Was the ending a hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory
#5651
Posté 13 mars 2012 - 01:03
#5652
Posté 13 mars 2012 - 01:03
Richard STIHL wrote...
sorry, english is my first language but i suck at and i dont care
1. endings leaked- bw came up with this little indoctrination ending to compensate
2. bw released space edition knowing people would blab. real ending coming so everyone would get it at the sametime (what a genius way to end a truly epis story like mass effest)
3. casey hudson said hold on to your saves. ending expansion pack (DA:O awakining style)
4. read the codex on indoctrination
5. infinite bullets
6. shepard waking up on earth
7. squad mates teleporting unharmed onto a normandy getting ready to jump through a relay
8. destroy being the renagede option (In dreams everthing is reversed.... also kinda explains 1m1)
9. gambles post about this being the hardest day ever.
10. guide book talks about secret ending possibly taken out. only to be given to us later.
11. kid dissapearing after you destroy
12. vega talking about humming
13. allmost killing virmire survivor
14. reapers hate you why would they tell you the truth. Read the art of war.
15. little kid is the catylist
16. EA likes money
17. trees magically appearing
18. sheps voiced under little boys
19. shep does not have a breathing mask on ( in mass effet 1 when your elevetor stops shep says "suit up" then you fight up the citidel tower
19.5 little kid smirks at you when you choos merge or control
20. EA aka rEApers like money
im not grasping at straws. more like grasping at pen15es
add if you have anyhting
21. God Kid only says "Wake Up" in a diferent tone if you have enough points for surviving the Destroy ending
22. God Kid speaks with both male & female sheps voice
I also have some pretty monor ones, like:
23. all bodies on the cidadel have a weird blank face
24. The way Anderson talks after you reach the cidadel is really weird too, one example is something like this:
Anderson: This looks like the collector's base from your descriptions!
Shep: Makes sense.
only it really...doesnt, i mean its the cidadel! when i first played (i didint knew this theory) this line really bother me, i was like: wtf shepard said that!?
Like i said, minor stuff
Modifié par 2_BR4ZIL_2, 13 mars 2012 - 01:05 .
#5653
Posté 13 mars 2012 - 01:04
FLYING GRENADE11 wrote...
We find the get infiltraitor to be a efficient model.xDarkspace wrote...
Geth do not infiltrate
#5654
Posté 13 mars 2012 - 01:04
Fledgey wrote...
Alright I posted this a minute ago but everybody ignored it. Saren's speech in mass effect 1 mirrors the "Synthesis" ending perfectly just as TIM's speech mirrors "Control". Here's saren's speech:
"The relationship is symbiotic. Organic and machine intertwined. A union of flesh and steel. The strengths of both, and the weaknesses of neither. I am a vision of the future, Shepard. The evolution of all organic life. This is our destiny. Join Sovereign and experience a true rebirth."
That does fit remarkably well with the synth ending. Good memory on saren's speech
#5655
Posté 13 mars 2012 - 01:05
Rompa87-2 wrote...
Is there a public holiday in Canada today? Can't really see much activity from any BW employees on the forums?
Nope- today is a regular day
#5656
Posté 13 mars 2012 - 01:06
#5657
Posté 13 mars 2012 - 01:06
rogueagent6 wrote...
MordiMoro wrote...
Ok... but the ending?
It's not the end if you make the correct choice.
Cut because the game was not ready, or ME4?
#5658
Posté 13 mars 2012 - 01:06
vrumpt wrote...
FrostByte-GER wrote...
Also...has anybody noticed, that the godchild says "wake up" only on high ems scores? I heared in my ending(3000ems) "Why are you here" there was no "wake up". Now I watched the best ending on YT. The child says "wake up".
But now, watch this: www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlyGL9Cqsxw#t=08m40s
And compare it with this vid:
Heared it? Another proof for the indoctrination theory!!!
WoW! I was kinda wary on the indoctrination theory up until this point. Until now I was just taking everything as an unfortunate coincidence at the fault of bad writing. This is pretty significant evidence though. If we can get a confirmation that "wake up" only happens with high enough EMS score then this theory is as good as proved.
I'll try it tomorrow(ah I mean today xD) after school. Now its too late to experiment with this EMS hack...
I sent an PM to byne too with this information. Stay tuned
#5659
Posté 13 mars 2012 - 01:07
#5660
Posté 13 mars 2012 - 01:07
Miss Vader wrote...
Rompa87-2 wrote...
Is there a public holiday in Canada today? Can't really see much activity from any BW employees on the forums?
