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Was the ending a hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory


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#54501
Xavendithas

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dreamgazer wrote...

I really wish I had done a running tally with this recent play-through of exactly how many times the game mentions "indoctrination".

Just finished the Cerberus-Citadel infiltration mission, and I think it's pretty pertinent that one of the bigger events in the entire game pivots on a potentially (likely) indoctrinated person ... and that it was punctuated at the end by Ashley (and, I assume, Kaidan saying something to that equivalent as well) saying "How can we fight an enemy that worms its way into our minds?". I mean big, bright neon sign there.

I mentioned it a few days ago, but it's just too damn prominent in the story proper to be something that you can ignore while interpreting what's going on.


It's not just in the single player that indoctrination is mentioned. The multiplayer portion of the game has you going after objectives involving indoctrination a lot. I don't think it is coincidence.

#54502
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Ok guys. All this talk about Overlord and the Arrival (yeah I know, 20 pages ago) convinced me. I finally decided to get them. Yes, I haven't played them yet *sinks in a puddle of shame* Now I feel a little between the chairs. I was always kind of adamant about not buying DLC (though I did buy LotSB). On the other hand, I feel very dedicated to the series and it wouldn't feel right without having seen the whole story. Well, at least I didn't by the weapon/appearence packs (really, Bioware?).

Maybe I'll read the books and comics, too. I actually thought about that while playing, but then I got to the ending and felt like basically everyone else at that point and wasn't so sure if my dedication is worth it anymore. But then I got to this thread and I have hope again. So here's to the DLC I missed so fare and another playthrough of ME 3 with my (this time complete) Shepard from ME 2.

...

Well, in up to 4 hours, because my internet connection sucks -.-

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#54503
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Boradam wrote...



???: "Refresh your page."

Moderator Shepard: "What? Where am I?"

???: "The Indoctrination Theory Thread."

Moderator Shepard: "Who... Who are you?"

???: "I am the internet."

Moderator Shepard: "I thought the BSN was the internet."

The Internet: "No, the BSN is part of me."

Moderator Shepard: "I need to stop the Trolls, do you... know how I can do that?"

The Internet: "Perhaps, I control the Trolls. They are my solution..."

Moderator Shepard: "The solution to what?"

The Internet: "Spam. Idiots will always spam the intelligent..."

The Internet: "But we found a way to stop that from happening, a way to restore order for the next thread."

Moderator Shepard: "By derailing the entire thread?"

The Internet: "No. We troll the intelligent, leaving the less intelligent ones alone. Just like we left you the last time we were here."

Moderator Shepard: "But you trolled the rest..."

The Internet: "We helped them ascend so they can make way for new users, storing the old user in troll form."

Moderator Shepard: "I think we'd rather keep our own form."

The Internet:"No, you can't... Without us to stop it, idiots would destroy all
intelligence. We've created this cycle so that never happens. That's the
solution."


Moderator Shepard: "So now what?"

The Internet: "We find a new solution."

Moderator Shepard: "Yeah, but how?"

The Internet: "The Topic... changed me. Created new... Possibilities... But I can't make them happen. I know you've thought about banning us.

You can ban all the Trolls if you want. Including the idiots... But even your posts are partly pointless."

Moderator Shepard: "But the Trolls will be banned?"

The Internet: "Yes, but the discussion won't last. Soon, new users will act like idiots and then the chaos will come back."

Moderator Shepard: "Maybe..."

The Internet: "Or do you think you can win an argument against us?"

Moderator Shepard: "Huh. So... the users who tried to debate were right after all."

The Internet: "Yes, but they could never could have gotten us to shut up because we already controll-olololol-ed them."

Moderator Shepard: "But I can..."

The Internet: "You will debate with us, but you will lose any sense of intelligence you have."

Moderator Shepard: "But the Trolls will leave?"

The Internet: "Yes. There is another solution."

Moderator Shepard: "Yeah?"

The Internet: "Synthesis."

Moderator Shepard: "And that is?"

