Was the ending a hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory
#9251
Posté 13 mars 2012 - 10:25
#9252
Posté 13 mars 2012 - 10:26
snackynak wrote...
Bojac6 wrote...
Spartas Husky wrote...
Read this... whether is a lie or not... i smuch better than this bullcrap we got
http://www.gamefaqs....fect-3/62230265
READ
Definitely a lie, but it would have been cool, yes.
You can tell it's a lie because there are no sources, the guy has really no way of knowing this is true, and he blames Kinect integration for time constraints, despite the fact that there was a working Kinect demo like a year ago.
It's just some angry fanboy who was angry Kinect and now angry about the endings making stuff up.
Not entirely. There are unused audio files which indicate at least some of what he said was true.
Joker hidden dialouge
exactly! It brings together!
#9253
Posté 13 mars 2012 - 10:26
#9254
Posté 13 mars 2012 - 10:26
Itssakai wrote...
Bobrzy wrote...
My post will probably be forgotten in the middle of this discussion, but if someone's looks at it:
Notice that when Shepard comes to this pipe at the end, the one he's about to shoot, he can barely stand. And then, when he shoots, the child disappears and Shepard suddenly stands straight, and easily moves forward when shooting, like he's feeling... better.
Kinda catched my attention.
I noticed that too, and I hadn't read these theorys yet. For Shep to go from limping cripple into full on rage shooting is a little odd. It could be a physical representation of him breaking free of the indoctrination, or it could simply be an adrenaline rush.
The thing I'm still confused about though is the Joker thing. WHY is he leaving the battle mid fight to run away? There's no way he could see the big energy blob coming and be like 'Screw this, I'm outta here' in the middle of a fight. He KNEW what Shepard was doing, he KNEW the Crucible was going to be activated, thus knowing there would be some form of energy coming from it. Why does he leave the rest of the galaxies races so suddenly in the middle of a battle? Doesn't seem like Joker to me.
Thanks for responding.
Yes, i do agree with the Joker running part. But the whole ending is difficult to understand. After all - what happened to the fleet? What about repercussions from curing the genophage? Quarians making peace with Geth? There is no closure, there is only void. This is what's stopping endings from being satisfying.
Oh yeah, and one more thing. I brought Garrus and Tali to the last mission, and i assumed they were dead after Harbinger hit us with his lazor. But then, when Normandy crashed, and Joker left the ship, TALI was standing right next to him. How the hell is that even possible? She was ON EARTH, probably dying.
#9255
Posté 13 mars 2012 - 10:26
Spartas Husky wrote...
Read this... whether is a lie or not... i smuch better than this bullcrap we got
http://www.gamefaqs....fect-3/62230265
READ
Read, people.
It may be a troll, but it definitely makes sense in the light of what we know from the script.
I guess Bioware could possibly be working on actually implementing this ending post-release to make up for what they had to do under the time pressure from EA. Or this is false and they are actually going with the indoctrination thing we're discussing. Either way, I think it can't be denied that everything Bioware employees actually said up until now was teasing and definitely hinting that they were working on something in the light of which our anger would quickly subside, on something that would satisfy us.
Modifié par JulienJaden, 13 mars 2012 - 10:27 .
#9256
Posté 13 mars 2012 - 10:27
#9257
Posté 13 mars 2012 - 10:28
Myrmedus wrote...
MordiMoro wrote...
Spartas Husky wrote...
Read this... whether is a lie or not... i smuch better than this bullcrap we got
http://www.gamefaqs....fect-3/62230265
READ
I also wrote me the link, but do not notice ...
explains it all: motivation reapers, the term "mass effect", fear = human = prothean dominate the galaxy, deleted files games, patchwork of the current final ...
is perfect.
true or great fanfic?
I've heard some of this before actually, for example how originally only the "Destroy" option was meant to destroy the Relays.
Hmmm...
If this is true I will DESTROY EA. BW, why did you join with them? You chose the merge option! What is wrong with you? Were you just naive and thought: "Yay, bigger budget to take our games to the next level"? You could've been giants on your own backs with enough time rather than succumbing to EA.
Reading through that again. It just makes too much sense! It has all the elements I had thought about whilst playing the game. You have a chat with Joker basically saying that Joker believes it was his fault that Shepard died in ME2 and that he would never want to do that again, so to have him try and come in to the rescue there makes sense. Then the part where the rest of your squad shows up to hold off the Reaper forces is like them holding the door in ME2. Then the motivation for the Reapers falls in line with a conversation with EDI that basically states how the Reapers only understand self-preservation as a motivation to live.
