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[N7L4D]

I love you guys, thankyou for giving me hope

[Foulpancake]

Animositisomina wrote...

k8ee wrote...

Kitten Tactics wrote...

lookingglassmind wrote...

Kitten Tactics wrote...

RussianOrc wrote...I've also noticed by watching the ending that the destroy option is the only one wich shepard don't look like a husk before his death.anyone saw that?

What? Can someone elaborate?  I only did Destroy.

In Synthesis and Control, Shepard's skin turns black and she/he begins to take the appearance of a husk.  This could be a metaphor for falling under Reaper control.

HOLY you're right. How did that not register with me???

The only problem with this theory is that you need "dragon's teeth" to convert people into husks.

Pretty sure thats only for other races to make husks, i didn't see any of them in london or anywhere else during ME3 but husks were everywhere. I think Reapers themselves would have no problems making husks

Modifié par Foulpancake, 11 mars 2012 - 01:33 .

[kyleh619]

Don't forget Shepard was unconscious for 2 days during the events of "The Arrival." Its a good amount of exposure for indoctrination.

Modifié par kyleh619, 11 mars 2012 - 01:34 .

[thePredator50]

Here's one more thing I noticed that's "off" in the ending. Might be irrelevant, I might be wrong, but for better or worse:



At 7:30, human soldiers seem to be shooting at what appear to be Geth, not Reaper forces. Now, why would that be the case?

[MPSai]

Foulpancake wrote...

Sajuro wrote...

I don't know if you put this up, but if it is a hallucination then the Catalyst could have lied to you and when you use the synthesis option it makes everyone into the ultimate fusion of organic and synthetic, Reapers!
The scene where the Normandy crashes is just part of Shepard's dieing mind, and what he imagines would happen.

Ya, also notice the normandy crashing scene is before the shepard breathing scene in the good end. It doesn't really make a ton of sense why shepard would still see this if red = break control, but it still fits.

No one comes out of the Normandy in that version right? Shepard breaks control and the thought of everyone dying without her/him shocks her/him awake?  I may be stretching now, but damnit I'll choose to believe this.

[RussianOrc]

Animositisomina wrote...

k8ee wrote...

Kitten Tactics wrote...

lookingglassmind wrote...

Kitten Tactics wrote...

RussianOrc wrote...I've also noticed by watching the ending that the destroy option is the only one wich shepard don't look like a husk before his death.anyone saw that?

What? Can someone elaborate?  I only did Destroy.

In Synthesis and Control, Shepard's skin turns black and she/he begins to take the appearance of a husk.  This could be a metaphor for falling under Reaper control.

HOLY you're right. How did that not register with me???

The only problem with this theory is that you need "dragon's teeth" to convert people into husks.

it dosen't mean shepard became a husk its just a metaphor for indocrination.

[Animositisomina]

Foulpancake wrote...

Animositisomina wrote...

k8ee wrote...

Kitten Tactics wrote...

lookingglassmind wrote...

Kitten Tactics wrote...

RussianOrc wrote...I've also noticed by watching the ending that the destroy option is the only one wich shepard don't look like a husk before his death.anyone saw that?

What? Can someone elaborate?  I only did Destroy.

In Synthesis and Control, Shepard's skin turns black and she/he begins to take the appearance of a husk.  This could be a metaphor for falling under Reaper control.

HOLY you're right. How did that not register with me???

The only problem with this theory is that you need "dragon's teeth" to convert people into husks.

Pretty sure thats only for other races to make husks, i didn't see any of them in london or anywhere else during ME3 but husks were everywhere. I think Reapers themselves would have no problems making husks

Remember Eden Prime in ME1? Those were all human colonists turned into husks via dragon's teeth. And in the ME3 trailer, we see a human being turned into a husk via dragon's teeth.

[lookingglassmind]

Animositisomina wrote...

k8ee wrote...

Kitten Tactics wrote...

lookingglassmind wrote...

Kitten Tactics wrote...

RussianOrc wrote...I've also noticed by watching the ending that the destroy option is the only one wich shepard don't look like a husk before his death.anyone saw that?

What? Can someone elaborate?  I only did Destroy.

In Synthesis and Control, Shepard's skin turns black and she/he begins to take the appearance of a husk.  This could be a metaphor for falling under Reaper control.

HOLY you're right. How did that not register with me???

The only problem with this theory is that you need "dragon's teeth" to convert people into husks.

Not if it was a metaphor/metaphysical manifestation of indoctrination.

[FugitiveMind]

Wonderful, this thread has seriously saved this game for me for a bit

Nothing like a well discussed and thought out shared delusion to help get me through...

I'll begin taking my kool-aid again without the need for the vodka

[RussianOrc]

thePredator50 wrote...

Here's one more thing I noticed that's "off" in the ending. Might be irrelevant, I might be wrong, but for better or worse:



At 7:30, human soldiers seem to be shooting at what appear to be Geth, not Reaper forces. Now, why would that be the case?

i think its a cannibal.

[humes spork]

Animositisomina wrote...

The only problem with this theory is that you need "dragon's teeth" to convert people into husks.

They don't mean Shepard's being literally turned into a husk. They mean Shepard's being harvested, to whatever end that may be.

