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[Uncle Jo]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...


The Rachni Queen I have a specific Idea for when it comes to the ending and IT. Basicly I theorize (or rather wish for) that the Rachni Queen could be a kind of "get out of Indoctrination card" if you have her alive and choose Control/Synthesis, using her ability of interacting with a beeing mind and her resistance to Indoctrination to give Shepard a way out. My idea was that it would cost her her life to get close enough to do it.

I have said this before as it fullfills the "the Rachni choice will have large impact in the ending" promise  and Adrian used it as part of his EC story idea.

But yeah i would also like to know what happens to her afterwards if she is alive. My guess is she goes to distant planet to recreate her species, but maybe now that she is public knowledge (eveyone who worked on the Crucible knows of her) the Alliance/Council might give the Rachni a to them habitable planet closer to civilization in order to keep an eye on them.

Yes I remember your theory. It included Javik's totem and Eve's crystal if I recall it good. They'll get a planet (or maybe more) and will be as you said under strict surveillance of the council. Same goes for the Krogan (+ siege in the Council) but it won't be that easy...

[MaximizedAction]

estebanus wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Holy hell! If you knew how much the Indoctrination war is raving outside this thread...

I'm just happy that this place kinda is a safe haven from everything else.

Shepard trying to clean up the nonsense outside of this thread:

Oh, Lex0r! You always find a way to cheer me up!
Femshep kicking ass is always a good way!

Now we only need Arians promised epic wallage of text and the week can end safely.

[Ytook]

Yeah, tried to defend and propose IT today, wasn't pleasant, (though to be fair I probably did a bad job of it)

[HyperGlass]

Ytook wrote...

Yeah, tried to defend and propose IT today, wasn't pleasant, (though to be fair I probably did a bad job of it)

I would have done far worse because I don't know everything about it still no one really cares about screwing up here as it s disscussion after all.

[balance5050]

Hating on Bioware seems to be all the rage, and when someone gives even the slightest inclination that there is some redeemable parts of the ending, the hate get's redirected to the messenger.

[paxxton]

lex0r11 wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Holy hell! If you knew how much the Indoctrination war is raving outside this thread...

I'm just happy that this place kinda is a safe haven from everything else.

Shepard trying to clean up the nonsense outside of this thread:

You shall find no nonsense here.  Now check out this awesome post signature!

Modifié par paxxton, 13 mai 2012 - 09:09 .

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

Uncle Jo wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...


The Rachni Queen I have a specific Idea for when it comes to the ending and IT. Basicly I theorize (or rather wish for) that the Rachni Queen could be a kind of "get out of Indoctrination card" if you have her alive and choose Control/Synthesis, using her ability of interacting with a beeing mind and her resistance to Indoctrination to give Shepard a way out. My idea was that it would cost her her life to get close enough to do it.

I have said this before as it fullfills the "the Rachni choice will have large impact in the ending" promise  and Adrian used it as part of his EC story idea.

But yeah i would also like to know what happens to her afterwards if she is alive. My guess is she goes to distant planet to recreate her species, but maybe now that she is public knowledge (eveyone who worked on the Crucible knows of her) the Alliance/Council might give the Rachni a to them habitable planet closer to civilization in order to keep an eye on them.

Yes I remember your theory. It included Javik's totem and Eve's crystal if I recall it good. They'll get a planet (or maybe more) and will be as you said under strict surveillance of the council. Same goes for the Krogan (+ siege in the Council) but it won't be that easy...

Off course it wont be easy, the galaxy still remembers the Rachni wars. But idd say helping stopping the Reapers at least earns them a chance even if the Council will probably insist on having them watched.

Personally I hope we at least get something minor on the Rachni in EC if they are alive in ones save as I am really fascinated by them and would love to learn more. While a race of intelligent space faring insects are nothing new in Sci-Fi, them not beeing enemies (even if they were) is not something seen often and what little we know of their culture and speech sounds really fascinating.

Just thinking out loud here, but a game set during the Rachni wars could be really coold not only for learning more about the Rachni but also for seeing the political debate and desperation which went ahead of uplifting the Krogan + actually having a Sci-Fi game where humanity is not included at all could be interesting.

Modifié par Raistlin Majare 1992, 13 mai 2012 - 09:05 .

