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[MissMaster_2]

Rahabzu wrote...

Ravax wrote...

Christine Dawe ‏ @historygeek90

I don't even know that I want to play the 3rd @masseffect now. Everyone says the ending offers no closure and is a cop-out. Maybe DLCs?
Mass Effect Mass Effect ‏ @masseffect

@historygeek90 Make your own opinion. Many have actually enjoyed the ending.

and:

Trevor Ruth ‏ @TrutHofGaminG
@ALaggyHost @masseffect I wonder if there is anyone out there who actually understood & liked the #ME3 Ending along with me. @bioware
Mass Effect Mass Effect ‏ @masseffect

@truthofgaming You're one in a few. You should wear that as a badge of honor. You go against mainstream concerns.

I hope they answer you unlike me, this is showing me Bioware thinks their ending is acceptable or something?

We will see.

[ElectronicPostingInterface]

At first when I heard of this idea it seemed very crack pot.

It may be my denial talking but it no longer seems that far-fetched.

I guess this is a lie I can believe in if the worst happens.

Modifié par PKchu, 13 mars 2012 - 04:46 .

[ReclaimedHavoc]

Rahabzu wrote...

Ravax wrote...

Christine Dawe ‏ @historygeek90

I don't even know that I want to play the 3rd @masseffect now. Everyone says the ending offers no closure and is a cop-out. Maybe DLCs?
Mass Effect Mass Effect ‏ @masseffect

@historygeek90 Make your own opinion. Many have actually enjoyed the ending.

and:

Trevor Ruth ‏ @TrutHofGaminG
@ALaggyHost @masseffect I wonder if there is anyone out there who actually understood & liked the #ME3 Ending along with me. @bioware
Mass Effect Mass Effect ‏ @masseffect

@truthofgaming You're one in a few. You should wear that as a badge of honor. You go against mainstream concerns.

I hope they answer you unlike me, this is showing me Bioware thinks their ending is acceptable or something?

I think they're just happy someone has the balls to stand up and say they enjoy it, without going to BW and asking for more.

I dunno. I'm not them, I have no idea what they're thinking ATM.

[RyanHensley2010]

Ok, so I just noticed something. I have no clue about what 1m1 means, but in Liara's office on the normandy, there is some kind of hardware with 8m8 on it. Thoughts?

[J717]

Can't believe this thread has grown 100 pages since I last checked it late last night lol....

Come on BioWare, throw us a bone. Ever since I took an ending to the knee, i just have a hatred for video games that i didn't possess before. Ugh.

[camcon2100]

I find it as the destroy option unlocks at a reasonable number of assets. When shepard takes her breath happens, but only shows it as a 5000 option. Think of it like a legendary ending for Halo.

[Fledgey]

Rahabzu wrote...

Ravax wrote...

Christine Dawe ‏ @historygeek90

I don't even know that I want to play the 3rd @masseffect now. Everyone says the ending offers no closure and is a cop-out. Maybe DLCs?
Mass Effect Mass Effect ‏ @masseffect

@historygeek90 Make your own opinion. Many have actually enjoyed the ending.

and:

Trevor Ruth ‏ @TrutHofGaminG
@ALaggyHost @masseffect I wonder if there is anyone out there who actually understood & liked the #ME3 Ending along with me. @bioware
Mass Effect Mass Effect ‏ @masseffect

@truthofgaming You're one in a few. You should wear that as a badge of honor. You go against mainstream concerns.

I hope they answer you unlike me, this is showing me Bioware thinks their ending is acceptable or something?

Oh god I am so sick of you. They're teasing. That's all they've been doing. It's PR nonsense. Why would their social media thralls know anything they didn't need to? They're told how to respond. Now stop ****ing quoting this and saying the same thing every hour. It's infuriating.

[corporal doody]

ReclaimedHavoc wrote...

Dap Brannigan wrote...

Sorry if I missed this in the thread, but what is the significance of "1M1"?

