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[MaximizedAction]

TSA_383 wrote...


Is there anything in this? I'm thinking no, but if anyone notices anything it could be worth a shout. Arrival could very well be the origin of Shep's indoctrination, so it's certainly worth looking at.

I mean...
Saren - Came in contact with reaper artefact, slowly became reaper agent
TIM - Came in contact with reaper artefact, slowly became reaper agent
Kenson + Scientists + Various characters from "Bring Down the Sky" - Came in contact with reaper artefact, Less valuable, rapid-indoctrinated, quickly became reaper agents but presumably mentally limited.
Shepard - Came in contact with reaper artefact, starts showing almost all the quoted symptoms of indoctrination?...

I initially took this slide show after the timer went to zero for BW's depiction of a Reaper arrival. But the lack of any other NPC characters besides your closest friends and not-so-much friends(TIM) might not only be due to BW not having animations for them or Reaper invasion scenarios.
After all, BW chose the Cit. and Illium for the slideshow. But Illium is empty this time, only the ones Shepard cares most about(except Liara) seem to be in direct danger.

And it's only Harbinger we see coming down in front of them.

What if this timer isn't legit? What if the information from the Artifact was a trap from the Reapers and they never really intended to come through it in that time? And what if what we see at timer=0 is an indoctrination-induced hallucination?
I know, doesn't seem to make sense, but neither do the pics the Arrival DLC shows - except a psedo-dramatic gorefest.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 10 mai 2012 - 03:07 .

[Uncle Jo]

estebanus wrote...


I think that if a ME sequel will come out, it would either have to be Shepard's child or descendant, or totally new character with no connections whatsoever to Shepard, or possibly even Shepard again if s/he survives ME3!

It would also be cool to have game where you could choose all of these options! Don't forget, Shepard is only in his/her 30's, so s/he could probably still be in the alliance after about 20 years!
I mean, Kahlee Sanders is in her late 60's, and she is still part of the alliance!

I think personally that Shep's arc must have an end at some point. His story is tied with the Reapers, so even if he survives, seeing him fighting a new threat as main character would be a little "too much"... The ME Universe is rich and vast enough to continue without him. But a role a la "Yoda" could be really interesting..

Modifié par Uncle Jo, 10 mai 2012 - 03:07 .

[paxxton]

pirate1802 wrote...

UrgedDuke wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

Uncle Jo wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

Uncle Jo wrote...

UrgedDuke wrote...

after the big disappointment that spark unlimited wasn't making BF3, I hope IT doesn't follow the same path:crying:

"Have a little faith"

Hey uncle, how do you set a custom pic as your dp?

Do you have played Dragon Age Origins and registered it on BSN ?

Nope. I'm a new gamer. ME was my first Bioware game xD

I asked myself the same question. So it seems you have to register at least 3 games?

BSN, Y U no allowing registering ME1?

cuz EA no publish ME1

EA, Y U no publish ME1?

They did on PC.

[paxxton]

DJBare wrote...

The Shepard VI has something interesting to say.

Shepard VI: There's nothing we cannot beat if we all work together.
click again
Shepard VI: Accept the reapers, ever seen the size of one of those things.

We accept the Shepard VI is a beta with problems, but to give a demoralizing message?

There's a theory circulating on BSN that states the more war assets you have, the worse. It's because the forces of the galaxy are stranded around Earth and other regions are falling. That's why you only get the Destroy option with low EMS.

Modifié par paxxton, 10 mai 2012 - 03:17 .

[Stigweird85]

pirate1802 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

If ME4 is planned without Shepard, I bet it'll revolve around Jon Grissom and the discovery of the Mass Relays. Then we'll discover all the races from the main trilogy.

I'd rather like to see ME4 with Shepard.

I'd too.. but if Shep's not there as the main character, I can make do with her appearing in an Anderson/Hackett-like role.

