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[estebanus]

Hello again. Anything new?

[DirtyPhoenix]

lex0r11 wrote...

when does this smile occur?

[Uncle Jo]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Big wall of (good) text.

*snip*

Wait a minute. The Task Manager IS a Catalyst. Considering he's Harbinger. Harbinger shall remain unchanged by Shepard's choice, and yet he accelerates an action. Shepard's indoctrination.

Ergo, star child is A Catalyst, but not THE Catalyst.

*snip*

Damn time difference. It's really hard to answer without getting out of the current discussion.

Arian, I was talking about the ending taken at face-value, and the brat still says "I'm the Catalyst" (Lie number one, already by the greetings).
In case of the IT (which I now strongly support), I agree that the Starbrat is Harby's a projection/manipulation/toy/trick/annoyance used to fully indoctrinate a weakened Shep.

I wonder if there is any cheat-code who makes us able to blow his head off with the magical gun (somewhat like in ME2 where you can kill TIM). I'd pay for it...

P.S: Still out of topic but I wanted to ask you if considered the Yahg threat in the the post Reaper-War times (ME4). I've played the LoSB recently and I find this race fascinating and also terrifying : they combine the power of the Krogan, the intelligence and learning ability of the Salarians and the ferocity of the indoctrinated Rachni... For me they're at mid-term the next galaxy rulers...
To prevent this happening I would go on Reaper-mode and wipe them out before they kill every organic in the galaxy

Thanks also for the tips about how to post pics on the forum !

[*]

Modifié par Uncle Jo, 10 mai 2012 - 01:19 .

[Tirian Thorn]

Uncle Jo wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Big wall of (good) text.

*snip*

Wait a minute. The Task Manager IS a Catalyst. Considering he's Harbinger. Harbinger shall remain unchanged by Shepard's choice, and yet he accelerates an action. Shepard's indoctrination.

Ergo, star child is A Catalyst, but not THE Catalyst.

*snip*

Damn time difference. It's really hard to answer without getting out of the current discussion.

Arian, I was talking about the ending taken at face-value, and the brat still says "I'm the Catalyst" (Lie number one, already by the greetings).
In case of the IT (which I now strongly support), I agree that the Starbrat is Harby's a projection/manipulation/toy/trick/annoyance used to fully indoctrinate a weakened Shep.

I wonder if there is any cheat-code who makes us able to blow his head off with the magical gun (somewhat like in ME2 where you can kill TIM). I'd pay for it...

P.S: Still out of topic but I wanted to ask you if considered the Yahg threat in the the post Reaper-War times (ME4). I've played the LoSB recently and I find this race fascinating and also terrifying : they combine the power of the Krogan, the intelligence and learning ability of the Salarians and the ferocity of the indoctrinated Rachni... For me they're at mid-term the next galaxy rulers...
To prevent this happening I would go on Reaper-mode and wipe them out before they kill every organic in the galaxy

Thanks also for the tips about how to post pics on the forum !


[*]

The Yahg would definately make a formidable threat for a sequel.  It would be weird to play a Mass Effect game without Shepard as the main character.

But I think it would be fun to play a game with an open hero/heroine.  (Like in DA: O)   Story:  You're a new spectre and asked to investigate the Yahg threat.  So you could be Turian, Human, Salarian, Asarii, etc. 

That is only thing I enjoy about Multiplayer - is the variety in the races/classes. 

A Drell adept is a lot of fun in MP. 

[UrgedDuke]

pirate1802 wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

when does this smile occur?

When you create peace between the quarians and geth on Rannoch

[Uncle Jo]

Tirian Thorn wrote...


The Yahg would definately make a formidable threat for a sequel.  It would be weird to play a Mass Effect game without Shepard as the main character.

But I think it would be fun to play a game with an open hero/heroine.  (Like in DA: O)   Story:  You're a new spectre and asked to investigate the Yahg threat.  So you could be Turian, Human, Salarian, Asarii, etc. 

That is only thing I enjoy about Multiplayer - is the variety in the races/classes. 

A Drell adept is a lot of fun in MP.

