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[mentosman8]

2_BR4ZIL_2 wrote...

ToSatellite wrote...

I'm not sure if it was stated yet, and i'm not going to dig around for 300ish pages, but think about it, if the crucible destroyed the mass relays as well as the reapers, doesn't that mean that the sol system would've blown up since the destruction of mass relays result in a super-nova like explosion?
Meaning if this part wasn't inoctrination/a hallucination, Earth would've been destroyed, meaning shepard couldn't have woken up in London.

Yeah... which would mean that the Destroy ending is just that... Destroy the reapers and EVERYTHING else (maybe sparing only some far off colonies that wouldnt survive on its own), since all the major planets are in a Mass Relay sistem.

Ended up on the bottom of the last page when I responded with my thoughts on this, look at the destroy ending, when the relay in Sol blows up, it's in an explosion of red energy: the same that we saw sweep over Earth and damage nothing but the Reapers. Presumably when the relay explodes, it releases that same energy through the explosion, ensuring that the system is wiped clean of Reapers. Granted, I think this is all an attempt at indoctrination and isn't the real ending, but the relays exploding actually would explain how the crucible, as is, could wipe out all Reapers in the galaxy, and not just those at the main battle on Earth.

[Ona Demonie]

JulienJaden wrote...

Spartas Husky wrote...

Read this... whether is a lie or not... i smuch better than this bullcrap we got

http://www.gamefaqs....fect-3/62230265


READ

Read, people.

It may be a troll, but it definitely makes sense in the light of what we know from the script.

I guess Bioware could possibly be working on actually implementing this ending post-release to make up for what they had to do under the time pressure from EA. Or this is false and they are actually going with the indoctrination thing we're discussing. Either way, I think it can't be denied that everything Bioware employees actually said up until now was teasing and definitely hinting that they were working on something in the light of which our anger would quickly subside, on something that would satisfy us.

I WANT THAT. 

[luukee]

byne wrote...

Rip504 wrote...

The game tells you there will be DLC. So do the devs,it doesn't mean it is ending dlc,just dlc.

Maybe they think an epic fight on Omega will turn our heads...

Why would I (or anyone else) pay money for a DLC to retake Omega, when in the end, it will just be cut off from the galaxy like every other system?

Omega DLC would just exacerbate the situation more, and FURTHER OUR RAGE!

[2_BR4ZIL_2]

BrotherWarth wrote...

ReclaimedHavoc wrote...

BrotherWarth wrote...

Thermorium wrote...

BrotherWarth wrote...

Rest of the releases? What does that mean? The game is already out. No developer in their right mind would put a fake ending on their game just to release a real one at an undisclosed later date.

It´s supposed to come out in japan/asia on the 15th of march, so it's not released everywhere yet.

But why would they include a fake ending just to make the VAST majority of players wait to download a real ending? The entire idea is dumb.

Yeah, it's dumb, but all the evidence points that they're are going to release an ending. For what reason? I don't know.

What evidence? All I've seen is a theory that's easily explained away by bad writing(we know Bioware is capable of bad writing) and the Bioware tweets telling people not to sell their games or delete their saves. All that suggests to me is DLC, which we already knew we were getting.

Heh, from the negative responce that ME3 is getting even if this was supposed to be the ending, it probably wont be anymore.

Ea games wants money and they wouldnt shoot themselfs in foot by killing the ME fanchise.

[Elenterx]

 Took some pics of CE art, maybe there is something there idunno ill continue to upload em.

http://i44.tinypic.com/14brmnr.jpg 

[Rip504]

byne wrote...

Rip504 wrote...

The game tells you there will be DLC. So do the devs,it doesn't mean it is ending dlc,just dlc.

Maybe they think an epic fight on Omega will turn our heads...

Why would I (or anyone else) pay money for a DLC to retake Omega, when in the end, it will just be cut off from the galaxy like every other system?

Ask Bioware
Also Shepard is the only in-game character whom wears N7 armor,So the CE show Shpeard helping humanity...
Muah!

Modifié par Rip504, 13 mars 2012 - 10:59 .

[jspiess]

iwillkillfortali wrote...

