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gunslinger_ruiz wrote...
....That's can't be what acutally happensthe marauder saying "hold the line" that must've been put together by a fan. The pistol didn't have heat exhaust either. Although It's porbably possible to go under 800 EMS, if you do the minimum and have only 50% readiness.
magnetite wrote...
gunslinger_ruiz wrote...
....That's can't be what acutally happens
I guess so. Probably was. If the game files say the gun has infinite ammo, then it must have been edited. Still funny to watch.
Icinix wrote...
Has anyone seen an ending where thanks to ME2 deaths the only surviving squad members when you go to the end of ME3 are Liara, James and EDI?
- then you take Liara and James with you and choose Destroy?
Be interested in seeing who comes out of the ship at the end.
HellishFiend wrote...
magnetite wrote...
gunslinger_ruiz wrote...
The near-unlimited ammo seems more of a game mechanic than anything, imagine trying to pick the Destroy option with no ammo because you fired it all.
There is an outcome where the infamous Marauder Shields stops you from getting to the beam. It's based off of EMS I think. Your gun does not have any ammo in it whatsoever, so you can't get past him.
Low EMS outcome
Holy crap, is that legit? Wow. lol....
Modifié par Bill Casey, 12 mai 2012 - 08:55 .
Modifié par KevShep, 12 mai 2012 - 09:01 .
HellishFiend wrote...
Oh, I disagree. You can reload the gun manually, using the wrong animation, even. If they added the game mechanic of being able to reload, why not actually make you reload? You have unlimited ammo in the prologue too (until you get to the scripted point where you run out of ammo), but you still have to reload when you exhaust a clip. Why not just do that for the ending too?
Instead, we're supposed to believe that the ending sequence gives you an unlimited ammo gun that can still be reloaded manually, using the wrong animation for that gun, for gameplay related reasons? Nu-uh.... It's a big honkin' clue, if you ask me.
gunslinger_ruiz wrote....
Anyway, I know you were talking about ME2 Shepard's body surviving
re-entry in mostly one piece. I'd like to say it's impossible this time
around because he/she is ground zero for this:
Boom.
That is a way bigger explosion than the Normandy SR-1, and with no
kinetic barriers/fangled armor.... It's a bad day to be caught in an
explosion bigger than the Destiny Ascension.
Modifié par Hawk227, 12 mai 2012 - 09:02 .
I'm going to go and just call "coincidence" on this one unless we get more evidence, but it's curious that there might be a game mission that was supposed to be there...KevShep wrote...
I think that I found another clue by Bioware of indoctrination...
after doing the geth/quarian missions you see another "mission" highlighted on the galaxy map in the Minos Wasteland, a planet called Aequitas . You CANT activate it for some unknown reason. Then I looked up and there is a mission in ME2 called "N7:Abandoned Mine" where you have to stop a reaper artifact guarded by husks! The scientist there were indoctrinated!
There are clues throughout the game and this looks like one of them to me.
Hawk227 wrote...
HellishFiend wrote...
Oh, I
disagree. You can reload the gun manually, using the wrong animation,
even. If they added the game mechanic of being able to reload, why not
actually make you reload? You have unlimited ammo in the prologue too
(until you get to the scripted point where you run out of ammo), but you
still have to reload when you exhaust a clip. Why not just do that for
the ending too?
Instead, we're supposed to believe that the
ending sequence gives you an unlimited ammo gun that can still be
reloaded manually, using the wrong animation for that gun, for gameplay
related reasons? Nu-uh.... It's a big honkin' clue, if you ask me.
The Carnifex at the end can't be reloaded. I just played that segment, and tried repeatedly. No reload animation.gunslinger_ruiz wrote....
Anyway, I know you were talking about ME2 Shepard's body surviving
re-entry in mostly one piece. I'd like to say it's impossible this time
around because he/she is ground zero for this:
Boom.
That is a way bigger explosion than the Normandy SR-1, and with no
kinetic barriers/fangled armor.... It's a bad day to be caught in an
explosion bigger than the Destiny Ascension.
That's
A LOT bigger than the destiny ascension. The Presidium has a diameter
of about 7km. That explosion more than engulfs it. The diameter of the
explosion is 8-10km wide. Taken in two dimensions, it would engulf an
area of between 50-78 square km (268-523 cubic km in 3D). For reference,
the area of Manhattan is8759 square km, The fireball generated
by the nuke dropped on Hiroshima was only 370m wide. Thats 0.370km.
Within a radius of about a mile, nearly everyone died from thermal and
radiation burns. This explosion is at least 20x more powerful than the
Hiroshima nuke. Words cannot convey how much more realistic I think it
is that Shepard's body survived the reentry in ME2 than I think it is
that Shepard survived (minus armor, already badly injured) the explosion
above.
Finally, I mentioned earlier some dialogue Samara had
telling me not to waver, and to show the Reapers no mercy. Javik just
said "Do not waver, victory is not won with out difficult decisions".
