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Oh, about Anderson's skill tree. It's literally a carbon copy of Ashhole's, except "Alliance Officer" is renamed "Alliance Admiral."

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IsaacShep wrote...

byne wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

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I'm still hoping Anderson would be a squadmate is some DLC :D


Well, he randomly had a skill tree for no reason. I mean, you could say they had to give him one because he was in your squad at the beginning, but Wilson didnt have one in ME2, and you couldnt even put points into any skills until you were off Lazarus Station. Coulda just made Earth like that.

Hmmm, good point. I don't support IT, but I do think it's possible they planned Anderson to be a squadmate for longer than just in the tutorial. Most likely DLC with a bonus Earth mission?

Although, I don't remember, was there any tutorial for squad powers usage/skill trees in the Earth mission? Any reason why they would specifically want Anderson to have skill tree even if just for that one level?


Not that I remember. Earth was just shooting husks and cannibals nonstop.

Did Kenson in Arrival had skill tree?


I dont think so.

I never actually check my skills in Arrival though, since they're usually all fully allocated after I'm done with Freedom's Progress.

Call me a cheater for not updating the game and abusing the glitch that lets me fully fill up every skill with only 10 points all you want, but it wont stop me from doing it. ;)

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Rifneno wrote...

Oh, about Anderson's skill tree. It's literally a carbon copy of Ashhole's, except "Alliance Officer" is renamed "Alliance Admiral."


Yeah, but I mean, why give him one at all? Seems like extra work they didnt need to do. No one would have questioned why he didnt have a skill tree, and its not like they gave it to him to help you through the incredibly difficult level that is the Earth level.

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byne wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Oh, about Anderson's skill tree. It's literally a carbon copy of Ashhole's, except "Alliance Officer" is renamed "Alliance Admiral."


Yeah, but I mean, why give him one at all? Seems like extra work they didnt need to do. No one would have questioned why he didnt have a skill tree, and its not like they gave it to him to help you through the incredibly difficult level that is the Earth level.


Also, for anyone starting a new game it is completely useless anyways. I know, most people import their shepards but this is what I noticed when playing the default ME3 shep.

And even if you do import, certain powers are useless, like grenades; he can't find them so can't usel them.

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BTW, I'm having trouble romancing Liara, in the Presidium commons whenever I talk to her she would only consider me a good friend... -___- What did I do wrong? I talked to her between missions all the time, and picked polite options.

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pirate1802 wrote...

BTW, I'm having trouble romancing Liara, in the Presidium commons whenever I talk to her she would only consider me a good friend... -___- What did I do wrong? I talked to her between missions all the time, and picked polite options.


Did you romance someone else? Are you MaleShep or FemShep?

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byne wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Oh, about Anderson's skill tree. It's literally a carbon copy of Ashhole's, except "Alliance Officer" is renamed "Alliance Admiral."


Yeah, but I mean, why give him one at all? Seems like extra work they didnt need to do. No one would have questioned why he didnt have a skill tree, and its not like they gave it to him to help you through the incredibly difficult level that is the Earth level.


Actually, it's not the same as Ashley Williams. He has Concussive shot, frag grenade, fortification, incendiary ammo, and Alliance Admiral. You'll see she only has concussive shot in common.

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pirate1802 wrote...

BTW, I'm having trouble romancing Liara, in the Presidium commons whenever I talk to her she would only consider me a good friend... -___- What did I do wrong? I talked to her between missions all the time, and picked polite options.

Liara does friendzone a LI Shepard left and right in ME3, even at the "I want to spend the rest of my life with you" at the Citadel, Liara starts the convo as something like "it's good to spend time like this, as friends." or something along these lines.

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Hawk227 wrote...

byne wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Oh, about Anderson's skill tree. It's literally a carbon copy of Ashhole's, except "Alliance Officer" is renamed "Alliance Admiral."


Yeah, but I mean, why give him one at all? Seems like extra work they didnt need to do. No one would have questioned why he didnt have a skill tree, and its not like they gave it to him to help you through the incredibly difficult level that is the Earth level.


Actually, it's not the same as Ashley Williams. He has Concussive shot, frag grenade, fortification, incendiary ammo, and Alliance Admiral. You'll see she only has concussive shot in common.


I think he is just specifically referring to the Alliance Admiral skill. Which IS just Ash's Alliance Officer renamed.

Kinda weird though since Anderson uses a pistol, and never once has a sniper or assault rifle, the two weapons his skill improves the damage of.

