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estebanus wrote...

NeoDobby wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Boradam wrote...

estebanus wrote...

2183!!!


Tequila Se'lai, EsteBAAAAAANus.



Who's like us?


Damn few. And they're all dead!



I like this human! He understands!


*points at his profile picture* "Ahem" ;)

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The Ending of Mass Effect's Forum: (I meant to post it now, not then. :?)

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???: "Refresh your page."

Moderator Shepard: "What? Where am I?"

???: "The Indoctrination Theory Thread."

Moderator Shepard: "Who... Who are you?"

???: "I am the internet."

Moderator Shepard: "I thought the BSN was the internet."

The Internet: "No, the BSN is part of me."

Moderator Shepard: "I need to stop the Trolls, do you... know how I can do that?"

The Internet: "Perhaps, I control the Trolls. They are my solution..."

Moderator Shepard: "The solution to what?"

The Internet: "Spam. Idiots will always spam the intelligent..."

The Internet: "But we found a way to stop that from happening, a way to restore order for the next thread."

Moderator Shepard: "By derailing the entire thread?"

The Internet: "No. We troll the intelligent, leaving the less intelligent ones alone. Just like we left you the last time we were here."

Moderator Shepard: "But you trolled the rest..."

The Internet: "We helped them ascend so they can make way for new users, storing the old user in troll form."

Moderator Shepard: "I think we'd rather keep our own form."

The Internet:"No, you can't... Without us to stop it, idiots would destroy all
intelligence. We've created this cycle so that never happens. That's the
solution."


Moderator Shepard: "So now what?"

The Internet: "We find a new solution."

Moderator Shepard: "Yeah, but how?"

The Internet: "The Topic... changed me. Created new... Possibilities... But I
can't make them happen. I know you've thought about banning us.

You can ban all the Trolls if you want. Including the idiots... But even your posts are partly pointless."

Moderator Shepard: "But the Trolls will be banned?"

The Internet: "Yes, but the discussion won't last. Soon, new users will act like idiots and then the chaos will come back."

Moderator Shepard: "Maybe..."

The Internet: "Or do you think you can win an argument against us?"

Moderator Shepard: "Huh. So... the users who tried to debate were right after all."

The Internet: "Yes, but they could never could have gotten us to shut up because we already controll-olololol-ed them."

Moderator Shepard: "But I can..."

The Internet: "You will debate with us, but you will lose any sense of intelligence you have."

Moderator Shepard: "But the Trolls will leave?"

The Internet: "Yes. There is another solution."

Moderator Shepard: "Yeah?"

The Internet: "Synthesis."

Moderator Shepard: "And that is?"

The Internet: "Add your computer data to the internet.
Everything
on your hard drive will be absorbed and then sent out onto BSN. The
chain reaction will unite all of BSN into being pissed about Viruses. A
new... nerd rage."

Moderator Shepard: "I... don't know."

The Internet: "Why not? Computer Viruses are already part of you; can you imagine your PC without them?"

Moderator Shepard: "And there will be... peace?"


The Internet:  "The cycle will end. Synthesis is the ultimate nerd
rage on BSN, but we need each other to make it happen.  You have a
difficult decision. Releasing the energy of the Topic will end the
cycle, but it will also remove the forum rules.   The paths are open --
but you have to choose."



IN OTHER NEWS: Happy start of Mass Effect!

I think I'll take the ban ending.

#54578
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lex0r11 wrote...

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YAY CHEERS!!!! *Drinks and pass out in the cargo hold*




*Hmmm, cold floor..*


Got Vega to warm me up *cough*

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byne wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

I just played a bit of WoW and realized I can't play for sh*t anymore after over a year of abstinence. Everything looks different. :(

Yeah, laugh at me.


I havent played WoW since ME3 came out. I need to get back to soloing Molten Core weekly to get my other Thunderfury binding and/or Eye of Sulfuras to drop!

Also, what server/faction/race/class do you play?


Aegwynn/alliance/nightelf/deathknight :D

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Boradam wrote...

Bm Fahrtz wrote...

Boradam wrote...

Tirian Thorn wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

I just played a bit of WoW and realized I can't play for sh*t anymore after over a year of abstinence. Everything looks different. :(

Yeah, laugh at me.


Never played WOW.

I played Star Wars: Galaxies
Guild Wars
City of Heroes/Villains


What server were you on in SWG?


Tarquinas,  represent! :wizard:


That was the first server I was in, but then I left for Flurry when I didn't see anybody on Tarquinas for a week.  :?