At first I found it also weird to play a possible ME4 without Shepard, but now I think differently. Only if the Reaper threat is over once and for all though.
A new threat, a new spectre with Shepard as mentor (depending on how well you handled the indoctrination attempt on the Citadel) would be cool. As well as having him/her as squadmate for a few missions and the possibility to visit him, wherever he now lives, when we need some advices...
And not only playing a human spectre : Salarian, Asari, Turian, Drell and Krogan !!! God I missed Grunt as squadmate (scr*w you Vega) in ME3.
But the best of it all would be a Geth spectre

Modifié par Uncle Jo, 10 mai 2012 - 01:47 .

[Sammuthegreat]

Tirian Thorn wrote...That is only thing I enjoy about Multiplayer - is the variety in the races/classes.
A Drell adept is a lot of fun in MP. 

The only thing? I've seen the multiplayer getting quite a bit of stick, and I don't really get it. I think it's awesome and horribly addictive, myself. All the fun gunplay of the single-player, plus the added incentive of playing all the different classes and - even better - all the different races.

I can understand people not liking the Store lottery system, but I find it kinda compelling.

The drell Adept is great fun, I agree. I tried the asari Justicar last night though, and I was sorely unimpressed.

EDIT: Something very weird just happened with bullet points. Edited to get rid of them.

Modifié par Sammuthegreat, 10 mai 2012 - 01:50 .

[Tirian Thorn]

Uncle Jo wrote...

Tirian Thorn wrote...


The Yahg would definately make a formidable threat for a sequel.  It would be weird to play a Mass Effect game without Shepard as the main character.

But I think it would be fun to play a game with an open hero/heroine.  (Like in DA: O)   Story:  You're a new spectre and asked to investigate the Yahg threat.  So you could be Turian, Human, Salarian, Asarii, etc. 

That is only thing I enjoy about Multiplayer - is the variety in the races/classes. 

A Drell adept is a lot of fun in MP.

At first I found it also weird to play a possible ME4 without Shepard, but now I think differently. Only if the Reaper threat is over once and for all though.
A new threat, a new spectre with Shepard as mentor (depending on how well you handled the indoctrination attempt on the Citadel) would be cool. As well as having him/her as squadmate for a few missions and the possibility to visit him, wherever he now lives, when we need some advices...
And not only playing a human spectre : Salarian, Asari, Turian, Drell and Krogan !!! God I missed Grunt as squadmate (scr*w you Vega) in ME3.
But the best of it all would be a Geth spectre

I could totally see Grunt becoming the first Krogan spectre. 

And a Geth playable character would be neat. 

It would be cool if Shepard or Ashley/Kaiden, or Grunt was the Spectre assigned to observe you. 

[Tirian Thorn]

Sammuthegreat wrote...

Tirian Thorn wrote...That is only thing I enjoy about Multiplayer - is the variety in the races/classes.
A Drell adept is a lot of fun in MP. 

The only thing? I've seen the multiplayer getting quite a bit of stick, and I don't really get it. I think it's awesome and horribly addictive, myself. All the fun gunplay of the single-player, plus the added incentive of playing all the different classes and - even better - all the different races.

I can understand people not liking the Store lottery system, but I find it kinda compelling.

The drell Adept is great fun, I agree. I tried the asari Justicar last night though, and I was sorely unimpressed.

EDIT: Something very weird just happened with bullet points. Edited to get rid of them.

I meant to say the *ONE thing I enjoy most*
 
I know there are plenty of people that want PvP.  I like PvE frankly and it's satisfying to be on a squad with a mission and not have to deal with the griefing, etc that typically comes with PvP. 

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

Sammuthegreat wrote...

Tirian Thorn wrote...That is only thing I enjoy about Multiplayer - is the variety in the races/classes.
A Drell adept is a lot of fun in MP. 

The only thing? I've seen the multiplayer getting quite a bit of stick, and I don't really get it. I think it's awesome and horribly addictive, myself. All the fun gunplay of the single-player, plus the added incentive of playing all the different classes and - even better - all the different races.

I can understand people not liking the Store lottery system, but I find it kinda compelling.

The drell Adept is great fun, I agree. I tried the asari Justicar last night though, and I was sorely unimpressed.

EDIT: Something very weird just happened with bullet points. Edited to get rid of them.

