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[DizzyKa]

k8ee wrote...

This isn't the one I originally saw, but it shows you the worst outcome. You can also clearly see a dead Garrus in this version. (sadness)

I can't quite tell... but it looks like in the worst ending both choices are paragon? Or neither is paragon or renegade but neither has color?

[lookingglassmind]

Hi, guys!

I had to sleep, so I've missed the part where the thread jumped from 260 pages to 332.

Any new, significant developments?

[Noob451]

Debi-Tage wrote...

Okay for those of you against the this theory - tell me: Right after Shepard walks into the beam and travels up to the Citadel why is it that the very first thing you see is Harbinger sitting at his usual computer terminal looking back as Shepard makes a grunting sound as she wakes up around all the dead bodies?

wait...what?

[pfeenix]

mr.surv wrote...

hmmm.

Maybe I miss something in whole series... but did Protheans ever build synthetics?
If not.....

If you completed the From Ashes DLC, Javik does mention something about that...

[Gamingtrek12025]

Turtlicious wrote...

I'm grasping at straws.

Garrison Scott ‏ @gman214

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@masseffect too late, already into my third play through of #ME3.....its like the game is indoctrinating me! Did you sell me reaper tech?
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@gman214 No way! *innocent eyes*
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Beat me to it xD. Most promising eveence from their side so far.

[holyshock18]

Lugaidster wrote...

Lugaidster wrote...

I'd say a more telling tweet was a retweet from MikeGamble:

https://twitter.com/#!/GambleMike

It basically points to an article from penny arcade explaining why the current ending is good as it is... If that isn't hope-shattering I don't know what is...

Did you guys intentionally ignored this? Please _do_ check it out!

Well that is not and officialy bioware who been out saying that. That is some of the so called Journalist who think they are more inluminating than the rest of us. The other post i linked is some actuly bioware forum person who gave a hint.

I am not giving up hope on that one

[ComfortablyNumb]

Lurchibald wrote...

From the codex

Mass Effect Codex wrote...

Reapers: Indoctrination

Organics undergoing indoctrination may complain of headaches and buzzing or ringing in their ears. As time passes, they have feelings of "being watched" and hallucinations of "ghostly" presences.

This could explain those ghostly figures in Shepard's weird deams.

Modifié par mrufka_z, 13 mars 2012 - 06:10 .

[Wuyunk]

Elendstourist wrote...

Fledgey wrote...

https://twitter.com/...620565160706048
I... erm... well...

Is that good or bad for the indoctrination theory?

If they had said "Um... No. Nothing was ever changed" without the quotations it would indicate that nothing was ever changed from the script.

With the quotations around "changed" like it is, it implies that nothing was ever changed in the way that person was using the word "changed".

Just how I took it anyways.

[mariosgh]

Ok, assume theory of hallucination or indoctrination is right. Natural consequence will be releasing DLC with real ending. Do you think Bioware would act like that? Customers could feel fooled in that case. I'm pretty sure that everyone expected that this game is definite end of Shepards story. I also believe that after finishing game many have feeling that the story is finished. What do you expect Bioware would do now?

[Monochrome Wench]

Monochrome Wench wrote...

BlackDragonBane wrote...

Fledgey wrote...

mr.surv wrote...

http://imageshack.us.../834/4534n.jpg/

different endings

"OMGHub"
and then at the top you can see "cithub" I assume meaning citadel hub. So Omega hub? Oh god.

Are we sure those files aren't already what we see in the ending?

They are not. The actual ending files have different names to those ones. There are no EndGm* files anywhere. The actual endgame files are End03_*

Looking into this, it looks like the 'extra' movies in coalesced.bin are actually just dev stuff. It seems to match data from Mass Effect 2. Virtually every file in the screenshot is a Mass Effect 2 video.  While the endgm names do not match 100% to files in Mass Effect 2, they do match what happens on the collector base (Huddle Normandy, Huddle, Reaper Fall, Reaper Rise, Reaper Death, Escape, Flyby).  So there is nothing to see here sadly.

Also the three endgame states (lives to fight another day, etc) are probably also just hangovers from mass effect 2.

[Elendstourist]

ArkkAngel007 wrote...

squee365 wrote...

Ziguehart wrote...

I dont know if this mean anything, but last person you find in front of you in Mass Effect 3 is the Illusive Man, and for some reason, when Martin Sheen told this phrase in the end of the video ''Mass Effect 3 Voice Cast Reveal''.

The Phrase is the Following: ''Stay Tuned, I've not done yet'' (HahahcoughcoughHaha)
It's kind messed up with my head. Probably he's going back in a next dlc proving the real ending at all, I don't know.

Any suggestions? And sorry for the bad english =/

Mother of god...

--> I remember that...

So Martin Sheen was indoctrinating us the whole time 

I rewatched the video. He really says that. Are we slowly going crazy, over-interpretating? Jesus Christ -.-

[HallucinationEnd]

Hmm foud this :

http://s3.amazonaws....res=1331651551

Modifié par HallucinationEnd, 13 mars 2012 - 06:09 .

[noobcannon]

anorling wrote...

Sadly I think that people is just grasping for straws here. This is the endings we get. And BW is not going to change that. Any DLC coming for ME3 in the future will probably be aimed toward the multiplayer part. And if they are planning releasing any single player DLC you can bet that it wont be a "post ending" DLC. Probably just some alternate outfits, new weapons and stuff like that. Any new missions will just take place before the ending(s). Sad but true. Either way they are not getting my money again. Im done with this game. Not even going to bother with a second playthrough.

sad but true? care to offer any reason why?

[Debi-Tage]

Noob451 wrote...

Debi-Tage wrote...

Okay for those of you against the this theory - tell me: Right after Shepard walks into the beam and travels up to the Citadel why is it that the very first thing you see is Harbinger sitting at his usual computer terminal looking back as Shepard makes a grunting sound as she wakes up around all the dead bodies?

wait...what?

Nevermind - my friend just told me that's one of those workers from the Citadel.

[Dessalines]

This is why the ending does not make any sense.


This is long one, but listens to all that Harbringer has to say
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaRdcVYTjRw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvOFVSQCH1c&feature=related
And this is why Joker leaving does not make any sense, and this is why it has nothing to do with shepard dying at the end.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9c1mhgxx30

[lookingglassmind]

Okay. So it looks like I've missed tweets and Martin Sheen. DAMNIT.

[Noob451]

Debi-Tage wrote...

Noob451 wrote...

Debi-Tage wrote...

Okay for those of you against the this theory - tell me: Right after Shepard walks into the beam and travels up to the Citadel why is it that the very first thing you see is Harbinger sitting at his usual computer terminal looking back as Shepard makes a grunting sound as she wakes up around all the dead bodies?

wait...what?

Nevermind - my friend just told me that's one of those workers from the Citadel.

oh, the keeper.

[Smiley556]

lookingglassmind wrote...

Hi, guys!

I had to sleep, so I've missed the part where the thread jumped from 260 pages to 332.

Any new, significant developments?

http://social.biowar...ex/9872108&lf=8 

Ill let someone else update all the twitter stuff, dont really follow the twitter PR myself.

[mr.surv]

Just look on this picture:

http://postimage.org/image/cex0tnirp/

In what part of Citadel we are with Snderson and TIM?.
It's the tower yes? This one from council talk etc?

In last scene with Anderson, we see that arms of Citadel are opening. So we have to be in the peak of the tower (black arrow ). If not, we only see the wards ( from the base of the tower )
If thats right, theres a huuuuge bug here, cuz "magic elevator" take us higher! ( up )

Other option.

The dark, bloody corridor with bodies is the red arrow. But since the elevator take us higher, Crucible should be above our head- BUT in this position we couldn't see arms of the citadel.

[lookingglassmind]

HallucinationEnd wrote...

Hmm foud this :

http://s3.amazonaws....res=1331651551

!!!!!! Ack, I smell a troll, but.... DAMN.

[Ziguehart]

Niemack Saarinen wrote...

squee365 wrote...

Ziguehart wrote...

I dont know if this mean anything, but last person you find in front of you in Mass Effect 3 is the Illusive Man, and for some reason, when Martin Sheen told this phrase in the end of the video ''Mass Effect 3 Voice Cast Reveal''.

The Phrase is the Following: ''Stay Tuned, I've not done yet'' (HahahcoughcoughHaha)
It's kind messed up with my head. Probably he's going back in a next dlc proving the real ending at all, I don't know.

Any suggestions? And sorry for the bad english =/

Mother of god...

I thought the same last night, seemed odd for the context of ME3 as it stands. 

The link to the video if someone didn't see it

3:35 the moment when he talk about it

[Ice Cold J]

If the whole Martin Sheen thing is true, why would they wait to give it to us until after?

If it's to make money, then EA can $*@& my $!@&.

If it's anything BUT to make money, they are stupid as hell.

[ArkkAngel007]

Wuyunk wrote...

Elendstourist wrote...

Fledgey wrote...

https://twitter.com/...620565160706048
I... erm... well...

Is that good or bad for the indoctrination theory?

If they had said "Um... No. Nothing was ever changed" without the quotations it would indicate that nothing was ever changed from the script.

With the quotations around "changed" like it is, it implies that nothing was ever changed in the way that person was using the word "changed".

Just how I took it anyways.

Exactly.  The ending choices in the script are the ones we got in the game.  The fallout of our choices was not present beyond Shepard's vitality, Earth's status, and the state of the Mass Relays (which were only destroyed in the "Destroy" choice in the script, but destroyed in all the choices in the game).  No Normandy, no Stargazer, no remote planet...nada.  

[blooregard]

mr.surv wrote...

hmmm.

Maybe I miss something in whole series... but did Protheans ever build synthetics?
If not.....

from what I can tell the protheans had a great distrust of synthetics so aside from VIs I don't believe they made anything similar to the geth

[lookingglassmind]

Smiley556 wrote...

lookingglassmind wrote...

Hi, guys!

I had to sleep, so I've missed the part where the thread jumped from 260 pages to 332.

Any new, significant developments?

http://social.biowar...ex/9872108&lf=8 

Ill let someone else update all the twitter stuff, dont really follow the twitter PR myself.

Awww, that really sucks.  This was our theory, our thread. And Stanley Woo directs them to someone else's.

Although, it makes sense logistically, due to its length, but damn!