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[Mallissin]

AnnaExMachina wrote...

Mallissin wrote...

blooregard wrote...
the reapers have been killing anything squishy for the past billion or so years they don't want organtics to understand them nor do they try and understand organtics they simply show up kill them then leave they aren't like the geth at all who have for the most part been observing organtic life peacfully

I think one the DLCs they're making is going to explain the Reaper origins, which is why they're trying to hold us hanging.

Remember, we haven't seen the Battarian side of the war yet, or the Leviathian of Dis, which in ME3 was admitted to being a Reaper.

About the Leviathan, some thought it was actually Sovereign.

I was one of those people, but I think a dev said it wasn't and they seem to know everything.

[MissMaster_2]

RC Clone wrote...

krystalevenstar wrote...

Dorfgonewild81 wrote...

 Here are the models of the bodies... plus an interesting 4th body that kind of goes with one of the "cut" endings.

Those are 100%, not question the Virmire models of Kaiden and Ashley.

Shepard's Psyche is constructing this space If you weren't convinced before, I don't know how you couldn't be.

Right. Bioware's lazy design totally proves this thread's bs thoery.

Player haters in this house if you see them point um' out.

[Arkis1909]

 Hey guys, been following this for a while. Great stuff, not sure if it's legit, but it's a damn good read....

A few things on the final CItadel walkthrough...

1. In the corpse hallway, there is webbing on the walls/ceiling, similar to the Rachni tunnels. Hmm?

2. You guys have mentioned Andersons weird positioning ("i'm behind you") and then finding a way in front. Not to strike a blow against the theory, but when you get to the chasm (which he mentions first) if you look to the left and right, there is a small metal cat-walk flush against the wall (covered in bodies if memory serves). This could explain how he gets to the room that seemingly only has one entrance, and does hamper the theory....

3. The two beams that flank the stairs up to the control room (the ones with 1M1 on them) are shaped like the prow guns on Alliance cruisers/dreadnoughts.

4. The floor in the control room (the circular platform that you have TIM and Andersons encounter with) is the same design as the QEC floor plate in TIM's office. Just MUCH larger.

5. I'm surprised no one has mentioned the cylinder that appears in the room after you open the Citadels arms. The floor is flat, but then Shepard and Anderson lean against a raised platform to say their goodbyes.

Now, any and all of this can be chalked up to conincidence, reusing various objects for unity of art direction, or just lazy editing.... or you guys can go nuts.

[Rahabzu]

Terraforming2154 wrote...

Teh Tux wrote...

In reguards to the Stargazer scene; It is meaningless. In my opnion.
If the indoctronation theory is true, it can still happen. Someone on a planet somwhere in the galaxy is talking about shepard's exploits.
If its false, then it would be exactly the same.

I think the stargazer scene is being looked into far too much.

Kind of ironic im saying that though, especially due to the nature of the thread... <____<

The more I think about it, I agree.
I feel like the old man's speech could be seen as a description of what we loved about mass effect - the sense of exploration, the vastness of space, etc. I also think it was used to set up to future games, like, Shepard's story was just one cog in a very big wheel.

Or I could be way off the mark.

I find it odd that they expect to continue the story without shepard as well as without the mass relays, and possibly with races dying out 0_o or everyone being cyborgs.

[Ona Demonie]

RedSpectrum47 wrote...

When someone asked @masseffect to give them a cryptic answer as to whether they had something planned, @masseffect said "the sun is shining"

On the CE box, that hand pulling that arm out of the rubble may be Shepard freeing himself, getting himself back up, and in the background, I see sunlight

"The sun is shining" could also be perceived as "dawn of a new day" or "hope". Seriously, I could go on with symbolism.

[N3vDawg]

Auresta wrote...

Fledgey wrote...

https://twitter.com/...786147139043328 Oh god, is this guy posting in this thread? We need to know what was talked about. ****.

lol I'm curious too!

