Aller au contenu

Photo

Was the ending a hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory


57139 réponses à ce sujet

#55101
HellishFiend

HellishFiend
  • Members
  • 5 546 messages

Arian Dynas wrote...


To which I say again, one it's not one person saying it, it's three or four different ones, and I am saying, if you want to do so, and count it as evidence, go and corroborate it.


I've no interest in corroborating it, and will continue to disbelieve it unless I see a video... 

The game has been out for two months. A video would be posted already if this were true.

#55102
HellishFiend

HellishFiend
  • Members
  • 5 546 messages

waldstr18 wrote...

youve called? whats up? anything been proven yet?


The fact that you're standing here proves it! But it also proves that Arian's solution wont work anymore. :lol:

#55103
liggy002

liggy002
  • Members
  • 5 337 messages

HellishFiend wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...


To which I say again, one it's not one person saying it, it's three or four different ones, and I am saying, if you want to do so, and count it as evidence, go and corroborate it.


I've no interest in corroborating it, and will continue to disbelieve it unless I see a video... 

The game has been out for two months. A video would be posted already if this were true.



Go play all 3 games and find out for yourself.  Don't romance anyone.  At least that's what I'm going to do.  Think about it though, how many people went through all 3 games without romancing anyone, almost no one.  It's an easy way to hide something important from us.

#55104
Arian Dynas

Arian Dynas
  • Members
  • 3 799 messages

HellishFiend wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

youve called? whats up? anything been proven yet?


The fact that you're standing here proves it! But it also proves that Arian's solution wont work anymore. :lol:

 

Dissolving him in a soloution. Tempting thought. You tease.

#55105
HellishFiend

HellishFiend
  • Members
  • 5 546 messages

liggy002 wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...


To which I say again, one it's not one person saying it, it's three or four different ones, and I am saying, if you want to do so, and count it as evidence, go and corroborate it.


I've no interest in corroborating it, and will continue to disbelieve it unless I see a video... 

The game has been out for two months. A video would be posted already if this were true.



Go play all 3 games and find out for yourself.  Don't romance anyone.  At least that's what I'm going to do.  Think about it though, how many people went through all 3 games without romancing anyone, almost no one.  It's an easy way to hide something important from us.


Why do the both of you keep telling me to try it out...? I've said repeatedly that I dont believe its true, so why would I want to spend the time trying it out? 40 hours is about 39 hours and 30 minutes longer than I'm willing to spend trying to disprove something that I dont believe. 

#55106
liggy002

liggy002
  • Members
  • 5 337 messages
The anti IT believers are just going call this new evidence with Anderson bad writing... and they say that we are the ones who are in denial :)

Modifié par liggy002, 11 mai 2012 - 11:49 .


#55107
DJBare

DJBare
  • Members
  • 6 510 messages
Anderson: I was born in London.
Shepard: Yeah, you already told me this via the holograph, going senile old friend?

#55108
waldstr18

waldstr18
  • Members
  • 555 messages

Arian Dynas wrote...

Dissolving him in a soloution. Tempting thought. You tease.


sorry, cant stay. but dont you also have anything better to do than still theorizing about a game from .. when was it released again? long ago...

there is stuff outside. like trees! you like trees. or so i have read in your theory. but mind the sun, its like the harbinger beam, except it gives you cancer instead of indoctrination theories.

#55109
HellishFiend

HellishFiend
  • Members
  • 5 546 messages

liggy002 wrote...

The anti IT believers are just going call this new evidence with Anderson bad writing... and they say that we are the ones who are in denial :)


Except it's not evidence since its not in the game. I'm still 99% sure IT is correct, but we cant use the cut Anderson lines as evidence. That would be like trying to use the cubemap tree reflections as evidence if the cubemaps werent actually used in the game. 

#55110
liggy002

liggy002
  • Members
  • 5 337 messages
You don't know it's not in the game. You can't make that statement until you prove or disprove it.  And suppose it was cut?  That means that Bioware intended to use it at one point.  Think what you want but I bet that it's true. 

Modifié par liggy002, 11 mai 2012 - 11:54 .


#55111
Arian Dynas

Arian Dynas
  • Members
  • 3 799 messages

waldstr18 wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Dissolving him in a soloution. Tempting thought. You tease.


sorry, cant stay. but dont you also have anything better to do than still theorizing about a game from .. when was it released again? long ago...

there is stuff outside. like trees! you like trees. or so i have read in your theory. but mind the sun, its like the harbinger beam, except it gives you cancer instead of indoctrination theories.


Ah Waldstr, once again you prove you have the mental capacities of a goldfish, it was 2 months ago, remember? But seeing as you are incapable of remembering anything beyond the elapsed period of 2 weeks, I shall stop giving you a hard time. It's not fair engaging idiots in a battle of wits.

Also, I happen to be quite enjoying the little sunlight we get up here in Alaska, seeing as I happen to be capable of doing more than one thing at a time, whereas you have difficulty walking and chewing bubblegum simaltaneously.

