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So I guess it is safe to say the Assume Control ending is indoctrination.

Ok, I just found this here: https://twitter.com/#!/masseffect

Malcom Stewart ‏ @iGoTzPancaKeMix
@masseffect playing #MassEffect3 while listening to the #ME3 soundtrack while using #ME3 datapad. Clearly I'm indoctrinated
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@igotzpancakemix Sounds like you're assuming direct control ; )
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#10127
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ArkkAngel007 wrote...


You personally may not be pushing this theory on others, but I have been linked to this thread five times today on 3 different sites. I decided to "participate" after seeing this so much.

And I gave my take on it.

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xDarkspace wrote...

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krystalevenstar wrote...

krystalevenstar wrote...

BTW Posted Image

Just for reference, this image is on the back of the box that contained all the CE stuff like the artbook, the patch, postcard, etc.


No thoughts about this? I wasn't here when it was originally posted around page 360 something I think.


Someone is helping Shepard up from the rubble..


or Shepard is helping some up from the rubble...


dang...O_O:O


or shep is helping shep up from the rubble meaning his own will is lifting him up to contuniue.


OH MAN! This is doing my head in! Argh! Anybody else feel like they're going crazy? :pinched:

#10129
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Upsettingshorts wrote...

Ravax wrote...

A terrible thought has just crossed my mind...


I'm not one to jump to conclusions but based on the sensationalist, melodramatic hyperbole of your post I'd say the lion's share of your thoughts are probably terrible.

I laughed.

And then I read the post you were responded to and laughed again, abet guiltily.

#10130
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Ona Demonie wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Wow, I think you should be reported and banned for so many things right now, has nothing to do with thread. You make me sick troll.

Talking to ravax... but shame on you for feeding a troll 
]Ona Demonie.

How about you step away from the keyboard and take a deep breath? I am not feeding a troll. She brought up an valid point that has truth to it. If you ever studied Japanese culture, you will indeed find that a lot of the people are stressed. Part of their culture is work and they take education seriously. It's not common to find a lot of people going to bars at night from a hard day's work. Students DO play video games as stress reliver, whether they are American, Japanese, or another ethinicity. If you actually google your information, you will find the dark side to Japan's society when it comes to suicide. I'm not saying there's going to be suicides, but knowing how the human mind works with stress, depression, and other factors, I wouldn't be surprised if someone, somewhere took a drastic action. I hate going off topic, but calling her a "troll" for speaking the truth isn't acceptable. 


Thank you...:) 

Thank god you see past the keystrokes and actually use your brain!

#10131
ArkkAngel007

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balance5050 wrote...

Ona Demonie wrote...

Ravax wrote...

Guys, and girls.. bear with me for a sec...

A terrible thought has just crossed my mind...

The general consensus is that they are waiting for the game to be released in asia/japan right?

Well, I live in Shanghai, and have been living in Asia for a while, i know how they are...
I have been to Japan MANY times, and now how they are as well...

Many Japanese (students mainly - high school/University) are under EXTREMELY high levels of stress, and DEPEND on games to alleviate that stress, and blow off steam... You dont understand, it borders religion and worship...

Their reaction to these endings might reach a degree of severity we would not be able to conceive, especially for the ones that have come to love the Mass Effect universe, and have been waiting for ME3 for a while like most of us..

I hate mentioning this, but the thought has crossed my mind, that some of the 'lesser willed' over there, might even contemplate suicide... as they do even just because of their levels of stress associated with jobs/studies...

I hope I am wrong, sincerely...

THIS. Just, THIS. This alone has me worried. Japan's suicide rate has been on the rise, and I have been worried since the day I saw the early leaks that someone, somewhere, may commit suicide because the endings were the final blow. 


Wow, I think you should be reported and banned for so many things right now, has nothing to do with thread. You make me sick troll.

Talking to ravax... but shame on you for feeding a troll 
]Ona Demonie.