I'd like to know this as well.

WORd!!! i saw that in the last part on the citadel....and i was thinking...if the citadel is 100s of millions of years old.... how did they know english (rather our alphabet)?!!!!

i stopped and had to ponder that as Shep was walking.

Modifié par corporal doody, 13 mars 2012 - 04:47 .

[Rahabzu]

PKchu wrote...

Ravax wrote...
@truthofgaming You're one in a few. You should wear that as a badge of honor. You go against mainstream concerns.

This makes me resent Bioware, like I'm some kind of idiot for caring about their game.

"I'm not sure if this has been mentioned before, because this thread is HUGE. But if you look closely at the video images from both the Synth and Control options, when Shepard is burning away... s/he turns into a husk for about 1 second before the image starts to fade."

Screenshot?

Yes this has been mentioned, thanks for bringing it up again for newer people.

[Ecmoose]

pumpkinpirate wrote...

PKchu wrote...

camcon2100 wrote...

PKchu wrote...

camcon2100 wrote...

crimsontotem wrote...



2:15 when the kid says "Choose"... Harbinger's echo?

Holy **** I heard it!

I didn't hear it, or the Meer/Hale thing.

But...

I want to believe. Particularly Harbinger/indoctrination.

I will admit, when I first met the kid and he said I can't help him or whatever, I thought "Hmm, I wonder if this is indoctrination?"

Hmm i find it pretty easy to hear hale and meer in that sequence...

I'm trying it with pretty poor quality speakers and I don't have the best ear. I'm not doubting the people who hear it, I just can't.

Is it me or does Shepard voice echo too? She doesn't seem to be speaking loud enough for an echo.

Especially considering, you know, they're standing in SPACE between the crucible and the citadel. Nothing echos in space.

[Karait]

SandTrout wrote... I hadn't even considered that gathering more EMS = Takeing more time = more cumulative effect from indoctrination. That is really an excellent point.

I'm more inclined to believe that Reapers would put more attention to indoctrinating Shepard based on the size of army the face. Still, Reapers surely know that Shep is the driving force behind this cycle's resistance and I'm pretty sure they'd fry his brain (or at least do their best against their arch-enemy) the second they had the opportunity.

Anyway, I'd consider this a plot inconsistency and I'd take it any day instead of gaping plot holes and spacekid/spacemagic nonsense we've been given.

[Debi-Tage]

It is so obvious the kid IS Harbinger - listen to the complete conversation - the way he describes the synthesis choice as achieving the "apex" of evolution and the whole idea of ascending to a higher plane of existence is basically verbatim what what he yappers on about in ME1 and what people who are obviously indoctrinated throughout the WHOLE series say about the "godlike" quality of the Reapers. It is not a subtle point - at all.

Plus did anyone else notice that he is the very last thing the player sees before the whole "dream sequence" begins. He is there.

Modifié par Debi-Tage, 13 mars 2012 - 04:50 .

[Richard STIHL]

the reall ending wil have the autobots along with chuck norris kicking reaper ass

optimus prime vs harbinger

da fuq!!?!?!

Modifié par Richard STIHL, 13 mars 2012 - 04:48 .

[Sl4sh3r]

PKchu wrote...

Ravax wrote...
@truthofgaming You're one in a few. You should wear that as a badge of honor. You go against mainstream concerns.

This makes me resent Bioware, like I'm some kind of idiot for caring about their game.

"I'm not sure if this has been mentioned before, because this thread is HUGE. But if you look closely at the video images from both the Synth and Control options, when Shepard is burning away... s/he turns into a husk for about 1 second before the image starts to fade."

Screenshot?

I can't post pictures so...
http://social.biowar...423/196#9829614

[manjikengo]

shep turning husk in CONTROL http://i39.tinypic.com/11ht642.png

Modifié par manjikengo, 13 mars 2012 - 04:48 .

