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[JediNg]

krystalevenstar wrote...

kent80082006 wrote...

Hate to say this but some people here are becoming delusional, may just be trolling though
That artwork with the two hands isn't implying anything! Wake up!

Care to tell me what it might possibly be representative of then? Since you seem to have all the answers? <_<

He doesn't have all the answers.  He's just reminding you to be reasonable, instead of finding everything that has even a remote possibility of fitting into this theory and going Ah-ha!

[Luan]

SO what have we gathered so far?
1. Anderson being up in the citadel with you makes no sense, especially that he makes it to the control room before you since there is only one entrance to the room.
2. the Catalyst takes the form of the Child which you see die on earth, there is no way an AI could take the form of something it doesn't know, only Shepard has seen the Child.
3. During the Control/Synthesis endings, Shepard's eyes are exactly like The Illusive Man's, which basically proves that he/she is indoctrinated, and it's the Reapers way of showing you that they've won.
4. During the Destroy ending, Shepard stays strong to the motto of Victory Through Sacrifice. His/her eyes stay the same and you can see him/her breathing again in the rubble after the entire ordeal is over, the rubble seems to be London. This all means that you've beaten Indoctrination.
5. The Normandy NEVER picked up your crew from London, so why is it that Liara, EDI, Javik and Garrus were there when they were down on Earth with Shepard? well, that's simply the Reaper's comforting you, showing that your closest friends are still alive. That allows them to make the Indoctrination process easier, since you've found comfort.

[crimsontotem]

just an observation at the ending scene

when you chose "Control" the camerazoom super closely to that freaking kid's face for like unnecessary two seconds and continue to the next scene... what the hell? why would they do that kinda thing?
- TIM wanted this way, and if our theory is correct, personification of synthetic part as well.

When you chose "Synthesis" ending whic in my opinion total bs, it shows you kid watching you like a creepy little old man. hmm I wonder why.
- Saren once said "flesh and machine combination is awesome WHOO!"

in the "Destroy" ending, you see kid just peacing out as soon as Shep starts to unload his rage on that cylinder thing. (I stronly like the concept of Shep using his "willpower" being represented as a gun, that can blow who know how old machine to kingdome come, to "Destroy" reapers.)

IDK jus throwing observation here...notice how those other two guys got ended up. Why would the kid peace out only in Destroy ending while in the other two show either kid staying or gazing at you for 3 seconds.

and Still people disapproving theory did not delievered good enough objection to why it is the only in "Destroy" ending that we see Shepard making a sound as if he was waking up from a bad dream.

Modifié par crimsontotem, 14 mars 2012 - 05:17 .

[ArkkAngel007]

Ok guys, we're starting to move into mod hammer territory with the inappropriate talk (yeah, it's a M game, but they want it clean here). A bit off topicness and fan fiction is fine, but let's not get carried away.

[zSeven]

Icinix wrote...

Joyceee wrote...

xDarkspace wrote...

MasterMenace wrote...

krystalevenstar wrote...

krystalevenstar wrote...

BTW

Just for reference, this image is on the back of the box that contained all the CE stuff like the artbook, the patch, postcard, etc.

No thoughts about this? I wasn't here when it was originally posted around page 360 something I think.

Someone is helping Shepard up from the rubble..


or Shepard is helping some up from the rubble...


dang...O_O:O

or shep is helping shep up from the rubble meaning his own will is lifting him up to contuniue.

OH MAN! This is doing my head in! Argh! Anybody else feel like they're going crazy? 

Shep pulling himself into the light?

Pulling himself through the red destroy ending.

Wat.

But I really think you guys are looking too hard to find meaning in everything at this point.

[xDarkspace]

Reaper of Reapers wrote...

kent80082006 wrote...

Hate to say this but some people here are becoming delusional, may just be trolling though

No they've been indoctrinated, just what Bioware wanted.

both of you dont belong is this thread and where not delusional we have found more evidence the any other theory.

[kent80082006]

krystalevenstar wrote...

kent80082006 wrote...