To the people that are B***hing about the other endings.
Mass Effect is about choices and each choice can lead to you or any other person dieing.

By the beard of Zeus, what are you talking about?

[2_BR4ZIL_2]

mentosman8 wrote...

2_BR4ZIL_2 wrote...

ToSatellite wrote...

I'm not sure if it was stated yet, and i'm not going to dig around for 300ish pages, but think about it, if the crucible destroyed the mass relays as well as the reapers, doesn't that mean that the sol system would've blown up since the destruction of mass relays result in a super-nova like explosion?
Meaning if this part wasn't inoctrination/a hallucination, Earth would've been destroyed, meaning shepard couldn't have woken up in London.

Yeah... which would mean that the Destroy ending is just that... Destroy the reapers and EVERYTHING else (maybe sparing only some far off colonies that wouldnt survive on its own), since all the major planets are in a Mass Relay sistem.

Ended up on the bottom of the last page when I responded with my thoughts on this, look at the destroy ending, when the relay in Sol blows up, it's in an explosion of red energy: the same that we saw sweep over Earth and damage nothing but the Reapers. Presumably when the relay explodes, it releases that same energy through the explosion, ensuring that the system is wiped clean of Reapers. Granted, I think this is all an attempt at indoctrination and isn't the real ending, but the relays exploding actually would explain how the crucible, as is, could wipe out all Reapers in the galaxy, and not just those at the main battle on Earth.

Well unless that energy just kills AI (since the geth would be destroyed) then everyone in space is probably doomed to starvation too, since it would fry the ship's sistems.

[Teh Tux]

iwillkillfortali wrote...

To the people that are B***hing about the other endings.
Mass Effect is about choices and each choice can lead to you or any other person dieing.

No one cares that shepard dies in the endings. The problems are that there are so many inconsistencies throughout the final part of the game, along with many hints before hand that something "isn't right'.
If the ending was exactly the same just with more explanation, at least 60% of the people here would probably be ok with it.

[Reptilian Rob]

2_BR4ZIL_2 wrote...

BrotherWarth wrote...

ReclaimedHavoc wrote...

BrotherWarth wrote...

Thermorium wrote...

BrotherWarth wrote...

Rest of the releases? What does that mean? The game is already out. No developer in their right mind would put a fake ending on their game just to release a real one at an undisclosed later date.

It´s supposed to come out in japan/asia on the 15th of march, so it's not released everywhere yet.

But why would they include a fake ending just to make the VAST majority of players wait to download a real ending? The entire idea is dumb.

Yeah, it's dumb, but all the evidence points that they're are going to release an ending. For what reason? I don't know.

What evidence? All I've seen is a theory that's easily explained away by bad writing(we know Bioware is capable of bad writing) and the Bioware tweets telling people not to sell their games or delete their saves. All that suggests to me is DLC, which we already knew we were getting.

Heh, from the negative responce that ME3 is getting even if this was supposed to be the ending, it probably wont be anymore.

Ea games wants money and they wouldnt shoot themselfs in foot by killing the ME fanchise.

Whatever happends as it stands now I refuse to end the game. All my playthroughs will end after Horizon, clear as that. The endings destroy everything, simply everything. 

[Evil_medved]

jspiess wrote...

iwillkillfortali wrote...

To the people that are B***hing about the other endings.
Mass Effect is about choices and each choice can lead to you or any other person dieing.

By the beard of Zeus, what are you talking about?

He talking about those peeps who think that making DESTROY only "right" choice is unfair.

[2_BR4ZIL_2]

Descedent wrote...

GBGriffin wrote...

BadlyBrowned wrote...

Debi-Tage wrote...

I just noticed on the back of th N7 CE insert there in image covering the whole thing showing someone with Shep armor on pulling an unclothed hand out of rubble...

/checks CE edition

Interesting.....nice find. Dunno if it means anything though lol

Hahaha, I checked mine too

HMM obvious it's final battle 

Looks like Mr. James Vega finnaly got his N7 armor and is pulling Shep out of that mess

[Martukis]

BrotherWarth wrote...

savionen wrote...

BrotherWarth wrote...

Thermorium wrote...

BrotherWarth wrote...

