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[BlackDragonBane]

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

It wasn't a hallucination. Bioware wouldn't have provided people with one right choice, and two wrong ones.

It may seem like a dream sequence because of how abrupt and completely incoherent it was, but it wasn't.

Then please provide in-game evidence or something from the devs that would debunk all this. This theory is built around everything you see in the games, not solely the wild imaginations of unsatisfied fans. Alot of work has gone into this so you need to do better than that to make a point.

[keith123456789]

still sad though but WE WANT BETTER ENDING
or at least one where shepered and the love interest are reunited

[kyrieee]

I just noticed that when the kid runs into the building that gets blown up (where he hides in the vent), the door holo interface thingy is red, meaning the door is locked. So how the hell did the kid open the door? Plus it doesn't even make sense for him to be there since he was playing with his ship model in some yard earlier, which isn't connected to that building.

[BHynes92]

Icinix wrote...

The more I play the endings - the more I'm convinced it isn't the actual ending.

Same here, it's just... I think it absolutely is the ending that Bioware shipped; the ending they intended it to be. The thing is though, with the ending being so out of place with the rest of the story it would be very easy to slip an addition (DLC) onto the end and pull a Broken Steel.

[ReclaimedHavoc]

panamakira wrote...

ReclaimedHavoc wrote...

panamakira wrote...

VironZ wrote...

Yeah and your LI kinda hints of being pregnant

Yeah when Kaidan hinted at it I knew I had to destroy the Reapers!!!

I don't remember Ash saying anything like that...

Well the fact I said Kaidan hinted at being pregnant should probably tell you I was joking. Usually men don't get pregnant. 

I realize, though I was thinking in my head maybe they had crazy pregnancy tests that Men can perform on women, or something...

Forget I said anything.

[Jackalope]

BlackDragonBane wrote...

I thought that odd too Shepard wasn't covered in borns, just bleeding in a few places. at least the armor wasn't completely blown off. The prospect of running into the Conduit naked with a god-pistol is just unsettling.

Shepard without pants would be evidence that it was a dream, and not indoctrination.  No one wears pants in their dreams.

On another note, my radio at work started playing 'Don't Fear the Reaper', and I had to laugh because the lyrics reminded me of the synthesis ending.

"Love of two is one...here but now they're gone...came that last night of sadness, and it was clear she couldn't go on...the curtains blew and then he appeared...saying don't be afraid...and she had no fear...and she ran to him...she had become like they are..."

[Dougremer]

panamakira wrote...

ReclaimedHavoc wrote...

panamakira wrote...

VironZ wrote...

Yeah and your LI kinda hints of being pregnant

Yeah when Kaidan hinted at it I knew I had to destroy the Reapers!!!

I don't remember Ash saying anything like that...

Well the fact I said Kaidan hinted at being pregnant should probably tell you I was joking. Usually men don't get pregnant. 

Tricky Do you work at BW?! ;D

[BlackDragonBane]

panamakira wrote...

ReclaimedHavoc wrote...

panamakira wrote...

VironZ wrote...

Yeah and your LI kinda hints of being pregnant

Yeah when Kaidan hinted at it I knew I had to destroy the Reapers!!!

I don't remember Ash saying anything like that...

Well the fact I said Kaidan hinted at being pregnant should probably tell you I was joking. Usually men don't get pregnant. 

Good trolling. I had to stop and think about your original post first before going 'Wait..."

[FLYING GRENADE11]

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

It wasn't a hallucination. Bioware wouldn't have provided people with one right choice, and two wrong ones.

It may seem like a dream sequence because of how abrupt and completely incoherent it was, but it wasn't.

(covers ears) nanananaananaan i can't HEAR YOU!

[Icinix]

trembli0s wrote...

I have to say this seems to be more plausible than I originally gave it credit for.

Would this be the ultimate troll attempt or the ultimate form of user interaction from Bioware?

Guess we'll find out sooner or later.

I'm hopeful that is BioWare quite literally pulling out all the stops on the game and experimenting with an ending that goes beyond the ending we get with the game. Some kind of crazy far out ending that unlocks or something after a point in time or needs to be DLC (which is risky since so many people don't have their consoles connected to the internet).

Either way - it will be interesting to see how it all unfolds over the coming weeks / months.

[Getorex]

lookingglassmind wrote...

Guys, another thing in favour of a possible indoctrination device on the Normandy:

I just started a new game. You have one cutscene where you're on the Normandy in the beginning, with Kaidan and James before going to Mars. The next time you're aboard the Normandy is after the stuff at the Citadel with trying to convince the Council to help you, and they send you to Palaven. But before you can interact with the Normandy environment as the player, you have to return to the ship from the docking bay. This triggers a cutscene -- your first dream with the Catalyst. Then you wake up, and begin your tour with Traynor.

It's a small thing, and probably kind of reaching for things that aren't there, but still.

