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Is it true that there are now multiple versions of the indoctrination theory as proposed in this thread?

http://social.biowar.../index/12023755

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OneWithTheAssassins wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

Nah then they will have a new excuse (they are already using it): Bioware shipped an incomplete game.

Have they said that?Image IPB


The naysayers? Countless times I'm sure. But, counterpoint: Bioware shipped a game with an underlaying theme successfully.

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gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Ah, speaking of piles, I was playing one of my broshep's earlier, still in ME2 but got to the Collectory Ship. I was looking around and felt a sense of familiarity with certain portions, a lot of it looked similar to Prothean tech/arcitechture.

But more importantly, I noticed Ashley's armored bodies laying in some of the body piles. Most of the other bodies were wearing civilian clothing or some kind of generic green armor, but Ash's armor white and light red was hard to miss and there was even one without a head. So, yeah, Bioware probably reused that paticular asset, BUT fun fact, no matter how hard I looked I couldn't find a Kaiden armored body in the whole ship. Hm, I wonder though, Ash was alive in this file, if Kaiden was would I have seen the Kaiden armor asset in place? Hmm. Tests.


What is most interesting to me is how much higher quality those bodies are in comparison to the ones on Earth/Citadel. In spite of being a several year old low-res prop, physical damage and decay is visible. The piles in ME3 are like blurry undetailed porcelain dolls contorted into a mesh of strawberry jam.

Modifié par Auralius Carolus, 13 mai 2012 - 07:12 .


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xsdob wrote...

Is it true that there are now multiple versions of the indoctrination theory as proposed in this thread?

http://social.biowar.../index/12023755



Those are early personal takes on the IT.

Generally speaking, the "Dream" version describes the current evolution. Shepard is presumed unconscious and physically incapacitated.

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Auralius Carolus wrote...

xsdob wrote...

Is it true that there are now multiple versions of the indoctrination theory as proposed in this thread?

http://social.biowar.../index/12023755



Those are early personal takes on the IT.

Generally speaking, the "Dream" version describes the current evolution. Shepard is presumed unconscious and physically incapacitated.


I just thought they should be posted under different names, like in christiansity there is catholisim, protestant, evangelical, etc.

They are disginguised from eachother but still belive the same basic fact that jesus exsisted.

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Hm normally I'd throw together some screenshots for analysis while the posting is slow, but I don't think I've got any left. Well, I did manage to take screens of all those odd paintings you see in London, but there's a solid 9 or so of them, much work to crop and angle them for comparisons.

Anyway, for those who haven't seen here's some screens of the Breath Scene objects with outlined shapes. Still no clue what they are, but hopefully these will help: click here

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Really wish I had photoshop again. But until then here's the best I can do, combining both of my screens for "Object 1"

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Still torn between labeling it a shelf or a building or just an unknown.

Modifié par gunslinger_ruiz, 13 mai 2012 - 08:06 .


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With the lines looks like a shelf but meh still cant see it with out it.

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For anyone interested, I have a thread on a speculative variation on IT about whether Synthesis could mean something a little different than traditional indoctrination. Basically proposes Synthesis represents an "offer of negotiation" to Shepard from the Reapers.

Here's the thread link:
http://social.biowar.../index/12013315
Thought it might have more appeal or interest to people who follow IT, whereas IT deniers tend to dismiss it out of hand.

It's pretty purely speculative, but thought it was an interesting idea. Let me know what you guys think!

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Rosewind wrote...

With the lines looks like a shelf but meh still cant see it with out it.


Here's some without

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okay nooow it looks like a shelf

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Rosewind wrote...

okay nooow it looks like a shelf


I agree somewhat. But... It... I don't know! It doesn't have the feeling like a shelf - it feels like a building in the distance. But it could be a shelf - I don't know.

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gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

okay nooow it looks like a shelf


I agree somewhat. But... It... I don't know! It doesn't have the feeling like a shelf - it feels like a building in the distance. But it could be a shelf - I don't know.


>< doesn't feel like a shelf......

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I dont thing thats a building, too small for it. I know it is at a distance, butt still.

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Rosewind wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

okay nooow it looks like a shelf


I agree somewhat. But... It... I don't know! It doesn't have the feeling like a shelf - it feels like a building in the distance. But it could be a shelf - I don't know.


>< doesn't feel like a shelf......


Because its shape isn't indicitive of a shelf. A shelf is shaped like a rectangle on all sides, and should come into the forground together. Both of those screens together show the shape of the object coming into the foreground at opposite angles, almost like the shape of a pentagon or a hexagon. That just might be cuz of the angle of the video as it shifts but if it's not then I don't think tis a pentagon shaped shelf but more like a pentagon shaped building/balcony.

