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[mr.surv]

http://imageupload.o...levels.jpg.html

This is the table with all cash and exp we get after doing major quests.

I didn't noticed that I get exp when I'm on Normandy again.

Also: 2k for endgame 1 and 2 and 3k for endgame 3?

[Ravax]

Hey duders, check these out:
http://kotaku.com/58...as-so-terrible/
http://www.g4tv.com/...ffect-3-ending/

[Richard0600]

twister87  wrote... 

In my mind, that's much better writing, because we are given a clear choice. There is still much left open to interpretation, but the questions those interpretations ask are interesting and not at all confusing. In the case of ME3, we are given 3 choices, and they seem all fairly straight forward, but after we make that choice, we are given a series of highly confusing (and quite samey) cut scenes with various squad mates on board a crashed Normandy after falling out of an FTL relay jump. That was highly unnecessary and added nothing to the end. I find it hard to fit that part in to the explanation offered by the thread.

Also, the fact that most people are not finding this explanation is a real problem. I did not think of it that way, and I'm betting a very large percentage of other players didn't either - it was left to a very philosophical and intelligent forumite to explain that for us. Which draws me around full circle - now that I've read it, it mostly makes sense and I can go along with it, but I would've liked to be able to see that in the first place from the game, without having to refer to the game's forum and find another player's interpretation.

I couldn't agree more I felt the cutscenes did not serve any purpose at all except arouse confusion and hatred. But what I do believe (I'm not sure if this was mentioned in that thread) is that it portrays Shepard coming to peace with her decision. It shows Shepards hopes, dreams and expectations from making her sacrifice.

 twister87  wrote...  

As a small footnote (following this explanation), isn't it a bit strange that a game that's all about choice, variation and directing your own destiny, actually now boils down to ONE SINGLE choice? I mean, the choices at face value are hardly different at all but yeah, just an observation.

Well that is to be determined in the future.. I am putting 100% faith in the fact that BioWare would not fck us over like this.. Honestly if this was really the ending to ME3 then I can see where all this rage is coming from.

But for now we can place our hope in this theory and hope that it is true because if it is.. then this is only the beginning. Casey Hudson stated before that your actions will determine the ending and so far the game has not played out that way.

Someone, somewhere mentioned that BioWare plans to hold a panel at some convention or something on April 3rd? I briefly read it somewhere. (If someone can confirm this than that would be great) but hopefully all our answers will be answered then.

Modifié par Richard0600, 13 mars 2012 - 12:24 .

[FrostByte-GER]

Hey guys is there something new? I'm actual in school...please tell it to me.

[Igib]

I just noticed... Shep's walking and talking like a half-dead, but the moment he/she starts firing (destroy option), he/she straighten up, suddenly full of energy. This has to mean something.

Another sign that we might be right?

[Vyrii]

Igib wrote...

I just noticed... Shep's walking and talking like a half-dead, but the moment he/she starts firing (destroy option), he/she straighten up, suddenly full of energy. This has to mean something.

Another sign that we might be right?

I took it more as a resolve to get the job done, but it could be interpreted that way.
I don't know what the other endings look like just before Shepard chooses, so I can't say for certain.
Remeber that I"m playing Devil's Advocate!

It could very well be that it is Shepard fighting off the indoctrination, i certainly hope so

Modifié par Vyrii, 13 mars 2012 - 12:30 .

[frajerik]

Igib wrote...

I just noticed... Shep's walking and talking like a half-dead, but the moment he/she starts firing (destroy option), he/she straighten up, suddenly full of energy. This has to mean something.

Another sign that we might be right?

He will gain strenght at control and synthesis too.

[Darjeer]

Igib wrote...

I just noticed... Shep's walking and talking like a half-dead, but the moment he/she starts firing (destroy option), he/she straighten up, suddenly full of energy. This has to mean something.

Another sign that we might be right?

It's really nothing. If you choose the synthesis ending, Shepard starts running and hurls himself into the beam.

[MRedfield]

FrostByte-GER wrote...

Hey guys is there something new? I'm actual in school...please tell it to me.

Nothing new yet.

BioWare is still using cryptic comments about it all and not confirming or denying anything.

[Evil_medved]

Vyrii wrote...

Igib wrote...

I just noticed... Shep's walking and talking like a half-dead, but the moment he/she starts firing (destroy option), he/she straighten up, suddenly full of energy. This has to mean something.

Another sign that we might be right?

I took it more as a resolve to get the job done, but it could be interpreted that way.
I don't know what the other endings look like just before Shepard chooses, so I can't say for certain.
Remeber that I"m playing Devil's Advocate!

It could very well be that it is Shepard fighting off the indoctrination, i certainly hope so

He drops his gun in other endings, so can be interpreted that he gives up. He also seems more weak in them.

[Darjeer]

Evil_medved wrote...

Vyrii wrote...

Igib wrote...

I just noticed... Shep's walking and talking like a half-dead, but the moment he/she starts firing (destroy option), he/she straighten up, suddenly full of energy. This has to mean something.

Another sign that we might be right?