I mean....just too much logical sense.
Why was it taken out?!
#9258
Guest_BrotherWarth_*
Posté 13 mars 2012 - 10:28
Guest_BrotherWarth_*
#9259
Posté 13 mars 2012 - 10:28
Yeah, when the endings are put back in, I hope that conversation comes with it. It means a lot.manjikengo wrote...
just listened to the extended conversation with Female shepard and Anderson while he's dying. ****ing bawling like a baby. http://vulpesetuva.t...nough-one-thing
#9260
Posté 13 mars 2012 - 10:28
Empiro3 wrote...
Just a quick question for you folks: has anyone ever confirmed that the Mass Effect Twitter account is actually an official one, and not just one run by some fan (who is now trolling us)?
Actual devs tweet @masseffect
#9261
Posté 13 mars 2012 - 10:28
manjikengo wrote...
just listened to the extended conversation with Female shepard and Anderson while he's dying. ****ing bawling like a baby. http://vulpesetuva.t...nough-one-thing
I haven't even begun my FemShep run through the franchise and...and...
#9262
Posté 13 mars 2012 - 10:29
Sl4sh3r wrote...
Forum Signature Picture Update:
Come to the conclusion that I hate Photobucket. I keep getting emails that I've gone over my bandwidth. I'm assuming that the only reason the images are still showing up for me is because they're in the cache files.
I searched imgur.com for a bandwidth limit and couldn't find one so I'm hopeful that this won't happen again..
I made an album with all of the signature pictures.
Retake Mass Effect Signature Pictures Album
SORRY FOR GOING SEMI-OFF TOPIC!
I put the bar into my signature..doesn't works
#9263
Posté 13 mars 2012 - 10:29
manjikengo wrote...
just listened to the extended conversation with Female shepard and Anderson while he's dying. ****ing bawling like a baby. http://vulpesetuva.t...nough-one-thing
Wow, that is some impressive as all **** voice acting.
Too bad it was wasted on cut dialog that makes the ending even MORE depressing.
#9264
Posté 13 mars 2012 - 10:30
#9265
Posté 13 mars 2012 - 10:30
#9266
Posté 13 mars 2012 - 10:30
Can someone post what he says? I'm not able to download the files.MordiMoro wrote...
snackynak wrote...
Bojac6 wrote...
Spartas Husky wrote...
Read this... whether is a lie or not... i smuch better than this bullcrap we got
http://www.gamefaqs....fect-3/62230265
READ
Definitely a lie, but it would have been cool, yes.
You can tell it's a lie because there are no sources, the guy has really no way of knowing this is true, and he blames Kinect integration for time constraints, despite the fact that there was a working Kinect demo like a year ago.
It's just some angry fanboy who was angry Kinect and now angry about the endings making stuff up.
Not entirely. There are unused audio files which indicate at least some of what he said was true.
Joker hidden dialouge
exactly! It brings together!
#9267
Posté 13 mars 2012 - 10:30
Will It also be on a free disc you can go pick up somewhere? Will they mail you a free disc? No It will cost money. Costing money= Nothing or Needing a profit return.
If they do this,I will be just as upset as I was with the original ending. It makes little to no sense to do this,and wait a month (Or longer) to release the true ending. It just doesn't compute...
I like the idea,but will not hold my breath. I highly doubt Bioware will be honest or gives us a definitive answer to our questions. You give them the benefit of the doubt, as where I only see epic failures either way.
DLC true ending that some of us will get and others will not? So only those of us who obtain your extra DLC get the true ending? Leaving fans alienated because they are broke and find this ploy as meaningless as your original endings?
I'm having trouble understanding why you think or why Bioware would plan something like this.
It's not the theory,it's the ploy,or deliverance and silence to the fans.
I have read the Twitter post... And will end my statement here. No Twitter hasn't changed my mind,I am simply stating I am aware of the Twitter post and feel this way.
Modifié par Rip504, 13 mars 2012 - 10:33 .
#9268
Posté 13 mars 2012 - 10:31
"You guys really can't deal with how ME3 [ends], huh?"Deitylink wrote...
HectorB wrote...
You guys really can't deal with how ME3 ending, huh? Nice theory you have conjured up here but we all know how it really ends.
Gee. What a strong counter argument you make. I guess we're just fools. Believe what you want. You're indoctrinated. Game over.
I..and many other believers.. will see this fight to the end!
TO THE FREAKIN' END!
Condescending comments like that without offering any counter arguments or discussion is becoming very irritating.