I asked chris

[krystalevenstar]

I would just like to remind everyone not to get discouraged if we don't hear something exactly on the 15th. They might give Japan a few days to play through and go through this themselves before outting anything.

[LenabotSE]

Mallissin wrote...

Handren wrote...

Malissin, Synthesis is what Saren wanted. He said a lot about this in ME1.

I don't think so. I played ME1 again (and ME2) over the last few weeks and I don't remember him wanting to literally do what Synthesis did. He was mostly trying to battle the Reaper's influence on him and remain in control.

Negatory - rewatch his final speech on youtube.  He's obsessed with merging man and machine.  Strenghts of both, weaknesses of neither.  Join Sovereign and ascend, yadda yadda.  



As for the bodies, given how they are not present at all in the run, yet present during the supposed dream state, I think something's up.  They aren't going to randomly generate bodies and take up disc space if the terrain was meant to be empty in the place.  You don't see the Ashley/Kaidan bodies anywhere else in the game - just generic ME3 stock marines - just during that moment and the Citadel.  Remember that someone had to take time - during a game that's on massive time and money constraints - to make those individual models of the Kaidan and Ashley bodies.

[Ravax]

Guys, and girls.. bear with me for a sec...

A terrible thought has just crossed my mind...

The general consensus is that they are waiting for the game to be released in asia/japan right?

Well, I live in Shanghai, and have been living in Asia for a while, i know how they are...
I have been to Japan MANY times, and now how they are as well...

Many Japanese (students mainly - high school/University) are under EXTREMELY high levels of stress, and DEPEND on games to alleviate that stress, and blow off steam... You dont understand, it borders religion and worship...

Their reaction to these endings might reach a degree of severity we would not be able to conceive, especially for the ones that have come to love the Mass Effect universe, and have been waiting for ME3 for a while like most of us..

I hate mentioning this, but the thought has crossed my mind, that some of the 'lesser willed' over there, might even contemplate suicide... as they do even just because of their levels of stress associated with jobs/studies...

I hope I am wrong, sincerely...

[AnnaExMachina]

Mallissin wrote...

AnnaExMachina wrote...

Mallissin wrote...

blooregard wrote...
the reapers have been killing anything squishy for the past billion or so years they don't want organtics to understand them nor do they try and understand organtics they simply show up kill them then leave they aren't like the geth at all who have for the most part been observing organtic life peacfully

I think one the DLCs they're making is going to explain the Reaper origins, which is why they're trying to hold us hanging.

Remember, we haven't seen the Battarian side of the war yet, or the Leviathian of Dis, which in ME3 was admitted to being a Reaper.

About the Leviathan, some thought it was actually Sovereign.

I was one of those people, but I think a dev said it wasn't and they seem to know everything.

Still an interesting theory. When I first saw the Cannibal husks I thought for sure that the entire Batarian Hegemony were indoctrinated and let the Reapers in or something like that.

[panamakira]

Ona Demonie wrote...

panamakira wrote...

When does ME3 release in Asia? Maybe we'll hear something after that no?

My wishful thinking.

March 15th.

Hmmm.....the devs twitter weren't active at all until what? last night? before they would just tweet they were happy fans liked it, etc. Especially @masseffect but today they were tweeting all kinds of cryptic messages and directly answering to fans complaining about the ending. Oh man they better live up to whatever they're planning.

I fear for us if it's not what we're expecting.

Modifié par panamakira, 14 mars 2012 - 04:45 .

[ArkkAngel007]

Miss Vader wrote...

Fledgey wrote...

Icinix wrote...

Fledgey wrote...

https://twitter.com/...786147139043328 Oh god, is this guy posting in this thread? We need to know what was talked about. ****.

Whats a DM?

Direct message. Same as a PM.

can anyone contact this guy and ask what was in the message they got?