I like it.

When people are faced with something they cannot understand (not an insult by the way) like the ending, they will search around and desperately try to make what they cannot understand understandable in SOME way.  Like religion.  It is a creation of people to try to make sense of that which they fail to understand or fear.  Thus, people are rationalizing LIKE CRAZY to make "sense" of the game ending(s) (such as they were).  We who have played from day 1 from ME1 to ME2 to ME3 get to the end and it is W. T. F?!  

Perhaps Bioware was trying to be cute and sophisticated.  Perhaps. 

Bad plan. Bad execution.  Now they are no doubt crapping their pants and, maybe, rushing to get a rational DLC out to fix the craptacular situation. 

Bioware, if you were going for some "higher plane" with the ending...don't do that ****.  Look at this as a learning experience.  Don't do that **** again.  It's a sinker, not a floater.

[xDarkspace]

VironZ wrote...

panamakira wrote...

VironZ wrote...

Yeah and your LI kinda hints of being pregnant

Yeah when Kaidan hinted at it I knew I had to destroy the Reapers!!!

Ashley/Tali put forward suggestive statements

tali never said anything about being pregnent

[ceruleancrescent]

FLYING GRENADE11 wrote...

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

It wasn't a hallucination. Bioware wouldn't have provided people with one right choice, and two wrong ones.

It may seem like a dream sequence because of how abrupt and completely incoherent it was, but it wasn't.

(covers ears) nanananaananaan i can't HEAR YOU!

HAHA! 

[ReclaimedHavoc]

xDarkspace wrote...

VironZ wrote...

panamakira wrote...

VironZ wrote...

Yeah and your LI kinda hints of being pregnant

Yeah when Kaidan hinted at it I knew I had to destroy the Reapers!!!

Ashley/Tali put forward suggestive statements

tali never said anything about being pregnent

Still don't remember anything from Ash.

[Jackalope]

VironZ wrote...

panamakira wrote...

VironZ wrote...

Yeah and your LI kinda hints of being pregnant

Yeah when Kaidan hinted at it I knew I had to destroy the Reapers!!!

Ashley/Tali put forward suggestive statements

So did Garrus.  Which I thought was just a joke from the 'mutant hybrid' talk on the Garrus thread.  So everyone mentioned babies?  I think think that last conversation with Liara was her getting knocked up.

[Mini Jo]

ReclaimedHavoc wrote...

Dougremer wrote...

smah wrote...

ReclaimedHavoc wrote...

Dougremer wrote...

ReclaimedHavoc wrote...

Dougremer wrote...

Martukis wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Also, another reason this could be Shepard hallucinating/indoctrinated is that during the scene with Anderson and The Illusive Man, they behave as if they are the devil and angel on your shoulder - One is in favour of control while the other favours destroy. When the God Child gives you your options you see the image of The Illusive Man trying to control the Reapers and Anderson trying to destroy them, both of them representing the two sides of Shepards subconcious. This seems highly suggestive of it all being in Shepards head.

I thought so too - and sometimes it seems like what they're saying might be to Shep, not each other, imo.

Yeah, and just looke how strange Anderson is behaving. And when TIM gets more "power" Shepard shoots Anderson.

What are the conditions that force you into shooting Anderson? I didn't shoot him.

Don't know, when TIM did something with his fist (biotics i guess) a shot was fired from my gun. I think, haha, need to check that again

/D

TIM did that red shock thing, but I never shot Anderson. He just collapsed, and just died after the talk.

I'm sorry, but I'm greatly resisting the urge to call you "dense" right now. The "biotics" use is TIM falunting his new powers of control granted by the reaper inplants. When he does this, he control you, causing u to fire a shot which hits Anderson. He then dies from this wound after the talk.

Yes, interesting here though, mine was blue

I could've sworn it was red...I feel as if I should check.

Does anyone really care?

I do, and mine was definitely blue.

[thePredator50]

VironZ wrote...

panamakira wrote...

VironZ wrote...

Yeah and your LI kinda hints of being pregnant

Yeah when Kaidan hinted at it I knew I had to destroy the Reapers!!!

Ashley/Tali put forward suggestive statements, not outright, but at some point it seems that shes holding something back in one of the love you blah blah lines, nothing assured just hinted either that or hinting at the future. Pretty sure Ash/Liara does the same.

Where did Tali mention this?

[Getorex]

Icinix wrote...

trembli0s wrote...

I have to say this seems to be more plausible than I originally gave it credit for.

Would this be the ultimate troll attempt or the ultimate form of user interaction from Bioware?

Guess we'll find out sooner or later.

I'm hopeful that is BioWare quite literally pulling out all the stops on the game and experimenting with an ending that goes beyond the ending we get with the game. Some kind of crazy far out ending that unlocks or something after a point in time or needs to be DLC (which is risky since so many people don't have their consoles connected to the internet).