Now, consider the ending as is, every choice is a "win", so where is the
difficult decision (besides which value you betray). I think these are
both examples of comrades warning you not to lose sight of the objective
once you get there (and thus not get indoctrinated).
Icinix wrote...
Has anyone seen an ending where thanks to ME2 deaths the only surviving squad members when you go to the end of ME3 are Liara, James and EDI?
- then you take Liara and James with you and choose Destroy?
Be interested in seeing who comes out of the ship at the end.
Modifié par pirate1802, 12 mai 2012 - 09:22 .
pirate1802 wrote...
Icinix wrote...
Has anyone seen an ending where thanks to ME2 deaths the only surviving squad members when you go to the end of ME3 are Liara, James and EDI?
- then you take Liara and James with you and choose Destroy?
Be interested in seeing who comes out of the ship at the end.
It doesnt work that way, the ones you take with you arn't the ones who come out of the ship. The first person is your LI and the second person is the one whom you took with you the most. In my first plathrough, Garrus (LI) and James came out; James was not there in the final mission. In the 2nd Garrus and Javik came out, Javik was the one I took the most with me. In the 3rd playthrough I took EDI with me on almost all the mission to make her come outta the ship; but Traynor and Javik came out -.-
Icinix wrote...
pirate1802 wrote...
Icinix wrote...
Has anyone seen an ending where thanks to ME2 deaths the only surviving squad members when you go to the end of ME3 are Liara, James and EDI?
- then you take Liara and James with you and choose Destroy?
Be interested in seeing who comes out of the ship at the end.
It doesnt work that way, the ones you take with you arn't the ones who come out of the ship. The first person is your LI and the second person is the one whom you took with you the most. In my first plathrough, Garrus (LI) and James came out; James was not there in the final mission. In the 2nd Garrus and Javik came out, Javik was the one I took the most with me. In the 3rd playthrough I took EDI with me on almost all the mission to make her come outta the ship; but Traynor and Javik came out -.-
Didn't suggest there was anyway it worked, was just wondering which 2 would come out after Joker when there weren't anyone left to bring out.
Hawk227 wrote...
The Carnifex at the end can't be reloaded. I just played that segment, and tried repeatedly. No reload animation.
I'll just let this speak for itself.Modifié par HellishFiend, 12 mai 2012 - 09:26 .
KevShep wrote...
I think that I found another clue by Bioware of indoctrination...
after doing the geth/quarian missions you see another "mission" highlighted on the galaxy map in the Minos Wasteland, a planet called Aequitas . You CANT activate it for some unknown reason. Then I looked up and there is a mission in ME2 called "N7:Abandoned Mine" where you have to stop a reaper artifact guarded by husks! The scientist there were indoctrinated!
There are clues throughout the game and this looks like one of them to me.
Nice find!!
HellishFiend wrote...
Hawk227 wrote...
The Carnifex at the end can't be reloaded. I just played that segment, and tried repeatedly. No reload animation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=R35CMVQP0I4#t=315s
TSA_383 wrote....
Also,
if you're right on the explosion, that'd make it roughly the size of the Tsar
Bomb (google it) the largest nuclear weapon ever detonated.
Yeah, not buying that a helmetless shep could survive somehow [img]http://na.llnet.bioware.cdn.ea.com/u/f/eagames/bioware/socialhttp://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/lol.png[/img]
Modifié par Hawk227, 12 mai 2012 - 10:08 .
Hawk227 wrote...
HellishFiend wrote...
Hawk227 wrote...
The Carnifex at the end can't be reloaded. I just played that segment, and tried repeatedly. No reload animation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=R35CMVQP0I4#t=315s
Weird. I can't remember if I tried it at the beam. I tried it repeatedly with the catalyst to no avail.
EDIT: I just loaded up my beam save, and sure enough.... I still can't reload. Definitely no reloading. Maybe it's an XBox thing.TSA_383 wrote....
Also,
if you're right on the explosion, that'd make it roughly the size of the Tsar
Bomb (google it) the largest nuclear weapon ever detonated.
Yeah, not buying that a helmetless shep could survive somehow [img]http://na.llnet.bioware.cdn.ea.com/u/f/eagames/bioware/socialhttp://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/lol.png[/img]
Byne found some website long long ago that estimated explosive yield. Using that we estimated it at about 400kt (much smaller than Tsar bomb 50mt). Looking at the details of the Tsar bomb, it's kind of hard to tell where this would fit. The mushroom cloud had a base of 40km, but the fireball was apparently only 8km wide. So, I guess we were wrong with the 400kt thing? Either way the Citadel blast was really effing big.
Modifié par Salient Archer, 12 mai 2012 - 10:00 .
HellishFiend wrote...
gunslinger_ruiz wrote...
magnetite wrote...
