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[Salient Archer]

 
Supernovas
produces the same destructive power of 10^162 Gigaton of TNT
They full strength of the blast has a range of 10au depending on the size of the sun, but the remnant shockwave and radiation has a travel distance of around 50au with dissipating intensity over distance.

The Sol System Relay
For Relay orbiting distance the Sol Relay was approximately sitting 39au from our star.

The Mu Relay
It was estimated that the Mu Relay was much closer to the star that went supernova (possibly as close at 13au based on in-game start charts) but just to be lenient lets say it was still 39au from the blast center.

Due to It’s distance from the blast center it was hit with approximately only 10 Gigaton of TNT and as a result was not damaged but was flung out of it’s orbit. Although it could have been as high as 10^6 Gigaton.

The Citadel
As stated in Mass Effect Revelation The Citadel is made from the same materials as the Mass Relays. The presidium and each arm also contains pods that produce mass effect fields the protect the wards by keeping the outer skin separate from the rest of the structures, which protects it from intense external damage. It stands to reason the Citadel (with it’s arms closed) could also sustain external hits of a Gigaton or greater.

In essence; the Citadel would have to incur a massive internalized explosion, where it is most vulnerable. To be lenient lets place the explosion at no greater than 1 Gigaton (although could be as great as 10 Gigaton).

The Human Body
At 537 degrees celsius (1000 Fahrenheit) the human skin catches fire.
At 982 degrees celsius (1800 Fahrenheit) human bones can turn to ash
The blast that would have destroyed the Citadel would have produced temperatures in excess of 8,000,000 degrees celsius (14,400,032 Fahrenheit) vaporizing anyone inside the blast zone.

So what am I trying to say, well....

Modifié par Salient Archer, 11 mai 2012 - 12:45 .

[Arian Dynas]

Swimming Ferret wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Swimming Ferret wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Swimming Ferret wrote...

You know you really failed at an ending if fans wish it was a hallucination lol

Yes, but you've really succeeded at an ending when you've actually made it a hallucination that defies normal story conventions, breaking the forth wall and playing with the player's mind.

I think people are just desperate to think ME3 didn't end on such a craptastic note. But some people are just really lousy writers, as ME3 proved.

See what happens when you feed the trolls, Arian? Please, just let Garrus handle it. 

*snip*

Having played ME2, I'm sure you know that he has the stamina to repeat himself indefinitely in this regard.

Now now, if we took that point of veiw we'd never convince anyone, this fellow strikes me as being somewhat reasonable, and moderately intelligent, he came criticizing the endings, not really calling us stupid or delusional, or comparing us to religious fanatics, he apparently just thinks we're devoted fans (which we are) whom don't want to see Mass Effect die (which we don't) the only part he has wrong is thinking that we're pulling this out of our asses.

I'm a she by the way.

And no, I'm not a troll.

Disagreeing =/= troll.

I've just never been convinced by the Indoctrination Theory. I can't really think that Bioware would be foolish enough to not actually put it in the end game, what with the incredible backlash that's going on. They've made quite a few mistakes, such as day on DLC on disk and all those PR comments that make me way less inclined to listen to them. Also, they've already stated they will not change the end, and I don't understand how IT could be true if that is the case, since the IT rests on the fact the ends we get aren't the real end.

A few corrections.

From Ashes is in fact NOT on the disc, parts of it are, small parts, allowing the DLC to "plug in" to the main game itself, whereas the mission and much of the content are entirel in the DLC.

What's wrong with the PR comments in paticular? they're merely being cagey, from their perspective it's Christmas day, we come out to the christmas tree, get everything that we wanted, bar one, and find out last gift is too small to contain that one thing we wanted. Inside is a note, "Your gift's in the garage." But maybe you get used to this sort of thing when your parents pulled that **** on you every Christmas.

IDTY in fact relies on the end "not changing" but for more clarification to be made, you are intended to come upoin IDT on your own, not have it spelled out for you, unfortunately, quite a few people missed it, so they have to make the EC to spell it out.

And IDT doesn't rest on the enings not being "real" it rests on the fact that they do everything they can to communicate to you that "Something is not right here" Casey Hudson himself stated in an interveiw he wants players to feel what Shepard does, and being indoctrinated, Shepard would be confused and controlled, manipulated and forced to think his way out of mental traps. Just like what is going on right now.

