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#55751
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spotlessvoid wrote...

Wanted to try my hand at trolling, see what all the fuss is about.
Here goes:

I just want to say indoctrination theory its wrong cause it isn't right cause starchild didn't say reapers are didn't make sense crazy thread free side with starchild it wasn't a hallucination or not Harbingers beam is real cause only Shepard ****ing loves steak that much indoctrination who even posts reapers forums reapers Reapers broke the cycle of twitter theory delusions and you know its all true idt wasn't ever planned with starchild cause it isn't when Shepard breath scene isn't he landed on the Citadel space isn't hallucination starchilld Reaper is not is on earth how did Reapers arrival you're dogs weired it isn't even. Because reapers are lazy writers indoctrinated space magic reaper


Meh, I don't get it...



There must be some hidden code in all that gibberish...

Oh my god... YOU'RE ONE OF THEM!!!

AAAAAHHHHRRRRGGGHHHHH....

*runs away with arms flailing around in the air*

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MaximizedAction wrote...

JasonSic wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Can anyone tell me how to set a custom profile picture?


I thought this exact thing just before reading your comment, weird....


Here's how.

Cool sig, btw!


Thx for the help.

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TSA_383 wrote...

Is that what the game looks like on 360?
:(

I <3 My PC


Don't... you.... do it...

You're going to make me buy the ME trilogy for PC, aren't you? I've been mulling over the idea ever since they first announced ME1 for PC. If there ever was a "FFFUUUUU--" moment for me, it was that... and then my XBOX ME1 collectors edition discs getting stolen out of my luggage.

Modifié par Unschuld, 11 mai 2012 - 09:21 .


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TSA_383 wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

 And now, for fun, some screenshot analysis!

Ok, here's the conduit before the blast. Notice it's clear except for the maruader rock. But ALSO notice the gunship that was shot down in the middle left, just beside sheps head (was shot down like 5 secs before I took the screenshot). Notice how close it is to the beam, and it's rough position.

Posted Image


Now, when you wake up three makos are destroyed around you. Ok, I could maybe buy that they were destroyed after I was hit. But behind us we see the new tree...

Posted Image


Remember the gunship I mentioned? Where has it gone? it appears to have become a ...slanted piece of ground...

Posted Image


Ok, one other object appeared when you woke up. This turbine thing, against which a marine is slumped. Odd. 

Posted Image


Except...here's a pic of the runup to the beam.

Posted Image

Oof, image dump, sorry. Anyhoo, discuss, disparage, dismiss, whatever :P



Is that what the game looks like on 360?
:(

I <3 My PC


...actually that's on PC.

...*smug*

...sorry :P

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Unschuld wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

Is that what the game looks like on 360?
:(

I <3 My PC


Don't... you.... do it...

You're going to make me buy the ME trilogy for PC, aren't you? I've been mulling over the idea ever since they first announced ME1 for PC. If there ever was a "FFFUUUUU--" moment for me, it was that... and them my XBOX ME1 collectors edition discs getting stolen out of my luggage.


joiiiiin ussss, we have high resolution textures and beyond-1080p screens and awesome visual effects :lol:

SS2Dante wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

 And now, for fun, some screenshot analysis!

Ok,
here's the conduit before the blast. Notice it's clear except for the
maruader rock. But ALSO notice the gunship that was shot down in the
middle left, just beside sheps head (was shot down like 5 secs before I
took the screenshot). Notice how close it is to the beam, and it's rough
position.

Posted Image


Now,
when you wake up three makos are destroyed around you. Ok, I could
maybe buy that they were destroyed after I was hit. But behind us we see
the new tree...

Posted Image


Remember the gunship I mentioned? Where has it gone? it appears to have become a ...slanted piece of ground...

Posted Image


Ok, one other object appeared when you woke up. This turbine thing, against which a marine is slumped. Odd. 

Posted Image


Except...here's a pic of the runup to the beam.

Posted Image

Oof, image dump, sorry. Anyhoo, discuss, disparage, dismiss, whatever :P



Is that what the game looks like on 360?
[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/sad.png[/smilie]

I [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/heart.png[/smilie] My PC


...actually that's on PC.

...*smug*

...sorry :P


Really?
I swear mine looks shinier... What graphics setup? ME3 adjusts its graphics settings on-the-fly depending on fps on the PC version I think?
(Am running ATI 7970 so it's pretty well maxed out :pinched:)

Modifié par TSA_383, 11 mai 2012 - 09:24 .


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Anyway, someone explain to me the significance of those screenshots, perhaps in the manner in which you would explain it to a child, or a traffic warden.

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TSA I don't know, the default settings, though from what I could see you can't customise all that much. Possibly you need to open in new browser?

Besides, non hd screen and put into paint then uploaded. But honestly I'm not seeing much of a difference graphics wise between the two.

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TSA_383 wrote...

Anyway, someone explain to me the significance of those screenshots, perhaps in the manner in which you would explain it to a child, or a traffic warden.


Yeah, I don't see it either.