Modifié par Arian Dynas, 11 mai 2012 - 11:55 .


#55112
MegumiAzusa

MegumiAzusa
  • Members
  • 4 238 messages

Anchor654 wrote...

Anchor654 wrote...

 I'm just going to leave this here...

Posted Image

Posted Image

Maybe this is how Shep is indoctrinated. What exactly is in that drive core sphere anyway? We only know what we've been told from Cerberus.

I think it could be a reaper artifact like in Arrival and the one that affected Saren and the Illusive Man in the comics. Perhaps it just took longer because Shep never touches the one on the Normandy. It takes time. 


Also, I had just finished watching the 1hr 1/2 documentary on indoctrination theory by the way and am completely sold. (Found here: http://m.youtube.com...h?v=caAqFFhBn2U ) I just see a reaper artifact being inside the Normandy drive core sphere being a way to explain how Shep gets indoctrinated through ME2-3 than just by encounters with reaper tech over time and/or the Eva/Edi robot reaper tech body theory that I've heard.

1st: That video is crap.
2nd: The drive core got a complete overhaul compared to ME2, just look at it in ME2, it looks completely different. If it would be an artifact like you think they would have some husks running around.

#55113
Arian Dynas

Arian Dynas
  • Members
  • 3 799 messages

HellishFiend wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...


To which I say again, one it's not one person saying it, it's three or four different ones, and I am saying, if you want to do so, and count it as evidence, go and corroborate it.


I've no interest in corroborating it, and will continue to disbelieve it unless I see a video... 

The game has been out for two months. A video would be posted already if this were true.


If that were the case, then we'd also have a video of EDI walking off the Normandy in the Destroy ending.

#55114
HellishFiend

HellishFiend
  • Members
  • 5 546 messages

liggy002 wrote...

You don't know it's not in the game. You can't make that statement until you prove or disprove it.  And suppose it was cut?  That means that Bioware intended to use it at one point.  Think what you want but I bet that it's true. 


We have no grounds to speculate on why it was cut. It is no more likely that it was cut because it would give away IT than it being cut because they were recorded by mistake, or even because the director decided it hampered the flow of the scene.

And youtube comments are only minimally more credible than 4chan posts, and thats not saying much.

I want to find tangible clues and evidence, ideally ones that appear to have been placed intentionally by Bioware. Not draw conclusions based on content that isnt even in the game. 

#55115
HellishFiend

HellishFiend
  • Members
  • 5 546 messages

Arian Dynas wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...


To which I say again, one it's not one person saying it, it's three or four different ones, and I am saying, if you want to do so, and count it as evidence, go and corroborate it.


I've no interest in corroborating it, and will continue to disbelieve it unless I see a video... 

The game has been out for two months. A video would be posted already if this were true.


If that were the case, then we'd also have a video of EDI walking off the Normandy in the Destroy ending.


What's your point? I never cited "EDI walking off the Normandy in the Destroy ending" as evidence, nor did it come up in this discussion, so I'm not sure what that has to do with the point I'm trying to make. 

#55116
Arian Dynas

Arian Dynas
  • Members
  • 3 799 messages

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Anchor654 wrote...

Anchor654 wrote...

 I'm just going to leave this here...

*snip*

*snip*

Maybe this is how Shep is indoctrinated. What exactly is in that drive core sphere anyway? We only know what we've been told from Cerberus.

I think it could be a reaper artifact like in Arrival and the one that affected Saren and the Illusive Man in the comics. Perhaps it just took longer because Shep never touches the one on the Normandy. It takes time. 


Also, I had just finished watching the 1hr 1/2 documentary on indoctrination theory by the way and am completely sold. (Found here: http://m.youtube.com...h?v=caAqFFhBn2U ) I just see a reaper artifact being inside the Normandy drive core sphere being a way to explain how Shep gets indoctrinated through ME2-3 than just by encounters with reaper tech over time and/or the Eva/Edi robot reaper tech body theory that I've heard.

1st: That video is crap.
2nd: The drive core got a complete overhaul compared to ME2, just look at it in ME2, it looks completely different. If it would be an artifact like you think they would have some husks running around.


First off, yeah saw said documentary, and I actually have a number of errors he made that I feel he needs to fix. Yes I am a nerd with an absurdly good memory.

Second off, no worries about this theory, it's dead and buried. So no need to bother.

#55117
DJBare

DJBare
  • Members
  • 6 510 messages

HellishFiend wrote...

liggy002 wrote...

The anti IT believers are just going call this new evidence with Anderson bad writing... and they say that we are the ones who are in denial :)


Except it's not evidence since its not in the game. I'm still 99% sure IT is correct, but we cant use the cut Anderson lines as evidence. That would be like trying to use the cubemap tree reflections as evidence if the cubemaps werent actually used in the game. 

