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[panamakira]

Lugaidster wrote...

Mass Effect ‏ @masseffect Cerrar
@voxthedevil We're confident you'll make the right choice. You better make the right choice!

That's another tweet. What do you guys think? Grasping at straws or more screwing with our heads?

What is this business about making the right choice? We have been speculating that "Destroy" is the right choice and the other choices are part of the indoctrination. Oh my God....I don't know if we're just seeing things where there are none or what.....

[MissMaster_2]

Smoolio wrote...

Do renegades with ems +4k (5k) also get the wake up line? if so, CONFIRMED

I did not get a "wake up" either.

[AnnaExMachina]

Sorry, I didn't get to read all of the pages yet, but I noticed something when limping in the hallway you first get beamed to on the Citadel. The piles of bodies all have a body wearing Ashley's famous phoenix armor, who I left behind on Virmire. Did that change for those who left Kaidan behind? And every body in the pile has the same face and no hair. That struck me as really odd. Maybe just lazy background stuff?

[thatfilmgirl]

Althorne wrote...

I don't want to cast a downer on this, but:

https://twitter.com/...375306774286337

Don't know what it means for the theory. I guess time will tell.

Well, I imagine they'd be happy to know that some people were happy with the 'ending' regardless.

We're porbably not going to get anything until NEXT week, as Japan is getting the game Friday, right?

[Prince Keldar]

I can not believe this but I think I want to play ME3 again but I am trying to resist the urge just in case this s**t is not true. What if the endings really are the true endings??? NO NO STOP THINKING THAT (slaps own face.)

[SomeoneStoleMyName]

Althorne wrote...

I don't want to cast a downer on this, but:

https://twitter.com/...375306774286337

Don't know what it means for the theory. I guess time will tell.

I was gonna say "They are deceiving us now just as the star child deceived us" then it made me realize how paranoid this thread has made me. 

[Obidex]

Bailey Peterson ‏ @peterson_baily · Open
@masseffect Hey BW. Can we have a response about the whole fixing the ending issue. It'd be important to do so, as many people want change.
Mass Effect ‏ @masseffect Close
@peterson_baily We are aware of people's concerns and feedback!
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Not sure if that had been posted yet

[Lambchopz]

Althorne wrote...

I don't want to cast a downer on this, but:

https://twitter.com/...375306774286337

Don't know what it means for the theory. I guess time will tell.

I think the downer here is that BioWare is now surprised when somebody actually likes the ending. Cleary most of the feedback they have heard has been the opposite.

In some ways, that makes me feel kind of bad, but mostly it's very telling.

[BlackDragonBane]

So, this has been brought up countless times but I'd like to reiterate myself just to create a more clear definition of how the story could continue.

Basically, everything from the point after Harbinger attempts to kill you is an illusion. There is enough in-game proof to support this theory. All of it is a hallucination created by Harbinger's final push to indoctrinate Shepard.

When we see Anderson and TIM at the console, it is the psychological manifestations of Shepard's Paragon and Renegade sides. The fact that Shepard is unable to have any real interaction during the majority of the exchange, forcing Shepard to witness the conflict. Even TIM attempts to force Shepard to kill Anderson, who is the vision of Shepard's resolve.

When talking to Catalyst, it becomes very obvious that it is not just simple a neutral controller for the Reapers, but serves the same purpose as the Reapers. It purposely paints the Destroy option as a bad idea and appeals to Shepard's armor and humanity to try and convince the Commander to pick both either Control or Synthesis. Even the colors on Destroy and Control are completely opposite of their true nature, considernig Anderson is shown on the Destroy side and TIM is shown on the Control side.

The three decisions boil down to these basic concepts

Destroy: Shepard resists Harbinger's final attempt at indoctrinating him/her
Control: Shepard wililngly gives into the indoctrination
Synthesis: Shepard is tricked into believing that this will finally bring peace and inadvertantly succumbs to indoctrination just like Saren did in ME1

The EMS score's role in this determines not only Shepard's available options, Catalyst's responses, or the outcome, but also the possible impact Shepard's hallucinated choice will have in the finale. Low EMS likely results in failure no matter which decision you chose. Your forces will be overwhelmed and destroyed by the Reapers and the cycle will continue.

However, with high EMS, these could be possible variants to the outcome.

Destroy: Shepard awakens and finds themselves buried under rubble, but alive. Harbinger is still twarting all attempts to reach the Conduit. With Shepard still alive, the resistence keeps fighting and make it to the Conduit and onto the Citadel to activate the Crucible and destroy the Reapers once and for all

Control: Shepard's very being and conciousness is absorbed by Catalyst and becomes a part of the Reaper control VI program, turning Shepard into a sleeper agent for the Reapers. He/she either awakens or dead body is found and taken by Reaper troops to be repurposed to being their next Vanguard.

Synthesis: Shepard's DNA and conciousness becomes apart of the Reapers, giving them a better understanding of humanity's tenacious will power. Either Shepard dies or becomes one of the Reapers themselves, carrying out the destruction of his own people and allies. That or you get the same sleeper agent ending as Control.

The ending possiblities are just my ideas of what could happen given the circumstances. Given that the titles for each option speak for themselves about the possible outcomes of the choices, it's wouldn't be too far off.