And no, miss, you're not a troll, you've been moderately respectful thus far, and seem somewhat intelligent, if uninformed about the theory.

[Swimming Ferret]

HellishFiend wrote...

Swimming Ferret wrote...

I'm a she by the way.

And no, I'm not a troll.

Disagreeing =/= troll.

I've just never been convinced by the Indoctrination Theory. I can't really think that Bioware would be foolish enough to not actually put it in the end game, what with the incredible backlash that's going on. They've made quite a few mistakes, such as day on DLC on disk and all those PR comments that make me way less inclined to listen to them. Also, they've already stated they will not change the end, and I don't understand how IT could be true if that is the case, since the IT rests on the fact the ends we get aren't the real end.

Except you're not disagreeing, youre posing your opinions as fact, which comes off as trying to correct our mistaken beliefs rather than disagreeing. 

And you obviously arent up to speed on what IT really is, based on what you're saying. Everything in that entire paragraph (sans the Day 1 DLC) has already been addressed by IT. 

Oh come on, you can't act like Starchild was good writing, or how Cerberus was handled, even Shepard, regardless of IT or not.

[Arian Dynas]

Salient Archer wrote...

 
Supernovas
produces the same destructive power of 10^162 Gigaton of TNT
They full strength of the blast has a range of 10au depending on the size of the sun, but the remnant shockwave and radiation has a travel distance of around 50au with dissipating intensity over distance.

The Sol System Relay
For Relay orbiting distance the Sol Relay was approximately sitting 39au from our star.

The Mu Relay
It was estimated that the Mu Relay was much closer to the star that went supernova (possibly as close at 13au based on in-game start charts) but just to be lenient lets say it was still 39au from the blast center.

Due to It’s distance from the blast center it was hit with approximately only 10 Gigaton of TNT and as a result was not damaged but was flung out of it’s orbit. Although it could have been as high as 10^6 Gigaton.

The Citadel
As stated in Mass Effect Revelation The Citadel is made from the same materials as the Mass Relays. The presidium and each are also contains pods that produce mass effect fields the protect the wards by keeping the outer skin separate from the rest of the structures, which protects it from intense external damage. It stands to reason the Citadel (with it’s arms closed) could also sustain external hits of a Gigaton or greater.

In essence; the Citadel would have to incur a massive internalized explosion, where it is most vulnerable. To be lenient lets place the explosion at no greater than 1 Gigaton (although could be as great as 10 Gigaton).

The Human Body
At 537 degrees celsius (1000 Fahrenheit) the human skin catches fire.
At 982 degrees celsius (1800 Fahrenheit) human bones can turn to ash
The blast that would have destroyed the Citadel would have produced temperatures in excess of 8,000,000 degrees celsius (14,400,032 Fahrenheit) vaporizing anyone inside the blast zone.

So what am I trying to say, well....
*snip*

*whistle*

Yeowch. Though I'm beginning to feel like a broken record when I remind you, you're forgetting pressure waves.

Also, mass effect bubbles under the Citadel's skin? Kinda like air baffles? Cool.

[HellishFiend]

Swimming Ferret wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Swimming Ferret wrote...

I'm a she by the way.

And no, I'm not a troll.

Disagreeing =/= troll.

I've just never been convinced by the Indoctrination Theory. I can't really think that Bioware would be foolish enough to not actually put it in the end game, what with the incredible backlash that's going on. They've made quite a few mistakes, such as day on DLC on disk and all those PR comments that make me way less inclined to listen to them. Also, they've already stated they will not change the end, and I don't understand how IT could be true if that is the case, since the IT rests on the fact the ends we get aren't the real end.

Except you're not disagreeing, youre posing your opinions as fact, which comes off as trying to correct our mistaken beliefs rather than disagreeing. 

And you obviously arent up to speed on what IT really is, based on what you're saying. Everything in that entire paragraph (sans the Day 1 DLC) has already been addressed by IT. 

Oh come on, you can't act like Starchild was good writing, or how Cerberus was handled, even Shepard, regardless of IT or not.

Cerberus is not the topic at hand in this thread. 

And Starchild appears to me to actually be brilliant writing in the context of IT. Horrible in the face-value context, yes, but brilliant with IT. 

[Arian Dynas]

Swimming Ferret wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Swimming Ferret wrote...

I'm a she by the way.

And no, I'm not a troll.

Disagreeing =/= troll.

