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[ArkkAngel007]

mr.surv wrote...

hmmm.

Maybe I miss something in whole series... but did Protheans ever build synthetics?
If not.....

Not to my knowledge.  Protheans had a hatred of synthetics and did not believe they could coexist.  A race during the Prothean cycle had created A.I.s that actually took complete control of their makers and destroyed them.

[VyRianS]

Wuyunk wrote...

Lost Cipher wrote...

I want this theory to right, however when March 15th comes and nothing is said will you still believe?

I will.

I believe Bioware did this because, well... its awesome, trying to trick players like this, its different. I'm not of the opinion they've done ALL of this just to hide the final ending from being leaked.

So come the 15th, I don't see why they wouldn't wait atleast a week after that to let the East get this ending too, and then patch it with a conclusion, if thats what they're even going to do :/

Doubt they would wait much longer after the Eastern release. Every day they wait more and more players are abandoning their game. So its not so much about profits in this case (since EA has already received the retailers' check), rather more of a move to maintain fanbase integrity.

[Golferguy758]

Golferguy758 wrote...

Would like to point out a couple things that will inevitably ve buried. One. Indoctrination involves ghosts whispering to you. in the dreams throughout the game ghosts of you dead team whisper to you. You also see ghosts in your dreams exemplified by the black oil tendrils

[Mini Jo]

mr.surv wrote...

hmmm.

Maybe I miss something in whole series... but did Protheans ever build synthetics?
If not.....

No but Javik talks about a race of his time that got screwed over by the synthetic they created (in a really pretentious way).

[ComfortablyNumb]

Noob451 wrote...
well it's a bunch of people working together to figure out one thing, theres bound to be progress.

Amazing what people can come up with, when they get together. Shepard would be proud  [smilie]../../../../images/forum/emoticons/grin.png[/smilie]

[themidz]

Elenterx wrote...

Anyone else pissed off at that IGN article talking about ME3 Multiplayer dlc coming up?

i dont think that is bad news at all.. it is good that bioware is working on something and this new player pack can be also part of our 
ending dlc..

Modifié par themidz, 13 mars 2012 - 04:44 .

[Auresta]

Golferguy758 wrote...

Golferguy758 wrote...

Would like to point out a couple things that will inevitably ve buried. One. Indoctrination involves ghosts whispering to you. in the dreams throughout the game ghosts of you dead team whisper to you. You also see ghosts in your dreams exemplified by the black oil tendrils

Addressed throughout the thread. But thank you for reviving it for those who have missed it.

[Schief724]

Is it just me or can you see Ashley and Garrus dead when Shepard stumbles over before the husks come out? Can anybody confirm that if these players are seen dead, do they come out of the Normandy with Joker in the ending scene?

Modifié par Schief724, 13 mars 2012 - 04:44 .

[Tsantilas]

mr.surv wrote...

hmmm.

Maybe I miss something in whole series... but did Protheans ever build synthetics?
If not.....

In the From Ashes DLC Javik mentions there was a similar incident with a race of organics that used synthetics implants that eventually became self aware and took over the host body.

[Auresta]

Schief724 wrote...



Is it just me or can you see Ashley and Garrus dead when Shepard stumbles over before the husks come out? Can anybody confirm that if these players are seen dead, do they come out of the Normandy with Joker in the ending scene?

They come out dead on the run down with low EMS, they don't if you have high EMS. In either case, they show up on the Normandy.

[Darjeer]

MDT1 wrote...

Darjeer wrote...

cobnut wrote...

Darjeer wrote...
*snip*

Shepard hallucinates everything after the laser beam due to his indoctrination and wakes up after he made the right choice and beats the reaper in his mind. Nothing you mentioned speaks against this theory.

Nothing? I thought I was pretty clear about what speaks against it, namely the whole "Crucible has been destroyed" -part.

The only way this hallucination theory would makes sense for me is when I expect a DLC with an additional level, where you realy defeat the reapers after you wake up in front of the beam.

But the "Crucible has been destroyed" part doesn't make sense if the Catalyst is was he says to be either.
He want's Shepard to choose and sees that something has to be changed.

I agree with the DLC part, but don't so much with the "Crucible has been destroyed". Catalyst is the main force behind the whole reaper threat, so we might have to throw benelovent god -assumptions out of the window. Wouldn't this whole ending scenario be win-win-win-win for Catalyst? Synthesis would be permanent solution to his problem, control would leave all the reapers alive, destroy would pretty much be the reset they try to achieve as it destroys synthetics from galaxy and doing nothing would destroy Crucible and ensure that reapers can just continue with their plan.

Modifié par Darjeer, 13 mars 2012 - 04:50 .

[Lambchopz]

mr.surv wrote...

hmmm.

Maybe I miss something in whole series... but did Protheans ever build synthetics?
If not.....

Yeah, Javik says one of the main reasons the Protheans became a ruthless Empire and aggressively assimilated all Organic races was, in fact, to fight the Prothean equivalent of the Geth. This was before the Reapers in their cycle, so technically Vent Kid's claims about synthetics do hold some ground there.

Without becoming a bloodthirsty Empire, apparently they would have likely been over run and conquered by the machines he talks about. It wasn't until the Reapers showed up to aid them that they got the upper hand though.

Sounds like BioWare saying "See! Star Child's logic works!..... In some cycles!"

[ArkkAngel007]

Schief724 wrote...



Is it just me or can you see Ashley and Garrus dead when Shepard stumbles over before the husks come out? Can anybody confirm that if these players are seen dead, do they come out of the Normandy with Joker in the ending scene?

