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#55076
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Arian Dynas wrote...

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I feel the need to point out that SR1's drive core was 3x bigger than a standard drive core for a ship its size, and it in no way looked like a magically-semi-reflective-sphere-of-the-same-type-as-you-see-in-multiple-prothean-artifacts.

Ahem. Begging pardons.


Retconned, and this core is bigger than that.


Roger the retcon. Hate when that happens. But whyyyyyyyyy!

#55077
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gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

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Hey guys, what's the link to the literalist thread?, I feel like lurking for a bit to see what they're crapping on about.


Did you change your icon? I swear I thought that was wald come back to haunt us.

Just making preparations for my delve into literalist territories, thought it best to blend into the surroundings before I did.


Also, who is this Wald you speak of?

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Arian Dynas

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Salient Archer wrote...

Salient Archer wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Salient Archer wrote...

Hey guys, what's the link to the literalist thread?, I feel like lurking for a bit to see what they're crapping on about.


Did you change your icon? I swear I thought that was wald come back to haunt us.

Just making preparations for my delve into literalist territories, thought it best to blend into the surroundings before I did.


Also, who is this Wald you speak of?


DO NOT SPEAK HIS NAME ALOUD!

w-a-l-d-s-t-e-r-1-8

The most annoying, immature, obnoxious troll we have had on this thread. I would pity him, were he worth pitying.

Modifié par Arian Dynas, 11 mai 2012 - 09:48 .


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Salient Archer wrote...

Salient Archer wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Salient Archer wrote...

Hey guys, what's the link to the literalist thread?, I feel like lurking for a bit to see what they're crapping on about.


Did you change your icon? I swear I thought that was wald come back to haunt us.

Just making preparations for my delve into literalist territories, thought it best to blend into the surroundings before I did.


Also, who is this Wald you speak of?


You don' wanna know o_o. Let's just say an obvious sort of troll. With that, time for bed, night everyone.

#55080
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HellishFiend wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Not counting on this myself, I think EC will just expand on what we currently have for ending choices and HOPEFULLY expand on the IT. Then we can look forward to post game DLC with Shepard waking up in a hospital of some kind and either living happily with his/her LI or helping to finish the mop up op against the remaining Reaper forces.


So you're saying:

>ME3 on-disc content
>EC (Bioware's "official" IT confirmation/explanation)
>Post endgame DLC 

I guess that could make sense, though I'll be a bit disappointed unless the post-ending DLC is WELL worth the wait....


Didn't Bioware specifically state that EC would be the only post-ending DLC in the plans? I saw someone else saying this so not sure myself, not that I don't want it :D My personal thinking is they are sort-of carrying the baattle forward with the multiplayer weekend events, and the ANN reports; showing that fight is still going on; then they would releaase the EC (or more ending DLCs) to provide the concusion.


I remember hearing that too, which is why I'm hesitant to believe that the EC wont fully wrap up the story. But since they do want to keep making single player DLC, I guess anything is possible. 


In case this hasn't been answered yet,(I'm about 10hrs behind) here is the link toBioware blog where is states that no further ending DLC is planned

key thing is the word planned, there may still be more depending on fan reaction

#55081
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IT'S TOO QUIET!

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I'm working on something, so just for you Arian, it'll be big, loud and full of explosions.

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Arian Dynas wrote...

IT'S TOO QUIET!

You clearly need my lolmgcompressor :lol:

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Ooooh... is boom-time...

Also, was listening to the cut Anderson dialogue (why can I not find the broshep version? D: ) and noticed a few interesting things.

One, the obvious lie that Anderson never had a family, because he does in fact have a wife and son, and more interestingly, Shepard claiming she's "a soldier" whom could never settle down. Hmmm, sounds kind of like;

"Whom will you listen to Shepard? An old soldier past his prime, only able to see life down the barrel of a gun?"

No? Perhaps it's Shep's subconcious desire to retire and rest, seeing himself as being "past his prime."

That and Shepard seeking absolution, forgiveness for his sins before he can go on, free of emotional baggage and guilt weighing him down, making him easier to indoctrinate, with the illusory Anderson acting as a proxy, capable of exonerating him in his own mind.

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Arian Dynas wrote...

Ooooh... is boom-time...

Also, was listening to the cut Anderson dialogue (why can I not find the broshep version? D: ) and noticed a few interesting things.

