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[Ravax]

Compendium of recent relevant tweets:

@masseffect @c4rniv0r3 So basically your saying, "tough luck, we don't care" Just a lovely attitude.
Mass Effect Mass Effect ‏ @masseffect

@smokey38555 That wasn't actually what we said at all. We hope players have enjoyed playing the games.

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@masseffect Why is there no reaction to your loyal fanbase? You know what I'm talkin about. Please respond.
Mass Effect Mass Effect ‏ @masseffect

@khrebornfx We hear what our community is saying, thank you for your input.

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@masseffect @jacob_babler When someone leaked the script, didn't you change the ending to crappy one?
Mass Effect Mass Effect ‏ @masseffect

@tensa_zangetsu3 Um....no. Nothing was ever "changed"

[ArkkAngel007]

Capeo wrote...


Dude, I'm just telling you what the script says not what I think.  All the endings suck in my view.  This is also the reason why control and destroy open before Synergy.  

The script didn't mention the stranding of the Normandy or what actually happens after that choice, including the epilogue.  You just get "Shep dies, Earth destroyed, Reapers live" notes and that's it.  Not everything in the script is in the game, and vice-versa.  We see the Prothean dialogue in the script, but the Eden Prime mission is entirely absent.

What was in the script was what we got on the retail, and some of that wasn't even present, and some things were slightly changed or added to. 

The script also doesn't delve behind the reasoning.  There are some event notes setting the scene, dialogue, import and decision markers, text for the codex and planets, and power/squad descriptions and markers.  That's it.

If BioWare is developing the ending separately (heck the Joker lines that were found weren't in the script), you aren't going to find it in the script.  Perfect Ending could also mean perfect for the Reapers, not Shepard.  

Modifié par ArkkAngel007, 13 mars 2012 - 06:00 .

[PrivateFrost]

Ravax wrote...

Compendium of recent relevant tweets:

@masseffect @c4rniv0r3 So basically your saying, "tough luck, we don't care" Just a lovely attitude.
Mass Effect Mass Effect ‏ @masseffect

@smokey38555 That wasn't actually what we said at all. We hope players have enjoyed playing the games.

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@masseffect Why is there no reaction to your loyal fanbase? You know what I'm talkin about. Please respond.
Mass Effect Mass Effect ‏ @masseffect

@khrebornfx We hear what our community is saying, thank you for your input.

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@masseffect @jacob_babler When someone leaked the script, didn't you change the ending to crappy one?
Mass Effect Mass Effect ‏ @masseffect

@tensa_zangetsu3 Um....no. Nothing was ever "changed"

The guy who has to answer to all those tweets, I kind of feel sorry for him. But not much, because he won't answer anything ;-;

[Falar]

anorling wrote...

Sadly I think that people is just grasping for straws here. This is the endings we get. And BW is not going to change that. Any DLC coming for ME3 in the future will probably be aimed toward the multiplayer part. And if they are planning releasing any single player DLC you can bet that it wont be a "post ending" DLC. Probably just some alternate outfits, new weapons and stuff like that. Any new missions will just take place before the ending(s). Sad but true. Either way they are not getting my money again. Im done with this game. Not even going to bother with a second playthrough.

I'm not so sure about that:

[BlackDragonBane]

anorling wrote...

Sadly I think that people is just grasping for straws here. This is the endings we get. And BW is not going to change that. Any DLC coming for ME3 in the future will probably be aimed toward the multiplayer part. And if they are planning releasing any single player DLC you can bet that it wont be a "post ending" DLC. Probably just some alternate outfits, new weapons and stuff like that. Any new missions will just take place before the ending(s). Sad but true. Either way they are not getting my money again. Im done with this game. Not even going to bother with a second playthrough.

Maybe you should actually read the first post and all the imagry and video compiled first.

If this was simply grasping at straws, why would we be finding all these large hints at indoctrination within the game itself? There are too many 'mistakes' from the ending that wouldn't warrant poor over-sight on Bioware's part. They've screwed up before (DA2's ending being set no matter what) but a screw up this big would mean that the devs are completely morons once they reached the apex of the story.

Or they're plotting something, which sounds very Bioware like.

[Prince Keldar]

Droghan wrote...

 I personally think hes been fighting the indoctrination since at least the start of the game possibly earlier.  The dream sequences all have those dark ghosts and the undiscernable chatter in the background, plus it fits with whatelse everyone is stating.  Sadly I didnt even put 2 and 2 together and went with the Synthesis option so I will have to go through and get some more war assets and see if I can keep Shep alive at the end.

And those dreams were of course when he was sleeping and in a relaxed state.  Indoctrination could work better than when he is awake.  Also, most of the game he his on a mission focused on an objective indoctrination dosen't work as well but when he sleeps or gets knocked unconcious by the beam by Harbinger, he is relaxed or weakened if you will.

By the way I am so glad I found this because until yesterday I was having some very bad thoughts about Bioware but now...............................i am not so sure if I was correct about them.

[mmL]

anorling wrote...

Sadly I think that people is just grasping for straws here. This is the endings we get. And BW is not going to change that. Any DLC coming for ME3 in the future will probably be aimed toward the multiplayer part. And if they are planning releasing any single player DLC you can bet that it wont be a "post ending" DLC. Probably just some alternate outfits, new weapons and stuff like that. Any new missions will just take place before the ending(s). Sad but true. Either way they are not getting my money again. Im done with this game. Not even going to bother with a second playthrough.

Sounds like you're too frustrated right now to see more than "Bioware sucks". Everything we're discussion is possible, even plausible. What Bioware has up their sleeve, or if they have anything up their sleeve, we have no way of knowing until things go boom. Give it some time and think about it rationally

[Fattness132]

Bigdoser wrote...

This is what someone said in another topic.


For those who missed it, let me bring up something that is probably buried under about a hundred pages.

If you have a low EMS, the starchild says in an angry tone "Why are you here"
If you have a high EMS, the starchild says in a less intimidating tone "Wake up"

My
explanation is if Shepherd could only gather a small fleet (low EMS)
then he obviously didn't live up to the reapers' expectation, they will
deem him unworthy of indoctrinating, which is why the starchild said
'why are you here' (assuming the whole choices thing is an attempt to
indoctrinate him). In this scenario, Shepherd is expandable to the
reapers.

However if shepherd could gather a strong fleet (high
EMS), then the reapers will deem Shepherd as a potential threat, they
see power in Shpeherd that they can't comprehend, it's only natural that
they would want to posses his powers to ensure successful harvest in
future cycles, which is why they presented him with the control and
sythesis option, since those two choices will allow the reapers to fully
indoctrinate him.

Makes sense?

The "wake up" line could also refer to someone actually talking to Shepard in reality. High ems = more people might beable to get to shepard and help him/her after getting hit by Harbinger.

[Noob451]

Ravax wrote...

Compendium of recent relevant tweets:

@masseffect @c4rniv0r3 So basically your saying, "tough luck, we don't care" Just a lovely attitude.
Mass Effect Mass Effect ‏ @masseffect

@smokey38555 That wasn't actually what we said at all. We hope players have enjoyed playing the games.

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@masseffect Why is there no reaction to your loyal fanbase? You know what I'm talkin about. Please respond.
Mass Effect Mass Effect ‏ @masseffect

@khrebornfx We hear what our community is saying, thank you for your input.

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@masseffect @jacob_babler When someone leaked the script, didn't you change the ending to crappy one?
Mass Effect Mass Effect ‏ @masseffect

@tensa_zangetsu3 Um....no. Nothing was ever "changed"

theres something that they're not allowed to tell us.

Modifié par Noob451, 13 mars 2012 - 05:55 .

[camcon2100]

anorling wrote...

Sadly I think that people is just grasping for straws here. This is the endings we get. And BW is not going to change that. Any DLC coming for ME3 in the future will probably be aimed toward the multiplayer part. And if they are planning releasing any single player DLC you can bet that it wont be a "post ending" DLC. Probably just some alternate outfits, new weapons and stuff like that. Any new missions will just take place before the ending(s). Sad but true. Either way they are not getting my money again. Im done with this game. Not even going to bother with a second playthrough.

Honestly we arn't graping at straws. The evidence is there. Its BLATENLY there. Look through for yourself and tell me you don't see a connection. Plus all the Coy twitter posts..

[Darjeer]

Fledgey wrote...

mr.surv wrote...

http://imageshack.us.../834/4534n.jpg/

different endings

"OMGHub"
and then at the top you can see "cithub" I assume meaning citadel hub. So Omega hub? Oh god.

If there's nothing else starting with "Omg" it might be referring to Grissom Academy as videos related to that place start with OmgJck.

[holyshock18]

Falar wrote...

anorling wrote...

Sadly I think that people is just grasping for straws here. This is the endings we get. And BW is not going to change that. Any DLC coming for ME3 in the future will probably be aimed toward the multiplayer part. And if they are planning releasing any single player DLC you can bet that it wont be a "post ending" DLC. Probably just some alternate outfits, new weapons and stuff like that. Any new missions will just take place before the ending(s). Sad but true. Either way they are not getting my money again. Im done with this game. Not even going to bother with a second playthrough.

I'm not so sure about that:

Okay now i am begining to be sure that there will come some sort of answer soon. They cant keep lying. I just dont believe it

[Lugaidster]

I'd say a more telling tweet was a retweet from MikeGamble:

https://twitter.com/#!/GambleMike

It basically points to an article from penny arcade explaining why the current ending is good as it is... If that isn't hope-shattering I don't know what is...

[AscendBaldur]

PrivateFrost wrote...

Ravax wrote...

Compendium of recent relevant tweets:

@masseffect @c4rniv0r3 So basically your saying, "tough luck, we don't care" Just a lovely attitude.
Mass Effect Mass Effect ‏ @masseffect

@smokey38555 That wasn't actually what we said at all. We hope players have enjoyed playing the games.

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@masseffect Why is there no reaction to your loyal fanbase? You know what I'm talkin about. Please respond.
Mass Effect Mass Effect ‏ @masseffect

@khrebornfx We hear what our community is saying, thank you for your input.

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@masseffect @jacob_babler When someone leaked the script, didn't you change the ending to crappy one?
Mass Effect Mass Effect ‏ @masseffect

@tensa_zangetsu3 Um....no. Nothing was ever "changed"

The guy who has to answer to all those tweets, I kind of feel sorry for him. But not much, because he won't answer anything ;-;

As we have already discussed they are under an NDA (Non Disclosure Agreement). They can't say anything definitive until that NDA is over.

[savionen]

For the 20th time quit trying to use @masseffect's tweets as evidence for or against anything.

1) It's most likely just a PR person that knows nothing about the endings.
2) If they DO know something, they're not allowed to talk about it, and even hinting at something could get them fired.

[RobT2012]

Capeo wrote...

Dessalines wrote...

Capeo wrote...

There is no hallucination. The Synergy ending opens last. It's easier to get control and destroy. The leaked script goes so far to say that the Synergy ending is the "perfect ending" that you're working towards. Not to mention the epilogue fires no matter what and it clearly shows that the Reapers have been defeated and the relays are gone. None of that would make sense if were an indoctrinated hallucination.

Actually, the shepard lives in the hardest to get.

So?  That doesn't mean it's the "perfect ending".  That ending is in the script, yet the script is clear that the "perfect ending", in those exact words, is the Synergy Ending.  Why do you think they went through so much trouble to humanize synthetics?  The "perfect ending" in BW's view is the one where organics and synthetics are forever joined removing the worry about a singularity ever again.

I dont think so... synergy leads to homogenisation of the galatic community, everyone every race part organic part machine. There is no variance. Javik states its this cycles variations and differences that provide its greatest chance of survival. Also it totally goes against the moral lines that studios/developers/directors always push in these sorts of open ended decisions...... variety and difference is always good, everyone migrating to be the same is always a bad choice.

[Noob451]

camcon2100 wrote...

anorling wrote...

Sadly I think that people is just grasping for straws here. This is the endings we get. And BW is not going to change that. Any DLC coming for ME3 in the future will probably be aimed toward the multiplayer part. And if they are planning releasing any single player DLC you can bet that it wont be a "post ending" DLC. Probably just some alternate outfits, new weapons and stuff like that. Any new missions will just take place before the ending(s). Sad but true. Either way they are not getting my money again. Im done with this game. Not even going to bother with a second playthrough.

Honestly we arn't graping at straws. The evidence is there. Its BLATENLY there. Look through for yourself and tell me you don't see a connection. Plus all the Coy twitter posts..

Emergency Induction Ports....

[Monochrome Wench]

BlackDragonBane wrote...

Fledgey wrote...

mr.surv wrote...

http://imageshack.us.../834/4534n.jpg/

different endings

"OMGHub"
and then at the top you can see "cithub" I assume meaning citadel hub. So Omega hub? Oh god.

Are we sure those files aren't already what we see in the ending?

They are not. The actual ending files have different names to those ones. There are no EndGm* files anywhere. The actual endgame files are End03_*

[MDT1]

Elendstourist wrote...

Fledgey wrote...

https://twitter.com/...620565160706048
I... erm... well...

Is that good or bad for the indoctrination theory?

Neither good nor bad.

It could mean, the ending is the ending as it is.
It could mean that since the leake nothing was changed.
It could mean that they planned it all along and the ending dlc is ready.
It could even mean nop plan was changed ever = we get the dark energy ending after the hallucination.

[PrivateFrost]

AscendBaldur wrote...

PrivateFrost wrote...

Ravax wrote...