Drell Adept. Those Cluster Grenades *Me gusta*

Though it is also a ton of fun going Geth Hunter style, by picking Geth infiltrator, max cloak for damage and CD and Hunter Mode, then pick the Geth Shotgun (or any shotgun) and just play like the Geth Hunter from the game using cloak to get close to enemies.

It is a high risk playstyle, but damn does that shotgun hurt coming out of cloak.

Another favorite of mine is Krogan Sentinel, melee style. That Tech Armor + Blood Rage = You are near invincible and smash right through any normal enemy on Silver.

Modifié par Raistlin Majare 1992, 10 mai 2012 - 01:59 .

[SS2Dante]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

Another tidbit from my newest playthrough. After exiting the Geth Consensus, Joker asks if Shepard can be absolutely sure everything around him is real, that Shepard is not still in the Consensus...sound familiar to a main part of this theory?

This is why I say that the mention of the Matrix in the endings plans is important. The conversation about the Geth consensus is basically word for word the argument about the end of the Matrix. And they wanted their ending to be similar to the Matrix...hmm...

[Uncle Jo]

Tirian Thorn wrote...


I could totally see Grunt becoming the first Krogan spectre. 

And a Geth playable character would be neat. 

It would be cool if Shepard or Ashley/Kaiden, or Grunt was the Spectre assigned to observe you. 

I agree. Grunt is the most suitable to become the first Krogan Spectre. I would like to hear his advices, something like  "Don't forget, you must freak out by choice not under constraint ! " or "You don't need luck, you have ammo" and have a hard training on Tuchanka...

For Ashley/Kaidan it would be like "Beware of Cerberus ! TIM is still on the run ! ".

I still find the human characters of ME (especially the squadmates and besides Anderson, Hackett or even Udina or Emily Wong) being quite plain in comparison to the alien ones... I never got attached to Ash or Kaiden and Vega came way too late... Let's not speak about Allers...

Edit: Only human exception about the squadmates personality : Jack.

Modifié par Uncle Jo, 10 mai 2012 - 02:35 .

[DirtyPhoenix]

Tirian Thorn wrote...

Uncle Jo wrote...

Tirian Thorn wrote...


The Yahg would definately make a formidable threat for a sequel.  It would be weird to play a Mass Effect game without Shepard as the main character.

But I think it would be fun to play a game with an open hero/heroine.  (Like in DA: O)   Story:  You're a new spectre and asked to investigate the Yahg threat.  So you could be Turian, Human, Salarian, Asarii, etc. 

That is only thing I enjoy about Multiplayer - is the variety in the races/classes. 

A Drell adept is a lot of fun in MP.

At first I found it also weird to play a possible ME4 without Shepard, but now I think differently. Only if the Reaper threat is over once and for all though.
A new threat, a new spectre with Shepard as mentor (depending on how well you handled the indoctrination attempt on the Citadel) would be cool. As well as having him/her as squadmate for a few missions and the possibility to visit him, wherever he now lives, when we need some advices...
And not only playing a human spectre : Salarian, Asari, Turian, Drell and Krogan !!! God I missed Grunt as squadmate (scr*w you Vega) in ME3.
But the best of it all would be a Geth spectre

I could totally see Grunt becoming the first Krogan spectre. 

And a Geth playable character would be neat. 

It would be cool if Shepard or Ashley/Kaiden, or Grunt was the Spectre assigned to observe you. 

Awesome ideas. Even more awesome if your custom Shepard plays a cameo Hackett-like role. Grunt as spectre may depend on whether you Wrex is alive or not. He'd be the perfect krogan candidate for a spectre though. Hope Garrus is still around. Geth maybe more acceptable after their assist in defeating the reapers. Great ideas all around.
And for once I'd like to play a ME where the villain is a defeatable enemy, not abandom-all-hope type reapers. Batarians and Yahg seem ideal for this.

[paxxton]

JosieFrances wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

JosieFrances wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

IT or not, I've got a feeling Bioware has a big surprise up their sleeve. Maybe I'm too optimistic :s

Im feeling this too, I really hope so anyway  

Without hope we might just be machines xDD

Haha, yeah exactly xD

Technically, organics are biological machines.