Hate to say this but some people here are becoming delusional, may just be trolling though
That artwork with the two hands isn't implying anything! Wake up!

Care to tell me what it might possibly be representative of then? Since you seem to have all the answers? <_<

It's an artwork only available in the collector's edition! And if you think they've learnt anything from the day 1 dlc controversy it would be not to cut out content and make it only accessible to people who pay more, let alone putting implications of the ending in a collector's editon!

[Amialis666]

Ravax wrote...

Guys, and girls.. bear with me for a sec...

A terrible thought has just crossed my mind...

The general consensus is that they are waiting for the game to be released in asia/japan right?

Well, I live in Shanghai, and have been living in Asia for a while, i know how they are...
I have been to Japan MANY times, and now how they are as well...

Many Japanese (students mainly - high school/University) are under EXTREMELY high levels of stress, and DEPEND on games to alleviate that stress, and blow off steam... You dont understand, it borders religion and worship...

Their reaction to these endings might reach a degree of severity we would not be able to conceive, especially for the ones that have come to love the Mass Effect universe, and have been waiting for ME3 for a while like most of us..

I hate mentioning this, but the thought has crossed my mind, that some of the 'lesser willed' over there, might even contemplate suicide... as they do even just because of their levels of stress associated with jobs/studies...

I hope I am wrong, sincerely...

I so hope this isn't a headline on Mar 16/17th "Thousands of japanese adolescents committed suicide yesterday. A link between these cases appears to that they all had finished playing the game Mass Effect 3...... a lawsuit is being filed by their parents against the gaming giant Election Arts who published the game"

[ArkkAngel007]

JediNg wrote...

krystalevenstar wrote...

kent80082006 wrote...

Hate to say this but some people here are becoming delusional, may just be trolling though
That artwork with the two hands isn't implying anything! Wake up!

Care to tell me what it might possibly be representative of then? Since you seem to have all the answers? <_<

He doesn't have all the answers.  He's just reminding you to be reasonable, instead of finding everything that has even a remote possibility of fitting into this theory and going Ah-ha!

Like with a lot of the Twitter comments being taken out of context?  People can get overstimulated and things get looked at differently.  Just correct them and move on.

The artwork could mean something.  There isn't proof that says otherwise, nor is there proof that it does.  It's completely open to interpretation.  Starting to notice a trend here...

[AnnaExMachina]

I've been wondering about the Breath scene at the end of Destroy. You're also shown not wearing the armor you had before you were lazered by Harbinger. Do you think that scene could also be a metaphor for Shepard waking up from her indoctrination?

[BlackDragonBane]

All the 'haters' have been claiming that Bioware is terrible with stories despite all the praised story-driven games they have. Now... is it just me or have many forgotten the opening to Mass Effect 2 where your Shepard DIES within the first 5-10 minutes of the game and you spend about 2 minutes panicking Bioware just screwed you over?

[Slashout]

I am not sure this was discussed, but in the ending where shepard lives.
When the camera shows him breathing, the rubbles around him are part of walls and rocks, they are not made of metal like that would be if he was on the citadel.
That's conclusive proof that he wakes up on earth I believe.

So yeah, he never went up the beam.

Modifié par Slashout, 14 mars 2012 - 05:22 .

[Reaper of Reapers]

xDarkspace wrote...

Reaper of Reapers wrote...

kent80082006 wrote...

Hate to say this but some people here are becoming delusional, may just be trolling though

No they've been indoctrinated, just what Bioware wanted.

both of you dont belong is this thread and where not delusional we have found more evidence the any other theory.

Sorry i forgot to use my sarcasm font. I fully support this theory but you have to admit Bioware really got us with the ending, a total mindf*** if you will.

[seitani]

seriously what in the hell is this talk about suicides

[zSeven]

Slashout wrote...

I am not sure this was discussed, but in the ending where shepard lives.
When the camera shows him breathing, the rubbles around him are part of walls and rocks, they are not made of metal like that would be if he was on the citadel.
Conclusive proof that he wakes up on earth I believe.

This is the main point the entire theory is based upon.

