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#5726
MrWahloh

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Sl4sh3r wrote...

ReclaimedHavoc wrote...

Sl4sh3r wrote...

Kumekerion wrote...

Again what if the true ending is on the disk and we can't access it until the appointed time? Has anyone tried changing the clocks of their devices to check?


It's most likely more complicated than that...

Can you change the time/date on the Xbox 360 and PS3?

If not, I have a theory...

What's the theory?
And you can change it while offline. I threw the date to max(2025)
Thought I doubt anything will come of it.
I'm testing it now.


Well my theory was this:

PC requires an Internet Connection. If the true ending, assuming there is one, was to be released at a certain data/time, I'm sure it would need to double check that it was sync'd with Internet Time.

Since Xbox 360 and PS3 do not need to be connected to the internet to play I assumed that it didn't matter because you couldn't change date/time anyway.

However, you can change the date and time (which should have been obvious to me), so my theory is invalid.


They will not release it on a Date/Time basis. If they did you should have the data in your installation folder, which is impossible because datamines would have found it.

It'll probably be a DLC or Patch.

#5727
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smah wrote...

I've also seen a lot of ppl mention Vega and the humming. Can anybody post a video or audio clip, or at the very least what Vega actually SAYS.

It's something like:  Do you hear the humming or is it just me?
I took this as Vega being annoyed with Shepard wanted to talk again.... But I like the idea on here better.

#5728
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Bfler wrote...

In the last dream sequence before the attack on Cerberus Shepard finds himself and the child burning. What could that mean?

That the little boy will be your undoing.

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ReclaimedHavoc wrote...

smah wrote...

I've also seen a lot of ppl mention Vega and the humming. Can anybody post a video or audio clip, or at the very least what Vega actually SAYS.

"Do you hear that hum? Is that just me?"
He says it if you click him for dialogue a lot.


I remember it clearly in my playthrough as well but I can't get him to say it again. Anyone have a vid?

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JediNg wrote...

panamakira wrote...

Why is this list making some sense to me? Am I being dilussional now?

:alien:

You are being indoctrinated.


I thought so. As long as I see hope hope in the horizon.

#5731
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In case it hasn't been done yet
Creating a fake ending? Heavy risk....But the priiize!

#5732
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We all just want a happy ending like this really. Pretty much something along the lines of this http://4thofeleven.l...om/155948.html.

I really really wanted to have that drink with Dr. Chakwas heck I wanted to go to the purgatory and buy the first round of drinks and just see the impact I had on the world. I think we had at least earned that much after sinking at LEAST 100 hours in these games. I also wouldn't mind doing more stuff for the galaxy we could finally use that SPECTRE status for something, rather than the usual 'oohh you're not a SPECTRE' rubbish. And what about our LI I wanted to see Shepard settling down!

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I was wondering about one thing, lets say this is all true and Bioware is "Trolling" us and will release/unlock the true ending....

What does that say about all the people stating that the current ending is fine the way it is?... Who really got trolled then? and what does that say about some gamers that are OK with the way it was?

Food for thought............

#5734
JediNg

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Someone's post just made me think of something - the child burning, you and the child burning, and the idea that the big contraption is called the 'crucible'
More funny wordplay than evidence is what I mean.

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I posted most everything about the indoctrination theory here http://social.biowar...41728/1#9841728

Made it pretty neat and tidy. Let me know if i missed something, or made a huge boo-boo here and there.

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HOLD ON! I just played throught the ending and decided to end with destroy. But I didn't see any last breath of shepard?!
Did I miss something?

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ReclaimedHavoc wrote...

smah wrote...

I've also seen a lot of ppl mention Vega and the humming. Can anybody post a video or audio clip, or at the very least what Vega actually SAYS.

"Do you hear that hum? Is that just me?"
He says it if you click him for dialogue a lot.


Thanks, but considering he's in the shuttle bay, and he's VEGA, I wouldn't put TOO much thought into it. He might just be hearing the ship or the engines or something =/

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FrostByte-GER wrote...

Also...has anybody noticed, that the godchild says "wake up" only on high ems scores? I heared in my ending(3000ems) "Why are you here" there was no "wake up". Now I watched the best ending on YT. The child says "wake up".

But now, watch this: www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlyGL9Cqsxw#t=08m40s
And compare it with this vid:

Heared it? Another proof for the indoctrination theory!!!



I seriously got chills from that. He sounds VERY angry with you for not being prepared! :?

#5739
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MrWahloh wrote...

Sl4sh3r wrote...

ReclaimedHavoc wrote...

Sl4sh3r wrote...

Kumekerion wrote...

Again what if the true ending is on the disk and we can't access it until the appointed time? Has anyone tried changing the clocks of their devices to check?


It's most likely more complicated than that...

Can you change the time/date on the Xbox 360 and PS3?

If not, I have a theory...

What's the theory?
And you can change it while offline. I threw the date to max(2025)
Thought I doubt anything will come of it.
I'm testing it now.


Well my theory was this:

PC requires an Internet Connection. If the true ending, assuming there is one, was to be released at a certain data/time, I'm sure it would need to double check that it was sync'd with Internet Time.

