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balance5050 wrote...

*snip*

Casey Hudson ---

"What we’re doing with Mass Effect 3 that’s a little bit different than what we’ve done before is exploring the idea of getting the player to understand and feel what Commander Shepard is experiencing versus just reacting to other characters." 



"We end up exploring some spaces that maybe have never been done before. Because interactive storytelling is still kind of new, there are neat things to try. One of the things we’re trying in Mass Effect 3 is the idea that we can let you feel something that is part of that character’s experience versus strictly getting you to react to things that you see and experience. We’re trying to tell a little bit of the story Shepard would feel and seeing if the player feels that as well." 



http://www.gameinfor...PostPageIndex=1 


Also a quote from it:

With Mass Effect 2, you had a lot of well-done downloadable
content that really tied in to the story and helped build toward the
next game. With Mass Effect 3 being an end of the story arc, is your
approach to DLC more multiplayer focused or more side stories? How do
you see it fitting into the game?



There’s some multiplayer stuff, but we’re also planning some DLC on
the single-player side, because it did really good in Mass Effect 2.
There’s a reason why we can add stories to what’s there. The
adventure-type DLC will happen in the time frame of Mass Effect 3,
within your Mass Effect 3 storyline. It’s similar to how with Mass
Effect 2, if you had a saved game from anywhere inside the game, you
could go on to the DLC. We have a pretty neat concept for how it’s going
to work.


Add that to Jesse Houston's Comic Con 2011 interview about how "DLC will make a great sense within the war story."

What level of 'special' does a DLC need to be incorparated into a story? Either it lets you start whereever you want, or you have to get to a certain point in the story.
But does it make sense to 'force' the player into replaying the whole game up to that point?
From a producer's point of view you certainly cannot expect your players to have a savegame ready for every mission. So the only possibility is to force every player to converge into a story point from where on to set the DLC to act in for everyone.

Or is there a hole in my logic?

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Wha...we've already answered that. Because he KNOWS what he should be hearing. He's been on the Normandy for ages by this point, not to mention he's been on it, and many other alliance vessels, before. You don't comment on noises that are normal or expected. Therefore this noise is unusual, and he clearly think's it's in his head ("must just be me", or whatever he says).



" Because he KNOWS what he should be hearing"


Does he, now? It's just an assumption.

 "He's been on the Normandy for ages by this point,"

Then he would be hearing the reaper tech for ages. Why wouls he ask when Shepard is aboard, only?

You don't comment on noises that are normal or expected. Therefore this noise is unusual, and he clearly think's it's in his head

That's the funny part. 


...no, that's common sense. Have you ever been on a ship, or aeroplane?

I don't understand your second point.

It's not phrased as funny, and I'd never in a million years have considered that it ws a joke. Nor would most people. Honestly I find "it was an accident" a more likely explanation than "it's a joke".


I consider that as a "joke", specially considering the character himself. James provides a lot of funny sequences in conversations.

My second point was: if James served in the Normandy for ages, he's been hearing the reaper tech for ages, since the first time he boarded the ship actually. (Note: he can ask about the hum the first time ever you talk to him in the shuttle deck) Why would he think it is abnormal?

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HyperGlass wrote...

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What was the reponse to Jessica's twitter post saying Shep was on the Citadel and re-entry didn't occure?
Can I guess it was because that was the end of the dream?


SHe corrected herself later and said it was her belief, so it shouldn't be confirmation or anything.

That's a relief. You can't wake up in an area which was blown apart and being burned in the process. Seriously: why did Shepard walk towards the explosion in the destroy ending it is unessisary!


A. I don't think he was expecting to live anyway

B. He looks like a BAUS struttin' like that.

C. Notice how he stop's limping?

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C. Notice how he stop's limping?

He runs in the Synthesis ending.

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OK, I'm going to settle a point that was brought up a while ago. When SubAstris was here talking about Shepard's resurrection, one point that frequently came up was that he said that there was no way Shepard's brain survived. Well, I'm on Cronos Station, and I just found a video where one of the scientists for Project Lazarus says that Shepard's brain was protected by his helmet. So there you have it, his brain was fine, and his helmet did the work. But Shepard did not have a helmet on on the Citadel before he fell back to Earth. So, basically, score one for IT.


I thought everyone knew this, before the last mission Shepard is even looking at his helmet and says to Liara something like "Checking it for cracks", it was an allusion to his helmet basically saving his brain. They priming the long time fans to start making connections.


Yeah, I just figured I should post this since Sub was making such a big deal out of it before.  Someone didn't watch the game closely enough. :whistle:


See I don't think the fact that how Shepard survived is being questioned. It's that the probability of his survival(meaning his in tact brain) were low to impossible. The same probability exists here, where Shepard could be aboard a damaged Citadel and could have survived the explosion.

What bothers some people, including myself, is that one near impossibility is more acceptable than another near impossibility in a video game.

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balance5050 wrote...

SolidisusSnake1 wrote...

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I made a thread yesterday that quickly turned ugly but I'll state it again Mac Walters (Lead Writer) has a Degree in Psychology.

So the whole Shepard is actually exploring his own mind and talking to parts of his sub-conscience does have some weight to it when you consider that one fact. I still dont believe in the theory but the fact is interesting nonetheless.


That is interesting.  And at least you didn't come in here and start bashing us randomly like certain others. <_<  Also, I think this would at least add some credence to IT since Mac would probably know about most of this stuff thanks to the aforementioned degree.


Yeah I mean its intresting to me but really just because he has the degree doesnt mean he is going to shoe horn it into the game. A lot of writers of psychology degrees or even law degrees but that doesnt mean they are going to force those concepts into their writing. But like I said it is still interesting nonetheless.

As far as I'm concerned I dont believe in IT simply because we would have heard way eariler on hints from the devs and writers that the ending was "fake", rather than taking the immense amount of heat and loss of sales, etc.

The only thing that still peaks my interest is:
-Oily Shadows
-Fear filled voices in the dreams
-Gun shot to the gut (though I have an alternate explantion for that)
-Anderson telling us not to listen to TIM (Why would we ever listen to him in the first place?)
-Shepard lives scene


Casey Hudson ---

"What we’re doing with Mass Effect 3 that’s a little bit different than what we’ve done before is exploring the idea of getting the player to understand and feel what Commander Shepard is experiencing versus just reacting to other characters." 


"We end up exploring some spaces that maybe have never been done before. Because interactive storytelling is still kind of new, there are neat things to try. One of the things we’re trying in Mass Effect 3 is the idea that we can let you feel something that is part of that character’s experience versus strictly getting you to react to things that you see and experience. We’re trying to tell a little bit of the story Shepard would feel and seeing if the player feels that as well." 



http://www.gameinfor...PostPageIndex=1 


He's simply talking about the fact that in ME3 Shepard has more emotion which you can explore rather than being a blank slate that simply responded like in past games.


He's talking about emotion "that you feel" (you as in the player) not the emotion that Shepard is expessing in reaction to the characters around him. 

Shepard has always acted with emotion IMO....


It's more interesting that he's emphasising the interactivity of the story, and the fact that this can be used to do new things with empathy. The literal story is not new, and doesn't allow you to experience Sheps emotions, just observe them. IT does.

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Anyone else notice that idle c-sec Taurin officers scratch their arses every now and then?


My ass would probably be itchy too if I wore heavy combat armor 24/7.




You know I'm not certain Turians have the same physiology as humans so it may be he is actually scratching his testicles. 

Just leaving that mental image out there :devil:

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EpyonX3 wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

OK, I'm going to settle a point that was brought up a while ago. When SubAstris was here talking about Shepard's resurrection, one point that frequently came up was that he said that there was no way Shepard's brain survived. Well, I'm on Cronos Station, and I just found a video where one of the scientists for Project Lazarus says that Shepard's brain was protected by his helmet. So there you have it, his brain was fine, and his helmet did the work. But Shepard did not have a helmet on on the Citadel before he fell back to Earth. So, basically, score one for IT.


I thought everyone knew this, before the last mission Shepard is even looking at his helmet and says to Liara something like "Checking it for cracks", it was an allusion to his helmet basically saving his brain. They priming the long time fans to start making connections.


Yeah, I just figured I should post this since Sub was making such a big deal out of it before.  Someone didn't watch the game closely enough. :whistle:


See I don't think the fact that how Shepard survived is being questioned. It's that the probability of his survival(meaning his in tact brain) were low to impossible. The same probability exists here, where Shepard could be aboard a damaged Citadel and could have survived the explosion.

What bothers some people, including myself, is that one near impossibility is more acceptable than another near impossibility in a video game.



An impossibility!? in a video game!? NEVER!

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Daryslash wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

Daryslash wrote...

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Wha...we've already answered that. Because he KNOWS what he should be hearing. He's been on the Normandy for ages by this point, not to mention he's been on it, and many other alliance vessels, before. You don't comment on noises that are normal or expected. Therefore this noise is unusual, and he clearly think's it's in his head ("must just be me", or whatever he says).



" Because he KNOWS what he should be hearing"


Does he, now? It's just an assumption.

 "He's been on the Normandy for ages by this point,"

Then he would be hearing the reaper tech for ages. Why wouls he ask when Shepard is aboard, only?

You don't comment on noises that are normal or expected. Therefore this noise is unusual, and he clearly think's it's in his head

That's the funny part. 


...no, that's common sense. Have you ever been on a ship, or aeroplane?

I don't understand your second point.

It's not phrased as funny, and I'd never in a million years have considered that it ws a joke. Nor would most people. Honestly I find "it was an accident" a more likely explanation than "it's a joke".


I consider that as a "joke", specially considering the character himself. James provides a lot of funny sequences in conversations.

My second point was: if James served in the Normandy for ages, he's been hearing the reaper tech for ages, since the first time he boarded the ship actually. (Note: he can ask about the hum the first time ever you talk to him in the shuttle deck) Why would he think it is abnormal?


Okay - stupid question:  Has Vega ever actually been on the Normandy before the escape from Earth?  I seriously can't remember.  I know that he has been on a bunch of ships and commanded troops on other planets - so he obviously had to get to those planets on Alliance ships, but had he been on the Normandy before the scenes in ME3?

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SS2Dante wrote...

Tirian Thorn wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

ExtendedCut wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Anyone else notice that idle c-sec Taurin officers scratch their arses every now and then?


My ass would probably be itchy too if I wore heavy combat armor 24/7.




I'm Garrus Vakarian and this is my rectum!


I'm Garrus' complete lack of surprise. 


And I am Jacks delight at the reference.


"Steak, Liara. I think about Steak. I F**cking love Steak!"

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Dwailing wrote...

OK, I'm going to settle a point that was brought up a while ago. When SubAstris was here talking about Shepard's resurrection, one point that frequently came up was that he said that there was no way Shepard's brain survived. Well, I'm on Cronos Station, and I just found a video where one of the scientists for Project Lazarus says that Shepard's brain was protected by his helmet. So there you have it, his brain was fine, and his helmet did the work. But Shepard did not have a helmet on on the Citadel before he fell back to Earth. So, basically, score one for IT.


Another point I'd like to add was an "inconsitancy" mentioned by everyone's favorite critic, smudboy, regarding that helmet. That dialogue mentions that Shepard's helmet kept his/her brain intact, yet the Shadow Broker was the one who recovered Shepard's body and you find an N7 helmet on the planet surface when you return. So apparently according to him that means that Cerberus couldn't possibly know that the helmet kept his brain intact. Ergo, "plothole".

Better yet, is it really that much of a stretch to imagine that maybe JUST MAYBE, Shepard has a spare?

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I consider that as a "joke", specially considering the character himself. James provides a lot of funny sequences in conversations.

My second point was: if James served in the Normandy for ages, he's been hearing the reaper tech for ages, since the first time he boarded the ship actually. (Note: he can ask about the hum the first time ever you talk to him in the shuttle deck) Why would he think it is abnormal?


Exactly, he's funny, but the line isn't funny.

I think it's time we moved on from this cause you don't seem to be able to interpret it any way other than "It was a joke"

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balance5050 wrote...

HyperGlass wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

HyperGlass wrote...

What was the reponse to Jessica's twitter post saying Shep was on the Citadel and re-entry didn't occure?
Can I guess it was because that was the end of the dream?


SHe corrected herself later and said it was her belief, so it shouldn't be confirmation or anything.

That's a relief. You can't wake up in an area which was blown apart and being burned in the process. Seriously: why did Shepard walk towards the explosion in the destroy ending it is unessisary!


A. I don't think he was expecting to live anyway

B. He looks like a BAUS struttin' like that.

C. Notice how he stop's limping?


He stops limping in Synthesis too.

By the way, synthesis. We've all agreed that it's the worst?

I'm sorry, but I can't believe that when you do Synthesis you actually fall. Literally fall. It's amazing :P

IF IT is true, I can guarantee you a LOT of people are going to be replaying the game and thinking "How did they get away with this!?" :P

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After I finished another playthrough last night, I had noticed that when the Citadel arms open, pieces of debris float into the area where the control panel is. If so, space is a huge vacuum, so if it was real, Shepard, Anderson and the Illusive Man would have been sucked out into Earth's orbit and probably pulled apart limb by limb as soon as those arms opened. There isn't a barrier protecting them.

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ExtendedCut wrote...

Daryslash wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

Daryslash wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

Wha...we've already answered that. Because he KNOWS what he should be hearing. He's been on the Normandy for ages by this point, not to mention he's been on it, and many other alliance vessels, before. You don't comment on noises that are normal or expected. Therefore this noise is unusual, and he clearly think's it's in his head ("must just be me", or whatever he says).



" Because he KNOWS what he should be hearing"


Does he, now? It's just an assumption.

 "He's been on the Normandy for ages by this point,"

Then he would be hearing the reaper tech for ages. Why wouls he ask when Shepard is aboard, only?

You don't comment on noises that are normal or expected. Therefore this noise is unusual, and he clearly think's it's in his head

That's the funny part. 


...no, that's common sense. Have you ever been on a ship, or aeroplane?

I don't understand your second point.

It's not phrased as funny, and I'd never in a million years have considered that it ws a joke. Nor would most people. Honestly I find "it was an accident" a more likely explanation than "it's a joke".


I consider that as a "joke", specially considering the character himself. James provides a lot of funny sequences in conversations.

My second point was: if James served in the Normandy for ages, he's been hearing the reaper tech for ages, since the first time he boarded the ship actually. (Note: he can ask about the hum the first time ever you talk to him in the shuttle deck) Why would he think it is abnormal?


Okay - stupid question:  Has Vega ever actually been on the Normandy before the escape from Earth?  I seriously can't remember.  I know that he has been on a bunch of ships and commanded troops on other planets - so he obviously had to get to those planets on Alliance ships, but had he been on the Normandy before the scenes in ME3?



I've been asking myself this question, but people seemed too convinced he was in the Normandy before, so...

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Rosewind wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

Tirian Thorn wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

ExtendedCut wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Anyone else notice that idle c-sec Taurin officers scratch their arses every now and then?


My ass would probably be itchy too if I wore heavy combat armor 24/7.




I'm Garrus Vakarian and this is my rectum!


I'm Garrus' complete lack of surprise. 


And I am Jacks delight at the reference.


"Steak, Liara. I think about Steak. I F**cking love Steak!"


"Shepard, are you ready to be a woman?"

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SS2Dante wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

OK, I'm going to settle a point that was brought up a while ago. When SubAstris was here talking about Shepard's resurrection, one point that frequently came up was that he said that there was no way Shepard's brain survived. Well, I'm on Cronos Station, and I just found a video where one of the scientists for Project Lazarus says that Shepard's brain was protected by his helmet. So there you have it, his brain was fine, and his helmet did the work. But Shepard did not have a helmet on on the Citadel before he fell back to Earth. So, basically, score one for IT.


I thought everyone knew this, before the last mission Shepard is even looking at his helmet and says to Liara something like "Checking it for cracks", it was an allusion to his helmet basically saving his brain. They priming the long time fans to start making connections.


Yeah, I just figured I should post this since Sub was making such a big deal out of it before.  Someone didn't watch the game closely enough. :whistle:


See I don't think the fact that how Shepard survived is being questioned. It's that the probability of his survival(meaning his in tact brain) were low to impossible. The same probability exists here, where Shepard could be aboard a damaged Citadel and could have survived the explosion.

What bothers some people, including myself, is that one near impossibility is more acceptable than another near impossibility in a video game.



An impossibility!? in a video game!? NEVER!


No, the probabilities are worlds apart man. Even with full armor and a helmet, he dies and only his brain was intact due to his space age helmet.

He was in his undies at the end so if the explosion didnt get him, the atmosphere would. The atmosheere is thicker on Earth and lives instead of becoming "bones and meat". No, the ending was more like a fourth dream sequence and he's going to wake up I think.

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SS2Dante wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

OK, I'm going to settle a point that was brought up a while ago. When SubAstris was here talking about Shepard's resurrection, one point that frequently came up was that he said that there was no way Shepard's brain survived. Well, I'm on Cronos Station, and I just found a video where one of the scientists for Project Lazarus says that Shepard's brain was protected by his helmet. So there you have it, his brain was fine, and his helmet did the work. But Shepard did not have a helmet on on the Citadel before he fell back to Earth. So, basically, score one for IT.


I thought everyone knew this, before the last mission Shepard is even looking at his helmet and says to Liara something like "Checking it for cracks", it was an allusion to his helmet basically saving his brain. They priming the long time fans to start making connections.


Yeah, I just figured I should post this since Sub was making such a big deal out of it before.  Someone didn't watch the game closely enough. :whistle:


See I don't think the fact that how Shepard survived is being questioned. It's that the probability of his survival(meaning his in tact brain) were low to impossible. The same probability exists here, where Shepard could be aboard a damaged Citadel and could have survived the explosion.

What bothers some people, including myself, is that one near impossibility is more acceptable than another near impossibility in a video game.



An impossibility!? in a video game!? NEVER!


A near impossibility...:P

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ExtendedCut wrote...

Daryslash wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

Daryslash wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

Wha...we've already answered that. Because he KNOWS what he should be hearing. He's been on the Normandy for ages by this point, not to mention he's been on it, and many other alliance vessels, before. You don't comment on noises that are normal or expected. Therefore this noise is unusual, and he clearly think's it's in his head ("must just be me", or whatever he says).



" Because he KNOWS what he should be hearing"


Does he, now? It's just an assumption.

 "He's been on the Normandy for ages by this point,"

Then he would be hearing the reaper tech for ages. Why wouls he ask when Shepard is aboard, only?

You don't comment on noises that are normal or expected. Therefore this noise is unusual, and he clearly think's it's in his head

That's the funny part. 


...no, that's common sense. Have you ever been on a ship, or aeroplane?

I don't understand your second point.

It's not phrased as funny, and I'd never in a million years have considered that it ws a joke. Nor would most people. Honestly I find "it was an accident" a more likely explanation than "it's a joke".


I consider that as a "joke", specially considering the character himself. James provides a lot of funny sequences in conversations.

My second point was: if James served in the Normandy for ages, he's been hearing the reaper tech for ages, since the first time he boarded the ship actually. (Note: he can ask about the hum the first time ever you talk to him in the shuttle deck) Why would he think it is abnormal?


Okay - stupid question:  Has Vega ever actually been on the Normandy before the escape from Earth?  I seriously can't remember.  I know that he has been on a bunch of ships and commanded troops on other planets - so he obviously had to get to those planets on Alliance ships, but had he been on the Normandy before the scenes in ME3?



Oh, woops, my bad. Someone said he was in the other media, but I guess not, having actually looked.

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EpyonX3 wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

Tirian Thorn wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

ExtendedCut wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Anyone else notice that idle c-sec Taurin officers scratch their arses every now and then?


My ass would probably be itchy too if I wore heavy combat armor 24/7.




I'm Garrus Vakarian and this is my rectum!


I'm Garrus' complete lack of surprise. 


And I am Jacks delight at the reference.


"Steak, Liara. I think about Steak. I F**cking love Steak!"


"Shepard, are you ready to be a woman?"



NOOOOO...

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Daryslash wrote...

ExtendedCut wrote...

Daryslash wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

Daryslash wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

Wha...we've already answered that. Because he KNOWS what he should be hearing. He's been on the Normandy for ages by this point, not to mention he's been on it, and many other alliance vessels, before. You don't comment on noises that are normal or expected. Therefore this noise is unusual, and he clearly think's it's in his head ("must just be me", or whatever he says).