I played on Corbantis.  I left before Jump to Light Speed and came back during a free weekend, but didn't stay. 

#54581
Bm Fahrtz

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Rosewind wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

YAY CHEERS!!!! *Drinks and pass out in the cargo hold*




*Hmmm, cold floor..*


Got Vega to warm me up *cough*


Dont let his jersey shore spray on tan rub off on you.
:P

#54582
estebanus

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NeoDobby wrote...

estebanus wrote...

NeoDobby wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Boradam wrote...

estebanus wrote...

2183!!!


Tequila Se'lai, EsteBAAAAAANus.



Who's like us?


Damn few. And they're all dead!



I like this human! He understands!


*points at his profile picture* "Ahem" ;)



Turian! I don't see the bloody difference!

Dextro, Levo... They're all the same to me!

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Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

byne wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

I just played a bit of WoW and realized I can't play for sh*t anymore after over a year of abstinence. Everything looks different. :(

Yeah, laugh at me.


I havent played WoW since ME3 came out. I need to get back to soloing Molten Core weekly to get my other Thunderfury binding and/or Eye of Sulfuras to drop!

Also, what server/faction/race/class do you play?


Aegwynn/alliance/nightelf/deathknight :D


Yay, Alliance! High-five!

My main is a Human Prot Pally, but I have an 85 of every class.

Ever since transmogrification was added my DK hasnt looked very respectable though:

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Bm Fahrtz

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Tirian Thorn wrote...

Boradam wrote...

Bm Fahrtz wrote...

Boradam wrote...

Tirian Thorn wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

I just played a bit of WoW and realized I can't play for sh*t anymore after over a year of abstinence. Everything looks different. :(

Yeah, laugh at me.


Never played WOW.

I played Star Wars: Galaxies
Guild Wars
City of Heroes/Villains


What server were you on in SWG?


Tarquinas,  represent! :wizard:


That was the first server I was in, but then I left for Flurry when I didn't see anybody on Tarquinas for a week.  :?


I played on Corbantis.  I left before Jump to Light Speed and came back during a free weekend, but didn't stay. 


Right on! I had a guy on Corbantis as well, I stopped playing that character just after the CU hit, and switched over to Tarq

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Ah, WoW. Good times. Been ahwile.

*standing in front of the bank, asking people in teamspeak what else is up*

Modifié par lex0r11, 10 mai 2012 - 08:54 .


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byne wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

byne wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

I just played a bit of WoW and realized I can't play for sh*t anymore after over a year of abstinence. Everything looks different. :(

Yeah, laugh at me.


I havent played WoW since ME3 came out. I need to get back to soloing Molten Core weekly to get my other Thunderfury binding and/or Eye of Sulfuras to drop!

Also, what server/faction/race/class do you play?


Aegwynn/alliance/nightelf/deathknight :D


Yay, Alliance! High-five!

My main is a Human Prot Pally, but I have an 85 of every class.

Ever since transmogrification was added my DK hasnt looked very respectable though:

Posted Image


Why? The important parts are safe!

#54587
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We're almost at page 2185!

#54588
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TIME FOR MAH OTHER THING

#54589
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Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

byne wrote...

Yay, Alliance! High-five!

My main is a Human Prot Pally, but I have an 85 of every class.

Ever since transmogrification was added my DK hasnt looked very respectable though:

*snip*


Why? The important parts are safe!


True, and at least I can still take her seriously. It's hard to take my hunter seriously when you see her mount and her pet:

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#54590
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estebanus wrote...

NeoDobby wrote...

estebanus wrote...

NeoDobby wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Boradam wrote...

estebanus wrote...

2183!!!


Tequila Se'lai, EsteBAAAAAANus.



Who's like us?


Damn few. And they're all dead!



I like this human! He understands!


*points at his profile picture* "Ahem" ;)



Turian! I don't see the bloody difference!

Dextro, Levo... They're all the same to me!


Famous last words of a human before "swallowing"?

#54591
Bm Fahrtz

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byne wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

byne wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

I just played a bit of WoW and realized I can't play for sh*t anymore after over a year of abstinence. Everything looks different. :(

Yeah, laugh at me.


I havent played WoW since ME3 came out. I need to get back to soloing Molten Core weekly to get my other Thunderfury binding and/or Eye of Sulfuras to drop!

Also, what server/faction/race/class do you play?


Aegwynn/alliance/nightelf/deathknight :D


Yay, Alliance! High-five!

My main is a Human Prot Pally, but I have an 85 of every class.

Ever since transmogrification was added my DK hasnt looked very respectable though:

Posted Image


Wow is getting crazy. I swear, eventualy the game is just going to be a bunch of women running around in nipple tassels and thongs.