Since Xbox 360 and PS3 do not need to be connected to the internet to play I assumed that it didn't matter because you couldn't change date/time anyway.

However, you can change the date and time (which should have been obvious to me), so my theory is invalid.


They will not release it on a Date/Time basis. If they did you should have the data in your installation folder, which is impossible because datamines would have found it.

It'll probably be a DLC or Patch.


Only problem with that is...

Not everyone has or uses the internet when they game.

Why would they risk it?

#5740
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Dougremer wrote...

HOLD ON! I just played throught the ending and decided to end with destroy. But I didn't see any last breath of shepard?!
Did I miss something?


You need a high ems score - i think it is 4 or 5k.

Modifié par Fattness132, 13 mars 2012 - 01:21 .


#5741
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Pojingu wrote...

https://twitter.com/...328119042347009 



I really think thats just the ME twitter saying he thinks he's being tricked to saying something he probably shouldn't.

#5742
ReclaimedHavoc

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MrWahloh wrote...

Sl4sh3r wrote...

ReclaimedHavoc wrote...

Sl4sh3r wrote...

Kumekerion wrote...

Again what if the true ending is on the disk and we can't access it until the appointed time? Has anyone tried changing the clocks of their devices to check?


It's most likely more complicated than that...

Can you change the time/date on the Xbox 360 and PS3?

If not, I have a theory...

What's the theory?
And you can change it while offline. I threw the date to max(2025)
Thought I doubt anything will come of it.
I'm testing it now.


Well my theory was this:

PC requires an Internet Connection. If the true ending, assuming there is one, was to be released at a certain data/time, I'm sure it would need to double check that it was sync'd with Internet Time.

Since Xbox 360 and PS3 do not need to be connected to the internet to play I assumed that it didn't matter because you couldn't change date/time anyway.

However, you can change the date and time (which should have been obvious to me), so my theory is invalid.


They will not release it on a Date/Time basis. If they did you should have the data in your installation folder, which is impossible because datamines would have found it.

It'll probably be a DLC or Patch.

Eh. It won't let me play online because I have From Ashes. So even if I wanted to, I can't check it.

#5743
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I hope it is not like before the game officially released where everyone was taking the smallest thing and hoping that the endings were not what they turned out to be.

However, I so hope this is it. It does seem that the whole point of the series was to stop the reapers. However, the only way to truly stop them from doing this again..........is to destroy them. Shepard destroyed a Relay and an entire Batarian system in Arrival if it meant stopping the Reapers. After them killing so many innocent people,in Arrival and then when they attacked in earnest in ME3, your damn right Shepard will destroy the bastards!!!!

That seems right. I hope this is the case and Harbinger was trying to indoctrinate him and there is still more to the game Bioware hasn't released yet. I will still be pissed at them but more relieved than anything.

#5744
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It would however be quite weird if this theory is acurate, and not a single BW employee comes onto the forums and say: "Hold out, guys. You might be in for a surprise :devil:"

If there indeed is more to the ending, it would be rather dickish to be completely silent on the matter, when they could do some crowd control

#5745
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Dougremer wrote...

HOLD ON! I just played throught the ending and decided to end with destroy. But I didn't see any last breath of shepard?!
Did I miss something?


You probably didn't have enough EMS

#5746
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Dougremer wrote...

HOLD ON! I just played throught the ending and decided to end with destroy. But I didn't see any last breath of shepard?!
Did I miss something?


Gotta have 5000 EMS (or 4000 if you do every persuade option with TIM)

#5748
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Scottish_highlander wrote...

In case it hasn't been done yet
Creating a fake ending? Heavy risk....But the priiize!


:D was waiting for that one!

#5749
ReclaimedHavoc

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Sl4sh3r wrote...

MrWahloh wrote...

Sl4sh3r wrote...

ReclaimedHavoc wrote...

Sl4sh3r wrote...

Kumekerion wrote...

Again what if the true ending is on the disk and we can't access it until the appointed time? Has anyone tried changing the clocks of their devices to check?


It's most likely more complicated than that...

Can you change the time/date on the Xbox 360 and PS3?

If not, I have a theory...

What's the theory?
And you can change it while offline. I threw the date to max(2025)
Thought I doubt anything will come of it.
I'm testing it now.


Well my theory was this:

PC requires an Internet Connection. If the true ending, assuming there is one, was to be released at a certain data/time, I'm sure it would need to double check that it was sync'd with Internet Time.

Since Xbox 360 and PS3 do not need to be connected to the internet to play I assumed that it didn't matter because you couldn't change date/time anyway.

However, you can change the date and time (which should have been obvious to me), so my theory is invalid.


They will not release it on a Date/Time basis. If they did you should have the data in your installation folder, which is impossible because datamines would have found it.

It'll probably be a DLC or Patch.


Only problem with that is...

Not everyone has or uses the internet when they game.

Why would they risk it?

That was my thought too.

#5750
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Drew Karpyshyn ‏ @DrewKarpyshyn just said this on his twitter.
''Funny. Some upset fans say #ME3 was awesome until the end ruined it. Claim it would have been better if I was still on the project. BUT...''

Meaning?