Ashley and Liara weren't dead on the field, and I saw Ash exit the Normandy with Joker and EDI after my big mistake.  I don't know if they can be seen dead and be alive on the Normandy though.

[Sns1227]

This thread is awesome. I don't have anything much to add other than what people have already said,but when Shepard speaks to the Child, he seems uncharacteristically resigned and polite. He doesn't question the child's appearance either, even though he has seen the child before( if that was real at all),which would have been the rational thing to do."Hey, haven't I seen you before?"
or something like that.
Also, even though this is off-topic, wouldn't Mad World have made an awesome background score for the hallucination? 'And I find it kind of funny, I find it kind of sad that the dreams in which I'm dying are the best I've ever had..'

[Evindell]

Tsantilas wrote...

mr.surv wrote...

hmmm.

Maybe I miss something in whole series... but did Protheans ever build synthetics?
If not.....

In the From Ashes DLC Javik mentions there was a similar incident with a race of organics that used synthetics implants that eventually became self aware and took over the host body.

Okay, so it wasn't them, but someone during their cycle. All I could remember was that he mentioned a similar incident as what is happening between the Quarians and the Geth.

[ArkkAngel007]

Lambchopz wrote...

mr.surv wrote...

hmmm.

Maybe I miss something in whole series... but did Protheans ever build synthetics?
If not.....

Yeah, Javik says one of the main reasons the Protheans became a ruthless Empire and aggressively assimilated all Organic races was, in fact, to fight the Prothean equivalent of the Geth. This was before the Reapers in their cycle, so technically Vent Kid's claims about synthetics do hold some ground there.

Without becoming a bloodthirsty Empire, apparently they would have likely been over run and conquered by the machines he talks about. It wasn't until the Reapers showed up to aid them that they got the upper hand though.

Sounds like BioWare saying "See! Star Child's logic works!..... In some cycles!"

I think the way Javik puts it is that their mission was pointless in the end, as it was already clear, in reference to the Reapers, that synthetics had superceded organics, and had a long time ago.

The fact that the synthetics were able to actually control the mind and bodies of their makers...it reminded me of Synthesis in a way.  

Modifié par ArkkAngel007, 13 mars 2012 - 04:50 .

[LolaLei]

Also, we have no idea what Cerberus installed on the Normandy when they recreated it in ME2, who's to say TiM didn't use Reaper tech to form the structure of the ship?

[Trooper04]

Agh! I hope BioWare mentions something soon.

[kyrieee]

Evindell wrote...

mr.surv wrote...

hmmm.

Maybe I miss something in whole series... but did Protheans ever build synthetics?
If not.....

I believe Javik says they did.

His race didn't, but others in his cycle did

[Ravax]

Ok, so has anyone seen any recent feedback from any of the Bioware dudes recently? twitter etc..?

[mr.surv]

Lambchopz wrote...

mr.surv wrote...

hmmm.

Maybe I miss something in whole series... but did Protheans ever build synthetics?
If not.....

Yeah, Javik says one of the main reasons the Protheans became a ruthless Empire and aggressively assimilated all Organic races was, in fact, to fight the Prothean equivalent of the Geth. This was before the Reapers in their cycle, so technically Vent Kid's claims about synthetics do hold some ground there.

Without becoming a bloodthirsty Empire, apparently they would have likely been over run and conquered by the machines he talks about. It wasn't until the Reapers showed up to aid them that they got the upper hand though.

Sounds like BioWare saying "See! Star Child's logic works!..... In some cycles!"

What about Shep visions in ME 1? , Protheans look a bit different than Javik ( also in ME2 harvesters look more like him ) and there was scene with electric thing mixed with organic. mindblow

[MDT1]

Darjeer wrote...

I agree with the DLC part, but don't so much with the "Crucible has been destroyed". Catalyst is the main force behind the whole reaper threat, so we might have to throw benelovent god -assumptions out of the window. Wouldn't this whole ending scenario be win-win-win-win for Catalyst? Synthesis would be permanent solution to his problem, control would leave all the reapers alive, destroy would pretty much be the reset they try to achieve and doing nothing would destroy Crucible and ensure that reapers can just continue with their plan.

But the catalyst says this proves that the cycle doesn't work any more, he agrees that action must be taken.
If he is what he claims to be he has no intention to lie here but to help Shepard and meanwhile preventing the reapers to destroy the crucible.
But if he is not what he claims to be, ME3 can't be finished yet.

Modifié par MDT1, 13 mars 2012 - 04:54 .

[Ona Demonie]

Schief724 wrote...



Is it just me or can you see Ashley and Garrus dead when Shepard stumbles over before the husks come out? Can anybody confirm that if these players are seen dead, do they come out of the Normandy with Joker in the ending scene?

The two squadmates you take with you during the final push can be seen dead IF you have a Low EMS. I took Garrus and Javik with me on my push and their bodies weren't there. In the Normandy scene, Joker, Kaidan (my LI), and Javik came out. Joker + LI + Closest Friend comes out if you have high EMS. Thus, if you don't see your two squadmates dead in front of the beam, you have high EMS.

[Noob451]

LolaLei wrote...

Also, we have no idea what Cerberus installed on the Normandy when they recreated it in ME2, who's to say TiM didn't use Reaper tech to form the structure of the ship?

parts from sovereign were used to make the SR2 and EDI (EDI was also the rogue VI on luna idk if that's worth mentioning)

Modifié par Noob451, 13 mars 2012 - 04:53 .