Compendium of recent relevant tweets:

@masseffect @c4rniv0r3 So basically your saying, "tough luck, we don't care" Just a lovely attitude.
Mass Effect Mass Effect ‏ @masseffect

@smokey38555 That wasn't actually what we said at all. We hope players have enjoyed playing the games.

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@masseffect Why is there no reaction to your loyal fanbase? You know what I'm talkin about. Please respond.
Mass Effect Mass Effect ‏ @masseffect

@khrebornfx We hear what our community is saying, thank you for your input.

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@masseffect @jacob_babler When someone leaked the script, didn't you change the ending to crappy one?
Mass Effect Mass Effect ‏ @masseffect

@tensa_zangetsu3 Um....no. Nothing was ever "changed"

The guy who has to answer to all those tweets, I kind of feel sorry for him. But not much, because he won't answer anything ;-;

As we have already discussed they are under an NDA (Non Disclosure Agreement). They can't say anything definitive until that NDA is over.

Oh, okay. Sorry for that then 

[Fledgey]

Darjeer wrote...

Fledgey wrote...

mr.surv wrote...

http://imageshack.us.../834/4534n.jpg/

different endings

"OMGHub"
and then at the top you can see "cithub" I assume meaning citadel hub. So Omega hub? Oh god.

If there's nothing else starting with "Omg" it might be referring to Grissom Academy as videos related to that place start with OmgJck.

Ah, thanks for the clarification. I was just hoping for more hubs than just the citadel :<

[AnnaExMachina]

I love you thread.

[Ravax]

Noob451 wrote...

Ravax wrote...

Compendium of recent relevant tweets:

@masseffect @c4rniv0r3 So basically your saying, "tough luck, we don't care" Just a lovely attitude.
Mass Effect Mass Effect ‏ @masseffect

@smokey38555 That wasn't actually what we said at all. We hope players have enjoyed playing the games.

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@masseffect Why is there no reaction to your loyal fanbase? You know what I'm talkin about. Please respond.
Mass Effect Mass Effect ‏ @masseffect

@khrebornfx We hear what our community is saying, thank you for your input.

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@masseffect @jacob_babler When someone leaked the script, didn't you change the ending to crappy one?
Mass Effect Mass Effect ‏ @masseffect

@tensa_zangetsu3 Um....no. Nothing was ever "changed"

theres something that they're not allowed to tell us.

his guy has absolutely no authority whatsoever to comment on anything... The legal rammifications of a PR incident that he could start could be staggering... He's not even there to do damage control, just to give the illusion of 'presence' on twitter so that the entire fandom doesnt think they 'vanished into thin air'...

[JulienJaden]

Lambchopz wrote...

Aesthyr wrote...

holyshock18 wrote...

Smiley556 wrote...

http://social.biowar...ex/9872108&lf=8
check the link he refers to

Isent that kinda what we are thinking here. And dosent a Bioware employer Speficaly point him to that theory?? So what does that mean. Does that mean we really nailed it or?

Hmm

Sounds like confirmation right there.

This is the only thing I've seen come directly from BioWare so far that is actually starting to wear off my skepticism and start to wonder if they do intend to expand in this way.

Still being cautious though, it may still be a simple BioWare damage control/deflection tactic.

That link is a hint, in my opinion. Also, check out the youtube link in the explanation thread the mod has linked to. It starts with some twitter screenshots that are pointing in the direction of the indoctrination theory with the freaking Eiffel Tower.

[mmL]

PrivateFrost wrote...

Ravax wrote...

Compendium of recent relevant tweets:

@masseffect @c4rniv0r3 So basically your saying, "tough luck, we don't care" Just a lovely attitude.
Mass Effect Mass Effect ‏ @masseffect

@smokey38555 That wasn't actually what we said at all. We hope players have enjoyed playing the games.

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@masseffect Why is there no reaction to your loyal fanbase? You know what I'm talkin about. Please respond.
Mass Effect Mass Effect ‏ @masseffect

@khrebornfx We hear what our community is saying, thank you for your input.

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@masseffect @jacob_babler When someone leaked the script, didn't you change the ending to crappy one?
Mass Effect Mass Effect ‏ @masseffect

@tensa_zangetsu3 Um....no. Nothing was ever "changed"

The guy who has to answer to all those tweets, I kind of feel sorry for him. But not much, because he won't answer anything ;-;

I feel sorry for the guy from Bioware who has read all the 300+ pages in this thread. I'm sure they took notice, and are following all of this. Which means...


Hello there person working for Bioware and reading all this. Perhaps you're not alone, and you're actually a team, wading through these posts. Give us more hints. We desperately need them

Also, here's something for you if you need a break:
http://www.cad-comic.com/cad/20120309