[Emperor_Ike]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

Just thinking out loud here, but a game set during the Rachni wars could be really coold not only for learning more about the Rachni but also for seeing the political debate and desperation which went ahead of uplifting the Krogan + actually having a Sci-Fi game where humanity is not included at all could be interesting.

Saw a vid the other day of an engine one guy built himself that allows for space exploration and seamless planetary transitions. Fully rendered, full-planet terrain, beautiful water, starry skies, the whole bit. All I could think at the time was, "Civilization 6 and Mass Effect: Wars, please!"

First Contact, Rachni Wars, Krogan Rebellions, oh deary me!

[estebanus]

I got a message from a person named Arlina, and she would like to get an answer to this question:

"Hey, I dont know if it is mentioned before, but when you go to TIM base you watch a video of TIM getting a surgery (?) for his implants. But moments later when you enter his room and talk to him, there is nothing wrong with his face... and in the last scenes on the Citadel he is already having his facial scars... so... why he is looking well after the surgery and bad later? I dont get it."

[Rifneno]

While we're talking about stuff EC should add, that fake Weekes post did give one truly awesome idea. A scene where a Reaper destroyer gets swarmed by hundreds if not thousands of rachni who, rather than attacking it normally, disassemble it. That would be the greatest thing since Kalros. That must be seen.

Modifié par Rifneno, 13 mai 2012 - 09:13 .

[paxxton]

estebanus wrote...

I got a message from a person named Arlina, and she would like to get an answer to this question:

"Hey, I dont know if it is mentioned before, but when you go to TIM base you watch a video of TIM getting a surgery (?) for his implants. But moments later when you enter his room and talk to him, there is nothing wrong with his face... and in the last scenes on the Citadel he is already having his facial scars... so... why he is looking well after the surgery and bad later? I dont get it."

Good question. I also spotted that temporal contradiction. Can it mean that TIM on Cronos is a VI? Or the hallucinations affected only parts of Shepard's conciousness at that moment?

[Uncle Jo]

Rifneno wrote...

While we're talking about stuff EC should add, that fake Weekes post did give one truly awesome idea. A scene where a Reaper destroyer gets swarmed by hundreds if not thousands of rachni who, rather than attacking it normally, disassemble it. That would be the greatest thing since Kalros. That must be seen.

This. Pretty much my conception of a Rachni assault...

[Uncle Jo]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...


Off course it wont be easy, the galaxy still remembers the Rachni wars. But idd say helping stopping the Reapers at least earns them a chance even if the Council will probably insist on having them watched.

Personally I hope we at least get something minor on the Rachni in EC if they are alive in ones save as I am really fascinated by them and would love to learn more. While a race of intelligent space faring insects are nothing new in Sci-Fi, them not beeing enemies (even if they were) is not something seen often and what little we know of their culture and speech sounds really fascinating.

Just thinking out loud here, but a game set during the Rachni wars could be really coold not only for learning more about the Rachni but also for seeing the political debate and desperation which went ahead of uplifting the Krogan + actually having a Sci-Fi game where humanity is not included at all could be interesting.

We'll see them for sure. I'm not very fond of prequels so while I find your idea pretty neat, I'd prefer a sequel without Shep and with the Yahg as a new threat.

Modifié par Uncle Jo, 13 mai 2012 - 09:17 .

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

I got a message from a person named Arlina, and she would like to get an answer to this question:

"Hey, I dont know if it is mentioned before, but when you go to TIM base you watch a video of TIM getting a surgery (?) for his implants. But moments later when you enter his room and talk to him, there is nothing wrong with his face... and in the last scenes on the Citadel he is already having his facial scars... so... why he is looking well after the surgery and bad later? I dont get it."

Good question. I also spotted that temporal contradiction. Can it mean that TIM on Cronos is a VI? Or the hallucinations affected only parts of Shepard's conciousness at that moment?

I dont think it would be hard for TIM to make the hologram or what it is use his old face while he still spreaks through it.

But another possibility is that the implants were never as extreme as we see in the TIm/Anderson scene and that it is simply Shepard´s mind (or the Reapers) making changes to  TIM based on how Saren looked in the last encounter.

[Pkxm]

looks like many of you are asking for new endings. something bioware has already stated they are not doing

[nightcobra]

estebanus wrote...