The gun that Shepard has during the final mission does have unlimited ammo. It also has a clip size of 999. Found that in the Coalesced.bin file. Also if you walk away from the beam far enough (turn around and walk towards the hill where you first saw Harbinger), you will die. Not via a bullet or anything. You'll just run into some invisible wall, and die.
The near-unlimited ammo seems more of a game mechanic than anything, imagine trying to pick the Destroy option with no ammo because you fired it all.
Oh, I disagree. You can reload the gun manually, using the wrong animation, even. If they added the game mechanic of being able to reload, why not actually make you reload? You have unlimited ammo in the prologue too (until you get to the scripted point where you run out of ammo), but you still have to reload when you exhaust a clip. Why not just do that for the ending too?
Instead, we're supposed to believe that the ending sequence gives you an unlimited ammo gun that can still be reloaded manually, using the wrong animation for that gun, for gameplay related reasons? Nu-uh.... It's a big honkin' clue, if you ask me.
Salient Archer wrote...
Hitting an object at 200kph vertically isn't any more terminal than hitting an object at 200kph horizontally, (considering a 200kph car accident with a stationary object is just as severe as free-fall) But lets face it, both are going to mess you up but still leave enough of you to be scooped up at the end.
Hawk227 wrote...
Salient Archer wrote...
Hitting an object at 200kph vertically isn't any more terminal than hitting an object at 200kph horizontally, (considering a 200kph car accident with a stationary object is just as severe as free-fall) But lets face it, both are going to mess you up but still leave enough of you to be scooped up at the end.
Exactly.
I always bought Jacob's "just meat and tubes'' description you get at the very beginning of ME2. I absolutely think that scenario is more plausible than surviving the Citadel explosion.
Salient Archer wrote...
In regards to a post made earlier, I'm assuming a few "terminal velocity experts" here haven't actually taken as many physics classes as they think (or maybe slept through a few)... check your facts about terminal velocity before you make assumptions ... you would think an ex-raaf pilot might know a few more things about it than you seem to believe.
Just to be clear: Although people have survived falls from terminal velocity (although it's a very limited number) they usually don't need to travel through the several layers of atmosphere that Shepard would have.
Hitting an object at 200kph vertically isn't any more terminal than hitting an object at 200kph horizontally, (considering a 200kph car accident with a stationary object is just as severe as free-fall) But lets face it, both are going to mess you up but still leave enough of you to be scooped up at the end.
BleedingUranium wrote...
Also, you know, the fact that's it's a Carnifex? ME has always been bad with sometimes showing default guns, and guns some characters can't use, in cut scenes, but never in ME otherwise has the game forced you to use a certain gun. Why not a Predator, is a specific gun was neccesary? The standard, default pistol. Because, the Carnifex it the ME equivelent of a .44 Magnum revolver. It looks like a revolver, and even has six rounds.
If you had any other pistol, a lot of people would probably have never noticed it had unlimited ammo, but with the Carnifex it's really, really obvious.
Far out, you were pretty damn lucky to survive it, but I'm glad you did. Funny you should mention Jeb Corliss' crash as my father-in law was only talking about it today, Jeb is one lucky SOB but shows how possible it is with "todays" tech to survive these kind of speeds, fast forward 171 years and include advancement via prothean tech and you have armor we couldn't comprehend yet.TSA_383 wrote...
Salient Archer wrote...
In regards to a post made earlier, I'm assuming a few "terminal velocity experts" here haven't actually taken as many physics classes as they think (or maybe slept through a few)... check your facts about terminal velocity before you make assumptions ... you would think an ex-raaf pilot might know a few more things about it than you seem to believe.
Just to be clear: Although people have survived falls from terminal velocity (although it's a very limited number) they usually don't need to travel through the several layers of atmosphere that Shepard would have.
Hitting an object at 200kph vertically isn't any more terminal than hitting an object at 200kph horizontally, (considering a 200kph car accident with a stationary object is just as severe as free-fall) But lets face it, both are going to mess you up but still leave enough of you to be scooped up at the end.
Precisely.
I do (well, did really) a bit of motorsports - did some karting when I was a kid and then did a half-dozen formula ford races.
Then, had a crash whilst testing out a new car in wales, and basically took a wheel to the head at some speed. Obviously I survived, would have killed me had my head not already been back against the back of the cockpit and I hadn't had a proper neck brace as it'd have broken my neck on impact but I was out of hospital the same week.
Now, modern helmets are even better than that. If Felipe Massa had been wearing a helmet like mine he'd have been killed back in '09 when he took a 1kg spring to the face at 160mph.
What I'm trying to say here is, with sci-fi logic and 160 years of materials research it's believeable that a brain could be kept relatively intact during a terminal velocity impact (although I don't buy re-entry), but NOT a 10km-fireball explosion
By the by if you ever saw Jeb Corliss's recent crash, he clipped a mountain at probably ~190kph and he's walking without crutches again now
Modifié par Salient Archer, 12 mai 2012 - 10:36 .
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