The Internet: "Add your computer data to the internet.
Everything on your hard drive will be absorbed and then sent out onto BSN. The chain reaction will unite all of BSN into being pissed about Viruses. A new... nerd rage."

Moderator Shepard: "I... don't know."

The Internet: "Why not? Computer Viruses are already part of you; can you imagine your PC without them?"

Moderator Shepard: "And there will be... peace?"

The Internet:  "The cycle will end. Synthesis is the ultimate nerd rage on BSN, but we need each other to make it happen.  You have a difficult decision. Releasing the energy of the Topic will end the cycle, but it will also remove the forum rules.   The paths are open -- but you have to choose."



Wow... I don't even have words for how amazing this is Posted ImagePosted Image

#54504
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BleedingUranium wrote...

Boradam wrote...

/snippitysnipsnip


Wow... I don't even have words for how amazing this is Posted ImagePosted Image


This one can has cookie?

Modifié par Boradam, 10 mai 2012 - 08:00 .


#54505
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Boradam wrote...



???: "Refresh your page."

Moderator Shepard: "What? Where am I?"

???: "The Indoctrination Theory Thread."

Moderator Shepard: "Who... Who are you?"

???: "I am the internet."

Moderator Shepard: "I thought the BSN was the internet."

The Internet: "No, the BSN is part of me."

Moderator Shepard: "I need to stop the Trolls, do you... know how I can do that?"

The Internet: "Perhaps, I control the Trolls. They are my solution..."

Moderator Shepard: "The solution to what?"

The Internet: "Spam. Idiots will always spam the intelligent..."

The Internet: "But we found a way to stop that from happening, a way to restore order for the next thread."

Moderator Shepard: "By derailing the entire thread?"

The Internet: "No. We troll the intelligent, leaving the less intelligent ones alone. Just like we left you the last time we were here."

Moderator Shepard: "But you trolled the rest..."

The Internet: "We helped them ascend so they can make way for new users, storing the old user in troll form."

Moderator Shepard: "I think we'd rather keep our own form."

The Internet:"No, you can't... Without us to stop it, idiots would destroy all
intelligence. We've created this cycle so that never happens. That's the
solution."


Moderator Shepard: "So now what?"

The Internet: "We find a new solution."

Moderator Shepard: "Yeah, but how?"

The Internet: "The Topic... changed me. Created new... Possibilities... But I can't make them happen. I know you've thought about banning us.

You can ban all the Trolls if you want. Including the idiots... But even your posts are partly pointless."

Moderator Shepard: "But the Trolls will be banned?"

The Internet: "Yes, but the discussion won't last. Soon, new users will act like idiots and then the chaos will come back."

Moderator Shepard: "Maybe..."

The Internet: "Or do you think you can win an argument against us?"

Moderator Shepard: "Huh. So... the users who tried to debate were right after all."

The Internet: "Yes, but they could never could have gotten us to shut up because we already controll-olololol-ed them."

Moderator Shepard: "But I can..."

The Internet: "You will debate with us, but you will lose any sense of intelligence you have."

Moderator Shepard: "But the Trolls will leave?"

The Internet: "Yes. There is another solution."

Moderator Shepard: "Yeah?"

The Internet: "Synthesis."

Moderator Shepard: "And that is?"

The Internet: "Add your computer data to the internet.
Everything on your hard drive will be absorbed and then sent out onto BSN. The chain reaction will unite all of BSN into being pissed about Viruses. A new... nerd rage."

Moderator Shepard: "I... don't know."

The Internet: "Why not? Computer Viruses are already part of you; can you imagine your PC without them?"

Moderator Shepard: "And there will be... peace?"

The Internet:  "The cycle will end. Synthesis is the ultimate nerd rage on BSN, but we need each other to make it happen.  You have a difficult decision. Releasing the energy of the Topic will end the cycle, but it will also remove the forum rules.   The paths are open -- but you have to choose."




+ 100 internetz!:D:D

#54506
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MegumiAzusa wrote...

Boradam wrote...


*snip amazing post about reaper-trolls*

Seriously best post I've ever read on BSN, truly ingenious.