I've just never been convinced by the Indoctrination Theory. I can't really think that Bioware would be foolish enough to not actually put it in the end game, what with the incredible backlash that's going on. They've made quite a few mistakes, such as day on DLC on disk and all those PR comments that make me way less inclined to listen to them. Also, they've already stated they will not change the end, and I don't understand how IT could be true if that is the case, since the IT rests on the fact the ends we get aren't the real end.

Except you're not disagreeing, youre posing your opinions as fact, which comes off as trying to correct our mistaken beliefs rather than disagreeing. 

And you obviously arent up to speed on what IT really is, based on what you're saying. Everything in that entire paragraph (sans the Day 1 DLC) has already been addressed by IT. 

Oh come on, you can't act like Starchild was good writing, or how Cerberus was handled, even Shepard, regardless of IT or not.

Actually, the thing is, if you look at the logic of the Task Manager (he lets you CRTL the Reapers, ALTer reality or DELete all synthetics, ergo, Task Manager), he's not even internally consistent, also considering the fact he flat out lies to your face.

[Arian Dynas]

HellishFiend wrote...

Swimming Ferret wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Swimming Ferret wrote...

I'm a she by the way.

And no, I'm not a troll.

Disagreeing =/= troll.

I've just never been convinced by the Indoctrination Theory. I can't really think that Bioware would be foolish enough to not actually put it in the end game, what with the incredible backlash that's going on. They've made quite a few mistakes, such as day on DLC on disk and all those PR comments that make me way less inclined to listen to them. Also, they've already stated they will not change the end, and I don't understand how IT could be true if that is the case, since the IT rests on the fact the ends we get aren't the real end.

Except you're not disagreeing, youre posing your opinions as fact, which comes off as trying to correct our mistaken beliefs rather than disagreeing. 

And you obviously arent up to speed on what IT really is, based on what you're saying. Everything in that entire paragraph (sans the Day 1 DLC) has already been addressed by IT. 

Oh come on, you can't act like Starchild was good writing, or how Cerberus was handled, even Shepard, regardless of IT or not.

Cerberus is not the topic at hand in this thread. 

And Starchild appears to me to actually be brilliant writing in the context of IT. Horrible in the face-value context, yes, but brilliant with IT. 

My friend, I appreciate you greatly as a person and fellow IDTer, but you are acting a bit thick.

Instead of just telling her "it's great because of IDT" why not tell her WHY?

[Swimming Ferret]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Swimming Ferret wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Swimming Ferret wrote...

I'm a she by the way.

And no, I'm not a troll.

Disagreeing =/= troll.

I've just never been convinced by the Indoctrination Theory. I can't really think that Bioware would be foolish enough to not actually put it in the end game, what with the incredible backlash that's going on. They've made quite a few mistakes, such as day on DLC on disk and all those PR comments that make me way less inclined to listen to them. Also, they've already stated they will not change the end, and I don't understand how IT could be true if that is the case, since the IT rests on the fact the ends we get aren't the real end.

Except you're not disagreeing, youre posing your opinions as fact, which comes off as trying to correct our mistaken beliefs rather than disagreeing. 

And you obviously arent up to speed on what IT really is, based on what you're saying. Everything in that entire paragraph (sans the Day 1 DLC) has already been addressed by IT. 

Oh come on, you can't act like Starchild was good writing, or how Cerberus was handled, even Shepard, regardless of IT or not.

Actually, the thing is, if you look at the logic of the Task Manager (he lets you CRTL the Reapers, ALTer reality or DELete all synthetics, ergo, Task Manager), he's not even internally consistent, also considering the fact he flat out lies to your face.

I was moreso mad by Shepard can't swear at him or give him a good kick or something.

[DJBare]

Swimming Ferret wrote...

DJBare wrote...

Swimming Ferret wrote...

I think people are just desperate to think ME3 didn't end on such a craptastic note. But some people are just really lousy writers, as ME3 proved.

Are they really lousy?, the same ones who wrote the tunchanka mission, the same ones who wrote mordins death, if we take the ending at face value then I'd call it lousy, but then the writing quality is not consistant with the rest of the story, it does not make sense.

You mean the same guys who turned Cerberus into an empire and gave us Tali's awesome face?

The very same, if IT turns out to be true, then the story is not over, TIM is still alive, Anderson is still alive, as for Tali's face, the fact that the only thing we see is a photo tells me one of two things, it was laziness or it was not real, the photo frame is blank when Shepard has no romance.

