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[Davies993]

mr.surv wrote...

Humakt83 wrote...

Is it just me or is something odd with Joker's eyes at ending scene?

I also noticed that something is not right....

I didn't see anything there... but look at Shepards eyes when he chooses the control option.

They turn into TIM/Saren's eyes.

Modifié par Davies993, 13 mars 2012 - 12:17 .

[blooregard]

rogueagent6 wrote...

blooregard wrote...

Malanek999 wrote...

Miss Vader wrote...

Im just curious about if there is some sort of Reaper tech on board Normandy that is indoctrinating Shep-- shouldn't the other characters become indoctrinated as well/

You can explain this easily by Sheps implants.

the reaper IFF may still be on the normandy I never liked the thought of reaper tech on my ship (with the exception of EDI) maybe the IFF is releasing some faint indoctronation signal and james is the only one who's picking it up? 

I'm pretty sure EDI mentions that it's codes have been updated at some point.

even if the codes are changed I'm pretty sure the reaper IFF is a physical object you found on the derelict reaper and its probably the only thing on the normandy that could be capible of indoctronation

[PrivateFrost]

Action Bawstard wrote...

I have searched for this answer though this thread, but cannot seem to find one. Sorry if this was already answered. But when the Normandy lands on Planet X (whatever it is), besides Joker coming out, do the teammates you selected for the final battle abort the Normandy as well? From the videos I have seen, I always see Tali and Garrus. But is it because always brings them?

I chose synthesis. My final squad was Ash and Garrus. At the final scene, I saw EDI and Joker getting out and hugging, then Ashley also getting out. 

CREDITS BEGIN TO ROLL

[Dessalines]

DarkFire77777 wrote...

Guys, I'm on my second playthrough, and I noticed an email that comes through named "ANN Alert: New Article on "Indoctrination"" Among other things, one paragraph talks about the indoctrinated Asari and says the following:

Prior to her death, investigators said Thanoptis spoke of voices in her head, which they believed to be indicative of her indoctrination. The voices foretold the ascension of the asari -- and told Thanoptis that anyone fighting the Reapers "needed to die".

Now, I could be wrong, but didn't the god-child say that in the synthesis ending that all organics would "ascend" to the height of evolution??

Just a thought. ; )

I did not get this during my first playthrough. I wonder how far are you in the game? Did anyone else get this message?

[GBGriffin]

timj2011 wrote...

has anybody seen the outcome of the Prejek Paddle fish import? my guide says if you import from ME2 with the fish and play through ME3 twice with fish alive, we get special intel

It's just an intel bonus, 10% to weapons or power damage

[kyrieee]

Miss Vader wrote...

more proof of destroy being good ending-- when you shoot at it, the boy disappears the same time it explodes, but when you choose control and grasp the rods (?) you see the boy just staring and watching-- almost smirking? in vid:

I've looked so many times but I can't see the smirk =/

[LenabotSE]

I always found it suspect that, on the Cerberus base, they make a point about going on about EDI's creation and Shepard's rebirth at the same time. But without giving too much away.

Shepard is said to be absolutely brain dead, but the precise method of his/her restoration is never disclosed (unless I missed something huge). All it boiled down to was the Illusive Man insisting that Miranda and the team would find a way.

At the same time, you learn that EDI was an existing (but broken) AI that's been fixed and enhanced using Reaper tech.

Shepard questions whether she/he is just an advanced AI that's meant to think like the real Shepard, at which point your team reassures you, but the writers make an almost deliberate point not to state if EDI's rebirth mirrors Shepard's -- using Reaper tech to restore an enhance the original being.

Maybe cut dialogue, maybe didn't have time to write an explanation, or maybe something deliberately left up to the player.

[novaseeker]

De1ta G wrote...

If you choose Control... you have become The Illusive Man
If you choose Synthesis... you have become Saren
If you choose Destroy... you are still Shepard

Yes.

[Miss Vader]

I think Shep is the catalyst- especially so if we can hear the sheps voice with the catalyst

[AM94]

Idk if anyone has said this but Shepard looks to turn into a Reaper both through the Synthesis and Control options and not through the Destroy option.

[rogueagent6]

blooregard wrote...

rogueagent6 wrote...

blooregard wrote...

Malanek999 wrote...

Miss Vader wrote...

Im just curious about if there is some sort of Reaper tech on board Normandy that is indoctrinating Shep-- shouldn't the other characters become indoctrinated as well/

You can explain this easily by Sheps implants.

the reaper IFF may still be on the normandy I never liked the thought of reaper tech on my ship (with the exception of EDI) maybe the IFF is releasing some faint indoctronation signal and james is the only one who's picking it up? 

I'm pretty sure EDI mentions that it's codes have been updated at some point.

even if the codes are changed I'm pretty sure the reaper IFF is a physical object you found on the derelict reaper and its probably the only thing on the normandy that could be capible of indoctronation

Sorry, I ment to say I think you are correct being that EDI did mention that the IFF's codes had been updated.

[Purplesun]

I also noticed a few things at the part where the Normandy landed on a planet. First of all they were in dead space. There was nothing near by. I don't see any possible way for them to land safely on a planet. Even then, none of them seem sad or depressed about anything. They just have straight faces and everything. Even if you romanced Ashley (like I did) she showed no emotion that they are stranded and that shepard is dead/not with her.

[Action Bawstard]

PrivateFrost wrote...

Action Bawstard wrote...

I have searched for this answer though this thread, but cannot seem to find one. Sorry if this was already answered. But when the Normandy lands on Planet X (whatever it is), besides Joker coming out, do the teammates you selected for the final battle abort the Normandy as well? From the videos I have seen, I always see Tali and Garrus. But is it because always brings them?