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Nauks wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

BTW, I'm having trouble romancing Liara, in the Presidium commons whenever I talk to her she would only consider me a good friend... -___- What did I do wrong? I talked to her between missions all the time, and picked polite options.

Liara does friendzone a LI Shepard left and right in ME3, even at the "I want to spend the rest of my life with you" at the Citadel, Liara starts the convo as something like "it's good to spend time like this, as friends." or something along these lines.


Yeah, but if he is talking about the conversation you have with Liara in the commons AFTER the coup, when she says you're a friend, you should have the option to say just friends doesnt cut it for you anymore.

Even that is weird though, since 'just friends' should have stopped cutting it 3 freakin years ago when you slept together, but what do I know

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byne wrote...

Nauks wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

BTW, I'm having trouble romancing Liara, in the Presidium commons whenever I talk to her she would only consider me a good friend... -___- What did I do wrong? I talked to her between missions all the time, and picked polite options.

Liara does friendzone a LI Shepard left and right in ME3, even at the "I want to spend the rest of my life with you" at the Citadel, Liara starts the convo as something like "it's good to spend time like this, as friends." or something along these lines.


Yeah, but if he is talking about the conversation you have with Liara in the commons AFTER the coup, when she says you're a friend, you should have the option to say just friends doesnt cut it for you anymore.

Even that is weird though, since 'just friends' should have stopped cutting it 3 freakin years ago when you slept together, but what do I know

Aha, thought he was only referring to the dialogue weirdness (not the being able to continue the relationship at all)

But yes indeed this is weird, some of the plot flags from ME2 don't carry over correctly, unless you activate them in the save editor (such as re-establishing your relationship in LoTsB) but most of the friend remarks stay the same, regardless of outcome.

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byne wrote...

Nauks wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

BTW, I'm having trouble romancing Liara, in the Presidium commons whenever I talk to her she would only consider me a good friend... -___- What did I do wrong? I talked to her between missions all the time, and picked polite options.

Liara does friendzone a LI Shepard left and right in ME3, even at the "I want to spend the rest of my life with you" at the Citadel, Liara starts the convo as something like "it's good to spend time like this, as friends." or something along these lines.


Yeah, but if he is talking about the conversation you have with Liara in the commons AFTER the coup, when she says you're a friend, you should have the option to say just friends doesnt cut it for you anymore.

Even that is weird though, since 'just friends' should have stopped cutting it 3 freakin years ago when you slept together, but what do I know

Some people react...differently to stressful situations.

Seems shepard only ever gets laid just before a suicide mission - why else do you think he does them so often? :P

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byne wrote...

Nauks wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

BTW, I'm having trouble romancing Liara, in the Presidium commons whenever I talk to her she would only consider me a good friend... -___- What did I do wrong? I talked to her between missions all the time, and picked polite options.

Liara does friendzone a LI Shepard left and right in ME3, even at the "I want to spend the rest of my life with you" at the Citadel, Liara starts the convo as something like "it's good to spend time like this, as friends." or something along these lines.


Yeah, but if he is talking about the conversation you have with Liara in the commons AFTER the coup, when she says you're a friend, you should have the option to say just friends doesnt cut it for you anymore.

Even that is weird though, since 'just friends' should have stopped cutting it 3 freakin years ago when you slept together, but what do I know


She gets a little distracted, confusing things from time to time.


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Chalk it up to "Liara has troubles reading human intentions" or w/e >:)

Modifié par Nauks, 10 mai 2012 - 04:52 .


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Rifneno wrote...

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Where'd you get that armour set?

Savegame editor.


That armor set needs a buff. It has no stats. Fail. 


Are you kidding?  It grants infinite ammo! :lol:


touche....

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Some people react...differently to stressful situations.

Seems shepard only ever gets laid just before a suicide mission - why else do you think he does them so often? :P


I dont know about that, after I visited Liara in her room for the first time right after the Citadel on my most recent playthrough, I got this message in my Datapad app:

"Hope you like what I've done with the room. Come back if there's anything else you'd like to do with it..."


If Shepard didnt follow through on that invitation, she's insane.

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byne wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...


Some people react...differently to stressful situations.

Seems shepard only ever gets laid just before a suicide mission - why else do you think he does them so often? :P


I dont know about that, after I visited Liara in her room for the first time right after the Citadel on my most recent playthrough, I got this message in my Datapad app:

"Hope you like what I've done with the room. Come back if there's anything else you'd like to do with it..."


If Shepard didnt follow through on that invitation, she's insane.

What is the deal with the datapad app anyway? As I'm a part of the much larger Android community I don't get to play with that, which is pretty damn irritating...

