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[thePredator50]

Would someone be so kind to explain the "saving Anderson" thing? In my ending he just died next to Shepard... what is everyone talking about?

[GBGriffin]

[quote]Fledgey wrote...

So when he says "You can't help me." LoL because he's dead at that point [/quote]I just videoed this whole sequence in high def, guys. I'm uploading it now.
[/quote]

Do you have a Kinect? I hear that makes it better somehow.

[FryinHard]

NitrAce wrote...

FryinHard wrote...

Darksaber2 wrote...

The only thing I have to add to this raging discussion (sorry if this was covered in the last 390some pages) is that during the events of the finale, once the ending has begun, you have unlimited ammunition. This is somewhat of a departure from the norm. You can fire the pistol you have until you are blue in the face and you'll never be forced to reload, never run out of ammo. Some might say that it's because you need the gun, but it's not like you couldn't spread some ammunition around, there's plenty of human soldier bodies.

Really even aside from the eye, it's the biggest thing from my POV that shows that the entire thing is a fabrication.

LOL about the gun… what bugs me is that a lot of you are up in arms about the gun having infinite ammo in the end(you can still reload though)… But think about that for a second. Especially if you have low war resources and only have one option in the end… which is shooting the exploding pipe/node/destruction.
Anyways, one thing being said is “I didn’t have a pistol equipped”. Well there are plenty of bodies to pick from on, and if your weapons got blasted off you… you’re going to need one cause guns solve problems. Either way, now you have this “MAGIC GUN”(lol) and it’s like that for a lot of reasons. What if you were an absolute terrible shot. Those 3 husks would be a serious problem. Not to mention that Turian Reaper at the end. He takes at least 2 shots, if you aim well. So that’s 5 bullets needed, right there.
Next it is said that the gun isn’t in your hands after being beamed up… So what? Shep fell down and picked it up again. He knows it, too, since as soon as he is able he is looking for it. Oh, but this one also has infinite ammo. Again… So what? Let’s say it’s the same gun and has already had 5 rounds through it from when you picked it up. I think it would make the next scene really hard to pull off if you spent the rest of your ammo shooting the Keepers on the walk up. Imagine when TIM made a move to shoot at you and you were like “oh no TIM not today”… click. click. Bam, he shoots you dead.
Would have been nice to have that “Magic gun” there.
Anyways, let’s say you talk TIM into suicide and save 1 bullet… You still need 1 to shoot Anderson. So that is 6 shots so far. Let’s say Shepard picks up a Carnifex that only has 9 shots in the mag. Which would make the final decision scene really difficult. Figure you go through the talks and pick “destroy”. You sashay on up to the area and are required to shoot the pipe to destroy it. You have 3 shots left. OH but it takes 4 shots to go boom.
You lose before you even get the ending where you lose. Not good. So in my opinion the gun with infinite ammo is a plot device to move the story along. Since if you didn’t have it, you could run out of ammo only to be stranded in the end with no way to end the game, or inevitably get killed by TIM when you can’t Renegade option shoot him. See what I’m saying. 

Holy **** that was the stupidest thing I've read in a while. 

So an ammo box at the top of the Citadel wouldn't have been out of place? Since if there was ammo in  the gun you would have to be able to run out of ammo.

[GBGriffin]

thePredator50 wrote...

Would someone be so kind to explain the "saving Anderson" thing? In my ending he just died next to Shepard... what is everyone talking about?

You save him from getting shot by TIM for you two to share a moment before he dies.

That's it. He always dies; it's just a matter of how.

[balance5050]

thePredator50 wrote...

Would someone be so kind to explain the "saving Anderson" thing? In my ending he just died next to Shepard... what is everyone talking about?

He always dies there, they mean saving him from getting shot in the head by TIM.

[Fledgey]

GBGriffin wrote...

Fledgey wrote...
I just videoed this whole sequence in high def, guys. I'm uploading it now.