Rest of the releases? What does that mean? The game is already out. No developer in their right mind would put a fake ending on their game just to release a real one at an undisclosed later date.

It´s supposed to come out in japan/asia on the 15th of march, so it's not released everywhere yet.

But why would they include a fake ending just to make the VAST majority of players wait to download a real ending? The entire idea is dumb.

The current ending is the real ending until the real ending comes out.

They could be wrapping it up in a DLC. They could be adding a half-game expansion. The story might just be wrapped up in Mass Effect 4, etc.

There's no reason to think that, and we've been told since the beginning that ME is a trilogy.
I understand wanting a different ending. The one we got is truly lousy and lazy. But why suspend your better judgment?

 We were told Shep's portion of the Mass Effect universe is a trilogy, but that we can also expect more games in the setting.
http://www.geek.com/...-games-2012023/

[savionen]

BrotherWarth wrote...

savionen wrote...

BrotherWarth wrote...

Thermorium wrote...

BrotherWarth wrote...

Rest of the releases? What does that mean? The game is already out. No developer in their right mind would put a fake ending on their game just to release a real one at an undisclosed later date.

It´s supposed to come out in japan/asia on the 15th of march, so it's not released everywhere yet.

But why would they include a fake ending just to make the VAST majority of players wait to download a real ending? The entire idea is dumb.

The current ending is the real ending until the real ending comes out.

They could be wrapping it up in a DLC. They could be adding a half-game expansion. The story might just be wrapped up in Mass Effect 4, etc.

There's no reason to think that, and we've been told since the beginning that ME is a trilogy.
I understand wanting a different ending. The one we got is truly lousy and lazy. But why suspend your better judgment?

Considering how great the entire trilogy was, and ME3 was, the lousy ending they created seems less likely to be the end than them doing expansions/DLC/etc. The indoctrination theory overall makes a lot of sense too unless it's just a lot of oversight on random aspects of the game. For example all of the elements dealing with the nobody seeing the kid but Shepard, and the kid's weird dialogue, even at the beginning.

It also seems logical for them to make more Mass Effect games. They said the trilogy marks the end for Shepard, not necessarily Mass Effect in general. I'm also sure most people wouldn't be all that interested in Mass Effect 4 if they killed off 90% of the characters in Mass Effect 3.

[Reptilian Rob]

2_BR4ZIL_2 wrote...

Descedent wrote...

GBGriffin wrote...

BadlyBrowned wrote...

Debi-Tage wrote...

I just noticed on the back of th N7 CE insert there in image covering the whole thing showing someone with Shep armor on pulling an unclothed hand out of rubble...

/checks CE edition

Interesting.....nice find. Dunno if it means anything though lol

Hahaha, I checked mine too

HMM obvious it's final battle 

Looks like Mr. James Vega finnaly got his N7 armor and is pulling Shep out of that mess

That would be swell, aint gonna happen though. 

[Lili_oups]

MDT1 wrote...

Shepard also runs into the synthesis beam when you get close enough.

The only somewhat solid evidence we have that Shepard never left Earth is the small cutscene when he/she takes breath.
But to be hones, Shep already survived falling onto a planet, and with all the space magic the citadel has it wouldn't surprise me if thats the explanation ...

He didnt survive...he was DEAD
Project lazarus res him with some synthetics kinda like leng 

And i bet the "breath" scene is right after shepard took harbinger beams...not after the citadel explosion

[FrostByte-GER]

Debi-Tage wrote...

Evil_medved wrote...

http://www.gamefaqs....fect-3/62230265

Now those endings make sense a lot more. Though 90% of them still involves death of Shepard. I wonder what we'll gonna get in the end?

Read second post about the 4 endings:

"The destroy ending does destroy the relays, but its implied that with
all the races on earth, they, together, will restore what they lost and
will attempt to work together. if shepard lives, your LI leading your
squad, will be looking for you. You are beamed back down to earth (its
assumed shepard was somehow blasted into the beam? this is the only
questionable part). It ends with shepard's hand coming out of the rubble
and breathing. Still a cliffhanger of sorts, but you can assume they
will find him/her obviously."

I just noticed on the back of th N7 CE insert there in image covering the whole thing showing someone with Shep armor on pulling an unclothed hand out of rubble...