It's usually seen fairly tacky to post something a dev PMs you about in confidence.  We had an issue a few months back when one of our regulars posted a conversation that was supposed to stay between them and the dev without consulting the dev on making it public beforehand.  It wasn't anything major mind you, but the devs made it clear that if something is PMd to us, it should stay in the inbox unless they say otherwise. 

Of course, that guy should ask Jessica if he can.  More than likely she will say yes, as even in a PM, devs and staff can't say much more than what they do publically.  

[RC Clone]

krystalevenstar wrote...
Are you serious dude?  Do you think after this many years of development they'd just throw random textures in the climax of their game series? Have a little common sense.

Yes that's exactly what I'm saying.

This ending that we got is terrible. Unfinished. Illogical

But it isn't some cleverly crafted trick that Bioware made to tease fans like a puzzle. It's just bad.

[zSeven]

I fully support this theory though I do believe in many cases you guys are grasping at straws. I want to believe Bioware put this much thought into the ending but there will always be that doubt in the back of my mind until it is confirmed.

[Terraforming2154]

Rahabzu wrote...

Terraforming2154 wrote...

Teh Tux wrote...

In reguards to the Stargazer scene; It is meaningless. In my opnion.
If the indoctronation theory is true, it can still happen. Someone on a planet somwhere in the galaxy is talking about shepard's exploits.
If its false, then it would be exactly the same.

I think the stargazer scene is being looked into far too much.

Kind of ironic im saying that though, especially due to the nature of the thread... <____<

The more I think about it, I agree.
I feel like the old man's speech could be seen as a description of what we loved about mass effect - the sense of exploration, the vastness of space, etc. I also think it was used to set up to future games, like, Shepard's story was just one cog in a very big wheel.

Or I could be way off the mark.

I find it odd that they expect to continue the story without shepard as well as without the mass relays, and possibly with races dying out 0_o or everyone being cyborgs.

Lol, well I agree personally, but I can definitely see an extended universe type thing with it. Honestly, I would hate to see the universe they've created go away, but then again, they did a good job messing it up themselves with the endings as they currently stand.

I don't know what to think.

Modifié par Terraforming2154, 14 mars 2012 - 04:46 .

[krystalevenstar]

BTW

Just for reference, this image is on the back of the box that contained all the CE stuff like the artbook, the patch, postcard, etc.

Modifié par krystalevenstar, 14 mars 2012 - 04:48 .

[LenabotSE]

LenabotSE wrote...

Mallissin wrote...

Handren wrote...

Malissin, Synthesis is what Saren wanted. He said a lot about this in ME1.

I don't think so. I played ME1 again (and ME2) over the last few weeks and I don't remember him wanting to literally do what Synthesis did. He was mostly trying to battle the Reaper's influence on him and remain in control.

Negatory - rewatch his final speech on youtube.  He's obsessed with merging man and machine.  Strenghts of both, weaknesses of neither.  Join Sovereign and ascend, yadda yadda.  



As for the bodies, given how they are not present at all in the run, yet present during the supposed dream state, I think something's up.  They aren't going to randomly generate bodies and take up disc space if the terrain was meant to be empty in the first place.  You don't see the Ashley/Kaidan bodies anywhere else in the game - only generic ME3 stock marines - just during that moment and the Citadel.  Remember that someone had to take time - during a game that's on massive time and money constraints - to make those individual models of the Kaidan and Ashley bodies.

(er, edit fail, sorry)

Modifié par LenabotSE, 14 mars 2012 - 04:47 .

[RedSpectrum47]

Ona Demonie wrote...

RedSpectrum47 wrote...

When someone asked @masseffect to give them a cryptic answer as to whether they had something planned, @masseffect said "the sun is shining"

On the CE box, that hand pulling that arm out of the rubble may be Shepard freeing himself, getting himself back up, and in the background, I see sunlight

"The sun is shining" could also be perceived as "dawn of a new day" or "hope". Seriously, I could go on with symbolism.

I also considered that too but anything is possible

[AnnaExMachina]

LenabotSE wrote...

