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paxxton wrote...

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Anyone consider that Joker wasn't in the middle of a jump and instead was going FTL? I noticed that when in FTL, there is a pinkish glow around the normany. This same glow was present at the end.


He could have just seen a wall of fire coming in his direction. Anyone would run away in such a situation.


Nah, that thing was moving pretty fast, no way he would have gottent to a relay and jumped before it got them.

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EpyonX3 wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

Anyone consider that Joker wasn't in the middle of a jump and instead was going FTL? I noticed that when in FTL, there is a pinkish glow around the normany. This same glow was present at the end.


It is a possibility. I guessed he was in the middle of the jump because of the shape of the beam he was running from - it was too round to be a massive explosion. But yeah he could have come out of the jump and be in FTL, possibility


Only reason I think so is because the Relay collapse would have happened much quick than that, like we see in the the galaxy clip. If that were happening to joker, I think the ship would have been torn apart much more than what it was.

Also the smoldering parts look like thermal shots as opposed to crash damage. Those same thermal shots are seen around the Citadel after the Cerberus attack. This suggests that the normandy was badly damaged before the made the escape.


If the wave disabled the mass effect fields, the Normandy would have been subject to whatever debris it encountered in space. Also, the nature of the blast wave is unknown, but does appear to have a thermal property, (given the worst destroy outcome).

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EpyonX3 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

Anyone consider that Joker wasn't in the middle of a jump and instead was going FTL? I noticed that when in FTL, there is a pinkish glow around the normany. This same glow was present at the end.


He could have just seen a wall of fire coming in his direction. Anyone would run away in such a situation.


Nah, that thing was moving pretty fast, no way he would have gottent to a relay and jumped before it got them.


You asked for an alternative to Joker jumping relays. So he could have seen that wall of fire approaching and chickened away. He didn't have to be in the middle of a jump.

Modifié par paxxton, 12 mai 2012 - 01:45 .


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Since this was so popular with the earlier crowd, I thought I'd share it again. 

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paxxton wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

Anyone consider that Joker wasn't in the middle of a jump and instead was going FTL? I noticed that when in FTL, there is a pinkish glow around the normany. This same glow was present at the end.


He could have just seen a wall of fire coming in his direction. Anyone would run away in such a situation.


Nah, that thing was moving pretty fast, no way he would have gottent to a relay and jumped before it got them.


You asked for an alternative to Joker jumping relays. So he could have seen that wall of fire approaching and chicken away. He didn't have to be in the middle of a jump.


Oh I see.

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Tirian Thorn wrote...

Since this was so popular with the earlier crowd, I thought I'd share it again. 

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Does this unit use a comb? Posted Image

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Tirian Thorn wrote...

Since this was so popular with the earlier crowd, I thought I'd share it again. 

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Not as ridiculous as that ratty mess he calls hair.Posted Image

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EpyonX3 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

Anyone consider that Joker wasn't in the middle of a jump and instead was going FTL? I noticed that when in FTL, there is a pinkish glow around the normany. This same glow was present at the end.


He could have just seen a wall of fire coming in his direction. Anyone would run away in such a situation.


Nah, that thing was moving pretty fast, no way he would have gottent to a relay and jumped before it got them.


You asked for an alternative to Joker jumping relays. So he could have seen that wall of fire approaching and chicken away. He didn't have to be in the middle of a jump.


Oh I see.


This has been posted before but Iam just going to leave it here....

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The whole joker running away part was an illusion!

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Chris Priestly wrote...

Ok, stepping in here a second

1 - Duane is entitled to his opinion, just like you all are entitled to yours
2 - So is the writer of the article
3 - Duane is likely referencing that the person who wrote the article viewed the entire game of ME3 as an ending, which it is. This is what the team intended, which is the "gets it". Yes, you can discuss how successful we were or whatever, but this was the goal.
4 - Some people like the ending and they are welcome to express that here the same way that those who didn't like it express their opinions.
5 - Just because Duane does or doesn't feel a certain way doesn't mean anything about the Extended Cut.





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Setmaster wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

Ok, stepping in here a second

1 - Duane is entitled to his opinion, just like you all are entitled to yours
2 - So is the writer of the article
3 - Duane is likely referencing that the person who wrote the article viewed the entire game of ME3 as an ending, which it is. This is what the team intended, which is the "gets it". Yes, you can discuss how successful we were or whatever, but this was the goal.
4 - Some people like the ending and they are welcome to express that here the same way that those who didn't like it express their opinions.
5 - Just because Duane does or doesn't feel a certain way doesn't mean anything about the Extended Cut.






The Lords of BSN spoke? Then let it be! We are all entitled to our opinion.

And he does make a good point, viewing ME3 in its entirety as an ending instead of just the last 10 minutes is the perfect way to game.

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KevShep wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

Anyone consider that Joker wasn't in the middle of a jump and instead was going FTL? I noticed that when in FTL, there is a pinkish glow around the normany. This same glow was present at the end.