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gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

okay nooow it looks like a shelf


I agree somewhat. But... It... I don't know! It doesn't have the feeling like a shelf - it feels like a building in the distance. But it could be a shelf - I don't know.


however both shelf and building still solidly confirm london rubble ;)

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gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

okay nooow it looks like a shelf


I agree somewhat. But... It... I don't know! It doesn't have the feeling like a shelf - it feels like a building in the distance. But it could be a shelf - I don't know.


>< doesn't feel like a shelf......


Because its shape isn't indicitive of a shelf. A shelf is shaped like a rectangle on all sides, and should come into the forground together. Both of those screens together show the shape of the object coming into the foreground at opposite angles, almost like the shape of a pentagon or a hexagon. That just might be cuz of the angle of the video as it shifts but if it's not then I don't think tis a pentagon shaped shelf but more like a pentagon shaped building/balcony.

so what does a shelf really feel like lol

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maxloef wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

okay nooow it looks like a shelf


I agree somewhat. But... It... I don't know! It doesn't have the feeling like a shelf - it feels like a building in the distance. But it could be a shelf - I don't know.


however both shelf and building still solidly confirm london rubble ;)



*logic clicks* Yes! That is the truth! Unless...it's neither...

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Rosewind wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

okay nooow it looks like a shelf


I agree somewhat. But... It... I don't know! It doesn't have the feeling like a shelf - it feels like a building in the distance. But it could be a shelf - I don't know.


>< doesn't feel like a shelf......


Because its shape isn't indicitive of a shelf. A shelf is shaped like a rectangle on all sides, and should come into the forground together. Both of those screens together show the shape of the object coming into the foreground at opposite angles, almost like the shape of a pentagon or a hexagon. That just might be cuz of the angle of the video as it shifts but if it's not then I don't think tis a pentagon shaped shelf but more like a pentagon shaped building/balcony.

so what does a shelf really feel like lol


A square. A rectangle. A Cube. This:

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Or

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Hm if it is a shelf it's missing some indents on the side, instead the indents appear to be inward...... I think I need to sleep o_o

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gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

okay nooow it looks like a shelf


I agree somewhat. But... It... I don't know! It doesn't have the feeling like a shelf - it feels like a building in the distance. But it could be a shelf - I don't know.


>< doesn't feel like a shelf......


Because its shape isn't indicitive of a shelf. A shelf is shaped like a rectangle on all sides, and should come into the forground together. Both of those screens together show the shape of the object coming into the foreground at opposite angles, almost like the shape of a pentagon or a hexagon. That just might be cuz of the angle of the video as it shifts but if it's not then I don't think tis a pentagon shaped shelf but more like a pentagon shaped building/balcony.

so what does a shelf really feel like lol


A square. A rectangle. A Cube. This:

Image IPB

Or

Image IPB


Okay I am going to stop cause my joke is so going over your head lol. Anwyay back later :P

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Rosewind wrote...


Okay I am going to stop cause my joke is so going over your head lol. Anwyay back later :P


No I got it I just wanted to try and stay a little more on topic :P

That breath scene's ambiguity bothers me, fresh eyes never hurt when tryign to pick apart the strange objects.

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gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Rosewind wrote...


Okay I am going to stop cause my joke is so going over your head lol. Anwyay back later :P


No I got it I just wanted to try and stay a little more on topic :P

That breath scene's ambiguity bothers me, fresh eyes never hurt when tryign to pick apart the strange objects.


IT or not, that breath scene (and the "one more story") suggest Bioware ain't done with Shepard yet. And that makes me happy-happy :D

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Deputy Secretary of Awesome wrote...

For anyone interested, I have a thread on a speculative variation on IT about whether Synthesis could mean something a little different than traditional indoctrination. Basically proposes Synthesis represents an "offer of negotiation" to Shepard from the Reapers.

Here's the thread link:
http://social.biowar.../index/12013315
Thought it might have more appeal or interest to people who follow IT, whereas IT deniers tend to dismiss it out of hand.

It's pretty purely speculative, but thought it was an interesting idea. Let me know what you guys think!


I really like this! Hell, it doesn't even change anything about already established IT Image IPB

That's an awesome name by the way Image IPB

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gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Rosewind wrote...


Okay I am going to stop cause my joke is so going over your head lol. Anwyay back later :P


No I got it I just wanted to try and stay a little more on topic :P

That breath scene's ambiguity bothers me, fresh eyes never hurt when tryign to pick apart the strange objects.


I had my one year old daughter look at it. [is that fresh enough?] she said it looks like "Ted-Ted!" mystery solved.