[Sammuthegreat]

Tirian Thorn wrote...
I meant to say the *ONE thing I enjoy most*
 
I know there are plenty of people that want PvP.  I like PvE frankly and it's satisfying to be on a squad with a mission and not have to deal with the griefing, etc that typically comes with PvP.  

Ah, that makes more sense. Yeah I'm totally with you regarding no PvP. I think it'd be a horrible way to ruin what (so far) has organically become an impressive co-op experience - and I mean "impressive" in the sense that you don't get selfish pricks playing. Pretty much everyone I've played with so far has been a team player. Although yesterday I did come across a girl who was absolutely, mind-bogglingly terrible at the game, and just laughed down the microphone when she was downed every 10 seconds (on bronze). When people couldn't get to her to help her up she started ranting in Dutch. Oh well, Xbox Live "Avoid this player" came in handy for something, finally.

Also, PvP would massively discourage any variation in class builds. People would only use the mathematically-best classes so as to not be at a disadvantage. I utterly LOATHE it when games force you to play a certain way, purely by virtue of the "other" ways not being competitive. The multiplayer at the moment has it just right, in my opinion. I've played as all 6 classes and as every race I've unlocked (most of them) and I've never once felt like I couldn't compete, even though I'm not especially great as an Infiltrator, for example.

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

Drell Adept. Those Cluster Grenades *Me gusta*

Though it is also a ton of fun going Geth Hunter style, by picking Geth infiltrator, max cloak for damage and CD and Hunter Mode, then pick the Geth Shotgun (or any shotgun) and just play like the Geth Hunter from the game using cloak to get close to enemies.

It is a high risk playstyle, but damn does that shotgun hurt coming out of cloak.

Another favorite of mine is Krogan Sentinel, melee style. That Tech Armor + Blood Rage = You are near invincible and smash right through any normal enemy on Silver.

Agreed. Krogans generally are great fun. My krogan Soldier is a melée fighter, though, and my krogan Sentinel is more of a power user. They're both awesome to use, though, which kinda backs up my previous point about no one class being "best".

Choice is a very good thing.

[Vahilor]

Hmmm somhow a ME without Shep is not a ME I wanna play cause for me allways Shep and his crew will be ME and the galaxy is a nice thing they can act in.

It would not be the same for me anymore.

[MaximizedAction]

paxxton wrote...

JosieFrances wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

JosieFrances wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

IT or not, I've got a feeling Bioware has a big surprise up their sleeve. Maybe I'm too optimistic :s

Im feeling this too, I really hope so anyway  

Without hope we might just be machines xDD

Haha, yeah exactly xD

Technically, organics are biological machines.

BTW, Shepard saying such a thing makes him no better than the Starchild claiming that there can never be peace between Organics and Synthetics.

The Geth disprove both claims. I mean, my Shepard helped the Geth and then suddenly utters something like this?

Shepard....listen to yourself...

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 10 mai 2012 - 02:24 .

[DirtyPhoenix]

paxxton wrote...

JosieFrances wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

JosieFrances wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

IT or not, I've got a feeling Bioware has a big surprise up their sleeve. Maybe I'm too optimistic :s

Im feeling this too, I really hope so anyway  

Without hope we might just be machines xDD

Haha, yeah exactly xD

Technically, organics are biological machines.

Technically they are biological machines, but who says I am the father of five biological machines? xD

Modifié par pirate1802, 10 mai 2012 - 02:23 .

[Uncle Jo]

pirate1802 wrote...


Awesome ideas. Even more awesome if your custom Shepard plays a cameo Hackett-like role. Grunt as spectre may depend on whether you Wrex is alive or not. He'd be the perfect krogan candidate for a spectre though. Hope Garrus is still around. Geth maybe more acceptable after their assist in defeating the reapers. Great ideas all around.
And for once I'd like to play a ME where the villain is a defeatable enemy, not abandom-all-hope type reapers. Batarians and Yahg seem ideal for this.

I've always wondered how some people could kill Wrex on Virmire...

Garrus is the next Primarch and he definitely needs, as the Shadow Broker's file stated, to take some distance from Shep because his great leading abilities will always be shadowed by Shep's charisma... Old good friends becoming rivals ?
The Batarian could have been a great threat but they took the first hit of the Reapers and the destruction of the Mass Relay in Arrival wiped them out almost completely... As Hackett said it, they're now history...