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Hey guys.
Suppose we are pretty much entirely on the money with what we've said here (and I suspect we probably are)...

http://social.biowar.../index/11994949
The fan reaction is going to be... unprecedented.

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TSA_383 wrote...

Unschuld wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

Is that what the game looks like on 360?
:(

I <3 My PC


Don't... you.... do it...

You're going to make me buy the ME trilogy for PC, aren't you? I've been mulling over the idea ever since they first announced ME1 for PC. If there ever was a "FFFUUUUU--" moment for me, it was that... and them my XBOX ME1 collectors edition discs getting stolen out of my luggage.


joiiiiin ussss, we have high resolution textures and beyond-1080p screens and awesome visual effects :lol:


Believe me, I know... :(

I'm SO glad I have Skyrim for PC. Now I want Mass Effect to share the glory, I just have to justify the costs. My computer would have no problem running it...


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Yeah, I'm not a nerd... at all... :?

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TSA_383 wrote...

Hey guys.
Suppose we are pretty much entirely on the money with what we've said here (and I suspect we probably are)...

http://social.biowar.../index/11994949
The fan reaction is going to be... unprecedented.


Glad this thread isn't swelling with rage.

Hold the line

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Unschuld wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

Unschuld wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

Is that what the game looks like on 360?
:(

I <3 My PC


Don't... you.... do it...

You're going to make me buy the ME trilogy for PC, aren't you? I've been mulling over the idea ever since they first announced ME1 for PC. If there ever was a "FFFUUUUU--" moment for me, it was that... and them my XBOX ME1 collectors edition discs getting stolen out of my luggage.


joiiiiin ussss, we have high resolution textures and beyond-1080p screens and awesome visual effects :lol:


Believe me, I know... :(

I'm SO glad I have Skyrim for PC. Now I want Mass Effect to share the glory, I just have to justify the costs. My computer would have no problem running it...


Posted Image
Posted Image
Posted Image

Yeah, I'm not a nerd... at all... :?

Bahaha, that's fantastic. You do that by hand?

My setup seems to just be all black:
http://i47.tinypic.com/dww50l.jpg (that moment when you realise everything you own is black, white or silver...)
http://i45.tinypic.com/inxr3b.jpg (size reference for the Haf X next to a CM storm I was building for someone :P)

Modifié par TSA_383, 11 mai 2012 - 09:44 .


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SS2Dante wrote...

 And now, for fun, some screenshot analysis!

Yay seeing my Shep in action :P

Additionally a few hundred pages someone called that part after getting hit by Harbinger "walk of shame" now I call this next screenshot "seat of shame"
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Also I know it was mentioned several times but really no one picked it up, so I want to do it again:
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these three look awfully the same. Also the two dead ones are in the places where your dead squadmates would be with low EMS.

#55764
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MegumiAzusa wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

 And now, for fun, some screenshot analysis!

Yay seeing my Shep in action :P

Additionally a few hundred pages someone called that part after getting hit by Harbinger "walk of shame" now I call this next screenshot "seat of shame"
Posted Image

Also I know it was mentioned several times but really no one picked it up, so I want to do it again:
Posted Image
these three look awfully the same. Also the two dead ones are in the places where your dead squadmates would be with low EMS.


Yep ;)

I wondered about that, couldn't get a good enough shot to be sure though.

#55765
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@Unschuld

That N7 designed case will be mine someday *evil laugh*

Seriously though it'll go great with my N7 Mug and sweat/jacket/shirt collection. Was it done by hand?

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

 And now, for fun, some screenshot analysis!

Yay seeing my Shep in action :P

Additionally a few hundred pages someone called that part after getting hit by Harbinger "walk of shame" now I call this next screenshot "seat of shame"
Posted Image

Also I know it was mentioned several times but really no one picked it up, so I want to do it again:
Posted Image
these three look awfully the same. Also the two dead ones are in the places where your dead squadmates would be with low EMS.


Naaah, the last one isn't Coats. Coats has a curvy nose and a botoxed forehead, the dead soldier doesn't seem to have either.

But I noticed another thing in all these recent screenshots. Why did some soldiers have the time to take off their helmet? During the run I only noticed fully armored soldiers.

With IT: Their purpose is to let Shepard see the faces of the dead humans. Otherwise they'd be faceless soldiers.
Without IT: ???

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SS2Dante wrote...

*snip*

Yep ;)

I wondered about that, couldn't get a good enough shot to be sure though.


Face looks the same but I don't think Coats decided to  get a buzz cut between the transport and the beam run :). I've seen a few random crew NPC have very similar faces, even a couple that look like Engineer Adams with a haircut.

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Unschuld wrote...

Believe me, I know... :(

I'm SO glad I have Skyrim for PC. Now I want Mass Effect to share the glory, I just have to justify the costs. My computer would have no problem running it...


Posted Image
Posted Image
Posted Image

Yeah, I'm not a nerd... at all... :?


You... you're my hero... I'm so envious of that case....

Modifié par balance5050, 11 mai 2012 - 09:49 .


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TSA_383 wrote...