I took it more as a resolve to get the job done, but it could be interpreted that way.
I don't know what the other endings look like just before Shepard chooses, so I can't say for certain.
Remeber that I"m playing Devil's Advocate!

It could very well be that it is Shepard fighting off the indoctrination, i certainly hope so

He drops his gun in other endings, so can be interpreted that he gives up. He also seems more weak in them.

Or he just doesn't need that fricking gun in those endings?

[kyrieee]

catgirl789 wrote...

DangerSandler wrote...

 "Cerberus must have been tipped off. They got here too fast" - Garrus
"Every war has it's traitors." - Liara.
I find that that little point never got resolved, I mean, is it possible that Shepard could have been subconciously feeding TIM/ The Reapers info? All of our thoughts fit the theory of indoctrination, but lack necessary evidence to prove it. It's maddening. 

Hey guys, not sure if this contributes in any way, but when you're first having a council with the krogans, turians, and salarians there is a little camera like angle that has that dark oiliness to it or at the very least looks kind of like in ME2 when the collector's are watching the Normandy. Perhaps that's when Cerberus found out about the female krogan? 

I really want this theory to be true, but we might have to accept that Bioware had a much different vision for the ending than we had.

Hmm, anyone have a video clip of this scene?

[Evil_medved]

Darjeer wrote...

Evil_medved wrote...

Vyrii wrote...

Igib wrote...

I just noticed... Shep's walking and talking like a half-dead, but the moment he/she starts firing (destroy option), he/she straighten up, suddenly full of energy. This has to mean something.

Another sign that we might be right?

I took it more as a resolve to get the job done, but it could be interpreted that way.
I don't know what the other endings look like just before Shepard chooses, so I can't say for certain.
Remeber that I"m playing Devil's Advocate!

It could very well be that it is Shepard fighting off the indoctrination, i certainly hope so

He drops his gun in other endings, so can be interpreted that he gives up. He also seems more weak in them.

Or he just doesn't need that fricking gun in those endings?

Indeed. As i said,  "it can be interpreted as".

[MDT1]

Igib wrote...

I just noticed... Shep's walking and talking like a half-dead, but the moment he/she starts firing (destroy option), he/she straighten up, suddenly full of energy. This has to mean something.

Another sign that we might be right?

Shepard also runs into the synthesis beam when you get close enough.

The only somewhat solid evidence we have that Shepard never left Earth is the small cutscene when he/she takes breath.
But to be hones, Shep already survived falling onto a planet, and with all the space magic the citadel has it wouldn't surprise me if thats the explanation ...

Modifié par MDT1, 13 mars 2012 - 12:36 .

[c.lazarus90]

BioWare propably just cut out the 'real' ending, to ensure none gets the spoiler. Thus they don't have to make this Patch/DLC, they actually have it. Just like some think that the Prothean-Story Arc was cut out of the original game.

[Spherexius]

I finished the game last night, and I've been thinking about this ever since. When the laser first hit and Shepard woke up, I was sure that it would be another dream sequence. It just felt extremely off.

The path up to the Catalyst is far too straightforward to be real. Why would the creators of the Citadel design it so that you have to go through the harvesting area, where there are hundreds of corpses lying around, then up a couple stairs and there you are. It's too convenient. The citadel is massive, and you luckily ended up not only in the location of the console, but also where the Catalyst is connected to the Citadel. The Citadel has already been beaming up people for a while, so why would the Reapers even feel the need to have the beam active if that's their only weakness?

It just doesn't add up.

Should this theory be true, there's a huge gap in the ending. Nothing was resolved, Shepard was either indoctrinated or he woke up in the rubble, and then what? The reapers most likely win in either scenario, depending on what happens if he wakes up. It's lazy, awful and nonsensical writing at best, and the more I think of it, the more I feel ripped off at what was supposed to be the most epic gaming moment in a decade for me.

None of the choices I made mattered. I got no sense of resolution at the end of the trilogy. I didn't even get to see the consequences of my actions. Who died, who lived, what happened to civilization?


If this ends up being a ploy to get people to purchase DLC with the "proper ending" later, it's an utterly disgusting business tactic, and it would probably mark the end of my love of Bioware games.

(Not to mention the whole From Ashes debacle. )

Modifié par Spherexius, 13 mars 2012 - 01:31 .

[njfluffy19]

Ravax wrote...

Hey duders, check these out:
http://kotaku.com/58...as-so-terrible/
http://www.g4tv.com/...ffect-3-ending/

Reporters shouldn't make articles if they don't know what the hell they're talking about. Kotaku is just another one. They like to roll their eyes and tell us to get over it when the game was packaged and sold as "choose the way it all ends." So excuse the thousands of us for being disappointed, but we were fooled (if this hallucination/indoctrination theory is incorrect) and falsely sold on the conclusion of an epic trilogy.

They always talk about the people raging-- what about the people who are disheartened?

[Lurchibald]

Lambchopz wrote...

Wattoes wrote...

I will say that Gamble's quote referenced earlier:
"Hardest. Day. Ever. Seriously, if you people knew all the stuff we are planning...you'd, we'll - hold onto your copy of me3 forever."