[DarkSeraphym]

BlackDragonBane wrote...

It's actually kind of ingenious because the game rewards you on your dedication. The longer you spend playing and exploring, the better your 'reward' is, like with the breathing ending for Destroy with high EMS.

Not everyone will like it but it's something completely different from a game developer, if it's Bioware's intentions.

My dedication amounted to Shepard collecting about 3200-3500 War Assets and then finishing the rest by taking advantage of the Galaxy at War system. I opted to use a Human Infiltrator for about an hour, one that my Shepard will never meet and one that will amount to nothing more than potentially pushing Reapers forces a little further out of whatever system I was fighting in at the time. If BioWare had some kind of ingenius intention with the breathing scene in the manner that it was presented within the indoctrination theory, they would have been better off lowering the amount of EMS I needed to do it so that it was based entirely off the actions of my Shepard, as it would have been for the majority of Shepards. Assuming this is the direction they are going in, I would hope that they would lower the EMS so that I could avoid that problem once the servers are down in a couple of years. Otherwise, the DLC would end up not mattering for the majority of Shepards anyway.

Modifié par DarkSeraphym, 13 mars 2012 - 04:49 .

[soull2]

balance5050 wrote...

EMS is a measure of time as well as military  strength, the more time, the more elaborate the ruse to trick you into joining. Also you need a high EMS to keep you alive while you're in lala land. Makes perfect sense, they don't need you to join them if the army you amassed isn't enough of a threat.

This also makes the kids tone when he says "Why are you
here?" in an angry voice make sense. He doesn’t have to sugarcoat it to
get Shepard to not pick the destroy option because he does not think Shep can
at this point whereas when Shep can he say "Wake Up" all nice like to
get Shep on his side.

Modifié par soull2, 13 mars 2012 - 05:16 .

[JasonTan87]

This theory was plausible right from the beginning. I thought it most unlikely, but as I see it move along, the more likely it seems.

I'm a believer now.

In any case, true or not, two things are certain:

1. This theory is true: the most ambitious bit of video game writing ever. Yes, the narrative itself could have been written better to support this meta-narrative, and Bioware trolled us, but it's a really good attempt.

2. This theory is not true and Bioware just stuffed up: The Mass Effect fans really love their Mass Effect, and some of them have the most brilliant imaginations around. It shows how much potential the series has, and why Mass Effect is the defining Sci-fi IP of this decade.

In either case, this thread is a win-win situation under our current circumstances.

Well done, keep up the good work.

Now; where's my ending/epilogue DLC?

Modifié par JasonTan87, 13 mars 2012 - 04:50 .

[ReclaimedHavoc]

camcon2100 wrote...

I find it as the destroy option unlocks at a reasonable number of assets. When shepard takes her breath happens, but only shows it as a 5000 option. Think of it like a legendary ending for Halo.

Except, as you can see, there is something happening to that Legendary ending. *cough* Halo 4. *cough*
Plus, they said ME3 would be the end of Shepard's story, I hardly call that a conclusive end.

[ceruleancrescent]

Rahabzu wrote...

PKchu wrote...

Ravax wrote...
@truthofgaming You're one in a few. You should wear that as a badge of honor. You go against mainstream concerns.

This makes me resent Bioware, like I'm some kind of idiot for caring about their game.

"I'm not sure if this has been mentioned before, because this thread is HUGE. But if you look closely at the video images from both the Synth and Control options, when Shepard is burning away... s/he turns into a husk for about 1 second before the image starts to fade."

Screenshot?

Yes this has been mentioned, thanks for bringing it up again for newer people.

Screenshots of the husk-like Shepard from the Control and Synthesis endings

[Rahabzu]

Fledgey wrote...

Rahabzu wrote...

Ravax wrote...

