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#56776
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 Or maybe it was this one, my bad. The reaper version of the kid laughing from the dream background noise:
www.youtube.com/watch

An interesting comment from that other video:
"The child talking clips for the three dreams: 1st dream: "Help Me!" 2nd dream: "Everyone's Dying!" 3rd dream: "Please Come Home"Now that last one is curious. Didn't remember it from the dialogue, and this is before Shepard knows that the citadel will be headed back to earth. Shepard is going home almost immediately after the dream child tells him to.Well, Indoctrination is a form of suggestion..."

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#56777
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Meatus wrote...

 Or maybe it was this one, my bad. The reaper version of the kid laughing from the dream background noise:
www.youtube.com/watch


I'm not clicking on anything today anymore. I'm even afraid to go to 9gag, because some idiot might have posted a shadowlurker image.

#56778
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TSA_383 wrote...

*snip*

Uncle Jo wrote...

The
"embrace eternity"  with Liara was one of the most beautiful moments of
the game. But I really don't want to know what it exactly was, just in
this case I leave it to my own imagination
 [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/grin.png[/smilie]
I'd add the goodbye of Grunt ("thanks for getting me out of the tank" tht's so him).

A scene with Garrus and Shep drinking a cocktail on a beach with a dead
Reaper in the backgroud would be nice. I'm more interested (besides IT
proven true or not) in cutscenes of your War assets, what became of the
Rachni queen and especially the purpose of the Crucible. I can't rest
till I know what it really was...


Why do I get the odd feeling that it'll end up having something to do with Shepard being able to survive indoctrination?

*snip*


No, please no. I'll agree on everything but not that. Even if you're right, even if the IT'd depend on it. This moment has to be what it was, nothing more, nothing less.

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Meatus wrote...

 Or maybe it was this one, my bad. The reaper version of the kid laughing from the dream background noise:
www.youtube.com/watch

If you tweak the sound files a bit you can hear words from amongst the reaper noises.
I posted a zip of sound files a few hundred pages back:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/tppzn0

#56780
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Meatus wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Oh holy f*ck I was just reading the "weird noises on the Normandy"-thread and suddenly my right ear started to ring I nearly sh*t myself


Hahah! Did you watch the videos people linked with the background noises in the dreams, and the kid laughing, then the reaper-version of his laugh!? That was LITERALLY the creepiest thing I have ever heard. 

Start at 6:51 www.youtube.com/watch
I about freakin' died listening to that; I have never been so paranoid, hahah.


I JUST HEARD PLEASE COME HOME!!!!  HOLY ####!!!!

#56781
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Uncle Jo wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

*snip*

Uncle Jo wrote...

The
"embrace eternity"  with Liara was one of the most beautiful moments of
the game. But I really don't want to know what it exactly was, just in
this case I leave it to my own imagination
 Posted Image
I'd add the goodbye of Grunt ("thanks for getting me out of the tank" tht's so him).

A scene with Garrus and Shep drinking a cocktail on a beach with a dead
Reaper in the backgroud would be nice. I'm more interested (besides IT
proven true or not) in cutscenes of your War assets, what became of the
Rachni queen and especially the purpose of the Crucible. I can't rest
till I know what it really was...


Why do I get the odd feeling that it'll end up having something to do with Shepard being able to survive indoctrination?

*snip*


No, please no. I'll agree on everything but not that. Even if you're right, even if the IT'd depend on it. This moment has to be what it was, nothing more, nothing less.




the garrus on beach with shepard and a cocktail is what I wanted too

#56782
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Rifneno wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Why do I get the feeling that Ash,Liara,Garrus,or Kadien will die in the extended cut.


Liara and Garrus: <Sten> No. </Sten>
Ashhole and the most boring being in existence: I doubt it, but here's hoping.


Wow, that's a good pun.  Too bad I disagree with you completely. ;)  Also, I like Kaidan, although I like Jacob too, so that might void my opinion.