... gave me hope. Not born out of disappointment, but because I want to know what happened next. I'm so invested in these characters and worlds, I want to know that what I did benefited them in some way.

He doesnt want you to trade it in immediately and cost them money.

Trading it in wouldn't cost BioWare money, this reasoning is a bit flawed.

It's likely he is trying to build up anticipation for some yet to be seen DLC, but that still doesn't mean it's going to be a new ending.

Wouldn't cost them money? Bioware make no money off of Pre-Purchased games unless people pay for DLC, but that $50-$80 initial amount for the actual game is a loss if not bought new.

[Invellous]

 I must admit it is a good theory, beautiful even. And it does makes a lot of sense. I went through the other two choices after making my original choice, which was to destroy the Reaper. Yet none of them felt 'right'. Even if Shepard was to die, it was just wrong. I am amazed how I missed a lot of the things you pointed out. Like Shepard awaking in pile of rubble, breathing...

 I can believe that Bioware would do that they are more then creative enough, and have some awesome Writers. I really hope this Thoery is more then a Thoery. Looking forward to some DLC. Thank you for you are hard work in bringing this to light.

[njfluffy19]

MDT1 wrote...

Igib wrote...

I just noticed... Shep's walking and talking like a half-dead, but the moment he/she starts firing (destroy option), he/she straighten up, suddenly full of energy. This has to mean something.

Another sign that we might be right?

Shepard also runs into the synthesis beam when you get close enough.

The only somewhat solid evidence we have that Shepard never left Earth is the small cutscene when he/she takes breath.
But to be hones, Shep already survived falling onto a planet, and with all the space magic the citadel has it wouldn't surprise me if thats the explanation ...

It is said that you were dead on Alchera, but your brain wasn't entirely toasted.

[Ravax]

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[Descedent]

if it's dlc....right now after beating it, and you end back up on normandy your quest is the priority:cerberus headquarters.... so would we have to play through alllllll that again just to get the very last lazer beam from Harbinger... ???

[Wallace West]

VyRianS wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Jesus H Christ...

It just occurred to me.

What if this theory is absolutely correct...

And Bioware, not wanting to risk another leak of their ending has chosen instead to make it to where the ending is not part of the original game... until a patch comes in when it is available in every region?

Think about it, they radically changed the game from the leaked scripts, why didn't they change things when THE ENDING VIDEOS themselves were leaked? Why did they give a statement saying "yup, those are pretty much it."

Otherwise, why the silence, if they aren't planning something? Why the fact that they have barely let out any info, beyond cryptic hints of "Just wait and see, can't comment yet."

It might be wishful thinking, but right now, I believe that Bioware has the entire ending all set up and ready... to be released in a patch when the game itself has reached maximum saturation.

It's like a magic show, the magician seems competent up until the end, when suddenly he starts failing, badly, and then, at the last moment, to the entire audience's suprise, he pulls off his biggest trick yet, to roaring applause.

I would love this as well. But don't forget BW is now run financially by EA, so all release/DLC decisions are made by EA. It is highly unlikely they would do something like this... it is financially unsound for the company. The only feasible course of action now would be that BW realizes their screwup, and issues an ending DLC, apologizing for the error OR saying this was the way they wanted it all along (which would be rubbish).

Crazy sure...but rubbish?...I don't  think so.  I mean look at where we are now? 300+ pages, over 19,000 likes on the facebook page and the polls are steadily growing by the second. Like many has said, this could either be the biggest ball being dropped in ****ing history or the most magnificent ploy that any game company has ever attempted. It's basically the most insane Post-game ARG (if it turns out to be true). Thousands of disillusioned people banning together and fighting a seemingly unfathomable enemy? Sounds familiar... 

[Tashakov]

MDT1 wrote...
But to be hones, Shep already survived falling onto a planet, and with all the space magic the citadel has it wouldn't surprise me if thats the explanation ...

Last time, she had armor. And a helmet. And was *still* dead. The only reason she was brought back was because said helmet kept her brain intact, according to the Lazerus logs.

Sadly, yes. Space magic invalidates everything. If Bioware wanted to, they could have her breakdancing through the atmosphere, only to land on the Statue of Liberty in a disco pose.

This is why I hate space magic.

[Darth Taurus]

njfluffy19 wrote...

Ravax wrote...

Hey duders, check these out:
http://kotaku.com/58...as-so-terrible/
http://www.g4tv.com/...ffect-3-ending/

Reporters shouldn't make articles if they don't know what the hell they're talking about. Kotaku is just another one. They like to roll their eyes and tell us to get over it when the game was packaged and sold as "choose the way it all ends." So excuse the thousands of us for being disappointed, but we were fooled (if this hallucination/indoctrination theory is incorrect) and falsely sold on the conclusion of an epic trilogy.

They always talk about the people raging-- what about the people who are disheartened?

Today jornalist are not jornalist. They only make angry posts to gain audience. I study the defence sector and it's all the same thing. A great part of the media says bull**** and the minority make good stuff