I got a message from a person named Arlina, and she would like to get an answer to this question:

"Hey, I dont know if it is mentioned before, but when you go to TIM base you watch a video of TIM getting a surgery (?) for his implants. But moments later when you enter his room and talk to him, there is nothing wrong with his face... and in the last scenes on the Citadel he is already having his facial scars... so... why he is looking well after the surgery and bad later? I dont get it."

i'll try and look at these through a pro IT and anti IT perspective.

-pro IT- since this would be in shepard's mind we can surmise that this illusive man also emulates the saren confrontation as in saren was heavily modified with geth/reaper technology and the possibility of them taking their own lives.

-anti IT- since "huskification" developes faster when more adrenaline is produced, we can assume that it was a slow process for TIM since he's calm all the time, basically telling us that his adrenaline levels wouldn't be as high as would normal people's in this situation. 

[estebanus]

Rifneno wrote...

While we're talking about stuff EC should add, that fake Weekes post did give one truly awesome idea. A scene where a Reaper destroyer gets swarmed by hundreds if not thousands of rachni who, rather than attacking it normally, disassemble it. That would be the greatest thing since Kalros. That must be seen.

Oh god, YESSS!!! That would be unbelievably awesome!

Also, seeing Elcor march in to battle with minguns and rocket launchers on their backs, seeing geth fighters and quarian ships work together to take down a reaper...That would be some of the most epic moments I could imagine!

[nightcobra]

Jsxdf wrote...

looks like many of you are asking for new endings. something bioware has already stated they are not doing

it's arguing semantics, they said they would only add to the existent endings, If IT turns out to be true then the endings we got just need to be added to as they said. IT doesn't make a new ending required but rather expanded upon.

[estebanus]

Jsxdf wrote...

looks like many of you are asking for new endings. something bioware has already stated they are not doing

Errmmm... No we aren't.

What we're asking for is the extended cut to represent our choices much better. That does not equal wanting a new ending.

[paxxton]

estebanus wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

While we're talking about stuff EC should add, that fake Weekes post did give one truly awesome idea. A scene where a Reaper destroyer gets swarmed by hundreds if not thousands of rachni who, rather than attacking it normally, disassemble it. That would be the greatest thing since Kalros. That must be seen.

Oh god, YESSS!!! That would be unbelievably awesome!

Also, seeing Elcor march in to battle with minguns and rocket launchers on their backs, seeing geth fighters and quarian ships work together to take down a reaper...That would be some of the most epic moments I could imagine!

The Rachni were traitors.

Modifié par paxxton, 13 mai 2012 - 09:28 .

[lex0r11]

Jsxdf wrote...

looks like many of you are asking for new endings. something bioware has already stated they are not doing

[Harmonier]

Here is what I think,guys: Bioware deliberately put all the IT-evidence in the game, but didn’t want it to be canon,they had it as a back-up plan. They wanted both endings, the literal one and the IT-based one, to be legit.
But now, nobody is happy about the ending: we don’t know how the war ended and whether it did (since everything was a dream) and the IT-skeptics don’t like the stupid literal ending. I agree with Bioware, that the end should speak for itself, but the problem is – it doesn’t.

[nightcobra]

how about this for the Ending DLC:

the destroy ending would mean resisting the indocrination attempt, waking up and finishing the fight.

in the control, synthesis ending it would mean being indocrinated but for the people who picked this to have a fighting chance, how about a paragon/renegade interrupt during the credits to break free of the indocrination and do that suicide ending with the result being shepard doing something to take the reapers down with him/her?

[estebanus]

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

While we're talking about stuff EC should add, that fake Weekes post did give one truly awesome idea. A scene where a Reaper destroyer gets swarmed by hundreds if not thousands of rachni who, rather than attacking it normally, disassemble it. That would be the greatest thing since Kalros. That must be seen.

Oh god, YESSS!!! That would be unbelievably awesome!

Also, seeing Elcor march in to battle with minguns and rocket launchers on their backs, seeing geth fighters and quarian ships work together to take down a reaper...That would be some of the most epic moments I could imagine!

The Rachni were traitors.

That's because you killed the original queen off in ME1

[Uncle Jo]

paxxton wrote...


The Rachni were traitors.

Nope. Or did you kill the Rachni Queen in ME1 ?