LenabotSE wrote...

Mallissin wrote...

Handren wrote...

Malissin, Synthesis is what Saren wanted. He said a lot about this in ME1.

I don't think so. I played ME1 again (and ME2) over the last few weeks and I don't remember him wanting to literally do what Synthesis did. He was mostly trying to battle the Reaper's influence on him and remain in control.

Negatory - rewatch his final speech on youtube.  He's obsessed with merging man and machine.  Strenghts of both, weaknesses of neither.  Join Sovereign and ascend, yadda yadda.  



As for the bodies, given how they are not present at all in the run, yet present during the supposed dream state, I think something's up.  They aren't going to randomly generate bodies and take up disc space if the terrain was meant to be empty in the first place.  You don't see the Ashley/Kaidan bodies anywhere else in the game - only generic ME3 stock marines - just during that moment and the Citadel.  Remember that someone had to take time - during a game that's on massive time and money constraints - to make those individual models of the Kaidan and Ashley bodies.

(er, edit fail, sorry)

That was after he was indoctrinated and implanted. On Virmire he was talking about proving his usefulness to Sovereign, trying to say us by submitting.

[upsettingshorts]

Ravax wrote...

A terrible thought has just crossed my mind...

I'm not one to jump to conclusions but based on the sensationalist, melodramatic hyperbole of your post I'd say the lion's share of your thoughts are probably terrible.

[RC Clone]

zSeven wrote...

I fully support this theory though I do believe in many cases you guys are grasping at straws. I want to believe Bioware put this much thought into the ending but there will always be that doubt in the back of my mind until it is confirmed.

Forget this thread man. Bioware got rushed and put out this terrible abomination.

This abomination isn't a clever puzzle that was made to trick fans. It's just terrible writing that makes no sense.


And if it was some big trick. Would anyone here prefer they spent time making this trick instead of giving us multiple varied ending like they said they would?

[balance5050]

So, I know this has been mentioned, but I would just like to stress the "the arrival" DLC basically just serves as one huge clue... or rather collection of clues for this theory.

[squee365]

RC Clone wrote...

zSeven wrote...

I fully support this theory though I do believe in many cases you guys are grasping at straws. I want to believe Bioware put this much thought into the ending but there will always be that doubt in the back of my mind until it is confirmed.

Forget this thread man. Bioware got rushed and put out this terrible abomination.

This abomination isn't a clever puzzle that was made to trick fans. It's just terrible writing that makes no sense.


And if it was some big trick. Would anyone here prefer they spent time making this trick instead of giving us multiple varied ending like they said they would?

But 95% of the game is not terrible writing, why is ONLY the last couple minutes so terrible? It makes no sense. If something has horrible writing, its obvious from the start, not the very end.

[Rahabzu]

RC Clone wrote...

zSeven wrote...

I fully support this theory though I do believe in many cases you guys are grasping at straws. I want to believe Bioware put this much thought into the ending but there will always be that doubt in the back of my mind until it is confirmed.

Forget this thread man. Bioware got rushed and put out this terrible abomination.

This abomination isn't a clever puzzle that was made to trick fans. It's just terrible writing that makes no sense.


And if it was some big trick. Would anyone here prefer they spent time making this trick instead of giving us multiple varied ending like they said they would?

Technically if this theory was true it would be the indoctrination+ the multiple varied endings afterwards.

[NightAntilli]

RC Clone wrote...

zSeven wrote...

I fully support this theory though I do believe in many cases you guys are grasping at straws. I want to believe Bioware put this much thought into the ending but there will always be that doubt in the back of my mind until it is confirmed.

Forget this thread man. Bioware got rushed and put out this terrible abomination.

This abomination isn't a clever puzzle that was made to trick fans. It's just terrible writing that makes no sense.


And if it was some big trick. Would anyone here prefer they spent time making this trick instead of giving us multiple varied ending like they said they would?

We wont know until we see it, will we?