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Uncle Jo wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

Uncle Jo wrote...

The
"embrace eternity"  with Liara was one of the most beautiful moments of
the game. But I really don't want to know what it exactly was, just in
this case I leave it to my own imagination
 [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/grin.png[/smilie]

Why do I get the odd feeling that it'll end up having something to do with Shepard being able to survive indoctrination?

No, please no. I'll agree on everything but not that. Even if you're right, even if the IT'd depend on it. This moment has to be what it was, nothing more, nothing less.

Hmm, Benezia figured out how to compartmentalize part of her mind to unlock at a crucial moment, makes sense that Liara could reverse engineer that method into something she could "plant" in Shep's head, just saying :D

Modifié par Nauks, 13 mai 2012 - 11:56 .


#56784
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Nauks wrote...

Uncle Jo wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

*snip*

Uncle Jo wrote...

The
"embrace eternity"  with Liara was one of the most beautiful moments of
the game. But I really don't want to know what it exactly was, just in
this case I leave it to my own imagination
 [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/grin.png[/smilie]
I'd add the goodbye of Grunt ("thanks for getting me out of the tank" tht's so him).

A scene with Garrus and Shep drinking a cocktail on a beach with a dead
Reaper in the backgroud would be nice. I'm more interested (besides IT
proven true or not) in cutscenes of your War assets, what became of the
Rachni queen and especially the purpose of the Crucible. I can't rest
till I know what it really was...


Why do I get the odd feeling that it'll end up having something to do with Shepard being able to survive indoctrination?

*snip*

No, please no. I'll agree on everything but not that. Even if you're right, even if the IT'd depend on it. This moment has to be what it was, nothing more, nothing less.

Hmm, Benezia figured out how to compartmentalize part of her mind to unlock at a crucial moment, makes sense that Liara could reverse engineer that method into something she could "plant" in Shep's head, just saying :D


Yes, you're right, but no I disagree.

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Dwailing wrote...

Meatus wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Oh holy f*ck I was just reading the "weird noises on the Normandy"-thread and suddenly my right ear started to ring I nearly sh*t myself


Hahah! Did you watch the videos people linked with the background noises in the dreams, and the kid laughing, then the reaper-version of his laugh!? That was LITERALLY the creepiest thing I have ever heard. 

Start at 6:51 www.youtube.com/watch
I about freakin' died listening to that; I have never been so paranoid, hahah.


I JUST HEARD PLEASE COME HOME!!!!  HOLY ####!!!!

I love it when my videos provoke this kind of response :lol:
If you want more mind****ery I've pulled some sound files from the game which are here: http://www.sendspace.com/file/tppzn0

But it's still got NOTHING on this:

TSA_383 wrote...

Dantexr3 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Dantexr3 wrote...

I
have just recorded the kid laugh at Garrus room, but with FRAPS and 30
seconds it weights like 300 mb. You know of a better recording tool for
pc?


OMG I can't wait for this!!!

You can get Handbrake to condence the file size if that helps.

http://handbrake.fr/ 


Thanks!!

Here's the video:

http://www.youtube.c...ture=youtu.be#!

I've
put a replay button at the description just at the moment of the laugh.
It's between seconds 00:01 and 00:02. You have to listen to it with
headphones and full volume.

Holy **** [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/surprised.png[/smilie]
That's one of the laughter sounds from the dream files - it's calling sound files from the dream folder to use in gameplay...

Now that IS interesting [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/wondering.png[/smilie]


HOLY ****ING HELL BATMAN

#56786
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Ok it's 2 am and I should really go to bed

BUT THIS IS ALL SO INTERESTING :(

#56787
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TSA_383 wrote...

Dantexr3 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Dantexr3 wrote...

I
have just recorded the kid laugh at Garrus room, but with FRAPS and 30
seconds it weights like 300 mb. You know of a better recording tool for
pc?


OMG I can't wait for this!!!

You can get Handbrake to condence the file size if that helps.

http://handbrake.fr/ 


Thanks!!