Sorry no thanks, while I would buy play and enjoy any future Mass Effect titles. I cannot stand prequels, you cannot build dramatic tension in a piece if you know what can and can't happen. I'm happy with a Shepardless ME4 or as suggested a ME4 where Shepard is in an Anderson/Hackett role.

The only prequel(s) that may be worth it would be the first contact War or the Rachni Wars/Krogan rebellion but again we know what has to happen. I wouldn't mind playing events during these wars but would prefer it to be DLC or an expansion rather than Mass Effect 4

[MaximizedAction]

paxxton wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

UrgedDuke wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

Uncle Jo wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

Uncle Jo wrote...

UrgedDuke wrote...

after the big disappointment that spark unlimited wasn't making BF3, I hope IT doesn't follow the same path:crying:

"Have a little faith"

Hey uncle, how do you set a custom pic as your dp?

Do you have played Dragon Age Origins and registered it on BSN ?

Nope. I'm a new gamer. ME was my first Bioware game xD

I asked myself the same question. So it seems you have to register at least 3 games?

BSN, Y U no allowing registering ME1?

cuz EA no publish ME1

EA, Y U no publish ME1?

They did on PC.

ME1 is still owned by Microsoft as a publisher.

[SS2Dante]

DJBare wrote...

The Shepard VI has something interesting to say.

Shepard VI: There's nothing we cannot beat if we all work together.
click again
Shepard VI: Accept the reapers, ever seen the size of one of those things.

We accept the Shepard VI is a beta with problems, but to give a demoralizing message?

I think Shep says "Except the Reapers", not "Accept the Reapers"

[TSA_383]

MaximizedAction wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...


Is there anything in this? I'm thinking no, but if anyone notices anything it could be worth a shout. Arrival could very well be the origin of Shep's indoctrination, so it's certainly worth looking at.

I mean...
Saren - Came in contact with reaper artefact, slowly became reaper agent
TIM - Came in contact with reaper artefact, slowly became reaper agent
Kenson + Scientists + Various characters from "Bring Down the Sky" - Came in contact with reaper artefact, Less valuable, rapid-indoctrinated, quickly became reaper agents but presumably mentally limited.
Shepard - Came in contact with reaper artefact, starts showing almost all the quoted symptoms of indoctrination?...

I initially took this slide show after the timer went to zero for BW's depiction of a Reaper arrival. But the lack of any other NPC characters besides your closest friends and not-so-much friends(TIM) might not only be due to BW not having animations for them or Reaper invasion scenarios.
After all, BW chose the Cit. and Illium for the slideshow. But Illium is empty this time, only the ones Shepard cares most about(except Liara) seem to be in direct danger.

And it's only Harbinger we see coming down in front of them.

What if this timer isn't legit? What if the information from the Artifact was a trap from the Reapers and they never really intended to come through it in that time? And what if what we see at timer=0 is an indoctrination-induced hallucination?
I know, doesn't seem to make sense, but neither do the pics the Arrival DLC shows - except a psedo-dramatic gorefest.

To be honest, since that was in as an easter egg, I'm tempted to believe easter egg - can't imagine them putting that much time and effort into it.

Although Arrival itself clearly has a fair amount of significance to the plot of ME3.

Also, quick note, has anyone here ever tried walking away from the child in the dreams?
Give it a go, honestly, it's interesting

[SS2Dante]

MaximizedAction wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...


Is there anything in this? I'm thinking no, but if anyone notices anything it could be worth a shout. Arrival could very well be the origin of Shep's indoctrination, so it's certainly worth looking at.

I mean...
Saren - Came in contact with reaper artefact, slowly became reaper agent
TIM - Came in contact with reaper artefact, slowly became reaper agent
Kenson + Scientists + Various characters from "Bring Down the Sky" - Came in contact with reaper artefact, Less valuable, rapid-indoctrinated, quickly became reaper agents but presumably mentally limited.
Shepard - Came in contact with reaper artefact, starts showing almost all the quoted symptoms of indoctrination?...