I chose synthesis. My final squad was Ash and Garrus. At the final scene, I saw EDI and Joker getting out and hugging, then Ashley also getting out. 

CREDITS BEGIN TO ROLL

Im curious to think about why its your squad that is abord the Normandy then? Werent they on the battfield with you? How the hell did they get aboard the Normandy AND why were they traveling through the Mass relays in teh first place?

[Kmikerius]

I hope so

[rogueagent6]

Luc0s wrote...

blooregard wrote...

even if the codes are changed I'm pretty sure the reaper IFF is a physical object you found on the derelict reaper and its probably the only thing on the normandy that could be capible of indoctronation

An IFF is not a physical object, it's only software.

So yeah, no.

So why did you have to go retreive it from dead Reaper in ME2? I'm pretty sure it was a physical piece of hardware.

[PrivateFrost]

Action Bawstard wrote...

PrivateFrost wrote...

Action Bawstard wrote...

I have searched for this answer though this thread, but cannot seem to find one. Sorry if this was already answered. But when the Normandy lands on Planet X (whatever it is), besides Joker coming out, do the teammates you selected for the final battle abort the Normandy as well? From the videos I have seen, I always see Tali and Garrus. But is it because always brings them?

I chose synthesis. My final squad was Ash and Garrus. At the final scene, I saw EDI and Joker getting out and hugging, then Ashley also getting out. 

CREDITS BEGIN TO ROLL

Im curious to think about why its your squad that is abord the Normandy then? Werent they on the battfield with you? How the hell did they get aboard the Normandy AND why were they traveling through the Mass relays in teh first place?

That's one of the reason people think it was all an hallucination. 

[krystalevenstar]

Miss Vader wrote...

I think Shep is the catalyst- especially so if we can hear the sheps voice with the catalyst

100% you can hear both Jennifer Hale and Mark Meer. We're working on making their individual channels more predominant: Watch this video and specifically try to ignore the child's voice.

[Fledgey]

rogueagent6 wrote...

Luc0s wrote...

blooregard wrote...

even if the codes are changed I'm pretty sure the reaper IFF is a physical object you found on the derelict reaper and its probably the only thing on the normandy that could be capible of indoctronation

An IFF is not a physical object, it's only software.

So yeah, no.

So why did you have to go retreive it from dead Reaper in ME2? I'm pretty sure it was a physical piece of hardware.

You get it off of a human terminal because a previous team had already recovered it. Right?

[novaseeker]

Miss Vader wrote...

I think Shep is the catalyst- especially so if we can hear the sheps voice with the catalyst

Now that's a good thought.

Shepard is the catalyst himself, without him the "reaction" enabled by the crucible cannot take place.  The space child is not the catalyst, but simply a projection of Harbinger, and is lying through his teeth most of the time because it's Harbinger trying to finally indoctrinate Shepard so as to prevent the Catalyst from catalyzing the reaction.

[chancewc64]

I'm liking the Indoctrinated theory because it is making me feel less like Bioware just shot my dog. My only concern is if this is true, whats up the the stargazer scene after the credits? That tiny scene alone makes it seem like everything we just witnessed really happened. Had the Scene with Shepard taking a breath in the streets of london come after the credits instead of stargazer, then there wouldn't be a doubt in my mind.

[TcomJ]

Fledgey wrote...

TcomJ wrote...

Ok, I admit that the part where Shep is on The Crucible makes so much sense witht he theory you guys mention.... BUT THERE IS A HUGE PROBLEM WITH THIS THEORY.

For Hallucination theory:

- So after you choose any of the option, the main problem is with JOKER!!!! Don't for get he runs away from the blast regardless what the color is.

- Your crewmate magically appear to be on the Normandy when they were fighting on Earth.

- So if you choose red and Shep appears, Joker land on a random planet is now a dream too? Massrelay destruction is a dream too? C'mon.

Therefore the halucination (dreaming) theory doesn't support why this ending is so bad.

For indoctrination theory:

- This is a really good theory explaining this ending, but the ending is still horrifying compare of how much better Bioware can do.

- Think about it, spend 100+ hrs for ME1,2,3, collecting crucible techs, military strength, and try to save everybody making the peace pact...."Sorry, your shep is now indoctrinated and you only have this option". More like a sorry excuse to be lazy.

- With the list just above, tell me with your straight face that this is a good design endings???

This is the ending I recommend you guys to read. It has indoctrination element and much clearer explaination of what actually happen to the story for any players:


http://social.biowar...index/9833130/1
THIS IS NOW MY ENDING!!!! VERY WELL WRITTEN!!!

 I'm really sick of you pushing this **** when everyone has probably already read it. The discussion for it is in that thread. It's obvious you're not reading this thread, because all of those questions have already been answered.

Oh please. It's like you are trying to justify that the ending is good eventhough how bad written it is, It's like you read Harry Potter, 7 of them, and then JK Rolling tells
you at the end of the very last paragraph that this is all just a dream. LOL


Go to any good writers and they will laugh their ass off for this. Meaning, I'd be even more dissapointed if this theory was their intention!

[Auresta]

Davies993 wrote...

mr.surv wrote...

Humakt83 wrote...

Is it just me or is something odd with Joker's eyes at ending scene?

I also noticed that something is not right....

I didn't see anything there... but look at Shepards eyes when he chooses the control option.

They turn into TIM/Saren's eyes.

Could be a simple coincidence. And does this change if you were more Renegade in your playthrough?