Here's the video:

http://www.youtube.c...ture=youtu.be#!

I've
put a replay button at the description just at the moment of the laugh.
It's between seconds 00:01 and 00:02. You have to listen to it with
headphones and full volume.

Holy **** [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/surprised.png[/smilie]
That's one of the laughter sounds from the dream files - it's calling sound files from the dream folder to use in gameplay...

Now that IS interesting [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/wondering.png[/smilie]


I don't understand why other people can hear laughing, and I can't! :(
It's probably my super duper crappy speakers, but I turned them up all the way, and it sounds more like the "insect" noise people have been describing in the main battery.

Modifié par Meatus, 14 mai 2012 - 12:15 .


#56788
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Dwailing wrote...

Meatus wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Oh holy f*ck I was just reading the "weird noises on the Normandy"-thread and suddenly my right ear started to ring I nearly sh*t myself


Hahah! Did you watch the videos people linked with the background noises in the dreams, and the kid laughing, then the reaper-version of his laugh!? That was LITERALLY the creepiest thing I have ever heard. 

Start at 6:51 www.youtube.com/watch
I about freakin' died listening to that; I have never been so paranoid, hahah.


I JUST HEARD PLEASE COME HOME!!!!  HOLY ####!!!!


Who is the character that says 'with war on everyone's minds our people are on edge' at the 5 minuet mark?

#56789
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TSA_383 wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Meatus wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Oh holy f*ck I was just reading the "weird noises on the Normandy"-thread and suddenly my right ear started to ring I nearly sh*t myself


Hahah! Did you watch the videos people linked with the background noises in the dreams, and the kid laughing, then the reaper-version of his laugh!? That was LITERALLY the creepiest thing I have ever heard. 

Start at 6:51 www.youtube.com/watch
I about freakin' died listening to that; I have never been so paranoid, hahah.


I JUST HEARD PLEASE COME HOME!!!!  HOLY ####!!!!

I love it when my videos provoke this kind of response :lol:
If you want more mind****ery I've pulled some sound files from the game which are here: http://www.sendspace.com/file/tppzn0

But it's still got NOTHING on this:

TSA_383 wrote...

Dantexr3 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Dantexr3 wrote...

I
have just recorded the kid laugh at Garrus room, but with FRAPS and 30
seconds it weights like 300 mb. You know of a better recording tool for
pc?


OMG I can't wait for this!!!

You can get Handbrake to condence the file size if that helps.

http://handbrake.fr/ 


Thanks!!

Here's the video:

http://www.youtube.c...ture=youtu.be#!

I've
put a replay button at the description just at the moment of the laugh.
It's between seconds 00:01 and 00:02. You have to listen to it with
headphones and full volume.

Holy **** [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/surprised.png[/smilie]
That's one of the laughter sounds from the dream files - it's calling sound files from the dream folder to use in gameplay...

Now that IS interesting [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/wondering.png[/smilie]


HOLY ****ING HELL BATMAN


I didn't hear the kid's regular laugh, but I heard what sounded like the Reaper sounds from the dreams.  If those are what you are refering to, then I will quote myself, "HOLY ####!!!!"

#56790
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Ytook wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Meatus wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Oh holy f*ck I was just reading the "weird noises on the Normandy"-thread and suddenly my right ear started to ring I nearly sh*t myself


Hahah! Did you watch the videos people linked with the background noises in the dreams, and the kid laughing, then the reaper-version of his laugh!? That was LITERALLY the creepiest thing I have ever heard. 

Start at 6:51 www.youtube.com/watch
I about freakin' died listening to that; I have never been so paranoid, hahah.


I JUST HEARD PLEASE COME HOME!!!!  HOLY ####!!!!


Who is the character that says 'with war on everyone's minds our people are on edge' at the 5 minuet mark?


I think that's Padok Wiks.