I initially took this slide show after the timer went to zero for BW's depiction of a Reaper arrival. But the lack of any other NPC characters besides your closest friends and not-so-much friends(TIM) might not only be due to BW not having animations for them or Reaper invasion scenarios.
After all, BW chose the Cit. and Illium for the slideshow. But Illium is empty this time, only the ones Shepard cares most about(except Liara) seem to be in direct danger.

And it's only Harbinger we see coming down in front of them.

What if this timer isn't legit? What if the information from the Artifact was a trap from the Reapers and they never really intended to come through it in that time? And what if what we see at timer=0 is an indoctrination-induced hallucination?
I know, doesn't seem to make sense, but neither do the pics the Arrival DLC shows - except a psedo-dramatic gorefest.

To be honest I think it is just, as you say, a pseudo-dramatic gorefest.

[Arashi08]

byne wrote...

Adambomb1222 wrote...


Fine then... be that way.

Also I remember seeing this trailer... and getting goose bumps. Yup, still works. Has to be the song.
 

Yeah, the ME2 launch trailer is probably my favorite trailer for anything, ever. Of all time.

Have you seen this version?



0:20 intro skip

[MaximizedAction]

TSA_383 wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...


Is there anything in this? I'm thinking no, but if anyone notices anything it could be worth a shout. Arrival could very well be the origin of Shep's indoctrination, so it's certainly worth looking at.

I mean...
Saren - Came in contact with reaper artefact, slowly became reaper agent
TIM - Came in contact with reaper artefact, slowly became reaper agent
Kenson + Scientists + Various characters from "Bring Down the Sky" - Came in contact with reaper artefact, Less valuable, rapid-indoctrinated, quickly became reaper agents but presumably mentally limited.
Shepard - Came in contact with reaper artefact, starts showing almost all the quoted symptoms of indoctrination?...

I initially took this slide show after the timer went to zero for BW's depiction of a Reaper arrival. But the lack of any other NPC characters besides your closest friends and not-so-much friends(TIM) might not only be due to BW not having animations for them or Reaper invasion scenarios.
After all, BW chose the Cit. and Illium for the slideshow. But Illium is empty this time, only the ones Shepard cares most about(except Liara) seem to be in direct danger.

And it's only Harbinger we see coming down in front of them.

What if this timer isn't legit? What if the information from the Artifact was a trap from the Reapers and they never really intended to come through it in that time? And what if what we see at timer=0 is an indoctrination-induced hallucination?
I know, doesn't seem to make sense, but neither do the pics the Arrival DLC shows - except a psedo-dramatic gorefest.

To be honest, since that was in as an easter egg, I'm tempted to believe easter egg - can't imagine them putting that much time and effort into it.

Although Arrival itself clearly has a fair amount of significance to the plot of ME3.

Also, quick note, has anyone here ever tried walking away from the child in the dreams?
Give it a go, honestly, it's interesting

I think I did, because the game forced my Shepard and the camera do a 180°, as if I restarted the dream.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 10 mai 2012 - 03:14 .

[SS2Dante]

By the way, people, the seemingly random changes in phrasing that the godchild uses interests me. Like him saying "and most of the technology you rely on" when describing Destroy during SOME synthesis-enabled endings (I know he didn't say it on mine). Can anyone check the phrasing of the child for increments of like, 500 EMS or something? I'd be interested to know if it's just EMS that effects that scene or not (given gun_slingers friends crazy endings :S)

[paxxton]

[quote]MaximizedAction wrote...

[quote]paxxton wrote...

[quote]pirate1802 wrote...

[quote]UrgedDuke wrote...

[quote]pirate1802 wrote...

[quote]paxxton wrote...

[quote]pirate1802 wrote...

[quote]Uncle Jo wrote...

[quote]pirate1802 wrote...

[quote]Uncle Jo wrote...