I checked it again...I noticed it at the first unboxing...but I thought that Shepard would rescue some civilians...but this, this makes me odd Nice find

[ReclaimedHavoc]

2_BR4ZIL_2 wrote...

Descedent wrote...

GBGriffin wrote...

BadlyBrowned wrote...

Debi-Tage wrote...

I just noticed on the back of th N7 CE insert there in image covering the whole thing showing someone with Shep armor on pulling an unclothed hand out of rubble...

/checks CE edition

Interesting.....nice find. Dunno if it means anything though lol

Hahaha, I checked mine too

HMM obvious it's final battle 

Looks like Mr. James Vega finnaly got his N7 armor and is pulling Shep out of that mess

Yes, Mr Vega probably had it delievered express while in battle over earth.

[Prince Keldar]

ok everybody I don't think this is the thread to b**ch about how bad the endings are. go to another thread. This one is about the ending being an indoctrination attempt by Harbinger and the evidence that supports it, or the evidence that does not.

[2_BR4ZIL_2]

Martukis wrote...

BrotherWarth wrote...

savionen wrote...

BrotherWarth wrote...

Thermorium wrote...

BrotherWarth wrote...

Rest of the releases? What does that mean? The game is already out. No developer in their right mind would put a fake ending on their game just to release a real one at an undisclosed later date.

It´s supposed to come out in japan/asia on the 15th of march, so it's not released everywhere yet.

But why would they include a fake ending just to make the VAST majority of players wait to download a real ending? The entire idea is dumb.

The current ending is the real ending until the real ending comes out.

They could be wrapping it up in a DLC. They could be adding a half-game expansion. The story might just be wrapped up in Mass Effect 4, etc.

There's no reason to think that, and we've been told since the beginning that ME is a trilogy.
I understand wanting a different ending. The one we got is truly lousy and lazy. But why suspend your better judgment?

 We were told Shep's portion of the Mass Effect universe is a trilogy, but that we can also expect more games in the setting.
http://www.geek.com/...-games-2012023/

Without the Mass Relays and all the galactic alien community there cant be any ME games set after ME3. Unless they make a game about the First Contact War or something (which would be pointless since the end of everyone is "DEAD").

[Irishkev]

The reason I think the ending is not finished besdies the fact it makes no sense at this point Are as follows:

1. you can't save the game at all in the earth mission why? only autosave
2. Once you finish the earth mission the Mission gets reset and your auto save is overwritten with you back on your ship before you attack cerburus.
3.I have played every bioware game since it came out and I am sure no matter what if you died or lived in the game since DLC has been out it didn't reset the main mission to before you died.

these 3 things granted all to do with saves but all at the end tell me they want to add something to the ending what I don't know. Maybe they ran out of time maybe it's a hoax or maybe its just a dam bug

[Reptilian Rob]

Prince Keldar wrote...

ok everybody I don't think this is the thread to b**ch about how bad the endings are. go to another thread. This one is about the ending being an indoctrination attempt by Harbinger and the evidence that supports it, or the evidence that does not.

****ty ending is evidence enough that this is not going to end as expected, I know what BW was going for and they failed. 

[theratking]

just going to say this again in case it was lost

Dont know if anyones noticed this, but after waking up from harbingers beam, if you use the kinect to use an ability as a biotic singularity has a white center instead of black. Not sure what that means if anything just thought it was curious. It struck me as very odd.

[savionen]

Lili_oups wrote...

MDT1 wrote...

Shepard also runs into the synthesis beam when you get close enough.

The only somewhat solid evidence we have that Shepard never left Earth is the small cutscene when he/she takes breath.
But to be hones, Shep already survived falling onto a planet, and with all the space magic the citadel has it wouldn't surprise me if thats the explanation ...

He didnt survive...he was DEAD
Project lazarus res him with some synthetics kinda like leng 

And i bet the "breath" scene is right after shepard took harbinger beams...not after the citadel explosion

lol, why would they do that? Why would they say "Oh Shepard is dead for reals" and then show a clip of him surviving that was from earlier before he died? That's terrible storytelling.

The breath scene is also only for Destroy.