Oddly, that brings up another interesting point, Tali's face in the photo bares a slight resemblance to synthesis, thanks swimming ferret, you just gave me something else to think over.

[Arian Dynas]

Swimming Ferret wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Swimming Ferret wrote...

I'm a she by the way.

And no, I'm not a troll.

Disagreeing =/= troll.

I've just never been convinced by the Indoctrination Theory. I can't really think that Bioware would be foolish enough to not actually put it in the end game, what with the incredible backlash that's going on. They've made quite a few mistakes, such as day on DLC on disk and all those PR comments that make me way less inclined to listen to them. Also, they've already stated they will not change the end, and I don't understand how IT could be true if that is the case, since the IT rests on the fact the ends we get aren't the real end.

Except you're not disagreeing, youre posing your opinions as fact, which comes off as trying to correct our mistaken beliefs rather than disagreeing. 

And you obviously arent up to speed on what IT really is, based on what you're saying. Everything in that entire paragraph (sans the Day 1 DLC) has already been addressed by IT. 

Oh come on, you can't act like Starchild was good writing, or how Cerberus was handled, even Shepard, regardless of IT or not.

Actually, question, have you seen this; 
 ?

It plays if you have 5000+ EMS and chose destroy. Also, that concrete? Confirmed to be from London. Shepard never left Earth.

[Arian Dynas]

Swimming Ferret wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Swimming Ferret wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Swimming Ferret wrote...

I'm a she by the way.

And no, I'm not a troll.

Disagreeing =/= troll.

I've just never been convinced by the Indoctrination Theory. I can't really think that Bioware would be foolish enough to not actually put it in the end game, what with the incredible backlash that's going on. They've made quite a few mistakes, such as day on DLC on disk and all those PR comments that make me way less inclined to listen to them. Also, they've already stated they will not change the end, and I don't understand how IT could be true if that is the case, since the IT rests on the fact the ends we get aren't the real end.

Except you're not disagreeing, youre posing your opinions as fact, which comes off as trying to correct our mistaken beliefs rather than disagreeing. 

And you obviously arent up to speed on what IT really is, based on what you're saying. Everything in that entire paragraph (sans the Day 1 DLC) has already been addressed by IT. 

Oh come on, you can't act like Starchild was good writing, or how Cerberus was handled, even Shepard, regardless of IT or not.

Actually, the thing is, if you look at the logic of the Task Manager (he lets you CRTL the Reapers, ALTer reality or DELete all synthetics, ergo, Task Manager), he's not even internally consistent, also considering the fact he flat out lies to your face.

I was moreso mad by Shepard can't swear at him or give him a good kick or something.

" A Reaper's "suggestions" can manipulate victims into betraying friends, trusting enemies, or viewing the Reaper itself with superstitious awe.  "

Modifié par Arian Dynas, 11 mai 2012 - 12:54 .

[HellishFiend]

Arian Dynas wrote...

My friend, I appreciate you greatly as a person and fellow IDTer, but you are acting a bit thick.

Instead of just telling her "it's great because of IDT" why not tell her WHY?

Because if she wanted to know, she would ask.  Instead, she came in and insulted us, and now you're insulting me. This is why you should just let Garrus handle it. 

Modifié par HellishFiend, 11 mai 2012 - 12:54 .

[Salient Archer]

Supernovas
produces the same destructive power of 10^162 Gigaton of TNT
They full strength of the blast has a range of 10au depending on the size of the sun, but the remnant shockwave and radiation has a travel distance of around 50au with dissipating intensity over distance.

The Sol System Relay
For Relay orbiting distance the Sol Relay was approximately sitting 39au from our star.

The Mu Relay
It was estimated that the Mu Relay was much closer to the star that went supernova (possibly as close at 13au based on in-game start charts) but just to be lenient lets say it was still 39au from the blast center.

Due to It’s distance from the blast center it was hit with approximately only 10 Gigaton of TNT and as a result was not damaged but was flung out of it’s orbit. Although it could have been as high as 10^6 Gigaton.

The Citadel
As stated in Mass Effect Revelation The Citadel is made from the same materials as the Mass Relays. The presidium and each arm also contains pods that produce mass effect fields that protect the wards by keeping the outer skin separate from the rest of the structures, which protects it from intense external damage. It stands to reason the Citadel (with it’s arms closed) could also sustain external hits of a Gigaton or greater.

