balance5050 wrote...
Niemack Saarinen wrote...
Rip504 wrote...
The Pistol does not have infinite Ammo. In the way some of you claim. All guns have infinite Ammo,it's the heat sinks that need to be changed,hence this just happens to be an old model,or a special heat sink. It could simply be the Predator with 49+Shots
"A special Heat sink" thats never been seen before in the trilogy let alone those models carry high damage low magazine. your argument is invalid.
Yeah, why would one of the old models just be lying there when you have seen one in years.
LOL about the gun… what bugs me is that a lot of you are up in arms about the gun having infinite ammo in the end(you can still reload though)… But think about that for a second.
Especially if you have low war resources and only have one option in the end… which is shooting the exploding
pipe/node/destruction. Anyways, one thing being said is
“I didn’t have a pistol equipped”.
Well there are plenty of bodies to pick from on the ground, and if your weapons got blasted off you… you’re going to need one cause guns solve problems. Either way, now you have this “MAGIC GUN”(lol) and it’s like that for a lot of
reasons.
What if you were an absolute terrible shot. Those 3 husks would be a serious problem. Not to mention that Turian Reaper at the end. He takes at least 2 shots, if you aim well. So that’s 5 bullets needed, right there.
Next it is said that the gun isn’t in your hands after being beamed up… So what? Shep fell down and picked it up again. He knows it, too, since as soon as he is able he is looking for it. Oh, but this one also has infinite ammo. Again… So what?
Let’s say it’s the same gun and has already had 5 rounds through it from when you picked it up.
I think it would make the next scene really hard to pull off if you spent the rest of your ammo shooting the Keepers on the walk up, heh i did. Imagine when TIM made a move to shoot at you and you were like “oh no TIM not today”…
click. click.
Bam, he shoots you dead. Would have been nice to have that “Magic gun” there.
Anyways, let’s say you talk TIM into suicide and save 1 bullet…
You still need 1 to shoot Anderson. So that is 6 shots so far. Let’s say Shepard picks up a Carnifex that only has 9 shots in the mag. Which would make the final decision scene really difficult.
Figure you go through the talks and pick “destroy”. You sashay on up to the area and are required to shoot the pipe to
destroy it. You have 3 shots left.
OH but it takes 4 shots to go boom.
You lose before you even get the ending where you lose. Not good. So in my opinion the gun with infinite ammo is a plot device to move the story along. Since if you didn’t have it, you could run out of ammo only to be stranded in the end with no way to end the game, or inevitably get killed by TIM when you can’t Renegade option shoot him. See what I’m saying.
Not trying to disprove anything, just some things get way too much focus and blown out of proportion. And since I am finally getting around to posting let's add some more things...
In fact I whole heartedly subscribe to the possibility of the end being a
near death experience, which determines Shepards resolve and is very important for the internal war that is raging inside Shepard’s mind.
Another thing that happened to me that I’m surprised didn’t get more press by some here, was when you spoke with Joker immediately after the Legion Virtual Reality he make a really interesting comment. Says something along the lines of
“well if you were convinced that was real how do you know
everything you are experiencing outside of it is real. How do you know that all
of this is not just some simulation and you are still hooked up in the Geth
ship?” This was a really awesome point for him to bring up and made me think about it from then on… Hell there was also plenty of Reaper viruses hanging around in there, too. You never know.
I think that the first time you see the kid, playing outside(with a Normandy shuttle no less….mmmmmm foreshadowing), that is the only real time he is alive and there. The idea had to come from somewhere for the Reapers to use in their suggestions. I don’t believe it’s an indoctrination thing, it seems to be more important to be a free will thing. Like the Reapers need Shepard to put everything he believes behind his decision and are working the whole time to suggest and plant their own agenda in him. They even said it, when the collective consciousness of the Reapers mentioned they couldn’t use TIM since he was basically under their control. Hell if that was the case they could have just lifted TIM right on up there and told him to jump into the pretty green light.
I think it’s funny that some of you guys are calling the kid "GOD KID". Since the Reapers, ie god kid, basically represent what could arguably be PURE EVIL. Who is also acting in a way that they are a collective consciousness trying to persuade you, good guy, or use suggestion to bend you to their will.
They need something from you. The KID outright says that, says ‘We need each other’. He needs you to make the choice yourself, which would end you and preserve them. All the while, if you don’t give into their fancy trickery and lies and stick to your resolve, ignoring all that makes you second guess your main goal…you live and they die. The whole game they are trying to get you on their side.
Not really by pure indoctrination, since they say that they can’t use TIM for that very reason, but by you using free will and choice to extend their lifespan by giving up yours. Ultimately getting their goals accomplished. It’s
kind of an interesting thought especially if you subscribe to it possibly being a NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCE. Since you can’t hallucinate while knocked the fack out. It could be a dream but… NDE is more plausible, imo.
But seriously, Joker even said it. How do we know anything we are experiencing is real, after being in the virtual reality. He is planting the idea right there. Your subconscious also warns you in the dreams, especially the last one. Where it is basically saying, don't go with the kid or you will burn.
I am replaying the game cause of this thread and lots of the additions made to it by you guys to look out for things.
ALSO the 1M1 thing is interesting, as if you look on all of the doors on the Normandy there is 8M8. just sayin
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