It's not trolling.  Is it really relevent?  No, it belongs elsewhere no doubt.  But it is a rising concern in both the educational and industrial areas of the culture over there.  I think this is fairly exaggerated, but when you speak with some of these otakus...well, it's a completely different culture than what you see on the surface.

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xDarkspace wrote...

MasterMenace wrote...

krystalevenstar wrote...

krystalevenstar wrote...

BTW Posted Image

Just for reference, this image is on the back of the box that contained all the CE stuff like the artbook, the patch, postcard, etc.


No thoughts about this? I wasn't here when it was originally posted around page 360 something I think.


Someone is helping Shepard up from the rubble..


or Shepard is helping some up from the rubble...


dang...O_O:O


or shep is helping shep up from the rubble meaning his own will is lifting him up to contuniue.




SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEE:D

#10133
kent80082006

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Hate to say this but some people here are becoming delusional, may just be trolling though
That artwork with the two hands isn't implying anything! Wake up!

Modifié par kent80082006, 14 mars 2012 - 05:10 .


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kent80082006 wrote...

Hate to say this but some people here are becoming delusional, may just be trolling though


No they've been indoctrinated, just what Bioware wanted.

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Let's stay focused here, guys. If we're really concerned about our friends over the ocean, I'm sure we can find some way to communicate with them/help them through it. But it's lending this thread a sensationalist vibe, which doesn't help our case.

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Little offtopic but im now on my second playthrough and because war assets and everything matters so little in the end that i just don't give a f.... So now im trying to mess up as much as i can, say and do the all the wrong things. Kinda gives new twists to the plot :devil:

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Arkis1909 wrote...

3. The two beams that flank the stairs up to the control room (the ones with 1M1 on them) are shaped like the prow guns on Alliance cruisers/dreadnoughts.


This, this, this, the first thing I though when seeing them was "Why is there gun in this part of the Citadel?".

I think it's the element that seemed the most "out-of-place", especially when these "guns" couldn't target anything from where they were.

#10138
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Radioflyer3 wrote...

So I guess it is safe to say the Assume Control ending is indoctrination.

Ok, I just found this here: https://twitter.com/#!/masseffect

Malcom Stewart ‏ @iGoTzPancaKeMix
@masseffect playing #MassEffect3 while listening to the #ME3 soundtrack while using #ME3 datapad. Clearly I'm indoctrinated
9:10 PM - 13 Mar 12 via Twitter for iPhone · Details

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@igotzpancakemix Sounds like you're assuming direct control ; )
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While I seriously hope this theory is 'correct,' and admire your enthusiasm, take care not to get to a point where you are going on blind optimism or belief.  Though I know Garrus preferred blind optimism :P

#10139
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If not for the Normandy relay/crash scene, I'd say you guys are making a mountain out of nothing. But this is the only explanation that explains that scene.

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kent80082006 wrote...

Hate to say this but some people here are becoming delusional, may just be trolling though
That artwork with the two hands isn't implying anything! Wake up!


Care to tell me what it might possibly be representative of then? Since you seem to have all the answers? <_<

#10141
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AnnaExMachina wrote...

Mallissin wrote...

Icinix wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

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When someone asked @masseffect to give them a cryptic answer as to whether they had something planned, @masseffect said "the sun is shining"

On the CE box, that hand pulling that arm out of the rubble may be Shepard freeing himself, getting himself back up, and in the background, I see sunlight


Again, where's the time-travel theories? If we're messing with dark energy here, anything could be possible.


Oh hell yeah!!

Future Shep goes back to help past Shep fight indoctrination!


No no no. Time travel is sooo 90s. It's all about metaverses now.

In other words, femshep crosses over to alternative reality to stop indoctrinated maleshep or vice versa.

Possibly making yourself a love interest.


Would that be masturbation or somehow incest?


...well on one hand (pardon the pun) its masturbation because you're doing it to yourself - but on the other - its incest because its not you but your own blood...

...masturcest?

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MissMaster_2 wrote...

xDarkspace wrote...

MasterMenace wrote...

krystalevenstar wrote...

krystalevenstar wrote...