#9269
Posté 13 mars 2012 - 10:31
Lambchopz wrote...
manjikengo wrote...
just listened to the extended conversation with Female shepard and Anderson while he's dying. ****ing bawling like a baby. http://vulpesetuva.t...nough-one-thing
Wow, that is some impressive as all **** voice acting.
Too bad it was wasted on cut dialog that makes the ending even MORE depressing.
TBH Femshep has been consistently the better voice actor through the series. Which is why Garrus is gonna give her an alergic reaction. Just as soon as I can get a new copy of ME1 (which registers as a normal DVD on my XBAWKS)
#9270
Posté 13 mars 2012 - 10:32
BrotherWarth wrote...
You guys do realize that the whole notion of the ending we got being somehow fake and a "real" ending coming at some future date is completely absurd, right?
When has EA ever done anything that wasnt absurd?
Just take a look at the install size of the discs, there is a clear difference between whats on the discs and what is installed, now that may just a pointless remark, however if you wanted...perhaps to let the entire world at the same time enjoy the ending without being spoiled, then it seems perfectly logical to encrypt the ending via whatever means.
Lets just wait until the rest of the releases are done, before killing off the idea.
#9271
Posté 13 mars 2012 - 10:32
ReclaimedHavoc wrote...
Can someone post what he says? I'm not able to download the files.MordiMoro wrote...
snackynak wrote...
Bojac6 wrote...
Spartas Husky wrote...
Read this... whether is a lie or not... i smuch better than this bullcrap we got
http://www.gamefaqs....fect-3/62230265
READ
Definitely a lie, but it would have been cool, yes.
You can tell it's a lie because there are no sources, the guy has really no way of knowing this is true, and he blames Kinect integration for time constraints, despite the fact that there was a working Kinect demo like a year ago.
It's just some angry fanboy who was angry Kinect and now angry about the endings making stuff up.
Not entirely. There are unused audio files which indicate at least some of what he said was true.
Joker hidden dialouge
exactly! It brings together!
http://www.mediafire...lsg7vhj85hv8vb9 -"I wasn't going to let you guys take all the credit"
http://www.mediafire...v7dxsepadh7auuh -"I'm late to the party, but the girls are comming home with me"
http://www.mediafire...64nv132d9bv3o8j -"That was for cortez!"
#9272
Posté 13 mars 2012 - 10:32
#9273
Posté 13 mars 2012 - 10:32
ReclaimedHavoc wrote...
Can someone post what he says? I'm not able to download the files.MordiMoro wrote...
snackynak wrote...
Bojac6 wrote...
Spartas Husky wrote...
Read this... whether is a lie or not... i smuch better than this bullcrap we got
http://www.gamefaqs....fect-3/62230265
READ
Definitely a lie, but it would have been cool, yes.
You can tell it's a lie because there are no sources, the guy has really no way of knowing this is true, and he blames Kinect integration for time constraints, despite the fact that there was a working Kinect demo like a year ago.
It's just some angry fanboy who was angry Kinect and now angry about the endings making stuff up.
Not entirely. There are unused audio files which indicate at least some of what he said was true.
Joker hidden dialouge
exactly! It brings together!
1st one: "A little late to the party but the girls are coming home with me."
2nd one: "That was for Cortez!"
#9274
Posté 13 mars 2012 - 10:32
Dessalines wrote...
They write good stories. It make no sense.RobT2012 wrote...
Ecmoose wrote...
People hating on the Indoctrination theory sound like this:
Before they finish ME3: "I bought ME1 I loved it. I bought ME2, I loved it. They both had such an amazing story and were so much fun to play. BW really knows how to make amazing characters and tell a wonderful story."
Finish ME3, see theory: "There's NO WAY BioWare could have fooled me with an amazing plot twist, they don't write good stories."
Absolutely love this, couldnt agree more
QFT. I'll never understand all the people writing it off as "Bioware's typical bad writing." Then again, a lot of them blame it on EA too. I'm not saying EA has never done anything wrong but half their critics are so totally blinded that hate that it's impossible to for them to even consider any reason for a problem other than "EA is the devil!"
You know what part of the incredibly bad writing this would be if these endings were real is most hilarious? And oddly I almost never see brought up? Shepard takes a direct hit from Harbinger's beam cannon. A regular capital ship can take down a dreadnought in a few shots of that thing, and Shepard survives Harbinger's on foot? There's absolutely no possible way. None. You might as well say he survived a thermonuclear blast. Even a destroyer's beam cannon is INSTANT death for Shepard in every other instance.
#9275
Posté 13 mars 2012 - 10:33
In the the codex its says that hearing humming/ringing is a symptom of indoctrination.




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