Cant wait to see the hot Pandarin rule 34's  :)

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2185! I can taste it!

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Bm Fahrtz wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

YAY CHEERS!!!! *Drinks and pass out in the cargo hold*




*Hmmm, cold floor..*


Got Vega to warm me up *cough*


Dont let his jersey shore spray on tan rub off on you.
:P


Hmmm not even going to react to that.....

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Bm Fahrtz wrote...


Wow is getting crazy. I swear, eventualy the game is just going to be a bunch of women running around in nipple tassels and thongs.

Cant wait to see the hot Pandarin rule 34's  :)


The thing is, WoW isnt getting crazy, it was always crazy. That chest and leg 'armor' is actually armor from Vanilla WoW.

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Do NOT mention Pandaria. Argh.

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I was almost excited :P saw several new pages had been out on this thread - but no!

You guys used to be about the theorising! :P

[quote]ExtendedCut wrote...

[quote]MegumiAzusa wrote...

[quote]SS2Dante wrote...

[quote]MaximizedAction wrote...

[quote]TSA_383 wrote...

[quote]MaximizedAction wrote...

[quote]ExtendedCut wrote...

[quote]MaximizedAction wrote...

[quote]ExtendedCut wrote...

Morning, guys!

Anything new?  It sounds like there's some news from BW, but I couldn't find anything specific.

BTW, I'm 100% on-board for Grunt as the first Krogan Spectre!

[/quote]

Here's some possible news: maybe a hint towards the rumored Rebellion pack:
blog.bioware.com/2012/05/09/operation-silencer/: "The vorcha want in, and as soon as they complete combined-arms training
with our technically-skilled personnel, we will let them loose."

[/quote]

Thanks a lot for the info, Max! 

You have any new ideas about IT?  Always interested in your opinions.

[/quote]

Still
love the sound files posted by @TSA_383 from the shepdead Jungle scene
and shepalive breath scene. Imo some interesting background going on.
Seems to fit with what @DJBare suggested about the electric discharge
sound at the Citadel console.

[/quote]

I still think my youtube video was cooler [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/whistling.png[/smilie]


[/quote]

No,
it's cool, but for the squadmate lines, I like the "Never ending
nightmare" video somewhat better, the background music creates the
proper atmosphere for the lines. I think they were intended to be heard
with emotion.
But for objective analysis purpose, it's better.

Yvonna delivered Miranda's lines LIKE A BOSS!

Kudos for you're little "Shepard" sequences.

EDIT:
What do YOU hear it say?

[/quote]

Definitely hear both "Harbinger" and the child saying "Please come home" (brilliant find TSA).

[/quote]
What I hear:
bioa_nor_600dream.wwise_norhub_dreams.env_nor_dreams_child_creepy_VO_01
Come with me

bioa_nor_600dream.wwise_norhub_dreams.env_nor_dreams_child_creepy_VO_02
Come with me

bioa_nor_600dream.wwise_norhub_dreams.env_nor_dreams_child_creepy_VO_03
???
come home (guess that is what you guys see as "please come home" but I
cannot tell if the first word is really please, too distorted for me)


Also
the creepy sounds after that, these are pure guesses of what I think I
hear, some lines are also just too distorted to make out any word)

8:08-8:23 (4x, and several times before, but this is the clearest one, increasing in clearness/volume/forcefullness)
Come with me (last one seems to be only "Come")

8:34-8:47 (also repeated multiple times in that timespan)
??? future / Harbinger (can't tell if its either the one or the other)[/quote]

Nice.  You guys must have better hearing than me, I can't hear anything but grunts, growls, etc.


[/quote]
This.
You guys have reinterpreted the quieter bits in interesting ways, so I fed everything through my LOLOMGCOMPRESSOR to annihilate the quiet bits and actually it's enabled me to hear the interesting bits more easily.
I have a huge folder of sound files (well... 50MB) uploading just now via my crappy, crappy internet which you should all take a look at once it's done.


[quote]dreamgazer wrote...

[quote]estebanus wrote...
Don't forget, this thread is kinda a safe haven from the ****storm going on outside!:P

[/quote]

This was actually the reason why I popped my head in the thread just now, in that I wanted to say that the discussion in here---despite the blunt-headed garbage going on in other threads about the theory---is mostly-always lucid, civil, and intelligent, and it feels more comfortable than in the other quadrants of the forum. I don't participate much in here since I'd just be unearthing the same clues and offering my interpretation, but I always enjoy looking in here and including whatever I can. (thumbs up)

The other threads feel like a battle zone; this one feels like a playground. And for someone who just wants to chat about the themes and theories of the game, since a lot of this theory itself pivots on them, it's great. 