Do you have a Kinect? I hear that makes it better somehow.

Unfortunately not, sir. Unfortunately not.

[Pyewacket]

Golferguy758 wrote...

Pyewacket wrote...

Golferguy758 wrote...

De1ta G wrote...

PDesign wrote...

Sajuro wrote...

Or the kid was a real person but he was never in the vents and died in the initial attack.

He was

I'm guessing he used green space magic to get through that door...

Door is locked until kid gets there, immediately unlocks for him, he runs in, and door immediately locks behind him less than a second later.

Also, how did that kid get on the ledge?

Ah HA!  Now that's interesting.  I'm so confused, y'all.

A real kid couldn't be up there unless he is Peter Parker. There are no ladders on the side of the building, yet the kid "climbs" onto the balcony

Excellent point!  ...still so confused.

[Fledgey]

FryinHard wrote...

NitrAce wrote...

FryinHard wrote...

Darksaber2 wrote...

The only thing I have to add to this raging discussion (sorry if this was covered in the last 390some pages) is that during the events of the finale, once the ending has begun, you have unlimited ammunition. This is somewhat of a departure from the norm. You can fire the pistol you have until you are blue in the face and you'll never be forced to reload, never run out of ammo. Some might say that it's because you need the gun, but it's not like you couldn't spread some ammunition around, there's plenty of human soldier bodies.

Really even aside from the eye, it's the biggest thing from my POV that shows that the entire thing is a fabrication.

LOL about the gun… what bugs me is that a lot of you are up in arms about the gun having infinite ammo in the end(you can still reload though)… But think about that for a second. Especially if you have low war resources and only have one option in the end… which is shooting the exploding pipe/node/destruction.
Anyways, one thing being said is “I didn’t have a pistol equipped”. Well there are plenty of bodies to pick from on, and if your weapons got blasted off you… you’re going to need one cause guns solve problems. Either way, now you have this “MAGIC GUN”(lol) and it’s like that for a lot of reasons. What if you were an absolute terrible shot. Those 3 husks would be a serious problem. Not to mention that Turian Reaper at the end. He takes at least 2 shots, if you aim well. So that’s 5 bullets needed, right there.
Next it is said that the gun isn’t in your hands after being beamed up… So what? Shep fell down and picked it up again. He knows it, too, since as soon as he is able he is looking for it. Oh, but this one also has infinite ammo. Again… So what? Let’s say it’s the same gun and has already had 5 rounds through it from when you picked it up. I think it would make the next scene really hard to pull off if you spent the rest of your ammo shooting the Keepers on the walk up. Imagine when TIM made a move to shoot at you and you were like “oh no TIM not today”… click. click. Bam, he shoots you dead.
Would have been nice to have that “Magic gun” there.
Anyways, let’s say you talk TIM into suicide and save 1 bullet… You still need 1 to shoot Anderson. So that is 6 shots so far. Let’s say Shepard picks up a Carnifex that only has 9 shots in the mag. Which would make the final decision scene really difficult. Figure you go through the talks and pick “destroy”. You sashay on up to the area and are required to shoot the pipe to destroy it. You have 3 shots left. OH but it takes 4 shots to go boom.
You lose before you even get the ending where you lose. Not good. So in my opinion the gun with infinite ammo is a plot device to move the story along. Since if you didn’t have it, you could run out of ammo only to be stranded in the end with no way to end the game, or inevitably get killed by TIM when you can’t Renegade option shoot him. See what I’m saying. 

Holy **** that was the stupidest thing I've read in a while. 

So an ammo box at the top of the Citadel wouldn't have been out of place? Since if there was ammo in  the gun you would have to be able to run out of ammo.

It's not the fact that it's endless, it's the fact that you never have to reload. They already gave you an endless pistol at the very beginning.

[Golferguy758]

So I have a message from a friend of mine who was looking at the save editor that was released. He has beaten the game but all his save files are listed as not finished.