[quote]UrgedDuke wrote...

after the big disappointment that spark unlimited wasn't making BF3, I hope IT doesn't follow the same path:crying:


[/quote]"Have a little faith"
[/quote]

Hey uncle, how do you set a custom pic as your dp?

[/quote]Do you have played Dragon Age Origins and registered it on BSN ?
[/quote]

Nope. I'm a new gamer. ME was my first Bioware game xD

[/quote]

I asked myself the same question. So it seems you have to register at least 3 games?
[/quote]

BSN, Y U no allowing registering ME1?

[/quote]

cuz EA no publish ME1

[/quote]

EA, Y U no publish ME1?

[/quote]

They did on PC.
[/quote]

ME1 is still owned by Microsoft as a publisher.

[/quote]

I can't understand how Microsoft let Bioware slip into EA hands. Couldn't they recognize the potential in Mass Effect?

[TSA_383]

SS2Dante wrote...

By the way, people, the seemingly random changes in phrasing that the godchild uses interests me. Like him saying "and most of the technology you rely on" when describing Destroy during SOME synthesis-enabled endings (I know he didn't say it on mine). Can anyone check the phrasing of the child for increments of like, 500 EMS or something? I'd be interested to know if it's just EMS that effects that scene or not (given gun_slingers friends crazy endings :S)

He just says "You can wipe out synthetics if you want"
Doesn't mention anything else.


A quick thought, and probably not true, but an interesting one nonetheless:

What if the intention in Arrival was to disrupt galactic unity to make it easier for the reapers to invade?
It seemed awfully convenient at the time that shepard wakes up just in time to blow up the mass relay, and it seems like the kind of thing the reapers would do to use one of their agents to start a war to prevent species cooperating during their invasion.

I mean, on whos authority did we have it that the reapers were going to be coming at the time given in Arrival? Kenson? Object Rho?
If it was so easy to work out, why were we taken totally by surprise in ME3?

And as a result, Shepard is taken out of commission until the reaper invasion and the various species are unprepared for a reaper strike.

Modifié par TSA_383, 10 mai 2012 - 03:25 .

[estebanus]

Uncle Jo wrote...

estebanus wrote...


I think that if a ME sequel will come out, it would either have to be Shepard's child or descendant, or totally new character with no connections whatsoever to Shepard, or possibly even Shepard again if s/he survives ME3!

It would also be cool to have game where you could choose all of these options! Don't forget, Shepard is only in his/her 30's, so s/he could probably still be in the alliance after about 20 years!
I mean, Kahlee Sanders is in her late 60's, and she is still part of the alliance!

I think personally that Shep's arc must have an end at some point. His story is tied with the Reapers, so even if he survives, seeing him fighting a new threat as main character would be a little "too much"... The ME Universe is rich and vast enough to continue without him. But a role a la "Yoda" could be really interesting..

Yeah, I know you're right, it's just that it could interesting to play as Shepard again. I'm totally all right with creating a new protagonist, but I still think that Shepard should at least make a cameo appearance in a future game. The best thing Bioware could do is to give him/her the same role that Hackett or Anderson had for Shepard. That would be awesome!

[SS2Dante]

TSA_383 wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

By the way, people, the seemingly random changes in phrasing that the godchild uses interests me. Like him saying "and most of the technology you rely on" when describing Destroy during SOME synthesis-enabled endings (I know he didn't say it on mine). Can anyone check the phrasing of the child for increments of like, 500 EMS or something? I'd be interested to know if it's just EMS that effects that scene or not (given gun_slingers friends crazy endings :S)

He just says "You can wipe out synthetics if you want"
Doesn't mention anything else.


A quick thought, and probably not true, but an interesting one nonetheless:

What if the intention in Arrival was to disrupt galactic unity to make it easier for the reapers to invade?
It seemed awfully convenient at the time that shepard wakes up just in time to blow up the mass relay, and it seems like the kind of thing the reapers would do to use one of their agents to start a war to prevent species cooperating during their invasion.