Nope- today is a regular day
I see
#5661
Posté 13 mars 2012 - 01:07
byne wrote...
Ok, just finished my Insanity playthrough, and I noticed a few things I didnt notice before:
1) When you first arrive on the Citadel after the beam hits you, when you talk to Anderson over the radio, Shepard never puts her hand to her ear like she does every other time she's talked on the radio before. She also doesnt do it when talking to Hackett
2) If you look at the background while talking with TIM, you can see cars moving and stuff in the background, like people are just going about their regular day inside a Reaper controlled Citadel orbiting Earth. You think they'd try to leave, or hide, or something.
Those two I admit dont really prove anything, but the third one is what interested me:
3) When Shepard takes her breath in the living ending, it doesnt seem like the 'Oh god I'm near death' gasping for breath you'd expect. It sounds a whole lot more like the surprised gasp she makes whenever she wakes up from the kid nightmares.
I never notived that Shepard doesn't but their hand to their ear to talk to Anderson and Hackett, and again with the surprised gasp, nice catch.
#5662
Posté 13 mars 2012 - 01:07
At the Catalyst you can see that TIM chose for Control and Anderson chose for Destroy.
Which would make sense because, TIM seems Indoctrinated at the Citadel Console and Anderson is still the same.
That would equal;
TIM = Indoctrinated = Control = Shepard Indoctrinated/Fails
Anderson = Normal = Destroy = Shepard Wins
#5663
Posté 13 mars 2012 - 01:07
Fledgey wrote...
Alright I posted this a minute ago but everybody ignored it. Saren's speech in mass effect 1 mirrors the "Synthesis" ending perfectly just as TIM's speech mirrors "Control". Here's saren's speech:
"The relationship is symbiotic. Organic and machine intertwined. A union of flesh and steel. The strengths of both, and the weaknesses of neither. I am a vision of the future, Shepard. The evolution of all organic life. This is our destiny. Join Sovereign and experience a true rebirth."
Right, that's why choosing synthesis is seen as losing your resolve as well.
Someone said this earlier:
Control- You become The Illusive Man
Synthesize- You become Saren
Destroy- You remain Shepard
#5664
Posté 13 mars 2012 - 01:07
I could check right now, though I don't know how I'd check something like that.Kumekerion wrote...
Again what if the true ending is on the disk and we can't access it until the appointed time? Has anyone tried changing the clocks of their devices to check?
#5665
Posté 13 mars 2012 - 01:07
Rompa87-2 wrote...
Miss Vader wrote...
Rompa87-2 wrote...
Is there a public holiday in Canada today? Can't really see much activity from any BW employees on the forums?
Nope- today is a regular day
I see
well it is the march break:)
#5666
Posté 13 mars 2012 - 01:08
Deltateam Elcor wrote...
vrumpt wrote...
FrostByte-GER wrote...
Also...has anybody noticed, that the godchild says "wake up" only on high ems scores? I heared in my ending(3000ems) "Why are you here" there was no "wake up". Now I watched the best ending on YT. The child says "wake up".
But now, watch this: www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlyGL9Cqsxw#t=08m40s
And compare it with this vid:
Heared it? Another proof for the indoctrination theory!!!
WoW! I was kinda wary on the indoctrination theory up until this point. Until now I was just taking everything as an unfortunate coincidence at the fault of bad writing. This is pretty significant evidence though. If we can get a confirmation that "wake up" only happens with high enough EMS score then this theory is as good as proved.
Pretty sure its just Paragon differences.
No, I had maxed out paragon! There was no "wake up"
#5667
Posté 13 mars 2012 - 01:08
http://dl.dropbox.co...m_D_Int.033.ogg
If Bioware really planned all this out...
Jeez. This would be the most gutsy move ever pulled by a company that I can think of.
#5668
Posté 13 mars 2012 - 01:08
FrostByte-GER wrote...
Also...has anybody noticed, that the godchild says "wake up" only on high ems scores? I heared in my ending(3000ems) "Why are you here" there was no "wake up". Now I watched the best ending on YT. The child says "wake up".
But now, watch this: www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlyGL9Cqsxw#t=08m40s
And compare it with this vid:
Heared it? Another proof for the indoctrination theory!!!
When catalyst says wake up i can hear talis voice saying wake up behind it.
#5669
Posté 13 mars 2012 - 01:08
ReclaimedHavoc wrote...
I could check right now, though I don't know how I'd check something like that.Kumekerion wrote...
Again what if the true ending is on the disk and we can't access it until the appointed time? Has anyone tried changing the clocks of their devices to check?