He could have just seen a wall of fire coming in his direction. Anyone would run away in such a situation.


Nah, that thing was moving pretty fast, no way he would have gottent to a relay and jumped before it got them.


You asked for an alternative to Joker jumping relays. So he could have seen that wall of fire approaching and chicken away. He didn't have to be in the middle of a jump.


Oh I see.


This has been posted before but Iam just going to leave it here....

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The whole joker running away part was an illusion!


That galaxy map doesn't look like it's set in the exact position as the actual galaxy.

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KevShep wrote...
This has been posted before but Iam just going to leave it here....

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The whole joker running away part was an illusion!


Hmm, yes... the Sol system is in the Orion-Cygnus Arm, which is mid-rim. The origin of the first explosion appears on, (what looks to be), the Outer Arm.

While it's not the same sector as the Viper Nebula, it is in the outer rim.

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Auralius Carolus wrote...

KevShep wrote...
This has been posted before but Iam just going to leave it here....

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The whole joker running away part was an illusion!


Hmm, yes... the Sol system is in the Orion-Cygnus Arm, which is mid-rim. The origin of the first explosion appears on, (what looks to be), the Outer Arm.

While it's not the same sector as the Viper Nebula, it is in the outer rim.


Still doesn't look right to me. But if that's the case it lend to the idea that Joker was in FTL rather than mid jump.

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EpyonX3 wrote...

KevShep wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

Anyone consider that Joker wasn't in the middle of a jump and instead was going FTL? I noticed that when in FTL, there is a pinkish glow around the normany. This same glow was present at the end.


He could have just seen a wall of fire coming in his direction. Anyone would run away in such a situation.


Nah, that thing was moving pretty fast, no way he would have gottent to a relay and jumped before it got them.


You asked for an alternative to Joker jumping relays. So he could have seen that wall of fire approaching and chicken away. He didn't have to be in the middle of a jump.


Oh I see.


This has been posted before but Iam just going to leave it here....

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The whole joker running away part was an illusion!


That galaxy map doesn't look like it's set in the exact position as the actual galaxy.


Just got an idea. What if the whole ME3 game is just an indoctrination signal broadcast from the Reapers stranded in the system with the destroyed Alpha Relay. Posted Image

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Auralius Carolus wrote...

KevShep wrote...
This has been posted before but Iam just going to leave it here....

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The whole joker running away part was an illusion!


Hmm, yes... the Sol system is in the Orion-Cygnus Arm, which is mid-rim. The origin of the first explosion appears on, (what looks to be), the Outer Arm.

While it's not the same sector as the Viper Nebula, it is in the outer rim.


It is the Viper Nebula...look at the galaxy!

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 Probably this has already been posted. But has anyone seen the latest IT video.

VERY VERY GOOD. Before this I was skeptical on IT. I'd seen all the videos and it all seemed like wishful thinking to me. However, this documentary completey convinced me that the IT is true. 

It is about an hour and a half long and analyses every aspect of the IT in great detail. It is truly amazing some of the nuances and coincidences, too many to be accidental in my opinion.

Give it a look. It's amazing. 

This has already been posted but alwasys good to post again.

www.youtube.com/watch

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EpyonX3 wrote...

Auralius Carolus wrote...

KevShep wrote...
This has been posted before but Iam just going to leave it here....

Posted Image
Posted Image

The whole joker running away part was an illusion!


Hmm, yes... the Sol system is in the Orion-Cygnus Arm, which is mid-rim. The origin of the first explosion appears on, (what looks to be), the Outer Arm.

While it's not the same sector as the Viper Nebula, it is in the outer rim.


Still doesn't look right to me. But if that's the case it lend to the idea that Joker was in FTL rather than mid jump.


So the it would have been the wave that hit him, does that beam the wave was spreading at a 12x "faster than light" rate? I can see how it could catch up with him if it were the beam shot in the relay, but I would imagine the reaper destroy signal wave going at the speed of light... max.

Or, you know... space magic.:wizard:

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paxxton wrote...

Just got an idea. What if the whole ME3 game is just an indoctrination signal broadcast from the Reapers stranded in the system with the destroyed Alpha Relay. Posted Image

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Someone here, I forgot who sry, mentioned that they hear footsteps when waking up at the beam.

Well I did some digging and found this guy:

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He's underground, just standing there. The steps most likely came from him. How do I know? If you flycam in Shepard's cabin, you'll reach a spot where you hear footsteps. If you go under the floor, you'll see severe rendered crew members and one walking about.


On a side note, I went under the beam and saw this:
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That's just plain wierd of bioware to put those bodies there, knowing that people will never see it when playing through.

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balance5050 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

Auralius Carolus wrote...

KevShep wrote...
This has been posted before but Iam just going to leave it here....

Posted Image
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The whole joker running away part was an illusion!


Hmm, yes... the Sol system is in the Orion-Cygnus Arm, which is mid-rim. The origin of the first explosion appears on, (what looks to be), the Outer Arm.