In essence; the Citadel would have to incur a massive internalized explosion, where it is most vulnerable. To be lenient lets place the explosion at no greater than 1 Gigaton (although could be as great as 10 Gigaton).

The Human Body
At 537 degrees celsius (1000 Fahrenheit) the human skin catches fire.
At 982 degrees celsius (1800 Fahrenheit) human bones can turn to ash
The blast that would have destroyed the Citadel would have produced temperatures in excess of 8,000,000 degrees celsius (14,400,032 Fahrenheit) vaporizing anyone inside the blast zone.

So what am I trying to say, well....


...but wait, how come after all that exploding and vaporizing we get treated to seeing this?...



Oh, I could think of at least one way it could all make sense...

Modifié par Salient Archer, 11 mai 2012 - 01:01 .

[Arian Dynas]

HellishFiend wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

My friend, I appreciate you greatly as a person and fellow IDTer, but you are acting a bit thick.

Instead of just telling her "it's great because of IDT" why not tell her WHY?

Because if she wanted to know, she would ask.  Instead, she came in and insulted us, and now you're insulting me. This is why you should just let Garrus handle it. 

I am not insulting you. If I were, you would know it.

Modifié par Arian Dynas, 11 mai 2012 - 12:55 .

[HyperGlass]

So if I'm reading this right: The Conduit run was basicly a trap by Harbinger to knock out Shepard and try to indoctrinate him/her via all that crazy stuff in hopes that they will wake up indoctrinated, go to the Conduit and disable the Crucible (most likely being killed in the process).
Rather odd trap but I do see him not leaving in a hurry and actully staying to fend of remaining fighters while Shep is fighting indoctrination. Also explains why he left the beam on in the end.

[HellishFiend]

Arian Dynas wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

My friend, I appreciate you greatly as a person and fellow IDTer, but you are acting a bit thick.

Instead of just telling her "it's great because of IDT" why not tell her WHY?

Because if she wanted to know, she would ask.  Instead, she came in and insulted us, and now you're insulting me. This is why you should just let Garrus handle it. 

I am not insulting you. If I were, you would know it.

*facepalm*

I should go. 

[Arian Dynas]

HyperGlass wrote...

So if I'm reading this right: The Conduit run was basicly a trap by Harbinger to knock out Shepard and try to indoctrinate him/her via all that crazy stuff in hopes that they will wake up indoctrinated, go to the Conduit and disable the Crucible (most likely being killed in the process).
Rather odd trap but I do see him not leaving in a hurry and actully staying to fend of remaining fighters while Shep is fighting indoctrination. Also explains why he left the beam on in the end.

Amongst MAAAAAAAAAAAANY other things, come and sit a while, my friend.

[Swimming Ferret]

HellishFiend wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

My friend, I appreciate you greatly as a person and fellow IDTer, but you are acting a bit thick.

Instead of just telling her "it's great because of IDT" why not tell her WHY?

Because if she wanted to know, she would ask.  Instead, she came in and insulted us, and now you're insulting me. This is why you should just let Garrus handle it. 

I didn't insult you. If I came by and called you a bunch of delusional morons, that would be an insult. I never said anything of the sort, I just said I don't think it's true and wrote some reasons why I think that.

This is why I don't like talking to IT supports. You act as if disagreeing with you means I smacked your mother.

[Salient Archer]

*whistle*

Yeowch. Though I'm beginning to feel like a broken record when I remind you, you're forgetting pressure waves.

Also, mass effect bubbles under the Citadel's skin? Kinda like air baffles? Cool.

I'm sorry , I really tried to include them but every which way I tried to work them in I couldn't find the math to make it happen... yet.

As for the Citadel Skin, it has several layers that apparently the Keepers operate within, basically like a giant sandwich with mass effect fields for filler.

Modifié par Salient Archer, 11 mai 2012 - 01:03 .

[HyperGlass]

Arian Dynas wrote...

HyperGlass wrote...

So if I'm reading this right: The Conduit run was basicly a trap by Harbinger to knock out Shepard and try to indoctrinate him/her via all that crazy stuff in hopes that they will wake up indoctrinated, go to the Conduit and disable the Crucible (most likely being killed in the process).
Rather odd trap but I do see him not leaving in a hurry and actully staying to fend of remaining fighters while Shep is fighting indoctrination. Also explains why he left the beam on in the end.