+1 (though HellishFiend's truck analogy is a close second)

Modifié par NeoDobby, 10 mai 2012 - 08:02 .


#54507
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Rosewind wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Just gimmie the dam cookie >< lol



Here, I can se your blood sugar already dropping.



Posted Image


Aww this is why I love you, you bring me sugar :D



Lexor always finds a way to cheer us up!;)

#54508
BleedingUranium

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Boradam wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Boradam wrote...

/snippitysnipsnip


Wow... I don't even have words for how amazing this is Posted ImagePosted Image


This one can has cookie?


That one can have all the cookies


Hey it's almost 2183!

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 10 mai 2012 - 08:04 .


#54509
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*double*

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#54510
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BleedingUranium wrote...

*double*



PREPARE YOURSELVES FOR THE BEGINNING OF THE END.:devil:

#54511
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estebanus wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Just gimmie the dam cookie >< lol



Here, I can se your blood sugar already dropping.



Posted Image


Aww this is why I love you, you bring me sugar :D



Lexor always finds a way to cheer us up!;)

But seriously, has he either savegames made just before any possible conversation or did he basically hammered the screenshot key?

#54512
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BleedingUranium wrote...

Boradam wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Boradam wrote...

/snippitysnipsnip


Wow... I don't even have words for how amazing this is Posted ImagePosted Image


This one can has cookie?


That one can have all the cookies


Hey it's almost 2183!


:o :o :lol:

Almost time to celebrate. Tequila Se'lai.

#54513
estebanus

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Just gimmie the dam cookie >< lol



Here, I can se your blood sugar already dropping.



Posted Image


Aww this is why I love you, you bring me sugar :D



Lexor always finds a way to cheer us up!;)

But seriously, has he either savegames made just before any possible conversation or did he basically hammered the screenshot key?



I've got about 11.000 screenshots of ME2, but I don't know if he does!:P

Modifié par estebanus, 10 mai 2012 - 08:15 .


#54514
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MegumiAzusa wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Just gimmie the dam cookie >< lol



Here, I can se your blood sugar already dropping.

*cookie snip*


Aww this is why I love you, you bring me sugar :D



Lexor always finds a way to cheer us up!;)

But seriously, has he either savegames made just before any possible conversation or did he basically hammered the screenshot key?



MegumiAzusa wrote...

Big G13 wrote...

Isn't 2154 Shepard's lex0r's birth year?

Noo Shepard lex0r has no beginning, and no end. She He is limitless.


For all things prepared.

Okay, seriously. I made only half of these, the others I just find.

:lol:

#54515
BleedingUranium

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estebanus wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

*double*



PREPARE YOURSELVES FOR THE BEGINNING OF THE END.:devil:


I realised I screwed up by making a new one, but I changed it fast Posted Image

I just totally ruined your awesome comment Posted Image

#54516
estebanus

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Boradam wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Boradam wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Boradam wrote...

/snippitysnipsnip


Wow... I don't even have words for how amazing this is Posted ImagePosted Image


This one can has cookie?


That one can have all the cookies


Hey it's almost 2183!


:o :o :lol:

Almost time to celebrate. Tequila Se'lai.



Put more of the stuff into the thing... more stuff goes in...

#54517
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BleedingUranium wrote...

estebanus wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

*double*



PREPARE YOURSELVES FOR THE BEGINNING OF THE END.:devil:


I realised I screwed up by making a new one, but I changed it fast Posted Image

I just totally ruined your awesome comment Posted Image



*sobs shamefully in the corner*

WHY WAS I TOO LATE??!! DAMN YOU INTERNET!!!!:crying:

#54518
Boradam

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lex0r11 wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Just gimmie the dam cookie >< lol



Here, I can se your blood sugar already dropping.

*cookie snip*


Aww this is why I love you, you bring me sugar :D



Lexor always finds a way to cheer us up!;)

But seriously, has he either savegames made just before any possible conversation or did he basically hammered the screenshot key?



MegumiAzusa wrote...

