause for anything that wishes to flourish. - This is also why Synthesis can kiss my shiny metal...
#53866
Posté 09 mai 2012 - 11:19
I suspect that that is indeed what I was seeing. Damn, even in screenshot it's not telling enough :@MegumiAzusa wrote...
SS2Dante wrote...
I know it's been brought up before, but since people have been analysing the breath scene again has anyone managed to get any useful shot at the bloody patch Shepard seems to have? According to the original script (s)he gets rebar through the leg after the blast, and it seems to be the leg that the bloods on, but my poor un-amplified eyes can never catch anything else.
?
(I mean the top right red, not the concrete with blood. The top right bit may indeed be concrete or not, can't tell. Anyway, the copius amount of blood lower down is certainly interesting.
EDIT - hmm in full screen the top right bit has blue around the edges, like the armour.
Modifié par SS2Dante, 09 mai 2012 - 11:23 .
#53867
Posté 09 mai 2012 - 11:20
View Image on Megumi's, you can make out the cable patterns on both, I'd say it's 2 cables. The one in the back looks almost like a shadow that flows into a shadow on Shepard's leg.
#53868
Posté 09 mai 2012 - 11:22
#53869
Posté 09 mai 2012 - 11:25
I didn't express myself correctly. I was talking about the pro ITs and the people who at least consider the IT to be plausible. With them there is indeed progress... The trolls are for me out of the process, even if they sometimes take alot of place (and energy).MaximizedAction wrote...
Uncle Jo wrote...
Anyone who's really interested in the IT will inevitably land here... It's the best source of informations and what's more interesting, there isn't just only one opinion about it (although a certain consensus is already made).It makes me think about how the Geth are governing themselves...SS2Dante wrote...
Aaarg trying to watch that Indoctrination Theory documentary but the guy is overreaching so badly. Claiming the noises you hear in the dreams and after being hit by the laser could be described as "oily shadows" is just too much. Ignoring the fact that the Rachni don't "hear" the way we do, it's just annoying people will see this early on and think IT is full of crap :@
'consensus' is a mathematical phenomenon and applies for big groups with initially very different standpoints, but with time converge to an approx. consensus.
The geth build their opinion in their wireless network that they heavily rely on, I imagine it like neurons in our brains. If every neuron would troll for their own opinion, well then that's the end of the story.
Same goes for the progress of IT. If we would have trolls here all the time or would have to explain the same thing over and over again, we wouldn't progress. And progress should be the goal and is the natural cause for anything that wishes to flourish. - This is also why Synthesis can kiss my shiny metal...
Modifié par Uncle Jo, 09 mai 2012 - 11:26 .
#53870
Posté 09 mai 2012 - 11:25
gunslinger_ruiz wrote...
@balance5050
View Image on Megumi's, you can make out the cable patterns on both, I'd say it's 2 cables. The one in the back looks almost like a shadow that flows into a shadow on Shepard's leg.
So it's a cable and not a shadow. It looks kind of like it goes into his leg, but then again it could just be shadows on his leg.
The effort put into making this scene confusing is kind of impressive imo.
#53871
Posté 09 mai 2012 - 11:26
SS2Dante wrote...
By the way, did anyone have anything to say about the two different crucible designs?
What are you referring to? I hadn't heard about this yet.
#53872
Posté 09 mai 2012 - 11:28
Uncle Jo wrote...
I never was a fan of DLC and I had long time a problem to have access to internet, but I'm still a fan of the ME universe and consider myself as normal human being...spotlessvoid wrote...
Anyone who hasn't played Arrival is irrelevant. Either they aren't hardcore ME fans, or they don't have internet access like normal human beings
The human being part was a joke, but regarding not playing dlc..common. If you LOVE Mass Effect You are going to play major narrative dlc. Plus, if you aren't the type to play dlc then they aren't concerned about getting your money post launch right? Also, if you don't have internet connection then you aren't downloading post launch dlc.
Therefore, you are irrelevant to Biowares decision maKing regarding the endings impact on future dlc sales.
#53873
Posté 09 mai 2012 - 11:31
balance5050 wrote...
SS2Dante wrote...
By the way, did anyone have anything to say about the two different crucible designs?
What are you referring to? I hadn't heard about this yet.
It's something super goddamn obvious that I can't believe I didn't see sooner.
In the left and right pictures, the crucible room is DIFFERENT. Not just the trees, the actual crucible and paths are different. It seems at some point the paths diverged from where you woke up, and control and destroy were on a higher level.
http://i.imgur.com/RIIzj.jpg
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#53874
Posté 09 mai 2012 - 11:34
The darker shadowy thing actually looks like a rebar instead of a cable.balance5050 wrote...
gunslinger_ruiz wrote...
@balance5050
View Image on Megumi's, you can make out the cable patterns on both, I'd say it's 2 cables. The one in the back looks almost like a shadow that flows into a shadow on Shepard's leg.
So it's a cable and not a shadow. It looks kind of like it goes into his leg, but then again it could just be shadows on his leg.
The effort put into making this scene confusing is kind of impressive imo.
#53875
Posté 09 mai 2012 - 11:37
MegumiAzusa wrote...
The darker shadowy thing actually looks like a rebar instead of a cable.balance5050 wrote...
gunslinger_ruiz wrote...
@balance5050
View Image on Megumi's, you can make out the cable patterns on both, I'd say it's 2 cables. The one in the back looks almost like a shadow that flows into a shadow on Shepard's leg.
So it's a cable and not a shadow. It looks kind of like it goes into his leg, but then again it could just be shadows on his leg.
The effort put into making this scene confusing is kind of impressive imo.
FUUUUUUUuuuuuu!!!!
Sorry sorry!
Whatever it is, I want to find out if it's physically going into his leg or what?




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