I mean, on whos authority did we have it that the reapers were going to be coming at the time given in Arrival? Kenson? Object Rho?

And as a result, Shepard is taken out of commission until the reaper invasion and the various species are unprepared for a reaper strike.

Nah, here

http://www.youtube.c...zhHtqgY#t=1005s

Although it looks like I was wrong, it's not just in synthesis (though I'm 95% sure I've seen a video with synthesis where he says the same line).

[llbountyhunter]

paxxton wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

ME1 is still owned by Microsoft as a publisher.

I can't understand how Microsoft let Bioware slip into EA hands. Couldn't they recognize the potential in Mass Effect?

the clearly saw how much more potential halo has.....


/sarcasm

[Arashi08]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Oh god... kill me now, I just stumbled on a youtube video for a assignment I missed.

Informing an asari of her Krogan husband's death.

That Krogan was Charr, that obnoxious Krogan Poet. He was a member of Aralakh Company.

Technically Charr was part of the scouting party that arrived on the planet before Aralakh Company.  not that a krogan poet wouldn't make an excellent edition to the  deadliest krogan commando squad in the galaxy.

[MaximizedAction]

TSA_383 wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

By the way, people, the seemingly random changes in phrasing that the godchild uses interests me. Like him saying "and most of the technology you rely on" when describing Destroy during SOME synthesis-enabled endings (I know he didn't say it on mine). Can anyone check the phrasing of the child for increments of like, 500 EMS or something? I'd be interested to know if it's just EMS that effects that scene or not (given gun_slingers friends crazy endings :S)

He just says "You can wipe out synthetics if you want"
Doesn't mention anything else.


A quick thought, and probably not true, but an interesting one nonetheless:

What if the intention in Arrival was to disrupt galactic unity to make it easier for the reapers to invade?
It seemed awfully convenient at the time that shepard wakes up just in time to blow up the mass relay, and it seems like the kind of thing the reapers would do to use one of their agents to start a war to prevent species cooperating during their invasion.

I mean, on whos authority did we have it that the reapers were going to be coming at the time given in Arrival? Kenson? Object Rho?
If it was so easy to work out, why were we taken totally by surprise in ME3?

And as a result, Shepard is taken out of commission until the reaper invasion and the various species are unprepared for a reaper strike.

Somewhat what I was trying to say. That kind of logic would make sense for the Reapers.

[UrgedDuke]

[quote]paxxton wrote...

[quote]MaximizedAction wrote...

[quote]paxxton wrote...

[quote]pirate1802 wrote...

[quote]UrgedDuke wrote...

[quote]pirate1802 wrote...

[quote]paxxton wrote...

[quote]pirate1802 wrote...

[quote]Uncle Jo wrote...

[quote]pirate1802 wrote...

[quote]Uncle Jo wrote...

[quote]UrgedDuke wrote...

after the big disappointment that spark unlimited wasn't making BF3, I hope IT doesn't follow the same path:crying:


[/quote]"Have a little faith"
[/quote]

Hey uncle, how do you set a custom pic as your dp?

[/quote]Do you have played Dragon Age Origins and registered it on BSN ?
[/quote]

Nope. I'm a new gamer. ME was my first Bioware game xD

[/quote]

I asked myself the same question. So it seems you have to register at least 3 games?
[/quote]

BSN, Y U no allowing registering ME1?

[/quote]

cuz EA no publish ME1

[/quote]

EA, Y U no publish ME1?

[/quote]

They did on PC.
[/quote]

ME1 is still owned by Microsoft as a publisher.

[/quote]

I can't understand how Microsoft let Bioware slip into EA hands. Couldn't they recognize the potential in Mass Effect?
[/quote]

Bioware needed EA to fund the Star Wars TOR MMO, they had to realize that they were making a pact with the devil

[ExtendedCut]

Morning, guys!

Anything new?  It sounds like there's some news from BW, but I couldn't find anything specific.