Modifié par Uncle Jo, 10 mai 2012 - 02:26 .

[paxxton]

pirate1802 wrote...

Tirian Thorn wrote...

Uncle Jo wrote...

Tirian Thorn wrote...


The Yahg would definately make a formidable threat for a sequel.  It would be weird to play a Mass Effect game without Shepard as the main character.

But I think it would be fun to play a game with an open hero/heroine.  (Like in DA: O)   Story:  You're a new spectre and asked to investigate the Yahg threat.  So you could be Turian, Human, Salarian, Asarii, etc. 

That is only thing I enjoy about Multiplayer - is the variety in the races/classes. 

A Drell adept is a lot of fun in MP.

At first I found it also weird to play a possible ME4 without Shepard, but now I think differently. Only if the Reaper threat is over once and for all though.
A new threat, a new spectre with Shepard as mentor (depending on how well you handled the indoctrination attempt on the Citadel) would be cool. As well as having him/her as squadmate for a few missions and the possibility to visit him, wherever he now lives, when we need some advices...
And not only playing a human spectre : Salarian, Asari, Turian, Drell and Krogan !!! God I missed Grunt as squadmate (scr*w you Vega) in ME3.
But the best of it all would be a Geth spectre

I could totally see Grunt becoming the first Krogan spectre. 

And a Geth playable character would be neat. 

It would be cool if Shepard or Ashley/Kaiden, or Grunt was the Spectre assigned to observe you. 

Awesome ideas. Even more awesome if your custom Shepard plays a cameo Hackett-like role. Grunt as spectre may depend on whether you Wrex is alive or not. He'd be the perfect krogan candidate for a spectre though. Hope Garrus is still around. Geth maybe more acceptable after their assist in defeating the reapers. Great ideas all around.
And for once I'd like to play a ME where the villain is a defeatable enemy, not abandom-all-hope type reapers. Batarians and Yahg seem ideal for this.

If ME4 is planned without Shepard, I bet it'll revolve around Jon Grissom and the discovery of the Mass Relays. Then we'll discover all the races from the main trilogy.

I'd rather like to see ME4 with Shepard.

[DirtyPhoenix]

MaximizedAction wrote...

paxxton wrote...

JosieFrances wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

JosieFrances wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

IT or not, I've got a feeling Bioware has a big surprise up their sleeve. Maybe I'm too optimistic :s

Im feeling this too, I really hope so anyway  

Without hope we might just be machines xDD

Haha, yeah exactly xD

Technically, organics are biological machines.

BTW, Shepard saying such a thing makes him no better than the Starchild claiming that there can never be peace between Organics and Synthetics.

The Geth disprove both claims. I mean, my Shepard helped the Geth and then suddenly utters something like this?

Shepard....listen to yourself...

Shepard's just pointing out the limitations of synthetics. Even Legion accepted this and says they admire organic's ability to have hope.

[paxxton]

pirate1802 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

JosieFrances wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

JosieFrances wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

IT or not, I've got a feeling Bioware has a big surprise up their sleeve. Maybe I'm too optimistic :s

Im feeling this too, I really hope so anyway  

Without hope we might just be machines xDD

Haha, yeah exactly xD

Technically, organics are biological machines.

Technically they are biological machines, but who says I am the father of five biological machines? xD

No offense. Semantics.

Modifié par paxxton, 10 mai 2012 - 02:29 .

[Rotacioskapa]

paxxton wrote...

If ME4 is planned without Shepard, I bet it'll revolve around Jon Grissom and the discovery of the Mass Relays. Then we'll discover all the races from the main trilogy.

I'd rather like to see ME4 with Shepard.

Who cares about a prequel after this terrible ending? I definitely don't.

[DirtyPhoenix]

paxxton wrote...

If ME4 is planned without Shepard, I bet it'll revolve around Jon Grissom and the discovery of the Mass Relays. Then we'll discover all the races from the main trilogy.

I'd rather like to see ME4 with Shepard.

I'd too.. but if Shep's not there as the main character, I can make do with her appearing in an Anderson/Hackett-like role.

[UrgedDuke]

after the big disappointment that spark unlimited wasn't making BF3, I hope IT doesn't follow the same path:crying: