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TSA_383 wrote...

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So, further post-EC dlc or an indication of the scale of the extended cut?


That's an odd answer.

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TSA_383 wrote...

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So, further post-EC dlc or an indication of the scale of the extended cut?


I'd say that Omega is probably one of several "en medias res" DLC's that we'll get, if the myriad of unexplorable star systems in the game now are any indication. What I'm really hoping is that since xbox dlc is usually limited to 2gb per package (heresay), the EC DLC will be delivered is several packages. If I saw that, it would be epic win time.

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EpyonX3 wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

https://twitter.com/...463386419535872
So, further post-EC dlc or an indication of the scale of the extended cut?


That's an odd answer.

Nope, it's not. It just says he don't have to worry as there are enough DLCs coming.

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DJBare wrote...

While I'm here, does anyone else get this in their game?, Hackett seems to forget the word "citadel"
www.youtube.com/watch

Happened sometimes in my first playthrough, never happened after the patch that also fixed the face import stuff.


This happened to me yesterday, with the patch. :(

Still haven't tried to re-import my face again, since I went through great pains using a data extracter to get my ME1 face code.

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EpyonX3 wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

https://twitter.com/...463386419535872
So, further post-EC dlc or an indication of the scale of the extended cut?


That's an odd answer.



Lots of speculation!
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EpyonX3 wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

https://twitter.com/...463386419535872
So, further post-EC dlc or an indication of the scale of the extended cut?


That's an odd answer.


It says nothing of post ending vs. pre-ending or whether it's in referrance to the EC. He could easily be referring to Take back Omega, take back Illium, or whatever else. That was the point of the DLC ad at the end of the game anyway.

I've yet to see anything of substance on Twitter.

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Hawk227 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

https://twitter.com/...463386419535872
So, further post-EC dlc or an indication of the scale of the extended cut?


That's an odd answer.


It says nothing of post ending vs. pre-ending or whether it's in referrance to the EC. He could easily be referring to Take back Omega, take back Illium, or whatever else. That was the point of the DLC ad at the end of the game anyway.

I've yet to see anything of substance on Twitter.


Regardless of if it has anything to do with EC, I'm still anxious to see what they do with other DLC. Finishing my second playthrough yesterday wasn't depressing at all... in fact it made me resolve to play through the game all over again.... maybe this time on insanity!

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Unschuld wrote...

Hawk227 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

https://twitter.com/...463386419535872
So, further post-EC dlc or an indication of the scale of the extended cut?


That's an odd answer.


It says nothing of post ending vs. pre-ending or whether it's in referrance to the EC. He could easily be referring to Take back Omega, take back Illium, or whatever else. That was the point of the DLC ad at the end of the game anyway.

I've yet to see anything of substance on Twitter.


Regardless of if it has anything to do with EC, I'm still anxious to see what they do with other DLC. Finishing my second playthrough yesterday wasn't depressing at all... in fact it made me resolve to play through the game all over again.... maybe this time on insanity!


Pah, don't want to brag - there is none, since it's really easy - but Hardcore on my first playthrough was a lot tougher than my second one on Insanity. Don't worry!

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 11 mai 2012 - 09:00 .


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MaximizedAction wrote...

Unschuld wrote...

Hawk227 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

https://twitter.com/...463386419535872
So, further post-EC dlc or an indication of the scale of the extended cut?


That's an odd answer.


It says nothing of post ending vs. pre-ending or whether it's in referrance to the EC. He could easily be referring to Take back Omega, take back Illium, or whatever else. That was the point of the DLC ad at the end of the game anyway.

I've yet to see anything of substance on Twitter.


Regardless of if it has anything to do with EC, I'm still anxious to see what they do with other DLC. Finishing my second playthrough yesterday wasn't depressing at all... in fact it made me resolve to play through the game all over again.... maybe this time on insanity!


Pah, don't want to brag - there is none, since it's really easy - but Hardcore on my first playthrough was a lot tougher than my second one on Insanity. Don't worry!



Hmm... I really enjoyed insanity with my infiltrator. It was pretty challenging, IMO.

But then again, I don't think I'm the best ME gamer out there, so I guess it just varies on how good you are with the gameplay aspect of the game.

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Unschuld wrote...


Regardless of if it has anything to do with EC, I'm still anxious to see what they do with other DLC. Finishing my second playthrough yesterday wasn't depressing at all... in fact it made me resolve to play through the game all over again.... maybe this time on insanity!


I'm enjoying my 3rd playthrough now (1st in more than a month), looking at the game through the lens of IT. But if the EC comes out, and they debunk IT. I'm not paying for any DLC, no matter how awesome it looks.

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estebanus wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...


Pah, don't want to brag - there is none, since it's really easy - but Hardcore on my first playthrough was a lot tougher than my second one on Insanity. Don't worry!



Hmm... I really enjoyed insanity with my infiltrator. It was pretty challenging, IMO.

But then again, I don't think I'm the best ME gamer out there, so I guess it just varies on how good you are with the gameplay aspect of the game.


I'm pretty decent, no problem there, but I play as a soldier. My problem is that I find it annoying that I'm shooting someone IN THE FACE, with shields down, and them not dying in one hit. That really kills the immersion for me. The Benezia fight in ME1 was the final straw for me regarding insanity, though to be fair that was a virgin playthough and probably made it a lot harder than it could have been.

*edit: I forgot, that was a virgin hardcore playthrough to unlock insanity, not insanity itself.

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Hawk227 wrote...

Unschuld wrote...


Regardless of if it has anything to do with EC, I'm still anxious to see what they do with other DLC. Finishing my second playthrough yesterday wasn't depressing at all... in fact it made me resolve to play through the game all over again.... maybe this time on insanity!


I'm enjoying my 3rd playthrough now (1st in more than a month), looking at the game through the lens of IT. But if the EC comes out, and they debunk IT. I'm not paying for any DLC, no matter how awesome it looks.



Right now, I'm on my 7th playthrough.

After completing that playthrough, I'll start a brand new one in ME1.

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paxxton wrote...

Can anyone tell me how to set a custom profile picture?


I thought this exact thing just before reading your comment, weird....

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JasonSic wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Can anyone tell me how to set a custom profile picture?


I thought this exact thing just before reading your comment, weird....


Sharing thoughts?!?

You're INDOCTRINATED!

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JasonSic wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Can anyone tell me how to set a custom profile picture?


I thought this exact thing just before reading your comment, weird....


Here's how.

Cool sig, btw!

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When Shepard sees Anderson choosing destroy, what exactly is that? Is Shepard imagining it, is starchild making him see it, is it outside the in game reality and only meant for the player?


I'm of the mind that they're generated, and forced on Shepard, by the catalyst.  We see Anderson, Shepard's closest ally, partaking in the solution that the catalyst then goes on to paint the most negatively---as the most destructive, the less-evolved, the less-pacifistic option.  Manipulation dial cranked up a few degrees.


Someone pointed out to me, I don't think it was in this thread, that it had to be the kid because Shepard knew exactly what to do in both the control and destroy options without them being voiced.


But that would only make sense if the entire ending was IT, correct?  If the Anderson/TIM scene before you encounter Starkid is literal, then how could the Starkid possibly know how to project the appropriate "morality-image" into Shepard's mind?  As far as we know, assuming the ending it literal - the Reapers and/or Starkid can't read minds, can they?  Is this more Space Magic?




That's my point. Since when does Shepards morality get dictated to the player by displaying his thought process on screen? When has that mechanic ever been used prior to the ending?

Also, why would starchild portray the option he doesn't want Shepard to choose by linking it to the one person Shepard would trust?

Seems to suggest that Shepard was hallucinating the end and that Anderson was his subconscious projecting itself into the Reaper indoctrination

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Hawk227 wrote...
I'm enjoying my 3rd playthrough now (1st in more than a month), looking at the game through the lens of IT. But if the EC comes out, and they debunk IT. I'm not paying for any DLC, no matter how awesome it looks.


IT describes my personal best/favorite theory that they could end the game with. Even if they don't end up using it, as long as they end it WELL, I'll be fine with it. 

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 And now, for fun, some screenshot analysis!

Ok, here's the conduit before the blast. Notice it's clear except for the maruader rock. But ALSO notice the gunship that was shot down in the middle left, just beside sheps head (was shot down like 5 secs before I took the screenshot). Notice how close it is to the beam, and it's rough position.

Posted Image


Now, when you wake up three makos are destroyed around you. Ok, I could maybe buy that they were destroyed after I was hit. But behind us we see the new tree...

Posted Image


Remember the gunship I mentioned? Where has it gone? it appears to have become a ...slanted piece of ground...

Posted Image


Ok, one other object appeared when you woke up. This turbine thing, against which a marine is slumped. Odd. 

Posted Image


Except...here's a pic of the runup to the beam.

Posted Image

Oof, image dump, sorry. Anyhoo, discuss, disparage, dismiss, whatever :P

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SS2Dante wrote...

 And now, for fun, some screenshot analysis!

Ok, here's the conduit before the blast. Notice it's clear except for the maruader rock. But ALSO notice the gunship that was shot down in the middle left, just beside sheps head (was shot down like 5 secs before I took the screenshot). Notice how close it is to the beam, and it's rough position.

*


Now, when you wake up three makos are destroyed around you. Ok, I could maybe buy that they were destroyed after I was hit. But behind us we see the new tree...

*


Remember the gunship I mentioned? Where has it gone? it appears to have become a ...slanted piece of ground...

*


Ok, one other object appeared when you woke up. This turbine thing, against which a marine is slumped. Odd. 

*


Except...here's a pic of the runup to the beam.

*

Oof, image dump, sorry. Anyhoo, discuss, disparage, dismiss, whatever :P



OMFG Bioware is LAZY!!!



...... All killing aside, nice find. :P
          ^KIDDING^
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spotlessvoid wrote...

ExtendedCut wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

When Shepard sees Anderson choosing destroy, what exactly is that? Is Shepard imagining it, is starchild making him see it, is it outside the in game reality and only meant for the player?


I'm of the mind that they're generated, and forced on Shepard, by the catalyst.  We see Anderson, Shepard's closest ally, partaking in the solution that the catalyst then goes on to paint the most negatively---as the most destructive, the less-evolved, the less-pacifistic option.  Manipulation dial cranked up a few degrees.


Someone pointed out to me, I don't think it was in this thread, that it had to be the kid because Shepard knew exactly what to do in both the control and destroy options without them being voiced.


But that would only make sense if the entire ending was IT, correct?  If the Anderson/TIM scene before you encounter Starkid is literal, then how could the Starkid possibly know how to project the appropriate "morality-image" into Shepard's mind?  As far as we know, assuming the ending it literal - the Reapers and/or Starkid can't read minds, can they?  Is this more Space Magic?




That's my point. Since when does Shepards morality get dictated to the player by displaying his thought process on screen? When has that mechanic ever been used prior to the ending?

Also, why would starchild portray the option he doesn't want Shepard to choose by linking it to the one person Shepard would trust?

Seems to suggest that Shepard was hallucinating the end and that Anderson was his subconscious projecting itself into the Reaper indoctrination


I'm with spotless, I think the images are all created by Shepard, not the Reapers.

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Wanted to try my hand at trolling, see what all the fuss is about.
Here goes:

I just want to say indoctrination theory its wrong cause it isn't right cause starchild didn't say reapers are didn't make sense crazy thread free side with starchild it wasn't a hallucination or not Harbingers beam is real cause only Shepard ****ing loves steak that much indoctrination who even posts reapers forums reapers Reapers broke the cycle of twitter theory delusions and you know its all true idt wasn't ever planned with starchild cause it isn't when Shepard breath scene isn't he landed on the Citadel space isn't hallucination starchilld Reaper is not is on earth how did Reapers arrival you're dogs weired it isn't even. Because reapers are lazy writers indoctrinated space magic reaper


Meh, I don't get it...

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I'm with spotless, I think the images are all created by Shepard, not the Reapers.


Goes back to "your consciousness projecting familiar imagery to make sense of something something Legiony".

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SS2Dante wrote...

 And now, for fun, some screenshot analysis!

Ok, here's the conduit before the blast. Notice it's clear except for the maruader rock. But ALSO notice the gunship that was shot down in the middle left, just beside sheps head (was shot down like 5 secs before I took the screenshot). Notice how close it is to the beam, and it's rough position.

Posted Image


Now, when you wake up three makos are destroyed around you. Ok, I could maybe buy that they were destroyed after I was hit. But behind us we see the new tree...

Posted Image


Remember the gunship I mentioned? Where has it gone? it appears to have become a ...slanted piece of ground...

Posted Image


Ok, one other object appeared when you woke up. This turbine thing, against which a marine is slumped. Odd. 

Posted Image


Except...here's a pic of the runup to the beam.

Posted Image

Oof, image dump, sorry. Anyhoo, discuss, disparage, dismiss, whatever :P




My reaction when I looked at the 2 last pics:

HOLY SH*T!!!:o

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SS2Dante wrote...

 And now, for fun, some screenshot analysis!

Ok, here's the conduit before the blast. Notice it's clear except for the maruader rock. But ALSO notice the gunship that was shot down in the middle left, just beside sheps head (was shot down like 5 secs before I took the screenshot). Notice how close it is to the beam, and it's rough position.

Posted Image


Now, when you wake up three makos are destroyed around you. Ok, I could maybe buy that they were destroyed after I was hit. But behind us we see the new tree...

Posted Image


Remember the gunship I mentioned? Where has it gone? it appears to have become a ...slanted piece of ground...

Posted Image


Ok, one other object appeared when you woke up. This turbine thing, against which a marine is slumped. Odd. 

Posted Image


Except...here's a pic of the runup to the beam.

Posted Image

Oof, image dump, sorry. Anyhoo, discuss, disparage, dismiss, whatever :P



Is that what the game looks like on 360?
:(

I <3 My PC