[/quote]

Totally agreed.
I :wub: this thread.

[quote]Tirian Thorn wrote...

[quote]Uncle Jo wrote...

[quote]Tirian Thorn wrote...


Here’s something to consider. 
Cerberus’ top man – TIM – had been indoctrinated. TIM had EVA grab the plans for the Crucible.   Did Eva have time to:

1)       Alter the plans making the Crucible function differently

2)     
 Send Cerberus a copy of the plans that were forwarded to the reapers
so they knew what to expect. Victory says that the nature of the
catalyst was kept secret because the reapers would protect it. 

So was the Citadel/Crucible the bait to lure Shepard into a trap to finally indoctrinate him/her? 


[/quote]Awww man you're putting me in a tight corner Posted Image
! But I won't give up so easily. Let me put some thoughts about it and
I'll try to come with a plausible answer..If you're still interested...


[/quote]

And is the Citadel really the Catalyst. 

TIM got a hold of the Prothean VI - is it possible he reprogrammed it? 

[/quote]
This was actually my immediate first thought when I met the VI again on my first playthrough - "TIM's tampered with it anyway... surely this is a trick"

But no, apparently nobody goes to school in the future and shep and co blindly trust the VI and go back to earth just like the little space child told them to :lol:

[quote]NeoDobby wrote...

Ok guys. All this talk about Overlord
and the Arrival (yeah I know, 20 pages ago) convinced me. I finally
decided to get them. Yes, I haven't played them yet *sinks in a puddle
of shame* Now I feel a little between the chairs. I was always kind of
adamant about not buying DLC (though I did buy LotSB). On
the other hand, I feel very dedicated to the series and it wouldn't feel
right without having seen the whole story. Well, at least I didn't by
the weapon/appearence packs (really, Bioware?).

Maybe I'll read
the books and comics, too. I actually thought about that while playing,
but then I got to the ending and felt like basically everyone else at
that point and wasn't so sure if my dedication is worth it anymore. But
then I got to this thread and I have hope again. So here's to the DLC I
missed so fare and another playthrough of ME 3 with my (this time
complete) Shepard from ME 2.

...

Well, in up to 4 hours, because my internet connection sucks -.-
[/quote]
Sweet. If you have a copy of fraps (and if you don't, get one, it's awesome) could you please record any interesting bits and pieces - maybe just take screenshots?
We'll... make you cookies :lol:

[quote]ExtendedCut wrote...

[quote]MaximizedAction wrote...



EDIT:
What do YOU hear it say?

[/quote]

Thanks
for the info, guys.  Sorry for coming in late, but what scene are those
Reaper noises from again?  Is that from the last dream sequence? 
Thanks! [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/wondering.png[/smilie]




[/quote]
Yes, yes it is.

#54597
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GLOOOORY!

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Bm Fahrtz

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byne wrote...

Bm Fahrtz wrote...


Wow is getting crazy. I swear, eventualy the game is just going to be a bunch of women running around in nipple tassels and thongs.

Cant wait to see the hot Pandarin rule 34's  :)


The thing is, WoW isnt getting crazy, it was always crazy. That chest and leg 'armor' is actually armor from Vanilla WoW.


That armor would look hawt on a dwarf

Edit: Happy new year!

Modifié par Bm Fahrtz, 10 mai 2012 - 09:00 .


#54599
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NeoDobby wrote...

estebanus wrote...

NeoDobby wrote...

estebanus wrote...

NeoDobby wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Boradam wrote...

estebanus wrote...

2183!!!


Tequila Se'lai, EsteBAAAAAANus.



Who's like us?


Damn few. And they're all dead!



I like this human! He understands!


*points at his profile picture* "Ahem" ;)



Turian! I don't see the bloody difference!

Dextro, Levo... They're all the same to me!


Famous last words of a human before "swallowing"?



LOLno. I love Garrus, but not like that. The only romance my Shep ever will have is with Liara, and no one else!

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byne wrote...

Bm Fahrtz wrote...


Wow is getting crazy. I swear, eventualy the game is just going to be a bunch of women running around in nipple tassels and thongs.

Cant wait to see the hot Pandarin rule 34's  :)


The thing is, WoW isnt getting crazy, it was always crazy. That chest and leg 'armor' is actually armor from Vanilla WoW.


Those were the days, when the server made their own battlegrounds, farming kills for nothing while wearing funny clothes.