BTW, I'm 100% on-board for Grunt as the first Krogan Spectre!

[Uncle Jo]

TSA_383 wrote...



A quick thought, and probably not true, but an interesting one nonetheless:

What if the intention in Arrival was to disrupt galactic unity to make it easier for the reapers to invade?
It seemed awfully convenient at the time that shepard wakes up just in time to blow up the mass relay, and it seems like the kind of thing the reapers would do to use one of their agents to start a war to prevent species cooperating during their invasion.

I mean, on whos authority did we have it that the reapers were going to be coming at the time given in Arrival? Kenson? Object Rho?
If it was so easy to work out, why were we taken totally by surprise in ME3?

And as a result, Shepard is taken out of commission until the reaper invasion and the various species are unprepared for a reaper strike.

An intersting thougt but imo unlikely. I don't think the Reapers would delay on purpose their invasion one more time (which was already because of Sovereign's failure) and give the galaxy more time to prepare itself.

It's still suspicious that no race took (I think espacially of the Council) any serious initiative to prepare themselves to an eventual invasion which couldn't be ignored anymore with Arrival... That's why I think among others ones, that the Citadel is a slow indoctrination device and that the Reapers had some high-ranked, indoctrinated, sleeper-agents in every significant government... The crucible is also the last trap, used if the harvest isn't going easy....

[SS2Dante]

SS2Dante wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

By the way, people, the seemingly random changes in phrasing that the godchild uses interests me. Like him saying "and most of the technology you rely on" when describing Destroy during SOME synthesis-enabled endings (I know he didn't say it on mine). Can anyone check the phrasing of the child for increments of like, 500 EMS or something? I'd be interested to know if it's just EMS that effects that scene or not (given gun_slingers friends crazy endings :S)

He just says "You can wipe out synthetics if you want"
Doesn't mention anything else.


A quick thought, and probably not true, but an interesting one nonetheless:

What if the intention in Arrival was to disrupt galactic unity to make it easier for the reapers to invade?
It seemed awfully convenient at the time that shepard wakes up just in time to blow up the mass relay, and it seems like the kind of thing the reapers would do to use one of their agents to start a war to prevent species cooperating during their invasion.

I mean, on whos authority did we have it that the reapers were going to be coming at the time given in Arrival? Kenson? Object Rho?

And as a result, Shepard is taken out of commission until the reaper invasion and the various species are unprepared for a reaper strike.

Nah, here

http://www.youtube.c...zhHtqgY#t=1005s

Although it looks like I was wrong, it's not just in synthesis (though I'm 95% sure I've seen a video with synthesis where he says the same line).

Hmm I'm, watching two very similar playthroughs (without synthesis). We've know for a while that the starchild says "you have choice. More than you deserve" at this level instead of "more than you know". But if you choose the other option about hope, he says "You don't need hope", instead of (at high EMS) "You have hope. More than you know".

I compared a bad and synthesis ending.

Just after the hope/choice bit (without synthesis)

Shep "So now what?"

child "That depends on you."

Shep "What do you mean?"

child "The Crucible changed me. Created new...possibilities. But I can't make them happen. And I won't"

shep "Make what happen?"

child "What you came here to do. You want to destroy us."



With synthesis

Shep "So now what?"

child "We find a new solution" 

Shep "Yeah, but how?"

child "The Crucible changed me. Created new...possibilities. But I can't make them happen. I know you've thought about destroying us"

Modifié par SS2Dante, 10 mai 2012 - 03:43 .

[DJBare]

paxxton wrote...

There's a theory circulating on BSN that states the more war assets you have, the worse. It's because the forces of the galaxy are stranded around Earth and other regions are falling. That's why you only get the Destroy option with low EMS.

Heh, now that's a strategy I never considered, the reapers attract the bulk of the forces away from the different home worlds leaving those home worlds to be easier pickings.

[xHarrison23]

Urged Duke likes men.