The three end game states are: out in a blaze of glory, not finished, and live to fight another day

[Little Lummo]

Pyewacket wrote...

Golferguy758 wrote...

Pyewacket wrote...

Golferguy758 wrote...

De1ta G wrote...

PDesign wrote...

Sajuro wrote...

Or the kid was a real person but he was never in the vents and died in the initial attack.

He was

I'm guessing he used green space magic to get through that door...

Door is locked until kid gets there, immediately unlocks for him, he runs in, and door immediately locks behind him less than a second later.

Also, how did that kid get on the ledge?

Ah HA!  Now that's interesting.  I'm so confused, y'all.

A real kid couldn't be up there unless he is Peter Parker. There are no ladders on the side of the building, yet the kid "climbs" onto the balcony

Excellent point!  ...still so confused.

Just done this bit now, i saw him and he is standing right on the edge looking over the side, as you get closer he turns around and runs in! 

[Rifneno]

Traderjoeeeee wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

I know the subject of the eyes has been brought up a lot.  But I've talked to quite a few people who don't see it, or don't think they're really what we think they are.  So I got some screenshots and when necessary magnified them so you can see them better.


That's the Illusive Man's eye in ME2. Note the pattern: an inner circle, an outer circle, and two orb shapes on the bottom left and right.


This is Saren's eye in ME1 right before he ragequits existence. It's different, but similar in a way. A large glowing center, an inner ring, a much smaller outer ring, and some wavy designs coming out of them.


This is Shepard's eye right after his face turned black in the control ending. This is the exact same pattern as the Illusive Man's. The only difference is the color. Which is similar to Saren's. I'll also note that the rest of the scene he seemed to be in immense pain as he's gripping the handles. After he turns like this, he simply looks deadpan and emotionless.


This is Shepard's eye during the synthesis ending. He's further from the camera and a lot of the time it's distorted by the green pulses, but this is still a clear enough shot to tell, without a doubt, that he has the same eyes here as in control.

Hopefully this helps convince someone that doesn't believe the eye evidence, which I personally consider to be the strongest evidence of the indoctrination theory.

Bravo rif!

Thanks.  Just wanted to say thanks.  ...  Totally not a shameless bump for the people who who logged in within the past hourish and can't re-read 300 pages.

...  Yes, EDI.  It was a joke.

[DOYOURLABS]

 Saren was the "synthesis of organic and synthetic" and he was completely controlled by the reapers. 
And if anyone has evidence against Indoctrination Theory, visit the thread I created here.

[LoveAsThouWilt]

We know Bioware can play mind games with Shepard in the ME universe because of the events of Overlord and the one quest with Legion in ME3 where your in another world and things are constructed that are familiar to him in the latter. (given a gun for hacking through the system).

[Sl4sh3r]

Golferguy758 wrote...

So I have a message from a friend of mine who was looking at the save editor that was released. He has beaten the game but all his save files are listed as not finished.

The three end game states are: out in a blaze of glory, not finished, and live to fight another day

I beat the game and mine is listed as "Lived To Fight Again"

Is he checking the NewGamePlusSave.pcsav?

[Golferguy758]

Modifié par Golferguy758, 14 mars 2012 - 01:33 .

[LenabotSE]

Golferguy758 wrote...

So I have a message from a friend of mine who was looking at the save editor that was released. He has beaten the game but all his save files are listed as not finished.

The three end game states are: out in a blaze of glory, not finished, and live to fight another day

I think I recall seeing a "live to fight another day" save editor screen cap earlier in the thread - somewhere back there in the abyss.  I think that referred to the Destroy ending.  Can you ask your friend which endings he took to get each save type? 

[Golferguy758]

Sl4sh3r wrote...

Golferguy758 wrote...

So I have a message from a friend of mine who was looking at the save editor that was released. He has beaten the game but all his save files are listed as not finished.