One, the obvious lie that Anderson never had a family, because he does in fact have a wife and son, and more interestingly, Shepard claiming she's "a soldier" whom could never settle down. Hmmm, sounds kind of like;

"Whom will you listen to Shepard? An old soldier past his prime, only able to see life down the barrel of a gun?"

No? Perhaps it's Shep's subconcious desire to retire and rest, seeing himself as being "past his prime."

That and Shepard seeking absolution, forgiveness for his sins before he can go on, free of emotional baggage and guilt weighing him down, making him easier to indoctrinate, with the illusory Anderson acting as a proxy, capable of exonerating him in his own mind.



That settles it then.... it was an illusion.  Bioware must have intended Indoctrination.  That cut out scene proves it since we know that Anderson had a family or rather HAS A FAMILY Posted Image

It makes sense too, because if they had kept that cut scene in there they would have given it away.  Some people are going to say that it was taken out because they decided not to go with it, but we all know that isn't what happened.  You don't make a scene like that without a special kind of intent and just throw away the concept.

Modifié par liggy002, 11 mai 2012 - 11:21 .


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Also, one request to Bioware, an enhanced meshes/appearances pack, in the next patch, to make Allers look more human, make Joker look more like himself, give more variance to what the capital ship Reapers look like, like we saw in ME2, make Harbinger look like his ME2 self, and FIX UP THE DAMN NORMANDY! Jesus Christ, someone is gonna trip over those fricking cables, I just know it.

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liggy002 wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Ooooh... is boom-time...

Also, was listening to the cut Anderson dialogue (why can I not find the broshep version? D: ) and noticed a few interesting things.

One, the obvious lie that Anderson never had a family, because he does in fact have a wife and son, and more interestingly, Shepard claiming she's "a soldier" whom could never settle down. Hmmm, sounds kind of like;

"Whom will you listen to Shepard? An old soldier past his prime, only able to see life down the barrel of a gun?"

No? Perhaps it's Shep's subconcious desire to retire and rest, seeing himself as being "past his prime."

That and Shepard seeking absolution, forgiveness for his sins before he can go on, free of emotional baggage and guilt weighing him down, making him easier to indoctrinate, with the illusory Anderson acting as a proxy, capable of exonerating him in his own mind.



That settles it then.... it was an illusion.  Bioware must have intended Indoctrination.  That cut out scene proves it since we know that Anderson had a family or rather HAS A FAMILY Posted Image

It makes sense too, because if they had kept that cut scene in there they would have given it away.  Some people are going to say that it was taken out because they decided not to go with it, but we all know that isn't what happened.  You don't make a scene like that without a special kind of intent and just throw away the concept.


Well actually, the lie about his family is still in, and apparently you can get this dialogue if you romanced NO ONE, no one at all. So I do stand corrected, though in that event, it's likely Anderson taking on a greater importance in Shep's life, lacking in a LI, and at some point, there probably was a conversation with a LI there, otherwise they'd have prolly done the Anderson dialogue for everyone

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I'm gonna play devil's advocate and say what if they simply recorded those lines in error, and when they realized their mistake, thats why they had to take them out? 

Of course, its also possible that they did it on purpose, but decided it was too obvious a clue, and took them out. 

Modifié par HellishFiend, 11 mai 2012 - 11:23 .


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Arian Dynas wrote...

Well actually, the lie about his family is still in, and apparently you can get this dialogue if you romanced NO ONE, no one at all. So I do stand corrected, though in that event, it's likely Anderson taking on a greater importance in Shep's life, lacking in a LI, and at some point, there probably was a conversation with a LI there, otherwise they'd have prolly done the Anderson dialogue for everyone


I'm assuming you have proof of this since you sound so certain. Feel like sharing? :D

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Arian Dynas wrote...

liggy002 wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Ooooh... is boom-time...

Also, was listening to the cut Anderson dialogue (why can I not find the broshep version? D: ) and noticed a few interesting things.

One, the obvious lie that Anderson never had a family, because he does in fact have a wife and son, and more interestingly, Shepard claiming she's "a soldier" whom could never settle down. Hmmm, sounds kind of like;

"Whom will you listen to Shepard? An old soldier past his prime, only able to see life down the barrel of a gun?"

No? Perhaps it's Shep's subconcious desire to retire and rest, seeing himself as being "past his prime."

That and Shepard seeking absolution, forgiveness for his sins before he can go on, free of emotional baggage and guilt weighing him down, making him easier to indoctrinate, with the illusory Anderson acting as a proxy, capable of exonerating him in his own mind.