Big G13 wrote...

Isn't 2154 Shepard's lex0r's birth year?

Noo Shepard lex0r has no beginning, and no end. She He is limitless.


For all things prepared.

Okay, seriously. I made only half of these, the others I just find.

:lol:



If you're American you have my vote.

Lex0r for Dictator! :wizard:

#54519
Boradam

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estebanus wrote...

Boradam wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Boradam wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Boradam wrote...

/snippitysnipsnip


Wow... I don't even have words for how amazing this is Posted ImagePosted Image


This one can has cookie?


That one can have all the cookies


Hey it's almost 2183!


:o :o :lol:

Almost time to celebrate. Tequila Se'lai.



Put more of the stuff into the thing... more stuff goes in...


You're a damn butt pirate.

#54520
estebanus

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Boradam wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Just gimmie the dam cookie >< lol



Here, I can se your blood sugar already dropping.

*cookie snip*


Aww this is why I love you, you bring me sugar :D



Lexor always finds a way to cheer us up!;)

But seriously, has he either savegames made just before any possible conversation or did he basically hammered the screenshot key?



MegumiAzusa wrote...

Big G13 wrote...

Isn't 2154 Shepard's lex0r's birth year?

Noo Shepard lex0r has no beginning, and no end. She He is limitless.


For all things prepared.

Okay, seriously. I made only half of these, the others I just find.

:lol:



If you're American you have my vote.

Lex0r for Dictator! :wizard:



Nope, sorry, Lex0r is german.;)

#54521
estebanus

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Boradam wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Boradam wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Boradam wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Boradam wrote...

/snippitysnipsnip


Wow... I don't even have words for how amazing this is Posted ImagePosted Image


This one can has cookie?


That one can have all the cookies


Hey it's almost 2183!


:o :o :lol:

Almost time to celebrate. Tequila Se'lai.



Put more of the stuff into the thing... more stuff goes in...


You're a damn butt pirate.



I want more ass, Ash. :devil:

#54522
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estebanus wrote...
Nope, sorry, Lex0r is german.;)


Next time... next time... :bandit:

estebanus wrote...

Boradam wrote...

You're a damn butt pirate.



I want more ass, Ash. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/devil.png[/smilie]


WHUDDAFU-

Modifié par Boradam, 10 mai 2012 - 08:17 .


#54523
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estebanus wrote...

Boradam wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Just gimmie the dam cookie >< lol



Here, I can se your blood sugar already dropping.

*cookie snip*


Aww this is why I love you, you bring me sugar :D



Lexor always finds a way to cheer us up!;)

But seriously, has he either savegames made just before any possible conversation or did he basically hammered the screenshot key?



MegumiAzusa wrote...

Big G13 wrote...

Isn't 2154 Shepard's lex0r's birth year?

Noo Shepard lex0r has no beginning, and no end. She He is limitless.


For all things prepared.

Okay, seriously. I made only half of these, the others I just find.

:lol:



If you're American you have my vote.

Lex0r for Dictator! :wizard:



Nope, sorry, Lex0r is german.;)


American living in Germany.


*DUN DUN DUUUUUN*

#54524
NeoDobby

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estebanus wrote...

Boradam wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Just gimmie the dam cookie >< lol



Here, I can se your blood sugar already dropping.

*cookie snip*


Aww this is why I love you, you bring me sugar :D



Lexor always finds a way to cheer us up!;)

But seriously, has he either savegames made just before any possible conversation or did he basically hammered the screenshot key?



MegumiAzusa wrote...

Big G13 wrote...

Isn't 2154 Shepard's lex0r's birth year?

Noo Shepard lex0r has no beginning, and no end. She He is limitless.


For all things prepared.

Okay, seriously. I made only half of these, the others I just find.

:lol:



If you're American you have my vote.

Lex0r for Dictator! :wizard:



Nope, sorry, Lex0r is german.;)


Well, then he has my vote.

#54525
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lex0r11 wrote...

American living in Germany.


*DUN DUN DUUUUUN*


You sexy spy, you.