The three end game states are: out in a blaze of glory, not finished, and live to fight another day

I beat the game and mine is listed as "Lived To Fight Again"

Is he checking the NewGamePlusSave.pcsav?

I'll ask him. He's currently toying with his saves, haha

[edit] he looked at his newgame+ at my...hurried insistance. he has live to fight another day. he chose Destruction

Modifié par Golferguy758, 14 mars 2012 - 01:35 .

[FLYING GRENADE11]

Golferguy758 wrote...

So I have a message from a friend of mine who was looking at the save editor that was released. He has beaten the game but all his save files are listed as not finished.

The three end game states are: out in a blaze of glory, not finished, and live to fight another day

http://t1ak.roblox.com/aa90d924293ad1409f13a02610d45451
you can have my win, ALLLLLL OF IT!!!!

[Pojingu]

Don't know if this has been posted, found it on ME3 twitter:
http://me3finalhours.com

[Golferguy758]

FLYING GRENADE11 wrote...

Golferguy758 wrote...

So I have a message from a friend of mine who was looking at the save editor that was released. He has beaten the game but all his save files are listed as not finished.

The three end game states are: out in a blaze of glory, not finished, and live to fight another day

http://t1ak.roblox.com/aa90d924293ad1409f13a02610d45451
you can have my win, ALLLLLL OF IT!!!!

You may have to take that back, he didn't give me all the information. sorry haha

Slasher, what ending did you choose?

[ceruleancrescent]

CommanderSmacker wrote...

Ecmoose wrote...

PDesign wrote...

Sajuro wrote...

Or the kid was a real person but he was never in the vents and died in the initial attack.

He was

Except there's no way he could have survived the attack that blows the building up in the next few seconds. The vent he's in
1) Has an "Electrified do not touch" sign next to it
2) Is in direct line of sight with the Reaper laser beam that destroys the building.

Yet the kid is unscathed.

Maybe he ran into the building, but anytime after that he's just a hallucination.

So when he says "You can't help me." LoL because he's dead at that point

Also why would they go to all the trouble to show the kid there on the balcony and entering the building when one could just assume he got into the building and was hiding in the vent beforehand.
But when you then take into consideration that the reaper blast blows apart anything in there and that the vent has a "do not enter, vent electrified"  sign right next to it, why would they go through the trouble to show him entering the building before the explosion and why would they bother putting the sign near the vent if the scene wasn't supposed to be questioned?
I don't know if I'm saying this right, but it was what I was thinking.

Modifié par ceruleancrescent, 14 mars 2012 - 01:39 .

[Sl4sh3r]

Golferguy758 wrote...

FLYING GRENADE11 wrote...

Golferguy758 wrote...

So I have a message from a friend of mine who was looking at the save editor that was released. He has beaten the game but all his save files are listed as not finished.

The three end game states are: out in a blaze of glory, not finished, and live to fight another day

http://t1ak.roblox.com/aa90d924293ad1409f13a02610d45451
you can have my win, ALLLLLL OF IT!!!!

You may have to take that back, he didn't give me all the information. sorry haha

Slasher, what ending did you choose?

Chose to Destroy those god damned Reapers once and for all (or is it?)

[noobcannon]

got 50 new pages to read since this afternoon. sheesh.

[FLYING GRENADE11]

Golferguy758 wrote...

FLYING GRENADE11 wrote...

Golferguy758 wrote...

So I have a message from a friend of mine who was looking at the save editor that was released. He has beaten the game but all his save files are listed as not finished.

The three end game states are: out in a blaze of glory, not finished, and live to fight another day

http://t1ak.roblox.com/aa90d924293ad1409f13a02610d45451
you can have my win, ALLLLLL OF IT!!!!

You may have to take that back, he didn't give me all the information. sorry haha

Slasher, what ending did you choose?

*takes back win'*

[Ecmoose]

Pojingu wrote...

Don't know if this has been posted, found it on ME3 twitter:
http://me3finalhours.com

That's just a documentary about game production.