You know, like how it looks on the Collector base when the colonist is harvested in front of Shepard?

[kyleh619]

lookingglassmind wrote...

Animositisomina wrote...

k8ee wrote...

Kitten Tactics wrote...

lookingglassmind wrote...

Kitten Tactics wrote...

RussianOrc wrote...I've also noticed by watching the ending that the destroy option is the only one wich shepard don't look like a husk before his death.anyone saw that?

What? Can someone elaborate?  I only did Destroy.

In Synthesis and Control, Shepard's skin turns black and she/he begins to take the appearance of a husk.  This could be a metaphor for falling under Reaper control.

HOLY you're right. How did that not register with me???

The only problem with this theory is that you need "dragon's teeth" to convert people into husks.

Not if it was a metaphor/metaphysical manifestation of indoctrination.

Cerberus did not need dragon's teeth

[AvianCat]

Animositisomina wrote...

k8ee wrote...

Kitten Tactics wrote...

lookingglassmind wrote...

Kitten Tactics wrote...

RussianOrc wrote...I've also noticed by watching the ending that the destroy option is the only one wich shepard don't look like a husk before his death.anyone saw that?

What? Can someone elaborate?  I only did Destroy.

In Synthesis and Control, Shepard's skin turns black and she/he begins to take the appearance of a husk.  This could be a metaphor for falling under Reaper control.

HOLY you're right. How did that not register with me???

The only problem with this theory is that you need "dragon's teeth" to convert people into husks.

Untrue, Cerberus did it on Sanctuary.

[Kitten Tactics]

It is a metaphor for falling under reaper control, not Shepard actually turning in to a husk. Remember, theoretically none of this is real.

[thePredator50]

RussianOrc wrote...

thePredator50 wrote...

Here's one more thing I noticed that's "off" in the ending. Might be irrelevant, I might be wrong, but for better or worse:



At 7:30, human soldiers seem to be shooting at what appear to be Geth, not Reaper forces. Now, why would that be the case?

i think its a cannibal.

Possible, it's hard to make out. The lump on the right might be the Canibal's back or the tubes on the Geth's back.

[Animositisomina]

kyleh619 wrote...
Cerberus did not need dragon's teeth

A fair point; I hadn't considered that. They are using reaper tech in some form to do it though, aren't they?

[lavosslayer]

kyleh619 wrote...

Don't forget Shepard was unconscious for 2 days during the events of "The Arrival." Its a good amount of exposure for indoctrination.

You beat me to it...I was just about to bring this up!

Shepard began his trip down Indoctrination lane in the Arrival DLC...that was several months ago. Regardless of the short time he was exposed he was interacting directly with Harbinger via Object Rho...this is not a coincidence that all the other points made in this thread line up to the concept of indoctrination...we just haven't seen the real end of the Battle for Earth!

[DrDetective]

You don't need dragon's teeth to make husks. You just need the nanites the reapers use. The spikes are just to force an adrenaline surge that speeds up the transformation.

[Geda173]

DrDetective wrote...

You don't need dragon's teeth to make husks. You just need the nanites the reapers use. The spikes are just to force an adrenaline surge that speeds up the transformation.

Plus it looks really intimidating to an organic. Huge psychological effect there.

[AvianCat]

Animositisomina wrote...

kyleh619 wrote...
Cerberus did not need dragon's teeth

A fair point; I hadn't considered that. They are using reaper tech in some form to do it though, aren't they?

They most definately are, just not Dragon's Teeth. Keep in mind though that is all just metaphorical like Kitten Tactics said, if any of it is even true (which I sincerely hope it is).

[Sajuro]

Foulpancake wrote...

Sajuro wrote...

I don't know if you put this up, but if it is a hallucination then the Catalyst could have lied to you and when you use the synthesis option it makes everyone into the ultimate fusion of organic and synthetic, Reapers!
The scene where the Normandy crashes is just part of Shepard's dieing mind, and what he imagines would happen.

Ya, also notice the normandy crashing scene is before the shepard breathing scene in the good end. It doesn't really make a ton of sense why shepard would still see this if red = break control, but it still fits.

Maybe revision?:
I could see that happening as soon as the explosion from the conduit is about to engulf him, or control or synthesis, he just hopes his crew is able to safely make it out of there before whatever happens happens. That would explain why the Normandy would be in FTL at the time and why his love interest is with the Pilot that stuck with him the entire time, he just hopes they are both safe, right before he wakes up.

But a dieing dream could be from a mind that thinks its about to die rather than one that is dieing, think of it like An Occurence at Owl Creek Bridge

[dporowski]

That list is absurdly plausible. Like... Disturbingly so. Curious.

[Stalker]

As much as your theory is plausible, I think it's just a dream-thought.
I agree with every each of your points, but why would they do that? Why would BioWare force such a inconvenience throughout the fans? It makes sense from our point of view, but what about theirs?

[Ghrelt]

So is Shepard the Saren of ME3? The reapers are literally trying to talk him into giving up?

On another note: I like the term "indoctrination check" for the current ending.

[krystalevenstar]

On a totally unrelated but interesting note, while I was searching through the codex earlier I looked at the timeline and Shepard is 32 in this game, 29 in ME1. I guess I thought Shep was a lot older though XD