Hey guys.
Suppose we are pretty much entirely on the money with what we've said here (and I suspect we probably are)...

http://social.biowar.../index/11994949
The fan reaction is going to be... unprecedented.

What was the mentioned "escapade"? The quoted "I respond poorly to demands."? If yes I can't see anything wrong in that statement.

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Huh. Did anyone else pick up on Shepard whispering "No" twice in the first few seconds of waking up?

Except it sounds wrong...different from the breathing...can anyone check the sound files for this part?

Modifié par SS2Dante, 11 mai 2012 - 09:51 .


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SS2Dante wrote...

 And now, for fun, some screenshot analysis!

Ok, here's the conduit before the blast. Notice it's clear except for the maruader rock. But ALSO notice the gunship that was shot down in the middle left, just beside sheps head (was shot down like 5 secs before I took the screenshot). Notice how close it is to the beam, and it's rough position.

*Snip*


Now, when you wake up three makos are destroyed around you. Ok, I could maybe buy that they were destroyed after I was hit. But behind us we see the new tree...

*snip*


Remember the gunship I mentioned? Where has it gone? it appears to have become a ...slanted piece of ground...

*Snip*


Ok, one other object appeared when you woke up. This turbine thing, against which a marine is slumped. Odd. 

Posted Image


Except...here's a pic of the runup to the beam.

Posted Image

Oof, image dump, sorry. Anyhoo, discuss, disparage, dismiss, whatever :P



You've got the trees but the turbine was there, even though it wasn't rendered from that distance.

Look at this video.




At about 15-18 seconds in you'll see the turnbine pop in.

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Unschuld wrote...

Believe me, I know... :(

I'm SO glad I have Skyrim for PC. Now I want Mass Effect to share the glory, I just have to justify the costs. My computer would have no problem running it...


Posted Image
Posted Image
Posted Image

Yeah, I'm not a nerd... at all... :?


*Harbinger Voice* Relinquish the details of where you got this or your home will become my laboratory!

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ExtendedCut wrote...
But that would only make sense if the entire ending was IT, correct?  If the Anderson/TIM scene before you encounter Starkid is literal, then how could the Starkid possibly know how to project the appropriate "morality-image" into Shepard's mind?  As far as we know, assuming the ending it literal - the Reapers and/or Starkid can't read minds, can they?  Is this more Space Magic?



Reapers can read minds, at least that's what it indicates in the book Retribution, it's how they manipulate victims, by twisting their own thoughts.

Saren was twisted in the same way, as a spectre he wants to bring order to chaos, Sovereign uses this to manipulate Saren, their goals are not too disimilar, indocrtrination works best if the goals match.

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EpyonX3 wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

 And now, for fun, some screenshot analysis!

Ok, here's the conduit before the blast. Notice it's clear except for the maruader rock. But ALSO notice the gunship that was shot down in the middle left, just beside sheps head (was shot down like 5 secs before I took the screenshot). Notice how close it is to the beam, and it's rough position.

*Snip*


Now, when you wake up three makos are destroyed around you. Ok, I could maybe buy that they were destroyed after I was hit. But behind us we see the new tree...

*snip*


Remember the gunship I mentioned? Where has it gone? it appears to have become a ...slanted piece of ground...

*Snip*


Ok, one other object appeared when you woke up. This turbine thing, against which a marine is slumped. Odd. 

Posted Image


Except...here's a pic of the runup to the beam.

Posted Image

Oof, image dump, sorry. Anyhoo, discuss, disparage, dismiss, whatever :P



You've got the trees but the turbine was there, even though it wasn't rendered from that distance.

Look at this video.




At about 15-18 seconds in you'll see the turnbine pop in.


At what point is that video taken? (like, is it a video of the before scene or after scene?) Just ask cos it's weird. You can see the outline of all the stuff that WILL appear, and indeed the turbine does, but the others don't? Why is it just the new stuff that is marked by shadows? Also, the gunship isn't there...so either that was before, or it's removed after....arg my head.

Not doubting you or anything just when/what state that level is in at that point interests me. 

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TSA_383 wrote...
Bahaha, that's fantastic. You do that by hand?

My setup seems to just be all black:
http://i47.tinypic.com/dww50l.jpg (that moment when you realise everything you own is black, white or silver...)
http://i45.tinypic.com/inxr3b.jpg (size reference for the Haf X next to a CM storm I was building for someone [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie])


 
Nice home office setup! mine is a bit hackneyed by comparison

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

@Unschuld

That N7 designed case will be mine someday *evil laugh*

Seriously though it'll go great with my N7 Mug and sweat/jacket/shirt collection. Was it done by hand?


Yep, all by hand. Well, mostly. The damaged paint was created mostly by spraying the white stripe first, then smearing lithium grease (usually for my car) on it before I sprayed the red. After the red dried, I could wipe away the areas that had grease under them to reveal the surface beneath. I added some smaller scratches by gouging with various sharp objects. The N7 was created by photocopying my N7 patch from the CE, and using it as a masking stencil.