#56791
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Ok. I definately need to get the f*ck to sleep now. Earthborn Shepard out. I hope when I wake up you will have found teh awesomz evidence.

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Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Ok. I definately need to get the f*ck to sleep now. Earthborn Shepard out. I hope when I wake up you will have found teh awesomz evidence.


See ya!

Modifié par Dwailing, 14 mai 2012 - 12:23 .


#56793
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So this is a little off subject from the whole weird sound topic (which is very interesting), but is anyone else getting a little fed up with the people that like or are okay with the ending pretty much saying that we have no imagination, yet we support the indoctrination theory that is full of imagination and clues throughout the game?  I mean this isn't God of War 3 where the only question we had was if Kratos lived, or Halo 3, where the only question that wasn't answered was what new planet is it at the end.  The amount of plotholes and inconsistencies with the endings makes it extremely hard to come up with a logical and satisfying outcome.  I mean we're not idiots, we just really love these games, and want the truth right?  No matter what the truth is. And when the hell is Bioware going to discuss the ending with us like they said they would.  E3?  Comic-Con?  Just venting, sorry.

Modifié par Fear_Raptor, 14 mai 2012 - 12:32 .


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Rifneno wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Why do I get the feeling that Ash,Liara,Garrus,or Kadien will die in the extended cut.


Liara and Garrus: <Sten> No. </Sten>
Ashhole and the most boring being in existence: I doubt it, but here's hoping.


NO I lovegarrus and liara is cool too

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Has anyone tried to see if the whispers are saying anything like when you wake up at the end?

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In the words of the incomparable Mushu,
" I LIVE!"

Wall of text to come later, got 60+ pages of catching up to do, and I see ALOT of good stuff.

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Ok it's 2 am and I should really go to bed

BUT THIS IS ALL SO INTERESTING :(


That's nothing, stayed up until 6AM once because you guys wouldn't let me sleep.

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OnelShot wrote...

Has anyone tried to see if the whispers are saying anything like when you wake up at the end?


its hard to hear but I think I hear someone say my name "Shepard", that is if your talking about when TIM comes in behind shepard.

Modifié par KevShep, 14 mai 2012 - 12:39 .


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OnelShot wrote...

Has anyone tried to see if the whispers are saying anything like when you wake up at the end?

In the "Shep lives" scene?

There's wind noise (meaning earth, not citadel) and what could be slightly muffled reaper noises...

#56799
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TSA_383 wrote...

OnelShot wrote...

Has anyone tried to see if the whispers are saying anything like when you wake up at the end?

In the "Shep lives" scene?

There's wind noise (meaning earth, not citadel) and what could be slightly muffled reaper noises...


It would be funny if Shepard was talking in his/her sleep in the red ending then took a gasp of air.

#56800
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Fear_Raptor wrote...

So this is a little off subject from the whole weird sound topic (which is very interesting), but is anyone else getting a little fed up with the people that like or are okay with the ending pretty much saying that we have no imagination, yet we support the indoctrination theory that is full of imagination and clues throughout the game?


Meh. Let 'em rage. There's nothing you can do about the internet's capacity to let people anonymously pose knee-jerk arguments.  All you can do is not lower yourself to another level, present your arguments calmly and cogently, and try not to let your own anonymity contort your point-of-view.  

I talk the way I do in person, as if the things I say here would be accontable in a real-world environment.  Many online don't.  Yes, it's unfortunately that people are saying that a resourceful, intuitive idea-in-motion like BioWare exploiting indoctrination is void of imagination, and interpreting as such isn't creative, but all you can do is stick to your own internal guns.

And when the hell is Bioware going to discuss the ending with us like they said they would.  E3?  Comic-Con?  Just venting, sorry.


The wise move---in my opinion---would have been to deliver the extended cut before E3, and discuss it there.  Now? I have no idea, but I sincerely hope they're fleshing out some form of game plan, because ME3's reputation is going to hang over any presence they have there.  

Modifié par dreamgazer, 14 mai 2012 - 01:21 .