That settles it then.... it was an illusion.  Bioware must have intended Indoctrination.  That cut out scene proves it since we know that Anderson had a family or rather HAS A FAMILY Posted Image

It makes sense too, because if they had kept that cut scene in there they would have given it away.  Some people are going to say that it was taken out because they decided not to go with it, but we all know that isn't what happened.  You don't make a scene like that without a special kind of intent and just throw away the concept.


Well actually, the lie about his family is still in, and apparently you can get this dialogue if you romanced NO ONE, no one at all. So I do stand corrected, though in that event, it's likely Anderson taking on a greater importance in Shep's life, lacking in a LI, and at some point, there probably was a conversation with a LI there, otherwise they'd have prolly done the Anderson dialogue for everyone


Haha that's even better!  I had started a stock save with ME3 and made it through the game without romancing anyone.  The thing is,  I don't remember if we hear the dialogue about Anderson's family or not.

Modifié par liggy002, 11 mai 2012 - 11:30 .


#55091
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Also, let's see, for my next script re-write... things I gotta do... work in the Coates is a turncoat subplot, the "crucible as a Mass Accelerator cannon" theory, and potentially the "Crucible doesn't work" theory, and some places for gameplay possibly, perhaps using a laser to pain Harbinger while badly wounded? Hmm, though that would remove the dramatic exit I have planned for Harby... hmmmm... decisions decisions, what do you guys think? After all, I only write these for your collective enjoyment.

#55092
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HellishFiend wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Well actually, the lie about his family is still in, and apparently you can get this dialogue if you romanced NO ONE, no one at all. So I do stand corrected, though in that event, it's likely Anderson taking on a greater importance in Shep's life, lacking in a LI, and at some point, there probably was a conversation with a LI there, otherwise they'd have prolly done the Anderson dialogue for everyone


I'm assuming you have proof of this since you sound so certain. Feel like sharing? :D


Can' corroborate about the no romance thing 
  it's in the comments, but I can the lie, he said as much during my playthrough, and I knew right away, hell yes he DOES have a wife and son.

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Found the broshep version! :D

Modifié par Arian Dynas, 11 mai 2012 - 11:32 .


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A comment on youtube is far from proof... I'm calling bull.

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HellishFiend wrote...

A comment on youtube is far from proof... I'm calling bull.


Why not go corroborate it then? I would but... I'm lazy...-_-

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Arian Dynas wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

A comment on youtube is far from proof... I'm calling bull.


Why not go corroborate it then? I would but... I'm lazy...-_-


Because I'm sure it's just a troll trying to get some people to waste their time. 

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Arian Dynas wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Well actually, the lie about his family is still in, and apparently you can get this dialogue if you romanced NO ONE, no one at all. So I do stand corrected, though in that event, it's likely Anderson taking on a greater importance in Shep's life, lacking in a LI, and at some point, there probably was a conversation with a LI there, otherwise they'd have prolly done the Anderson dialogue for everyone


I'm assuming you have proof of this since you sound so certain. Feel like sharing? :D


Can' corroborate about the no romance thing 
  it's in the comments, but I can the lie, he said as much during my playthrough, and I knew right away, hell yes he DOES have a wife and son.


On the no romance thing, I'll make the sacrifice and test it out.  No romance through all 3 games.  I'll put it to the test though it will take some time with my schedule.

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HellishFiend wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

A comment on youtube is far from proof... I'm calling bull.


Why not go corroborate it then? I would but... I'm lazy...-_-


Because I'm sure it's just a troll trying to get some people to waste their time. 


To which I say again, one it's not one person saying it, it's three or four different ones, and I am saying, if you want to do so, and count it as evidence, go and corroborate it.

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Arian Dynas wrote...

Salient Archer wrote...

Salient Archer wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Salient Archer wrote...

Hey guys, what's the link to the literalist thread?, I feel like lurking for a bit to see what they're crapping on about.


Did you change your icon? I swear I thought that was wald come back to haunt us.

Just making preparations for my delve into literalist territories, thought it best to blend into the surroundings before I did.


Also, who is this Wald you speak of?


DO NOT SPEAK HIS NAME ALOUD!

w-a-l-d-s-t-e-r-1-8

The most annoying, immature, obnoxious troll we have had on this thread. I would pity him, were he worth pitying.


youve called? whats up? anything been proven yet?

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GODDAMN IT SALIENT!