XBOX clock can be changed in online mode
edit: offline mode
Modifié par Kumekerion, 13 mars 2012 - 01:10 .
#5670
Posté 13 mars 2012 - 01:08
@BioEvilChris Would it be too much if I asked you something since you work at BioWare? It's not ****ing about ME3.
@KenRaves Shoot, I may not be able to answer, but I'll try.
@BioEvilChris During the final run, just before the end, are the two squadmates with you killed? I understand if you can't answer.
@KenRaves I don't think we've revealed that yet. Sorry.
#5671
Posté 13 mars 2012 - 01:08
I think it has to do with the EMS rating.FrostByte-GER wrote...
Deltateam Elcor wrote...
vrumpt wrote...
FrostByte-GER wrote...
Also...has anybody noticed, that the godchild says "wake up" only on high ems scores? I heared in my ending(3000ems) "Why are you here" there was no "wake up". Now I watched the best ending on YT. The child says "wake up".
But now, watch this: www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlyGL9Cqsxw#t=08m40s
And compare it with this vid:
Heared it? Another proof for the indoctrination theory!!!
WoW! I was kinda wary on the indoctrination theory up until this point. Until now I was just taking everything as an unfortunate coincidence at the fault of bad writing. This is pretty significant evidence though. If we can get a confirmation that "wake up" only happens with high enough EMS score then this theory is as good as proved.
Pretty sure its just Paragon differences.
No, I had maxed out paragon! There was no "wake up"
#5672
Posté 13 mars 2012 - 01:09
De1ta G wrote...
FLYING GRENADE11 wrote...
We find the get infiltraitor to be a efficient model.xDarkspace wrote...
Geth do not infiltrate
Geth do not intentionally infiltrate,
#5673
Posté 13 mars 2012 - 01:09
Rompa87-2 wrote...
Is there a public holiday in Canada today? Can't really see much activity from any BW employees on the forums?
They're probally having damage control meetings all day to try to come up with a public response.
#5674
Posté 13 mars 2012 - 01:09
2_BR4ZIL_2 wrote...
Richard STIHL wrote...
sorry, english is my first language but i suck at and i dont care
1. endings leaked- bw came up with this little indoctrination ending to compensate
2. bw released space edition knowing people would blab. real ending coming so everyone would get it at the sametime (what a genius way to end a truly epis story like mass effest)
3. casey hudson said hold on to your saves. ending expansion pack (DA:O awakining style)
4. read the codex on indoctrination
5. infinite bullets
6. shepard waking up on earth
7. squad mates teleporting unharmed onto a normandy getting ready to jump through a relay
8. destroy being the renagede option (In dreams everthing is reversed.... also kinda explains 1m1)
9. gambles post about this being the hardest day ever.
10. guide book talks about secret ending possibly taken out. only to be given to us later.
11. kid dissapearing after you destroy
12. vega talking about humming
13. allmost killing virmire survivor
14. reapers hate you why would they tell you the truth. Read the art of war.
15. little kid is the catylist
16. EA likes money
17. trees magically appearing
18. sheps voiced under little boys
19. shep does not have a breathing mask on ( in mass effet 1 when your elevetor stops shep says "suit up" then you fight up the citidel tower
19.5 little kid smirks at you when you choos merge or control
20. EA aka rEApers like money
im not grasping at straws. more like grasping at pen15es
add if you have anyhting
21. God Kid only says "Wake Up" in a diferent tone if you have enough points for surviving the Destroy ending
22. God Kid speaks with both male & female sheps voice
I also have some pretty monor ones, like:
23. all bodies on the cidadel have a weird blank face
24. The way Anderson talks after you reach the cidadel is really weird too, one example is something like this:
Anderson: This looks like the collector's base from your descriptions!
Shep: Makes sense.
only it really...doesnt, i mean its the cidadel! when i first played (i didint knew this theory) this line really bother me, i was like: wtf shepard said that!?
Like i said, minor stuff
Why is this list making some sense to me? Am I being dilussional now?
#5675
Posté 13 mars 2012 - 01:09
I know, I meant as in, do I just play the ending again and pray for something?Kumekerion wrote...
ReclaimedHavoc wrote...
I could check right now, though I don't know how I'd check something like that.Kumekerion wrote...
Again what if the true ending is on the disk and we can't access it until the appointed time? Has anyone tried changing the clocks of their devices to check?
XBOX clock can be changed in online mode
Modifié par ReclaimedHavoc, 13 mars 2012 - 01:11 .




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