Christine Dawe ‏ @historygeek90

I don't even know that I want to play the 3rd @masseffect now. Everyone says the ending offers no closure and is a cop-out. Maybe DLCs?
Mass Effect Mass Effect ‏ @masseffect

@historygeek90 Make your own opinion. Many have actually enjoyed the ending.

and:

Trevor Ruth ‏ @TrutHofGaminG
@ALaggyHost @masseffect I wonder if there is anyone out there who actually understood & liked the #ME3 Ending along with me. @bioware
Mass Effect Mass Effect ‏ @masseffect

@truthofgaming You're one in a few. You should wear that as a badge of honor. You go against mainstream concerns.

I hope they answer you unlike me, this is showing me Bioware thinks their ending is acceptable or something?

Oh god I am so sick of you. They're teasing. That's all they've been doing. It's PR nonsense. Why would their social media thralls know anything they didn't need to? They're told how to respond. Now stop ****ing quoting this and saying the same thing every hour. It's infuriating.

FIRST OF ALL I qouted it within 5 minutes each time the page shifted because the thread was moving immediately, SECOND OF ALL I am qouting someone ELSE mentioning it. THIRD, I have been in this thread agreeing with the damn theory the whole damn time dont you dare go butthurt at me for pointing out something that angers me said by Bioware.

[KoryDavis]

With all this hoopla about a DLC Ending, i can't help but think...

Didn't Bioware say something about them wanting us to hold on to our ME3 files?

[Golferguy758]

Karait wrote...

SandTrout wrote... I hadn't even considered that gathering more EMS = Takeing more time = more cumulative effect from indoctrination. That is really an excellent point.

I'm more inclined to believe that Reapers would put more attention to indoctrinating Shepard based on the size of army the face. Still, Reapers surely know that Shep is the driving force behind this cycle's resistance and I'm pretty sure they'd fry his brain (or at least do their best against their arch-enemy) the second they had the opportunity.

Anyway, I'd consider this a plot inconsistency and I'd take it any day instead of gaping plot holes and spacekid/spacemagic nonsense we've been given.

I would think they would want to convert him even more. Shepard has been a thorn in the Reapers side for 3 years now. They are extremely prideful. What better way to crush the hope of your most hated enemy race (Currently humans) than by corrupting their most charismatic and important leader. If they indoctrinated Shepard the alliances would fall apart in short order and kill any resistance to the Reapers.

If I wanted to wipe out a species and prove that no matter who fights against me i can corrupt and bend them to my will, I would corrupt the one who has been leading the figth against me.

That's my theory on why Harbinger wants Shepard so badly.

[BlackDragonBane]

CaptnObvious wrote...

BlackDragonBane wrote...

CaptnObvious wrote...

And anyone else see a link between the oddly random Reaper Turian, and three Husks? Dont they look a bit... familiar to your crew? Not the models though, i mean the princple of having three husks, maybe representing Ash , James and i dont know who else, and Garrus as the Turian. Though i wonder where banshee liara is.
Maybe you killed your buddies in a indoctrination induced daze?

Liara Banshee scares the living crap out of me just by the thought...

But the part where Harbinger leaves is likely part of the hallucination. Shepard thinks that Harbinger thinks he/she is dead and just goes to rejoin the battle with the fleets.

It's a stretch I admit.

It is a bit of a stretch  I doubt he would think that. That's quite optimistic, even for paragon Shep.
To me the most logical explanation to why Harby goes away is because the Future Child said so.And that's not what i believe, because logic got nothing against Space Magic:wizard:

Everytime I hear 'space magic' this is what goes through my mind

Dragon Age and Mass Effect are in the same universe, just Mass Effect takes place WAY after Dragon Age. Dragons and Arch Demons have become the all powerful Reapers, mages have been converted into synthetics and constantly rebel against those that wish to control them and Shepard is the descendant of the Grey Wardens and the only one capable of fighting the Reapers.

How's that for Space Magic? 

Modifié par BlackDragonBane, 13 mars 2012 - 04:51 .

[FLYING GRENADE11]

 

Huskified?