While it's not the same sector as the Viper Nebula, it is in the outer rim.


Still doesn't look right to me. But if that's the case it lend to the idea that Joker was in FTL rather than mid jump.


So the it would have been the wave that hit him, does that beam the wave was spreading at a 12x "faster than light" rate? I can see how it could catch up with him if it were the beam shot in the relay, but I would imagine the reaper destroy signal wave going at the speed of light... max.

Or, you know... space magic.:wizard:


Lol. Just look at the speed at which the beam goes to a relay and the speed that the red wave spreads from system to system. The whole process looks like it takes seconds to travel between systems.

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EpyonX3 wrote...

Someone here, I forgot who sry, mentioned that they hear footsteps when waking up at the beam.

Well I did some digging and found this guy:

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He's underground, just standing there. The steps most likely came from him. How do I know? If you flycam in Shepard's cabin, you'll reach a spot where you hear footsteps. If you go under the floor, you'll see severe rendered crew members and one walking about.


On a side note, I went under the beam and saw this:
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That's just plain wierd of bioware to put those bodies there, knowing that people will never see it when playing through.



What else is under the beam? Did you find any reaper cables cuz  that would help with this Breath scene takes place on Earth or the Citadel but can't because of rubble or reaper cables headache I've gotten myself into.

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gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

Someone here, I forgot who sry, mentioned that they hear footsteps when waking up at the beam.

Well I did some digging and found this guy:




He's underground, just standing there. The steps most likely came from him. How do I know? If you flycam in Shepard's cabin, you'll reach a spot where you hear footsteps. If you go under the floor, you'll see severe rendered crew members and one walking about.


On a side note, I went under the beam and saw this:


That's just plain wierd of bioware to put those bodies there, knowing that people will never see it when playing through.



What else is under the beam? Did you find any reaper cables cuz  that would help with this Breath scene takes place on Earth or the Citadel but can't because of rubble or reaper cables headache I've gotten myself into.


I've looked before and found none but I figured I'd look again. Unfortunately, no reaper cables or blocks that resemble the ones in earlier parts of london that happen to be in the breathe scene.

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EpyonX3 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

Auralius Carolus wrote...

KevShep wrote...
This has been posted before but Iam just going to leave it here....

Posted Image
Posted Image

The whole joker running away part was an illusion!


Hmm, yes... the Sol system is in the Orion-Cygnus Arm, which is mid-rim. The origin of the first explosion appears on, (what looks to be), the Outer Arm.

While it's not the same sector as the Viper Nebula, it is in the outer rim.


Still doesn't look right to me. But if that's the case it lend to the idea that Joker was in FTL rather than mid jump.


So the it would have been the wave that hit him, does that beam the wave was spreading at a 12x "faster than light" rate? I can see how it could catch up with him if it were the beam shot in the relay, but I would imagine the reaper destroy signal wave going at the speed of light... max.

Or, you know... space magic.:wizard:


Lol. Just look at the speed at which the beam goes to a relay and the speed that the red wave spreads from system to system. The whole process looks like it takes seconds to travel between systems.


Not on Earth though... is it just slower from the citadel? I kinda thought that galaxy scene wasn't literal, considering a single beam splits into two different directions at the same time. Did the beam split and hit two relays taht were directly next to each other?

The beam seems to go much faster than the wave in every scene besides the galaxy map.

Modifié par balance5050, 12 mai 2012 - 02:40 .


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Seriously Watch this video. It goes into every detail. Anyone ever heard of the "DREAM FOLIAGE" file that can be found in the files of the ME3 pc version?

Why call it dream foliage?! It doesn't occur in any of the dream sequences. in fact the only place where it is seen is on the planet the Normandy Crash lands onto. 

Anyway just watch the video. Really convinced me.

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 Probably this has already been posted. But has anyone seen the latest IT video.

VERY VERY GOOD. Before this I was skeptical on IT. I'd seen all the videos and it all seemed like wishful thinking to me. However, this documentary completey convinced me that the IT is true. 

It is about an hour and a half long and analyses every aspect of the IT in great detail. It is truly amazing some of the nuances and coincidences, too many to be accidental in my opinion.

Give it a look. It's amazing. 

This has already been posted but alwasys good to post again.

www.youtube.com/watch

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KevShep wrote...

Auralius Carolus wrote...

KevShep wrote...
This has been posted before but Iam just going to leave it here....

Posted Image
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The whole joker running away part was an illusion!


Hmm, yes... the Sol system is in the Orion-Cygnus Arm, which is mid-rim. The origin of the first explosion appears on, (what looks to be), the Outer Arm.

While it's not the same sector as the Viper Nebula, it is in the outer rim.


It is the Viper Nebula...look at the galaxy!


If you lay one galaxy on top of the other, you'll find them matching up fairly nicely. The Viper Nebula is to the 3 O'Clock of the first explosion. Sol is at 12 O'Clock.

Anyway you shake it, the origin isn't the Solar System.