Amongst MAAAAAAAAAAAANY other things, come and sit a while, my friend.

I feel welcomed as this is my first time here:lol:
So according to the Twitter post by Jessica? I think. She says Shep is on the Citadel and did not go through re-entry. The dream ended? Dying in dreams does wake you up into the matrix....Oh boy.

[DirtyPhoenix]

HellishFiend wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

My friend, I appreciate you greatly as a person and fellow IDTer, but you are acting a bit thick.

Instead of just telling her "it's great because of IDT" why not tell her WHY?

Because if she wanted to know, she would ask.  Instead, she came in and insulted us, and now you're insulting me. This is why you should just let Garrus handle it. 

I am not insulting you. If I were, you would know it.

*facepalm*

I should go. 

I'll be here.

XD was that correct?

[HellishFiend]

Arian Dynas wrote...

HyperGlass wrote...

So if I'm reading this right: The Conduit run was basicly a trap by Harbinger to knock out Shepard and try to indoctrinate him/her via all that crazy stuff in hopes that they will wake up indoctrinated, go to the Conduit and disable the Crucible (most likely being killed in the process).
Rather odd trap but I do see him not leaving in a hurry and actully staying to fend of remaining fighters while Shep is fighting indoctrination. Also explains why he left the beam on in the end.

Amongst MAAAAAAAAAAAANY other things, come and sit a while, my friend.

You see, Arian? THIS is the way people post when they have a genuine interest in learning more about IT. Not when they come in and use words like "desperate" and "failed". You're the one acting thick, in my opinion. As far as I'm concerned, people need to check their negative attitude at the door if they want us to help them out with information. Nothing productive or good ever comes from bringing a negative attitude into this thread. You of all people should know that. 

[SS2Dante]

HyperGlass wrote...

So if I'm reading this right: The Conduit run was basicly a trap by Harbinger to knock out Shepard and try to indoctrinate him/her via all that crazy stuff in hopes that they will wake up indoctrinated, go to the Conduit and disable the Crucible (most likely being killed in the process).
Rather odd trap but I do see him not leaving in a hurry and actully staying to fend of remaining fighters while Shep is fighting indoctrination. Also explains why he left the beam on in the end.

I..you...what? 

Um, my opinion (and the general opinion I thin) is that throughout the whole of 3 your mind has begun to crack from indoctrination, so when you're blasted by Harbingers beam at the Crucible and knocked out, the rest of the game is simply a visualisation of the indoctrination process and the choice Shepard has (to give in or fight). I'm not really sure that it was a trap designed to send Shep up to the conduit or anything. Possible, I suppose, but remember that the Crucible hasn't actually been docked in the Citadel at this point, so..:S

[Arian Dynas]

Swimming Ferret wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

My friend, I appreciate you greatly as a person and fellow IDTer, but you are acting a bit thick.

Instead of just telling her "it's great because of IDT" why not tell her WHY?

Because if she wanted to know, she would ask.  Instead, she came in and insulted us, and now you're insulting me. This is why you should just let Garrus handle it. 

I didn't insult you. If I came by and called you a bunch of delusional morons, that would be an insult. I never said anything of the sort, I just said I don't think it's true and wrote some reasons why I think that.

This is why I don't like talking to IT supports. You act as if disagreeing with you means I smacked your mother.

Don't take it personally, some of us have just been rubbed VERY raw by legitimate trolls. Hellish in paticular here is not fond of seeing people interact with them. I personally think you can be salvaged. We do have a number of people whom come here with actual logic (or in some cases, something approximating it) to shoot down our theories, and we keep a fairly cordial relationship with them.

[HellishFiend]

Swimming Ferret wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

My friend, I appreciate you greatly as a person and fellow IDTer, but you are acting a bit thick.

Instead of just telling her "it's great because of IDT" why not tell her WHY?

Because if she wanted to know, she would ask.  Instead, she came in and insulted us, and now you're insulting me. This is why you should just let Garrus handle it. 

I didn't insult you. If I came by and called you a bunch of delusional morons, that would be an insult. I never said anything of the sort, I just said I don't think it's true and wrote some reasons why I think that.

This is why I don't like talking to IT supports. You act as if disagreeing with you means I smacked your mother.

See HyperGlass's posts for an example for how to get off on the right foot. 

You came in with "bioware failed lol" and "you guys are desperate lol". Didnt ask a question. Didnt contribute to the thread. And you say you dont like talking to us?