[BigBossBoo]

Something I found odd about the GC is that during his speech about the reapers and the solution, supposedly they reached the pinnacle of evolution "and knew everything, could control everything including time" (something along those lines).  If they were that powerful and intelligent, why does Shepard come so far?

[LastChanceofgod]

Althorne wrote...

I don't want to cast a downer on this, but:

https://twitter.com/...375306774286337

Don't know what it means for the theory. I guess time will tell.

Well, think about it, if your job was to comfort angry fans and you got one that loved the ending, you would be pretty grateful too.

[De1ta G]

Hmmmm, Did anyone here get to lvl 60 in their first playthrough?If so, how? I only got to 57.

[pumpkinpirate]

FugitiveMind wrote...

Auresta wrote...

Lugaidster wrote...

Mass Effect ‏ @masseffect Cerrar
@voxthedevil We're confident you'll make the right choice. You better make the right choice!

That's another tweet. What do you guys think? Grasping at straws or more screwing with our heads?

They could say that to anything.

BUT I WOULD PREFER TO GRASP AT STRAWS

Not straws... Emerrrrrgency Induction Ports...

lol

[Lost Cipher]

You guys realize that if the endings are going to be changed or remain the same, PR always says something. It is in the interest of the PR department of EA to get you to believe this!

They want your money... So a guy on twitter saying something is coming, is nothing more than digital hot air.

This would be amazing if true, but the practicality of it is beyond scope.

Modifié par Lost Cipher, 13 mars 2012 - 01:37 .

[Bawseee]

Smoolio wrote...

Do renegades with ems +4k (5k) also get the wake up line? if so, CONFIRMED

You can renegade your way through and choose the destroy Reaper option and get the wake up line. 

[Smoolio]

FrostByte-GER wrote...

Smoolio wrote...

Do renegades with ems +4k (5k) also get the wake up line? if so, CONFIRMED

???I dont understand, epxlain it please^^

I mean if the trigger for the "wake up" line instead of "why are you here" is to have enough EMS to get the shepard lives ending, then to me that means it's an indoctrination dream.

[thePredator50]

Smoolio wrote...

Do renegades with ems +4k (5k) also get the wake up line? if so, CONFIRMED

I'm curious about this as well but... In my ending (paragon) I got the "wake up" line and Shepard DID NOT wake up after the Destroy ending.

[LolaLei]

Can anyone get a slowed audio copy of just the whispers you hear during the ending inside the Citadel? I'm trying to work out what it is the whispers are saying.

[Winged Squiger]

Anything new on Twitter?

[JediNg]

AnnaExMachina wrote...

Sorry, I didn't get to read all of the pages yet, but I noticed something when limping in the hallway you first get beamed to on the Citadel. The piles of bodies all have a body wearing Ashley's famous phoenix armor, who I left behind on Virmire. Did that change for those who left Kaidan behind? And every body in the pile has the same face and no hair. That struck me as really odd. Maybe just lazy background stuff?

Can anybody check this?

[Bigdoser]

Smoolio wrote...

FrostByte-GER wrote...

Smoolio wrote...

Do renegades with ems +4k (5k) also get the wake up line? if so, CONFIRMED

???I dont understand, epxlain it please^^

I mean if the trigger for the "wake up" line instead of "why are you here" is to have enough EMS to get the shepard lives ending, then to me that means it's an indoctrination dream.

I could go check now since my shepard is renegade and I have like 5700 ems with 100% readiness(yes i like multiplayer)

[panamakira]

GrumpyM00SE wrote...

kyg_20X6 wrote...

thePredator50 wrote...

Skipped over last few pages - new Twitter update from Chris Priestly:

@BioEvilChris Would it be too much if I asked you something since you work at BioWare? It's not ****ing about ME3.

@KenRaves Shoot, I may not be able to answer, but I'll try.

@BioEvilChris During the final run, just before the end, are the two squadmates with you killed? I understand if you can't answer.

@KenRaves I don't think we've revealed that yet. Sorry.

That is HUGE!

Wow! How recent was this?

Really recent. I saw it on twitter and I flipped out. Are the going to reveal there's a bug they're fixing or Bioware just trolling with those endings?

[SomeoneStoleMyName]

De1ta G wrote...

Hmmmm, Did anyone here get to lvl 60 in their first playthrough?If so, how? I only got to 57.

Strange then. 

I did every single sidemission, all main missions and collected all artifacts etc. Ended up as only being lvl30-40ish. 

On my 2nd run now and dont seem like Ill make lvl50 this time either.

[Auresta]

SomeoneStoleMyName wrote...

De1ta G wrote...

Hmmmm, Did anyone here get to lvl 60 in their first playthrough?If so, how? I only got to 57.

Strange then. 

I did every single sidemission, all main missions and collected all artifacts etc. Ended up as only being lvl30-40ish. 

On my 2nd run now and dont seem like Ill make lvl50 this time either.

..really? Did you import?

I made it to about lv 56.

[Sl4sh3r]

JediNg wrote...

AnnaExMachina wrote...

Sorry, I didn't get to read all of the pages yet, but I noticed something when limping in the hallway you first get beamed to on the Citadel. The piles of bodies all have a body wearing Ashley's famous phoenix armor, who I left behind on Virmire. Did that change for those who left Kaidan behind? And every body in the pile has the same face and no hair. That struck me as really odd. Maybe just lazy background stuff?

Can anybody check this?

Someone check this.. Someone check this NOW!

My only ending save has Kaidan alive.