" Because he KNOWS what he should be hearing"


Does he, now? It's just an assumption.

 "He's been on the Normandy for ages by this point,"

Then he would be hearing the reaper tech for ages. Why wouls he ask when Shepard is aboard, only?

You don't comment on noises that are normal or expected. Therefore this noise is unusual, and he clearly think's it's in his head

That's the funny part. 


...no, that's common sense. Have you ever been on a ship, or aeroplane?

I don't understand your second point.

It's not phrased as funny, and I'd never in a million years have considered that it ws a joke. Nor would most people. Honestly I find "it was an accident" a more likely explanation than "it's a joke".


I consider that as a "joke", specially considering the character himself. James provides a lot of funny sequences in conversations.

My second point was: if James served in the Normandy for ages, he's been hearing the reaper tech for ages, since the first time he boarded the ship actually. (Note: he can ask about the hum the first time ever you talk to him in the shuttle deck) Why would he think it is abnormal?


Okay - stupid question:  Has Vega ever actually been on the Normandy before the escape from Earth?  I seriously can't remember.  I know that he has been on a bunch of ships and commanded troops on other planets - so he obviously had to get to those planets on Alliance ships, but had he been on the Normandy before the scenes in ME3?



I've been asking myself this question, but people seemed too convinced he was in the Normandy before, so...


Well, Anderson recruited him to act as Shepard's guard on the Normandy on the way to Earth for the trial.  See here for more info: 
http://masseffect.wi...ect:_Conviction 

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After I finished another playthrough last night, I had noticed that when the Citadel arms open, pieces of debris float into the area where the control panel is. If so, space is a huge vacuum, so if it was real, Shepard, Anderson and the Illusive Man would have been sucked out into Earth's orbit and probably pulled apart limb by limb as soon as those arms opened. There isn't a barrier protecting them.


You know, I noticed that today :P Thought it was odd but just kinda shrugged it off :P

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I've been asking myself this question, but people seemed too convinced he was in the Normandy before, so...


I only ask because it would seem like the thought that he's hearing some insidious activity of some piece of on-board Reaper tech would make more sense if he is completely new aboard the Normandy.  In other words, Shepard, Joker, Liara, etc, would be less likely to notice the reaper tech "hum" if they are already succumbing to the indoc process by having been onboard before.

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balance5050 wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

OK, I'm going to settle a point that was brought up a while ago. When SubAstris was here talking about Shepard's resurrection, one point that frequently came up was that he said that there was no way Shepard's brain survived. Well, I'm on Cronos Station, and I just found a video where one of the scientists for Project Lazarus says that Shepard's brain was protected by his helmet. So there you have it, his brain was fine, and his helmet did the work. But Shepard did not have a helmet on on the Citadel before he fell back to Earth. So, basically, score one for IT.


I thought everyone knew this, before the last mission Shepard is even looking at his helmet and says to Liara something like "Checking it for cracks", it was an allusion to his helmet basically saving his brain. They priming the long time fans to start making connections.


Yeah, I just figured I should post this since Sub was making such a big deal out of it before.  Someone didn't watch the game closely enough. :whistle:


See I don't think the fact that how Shepard survived is being questioned. It's that the probability of his survival(meaning his in tact brain) were low to impossible. The same probability exists here, where Shepard could be aboard a damaged Citadel and could have survived the explosion.

What bothers some people, including myself, is that one near impossibility is more acceptable than another near impossibility in a video game.



An impossibility!? in a video game!? NEVER!


No, the probabilities are worlds apart man. Even with full armor and a helmet, he dies and only his brain was intact due to his space age helmet.

He was in his undies so if the explosion didnt get him, the atmosphere would.


The thing is that that area may have been protected by a kinetic barrier, the same barriers that are claimed to help him survive re-entry. Also, there's no reaso why the Citadel would fall from orbit, espscially so rapidly. so the same barries that protected him could still be active.

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Anyone else notice that idle c-sec Taurin officers scratch their arses every now and then?


My ass would probably be itchy too if I wore heavy combat armor 24/7.




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