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TSA_383 wrote...

byne wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...


Some people react...differently to stressful situations.

Seems shepard only ever gets laid just before a suicide mission - why else do you think he does them so often? :P


I dont know about that, after I visited Liara in her room for the first time right after the Citadel on my most recent playthrough, I got this message in my Datapad app:

"Hope you like what I've done with the room. Come back if there's anything else you'd like to do with it..."


If Shepard didnt follow through on that invitation, she's insane.

What is the deal with the datapad app anyway? As I'm a part of the much larger Android community I don't get to play with that, which is pretty damn irritating...


Basically, it just has the entire codex on your phone/ipad, lets you do some tiny things like improve readiness in a specific sector by like 1% every six hours, and lets you receive mail from your crew after certain things happen in the game.

Here is a list with all the mail if you're curious.

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byne wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

BTW, I'm having trouble romancing Liara, in the Presidium commons whenever I talk to her she would only consider me a good friend... -___- What did I do wrong? I talked to her between missions all the time, and picked polite options.


Did you romance someone else? Are you MaleShep or FemShep?


No one. Its a new ME3 FemShep.

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pirate1802 wrote...

byne wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

BTW, I'm having trouble romancing Liara, in the Presidium commons whenever I talk to her she would only consider me a good friend... -___- What did I do wrong? I talked to her between missions all the time, and picked polite options.


Did you romance someone else? Are you MaleShep or FemShep?


No one. Its a new ME3 FemShep.


Pre or post-Cerberus coup?

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byne wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

byne wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

BTW, I'm having trouble romancing Liara, in the Presidium commons whenever I talk to her she would only consider me a good friend... -___- What did I do wrong? I talked to her between missions all the time, and picked polite options.


Did you romance someone else? Are you MaleShep or FemShep?


No one. Its a new ME3 FemShep.


Pre or post-Cerberus coup?


Post.

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byne wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

byne wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...


Some people react...differently to stressful situations.

Seems shepard only ever gets laid just before a suicide mission - why else do you think he does them so often? :P


I dont know about that, after I visited Liara in her room for the first time right after the Citadel on my most recent playthrough, I got this message in my Datapad app:

"Hope you like what I've done with the room. Come back if there's anything else you'd like to do with it..."


If Shepard didnt follow through on that invitation, she's insane.

What is the deal with the datapad app anyway? As I'm a part of the much larger Android community I don't get to play with that, which is pretty damn irritating...


Basically, it just has the entire codex on your phone/ipad, lets you do some tiny things like improve readiness in a specific sector by like 1% every six hours, and lets you receive mail from your crew after certain things happen in the game.

Here is a list with all the mail if you're curious.


Cheers!


Also, from another thread:

4stringwizard wrote...

I just re-played "Arrival" as part
of my renegade playthrough (ME2 is still a great game, even if ME3 was a
major let-down), and I noticed a couple things that got my attention.
 For those who haven't played it, or don't remember, Shepard encounters a
group of scientists that end up being indoctrinated after finding a
Reaper artifact.  While playing through, I noticed...

1. One
of the project scientists complains of suffering a recurring nightmare,
and it was the same one each time.  Shepard had nightmares of the vent
kid throughout ME3...

2.  Another scientist claimed he could hear
"whispers" in the back of his head.  Shepard's dreams involved hearing
whispers in the background.  


So there you have it.  No, I am
NOT saying this confirms indoctrination theory.  While I believe IT is
very plausible, I'm not 100% convinced it's true.  However, I think this
definitely gives it more credibility.  And my apologies if this has
already been brought up before.  

What do yo think?


Can someone find a video source for this?

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pirate1802 wrote...

byne wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

byne wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

BTW, I'm having trouble romancing Liara, in the Presidium commons whenever I talk to her she would only consider me a good friend... -___- What did I do wrong? I talked to her between missions all the time, and picked polite options.


Did you romance someone else? Are you MaleShep or FemShep?


No one. Its a new ME3 FemShep.


Pre or post-Cerberus coup?


Post.


Huh. Thats weird.

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You guys remember all this...

am I even allowed to be here having played ME3 in it's entirety only once?
Only reloaded the ending autosave twice to test something.


:unsure:

Modifié par lex0r11, 10 mai 2012 - 05:15 .


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lex0r11 wrote...

You guys remember all this...

am I even allowed to be here having played ME3 in it's entirety only once?
Only reloaded the ending autosave twice to test something.


:unsure:


As ThreadMaster™, I hereby give you permission to be here.