In my opinion, none of the leaked script can be taken as any evidence, given microsofts policy regarding certification I find it hard to believe the beta with script embedded was an accidental release, it's not like it was hard to spot that it was a beta, lack of textures, no lip movement,, and the certification process takes weeks, so someone had to be sleeping on the job for weeks not to notice the glaring issues, I'm more convinced than ever that the leak was deliberate, false information.

#55118
Arian Dynas

Arian Dynas
  • Members
  • 3 799 messages

HellishFiend wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...


To which I say again, one it's not one person saying it, it's three or four different ones, and I am saying, if you want to do so, and count it as evidence, go and corroborate it.


I've no interest in corroborating it, and will continue to disbelieve it unless I see a video... 

The game has been out for two months. A video would be posted already if this were true.


If that were the case, then we'd also have a video of EDI walking off the Normandy in the Destroy ending.


What's your point? I never cited "EDI walking off the Normandy in the Destroy ending" as evidence, nor did it come up in this discussion, so I'm not sure what that has to do with the point I'm trying to make. 


Not going to argue it with you man, take it how you will. I'm just the messager boy here.

On to a more important topic though;

Arian Dynas wrote...

Also, let's see, for my next script re-write... things I gotta do... work in the Coates is a turncoat subplot, the "crucible as a Mass Accelerator cannon" theory, and potentially the "Crucible doesn't work" theory, and some places for gameplay possibly, perhaps using a laser to pain Harbinger while badly wounded? Hmm, though that would remove the dramatic exit I have planned for Harby... hmmmm... decisions decisions, what do you guys think? After all, I only write these for your collective enjoyment.

 

#55119
HellishFiend

HellishFiend
  • Members
  • 5 546 messages

DJBare wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

liggy002 wrote...

The anti IT believers are just going call this new evidence with Anderson bad writing... and they say that we are the ones who are in denial :)


Except it's not evidence since its not in the game. I'm still 99% sure IT is correct, but we cant use the cut Anderson lines as evidence. That would be like trying to use the cubemap tree reflections as evidence if the cubemaps werent actually used in the game. 

In my opinion, none of the leaked script can be taken as any evidence, given microsofts policy regarding certification I find it hard to believe the beta with script embedded was an accidental release, it's not like it was hard to spot that it was a beta, lack of textures, no lip movement,, and the certification process takes weeks, so someone had to be sleeping on the job for weeks not to notice the glaring issues, I'm more convinced than ever that the leak was deliberate, false information.


I agree. I've never considered anything from the leaked script to be evidence for IT. 

#55120
estebanus

estebanus
  • Members
  • 5 987 messages
I just came back from my presentation. I got a 12! YAY!!!

Anyways, is there anything new going on?

#55121
DJBare

DJBare
  • Members
  • 6 510 messages

HellishFiend wrote...

DJBare wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

liggy002 wrote...

The anti IT believers are just going call this new evidence with Anderson bad writing... and they say that we are the ones who are in denial :)


Except it's not evidence since its not in the game. I'm still 99% sure IT is correct, but we cant use the cut Anderson lines as evidence. That would be like trying to use the cubemap tree reflections as evidence if the cubemaps werent actually used in the game. 

In my opinion, none of the leaked script can be taken as any evidence, given microsofts policy regarding certification I find it hard to believe the beta with script embedded was an accidental release, it's not like it was hard to spot that it was a beta, lack of textures, no lip movement,, and the certification process takes weeks, so someone had to be sleeping on the job for weeks not to notice the glaring issues, I'm more convinced than ever that the leak was deliberate, false information.


I agree. I've never considered anything from the leaked script to be evidence for IT. 

It can also be viewed as evidence for IT, "deception"

#55122
Stigweird85

Stigweird85
  • Members
  • 733 messages
What are we "debating" this time? A line that Anderson may or may not say?

#55123
HellishFiend

HellishFiend
  • Members
  • 5 546 messages

DJBare wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...



I agree. I've never considered anything from the leaked script to be evidence for IT. 

It can also be viewed as evidence for IT, "deception"


Possibly, though if it was an intentional leak, it is also plausible that they just wanted feedback, or to generate hype, as opposed to trying to cause misdirection. 

#55124
MegumiAzusa

MegumiAzusa
  • Members
  • 4 238 messages

Arian Dynas wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

1st: That video is crap.


First off, yeah saw said documentary, and I actually have a number of errors he made that I feel he needs to fix. Yes I am a nerd with an absurdly good memory.

There are at least 4 blatant errors in the first 20 minutes, that can even be disproven with the footage at these points, so no need to call yourself a nerd because of that :P

#55125
MegumiAzusa

MegumiAzusa
  • Members
  • 4 238 messages

pirate1802 wrote...

The Normandy drive core looks suspiciously like the destroy tube :o
Posted Image

Maybe you are already completely indoctrinated and your reality is completely skewed and in destroy you actually destroy the Normandy? :D