Either way - it will be interesting to see how it all unfolds over the coming weeks / months.

How it turns out is a crapstorm.  The price for ME3 is dropping precipitously already.  Less than a week out of the chocks and the price is augering in.

Bioware screwed the pooch when they tried being cute.  I feel for them and I can feel the panic.  

[VironZ]

trololololol

[BlackDragonBane]

Jackalope wrote...

VironZ wrote...

panamakira wrote...

VironZ wrote...

Yeah and your LI kinda hints of being pregnant

Yeah when Kaidan hinted at it I knew I had to destroy the Reapers!!!

Ashley/Tali put forward suggestive statements

So did Garrus.  Which I thought was just a joke from the 'mutant hybrid' talk on the Garrus thread.  So everyone mentioned babies?  I think think that last conversation with Liara was her getting knocked up.

Garrus's joke about Turian-Human babies was a welcoming comic relief in the face of impending doom.

Needed a more raunchy love scene >_> but I'm getting distracted. Back to theorycrafting!!!

Modifié par BlackDragonBane, 13 mars 2012 - 02:26 .

[seitani]

CaptnObvious wrote...

I think the writers like Mac Walters kindof hate you guys, not because you aren't impressed by his writing, but rather because all of this is a much better idea and much better written then the endings we got.

There is actually some game ready material these guys and girls are putting up here

[Vikali]

I'm loving following people's theories. I'm still confused how the Reapers are actually destroyed though, if Shep is not actually experiencing anything.

[Icinix]

FLYING GRENADE11 wrote...

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

It wasn't a hallucination. Bioware wouldn't have provided people with one right choice, and two wrong ones.

It may seem like a dream sequence because of how abrupt and completely incoherent it was, but it wasn't.

(covers ears) nanananaananaan i can't HEAR YOU!

The waking up scene may only be a bonus for completionists, kind of like the Master Chief and the ending on the highest difficulty.

If there is a DLC or another ending coming - its entirely possible that all Sheps will wake up in London perhaps indoctrination broken through other means, perhaps by TIM himself using the control system developed on Horizon...(WHAT A TWIST!) - OR - that unique save just before the end will allow you to go through and choose a new ending before it.

Edit : The TIM being doubtful at the end through most of the conversation never sat well with me - as TIM always came across who had total resolve in whatever he believed in - but from the total outset it was almost like he was looking for approval, or had doubts.

Modifié par Icinix, 13 mars 2012 - 02:27 .

[2_BR4ZIL_2]

2_BR4ZIL_2 wrote...

Richard STIHL wrote...

sorry, english is my first language but i suck at and i dont care

1. endings leaked- bw came up with this little indoctrination ending to compensate

2. bw released space edition knowing people would blab. real ending coming so everyone would get it at the sametime (what a genius way to end a truly epis story like mass effest)

3. casey hudson said hold on to your saves. ending expansion pack (DA:O awakining style)

4. read the codex on indoctrination

5. infinite bullets

6. shepard waking up on earth

7. squad mates teleporting unharmed onto a normandy getting ready to jump through a relay

8. destroy being the renagede option (In dreams everthing is reversed.... also kinda explains 1m1)

9. gambles post about this being the hardest day ever.

10. guide book talks about secret ending possibly taken out. only to be given to us later.

11. kid dissapearing after you destroy

12. vega talking about humming

13. allmost killing virmire survivor

14. reapers hate you why would they tell you the truth. Read the art of war.

15. little kid is the catylist

16. EA likes money

17. trees magically appearing

18. sheps voiced under little boys

19. shep does not have a breathing mask on ( in mass effet 1 when your elevetor stops shep says "suit up" then you fight up the citidel tower

19.5 little kid smirks at you when you choos merge or control

20. EA aka rEApers like money


im not grasping at straws. more like grasping at pen15es

add if you have anyhting

21. God Kid only says "Wake Up" in a diferent tone if you have enough points for surviving the Destroy ending

22. God Kid speaks with both male & female sheps voice

I also have some pretty monor ones, like:

23. all bodies on the cidadel have a weird blank face
 
24. The way Anderson talks after you reach the cidadel is really weird too, one example is something like this:

Anderson: This looks like the collector's base from your descriptions!
Shep: Makes sense.

only it really...doesnt, i mean its the cidadel! when i first played (i didint knew this theory) this line really bother me, i was like: wtf shepard said that!?

Like i said, minor stuff

Just bumping the list guys, add anything you might think it is there!

i am off for today, maybe tomorrow there will be new revelations!

[Pyewacket]

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

It wasn't a hallucination. Bioware wouldn't have provided people with one right choice, and two wrong ones.

It may seem like a dream sequence because of how abrupt and completely incoherent it was, but it wasn't.

Uh, do you have any evidence that supports that theory other than, "Bioware wouldn't do that."?