BTW Posted Image

Just for reference, this image is on the back of the box that contained all the CE stuff like the artbook, the patch, postcard, etc.


No thoughts about this? I wasn't here when it was originally posted around page 360 something I think.


Someone is helping Shepard up from the rubble..


or Shepard is helping some up from the rubble...


dang...O_O:O


or shep is helping shep up from the rubble meaning his own will is lifting him up to contuniue.




SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEE:D


O
M
G!

#10143
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RC Clone wrote...

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Are you serious dude?  Do you think after this many years of development they'd just throw random textures in the climax of their game series? Have a little common sense.

Yes that's exactly what I'm saying.

This ending that we got is terrible. Unfinished. Illogical

But it isn't some cleverly crafted trick that Bioware made to tease fans like a puzzle. It's just bad.


Ah, yes; Reapers. We've dismissed that claim.

#10144
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If you'd like to discuss this theory (or counter-argue) in a neutral and controlled envrionment devoid of all fan-bashing, flame wars, and fighting, many of us theorists have already migrated over to a new base of operations to discuss in peace. If you're interested in joining us, PM me and I will direct you to our new home.

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Ona Demonie

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krystalevenstar wrote...

kent80082006 wrote...

Hate to say this but some people here are becoming delusional, may just be trolling though
That artwork with the two hands isn't implying anything! Wake up!


Care to tell me what it might possibly be representative of then? Since you seem to have all the answers? <_<

Could it show that Shepard is the "hope" for Earth?

#10146
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Joyceee wrote...

xDarkspace wrote...

MasterMenace wrote...

krystalevenstar wrote...

krystalevenstar wrote...

BTW Posted Image

Just for reference, this image is on the back of the box that contained all the CE stuff like the artbook, the patch, postcard, etc.


No thoughts about this? I wasn't here when it was originally posted around page 360 something I think.


Someone is helping Shepard up from the rubble..


or Shepard is helping some up from the rubble...


dang...O_O:O


or shep is helping shep up from the rubble meaning his own will is lifting him up to contuniue.


OH MAN! This is doing my head in! Argh! Anybody else feel like they're going crazy? :pinched:


Shep pulling himself into the light?

#10147
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Concept art is hardly indicative of anything, on that I think you're looking too deeply. It's just a symbolic piece on Shepard helping Earth.

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I feel like over the course of the last few hours (30 pages) we have lost focus on what we actually came in here to do which is discuss the topic at hand, and while many of the points are valid i think we are getting to hung up on such small things like the artwork on the back of the CE edition. That could just be a symbolic picture for the tone the game carries through from start to finish.

#10149
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Icinix wrote...

AnnaExMachina wrote...

Mallissin wrote...

Icinix wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

RedSpectrum47 wrote...

When someone asked @masseffect to give them a cryptic answer as to whether they had something planned, @masseffect said "the sun is shining"

On the CE box, that hand pulling that arm out of the rubble may be Shepard freeing himself, getting himself back up, and in the background, I see sunlight


Again, where's the time-travel theories? If we're messing with dark energy here, anything could be possible.


Oh hell yeah!!

Future Shep goes back to help past Shep fight indoctrination!


No no no. Time travel is sooo 90s. It's all about metaverses now.

In other words, femshep crosses over to alternative reality to stop indoctrinated maleshep or vice versa.

Possibly making yourself a love interest.


Would that be masturbation or somehow incest?


...well on one hand (pardon the pun) its masturbation because you're doing it to yourself - but on the other - its incest because its not you but your own blood...

...masturcest?


You have the same DNA and things... like twins... twincest?

#10150
krystalevenstar

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BlackDragonBane wrote...

If you'd like to discuss this theory (or counter-argue) in a neutral and controlled envrionment devoid of all fan-bashing, flame wars, and fighting, many of us theorists have already migrated over to a new base of operations to discuss in peace. If you're interested in joining us, PM me and I will direct you to our new home.


*clings* AH! Someone I recognize from the past few days XD Please to be linking?