Modifié par zSeven, 14 mars 2012 - 05:23 .

[Jo-shee]

[ArkkAngel007]

Slashout wrote...

I am not sure this was discussed, but in the ending where shepard lives.
When the camera shows him breathing, the rubbles around him are part of walls and rocks, they are not made of metal like that would be if he was on the citadel.
Conclusive proof that he wakes up on earth I believe.

You see the same shelving and rebar that you saw in the environment in London.  Shepard is on Earth.  The how is the question we feel we have answered, but can't confirm until, well, it's confirmed.

[XxMythicAgexX]

Ok, one thing I've noticed through reading all these posts is that, no one seems to address the fact that despite Shepard waking up in the bonus scene, they still show us the Normandy crashed and Joker, LI, and the other companion getting out.

Just thought I'd point that out since it has been bugging me for a while now.

[Elscotto1989]

something to think about. in some if not all of the endings the citadel explodes after the crucible is fired...and the scene where shepard is breathing...well he fell thru the atmosphere again...it didnt end well last time in full armor...therefore i doubt that he wouldve lived through that being less prepared then last time.

[zSeven]

XxMythicAgexX wrote...

Ok, one thing I've noticed through reading all these posts is that, no one seems to address the fact that despite Shepard waking up in the bonus scene, they still show us the Normandy crashed and Joker, LI, and the other companion getting out.

Just thought I'd point that out since it has been bugging me for a while now.

That is part of the hallucination shown to Shepard to reassure him he made the right choice.

[Ivalane]

I'm rather fond of the theory that Shep never wakes up from the last freaky dream sequence between the Cerberus base and Earth.  (my hubby is trying to convince me nothing past Ilos was real! O_o he's a loon)

[CokaCola Cat]

Slashout wrote...

I am not sure this was discussed, but in the ending where shepard lives.
When the camera shows him breathing, the rubbles around him are part of walls and rocks, they are not made of metal like that would be if he was on the citadel.
COnclusive proof that he wakes up on earth I believe.

Obviously, he is on Earth, but you can also hear the creaking and groaning of metal. Did he never leave Earth, or is it just where the Citadel crashed on Earth (creaking and groaning metal). Or perhaps the Citadel transported him back down. Who knows. It's open to interpitation at this point.

[seitani]

XxMythicAgexX wrote...

Ok, one thing I've noticed through reading all these posts is that, no one seems to address the fact that despite Shepard waking up in the bonus scene, they still show us the Normandy crashed and Joker, LI, and the other companion getting out.

Just thought I'd point that out since it has been bugging me for a while now.

normandy scene is shown before shepard wakes so its part of the hallucination

[balance5050]

Ona Demonie wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Wow, I think you should be reported and banned for so many things right now, has nothing to do with thread. You make me sick troll.

Talking to ravax... but shame on you for feeding a troll 
]Ona Demonie.

How about you step away from the keyboard and take a deep breath? I am not feeding a troll. She brought up an valid point that has truth to it. If you ever studied Japanese culture, you will indeed find that a lot of the people are stressed. Part of their culture is work and they take education seriously. It's not common to find a lot of people going to bars at night from a hard day's work. Students DO play video games as stress reliver, whether they are American, Japanese, or another ethinicity. If you actually google your information, you will find the dark side to Japan's society when it comes to suicide. I'm not saying there's going to be suicides, but knowing how the human mind works with stress, depression, and other factors, I wouldn't be surprised if someone, somewhere took a drastic action. I hate going off topic, but calling her a "troll" for speaking the truth isn't acceptable. 

Wow, with all the depressing things out there. I hope you know that the japanese are already into some pretty hardcore depressing things, I have felt souless after watching some of the japanese horror genre, and this little tragedy story (for the indoctrinated) isn't going to affect those "statistics", it lies within the culture, and if what you see is suicide when you look at the japanese culture (especially as a gamer)... I would'nt  want to be like you , lets just say that. 

Sad... Y so trolly?  

[xDarkspace]

in the real ending shepard gets up from being indoctranated then he starts to dance to the beam with the crew and soilders join in and the austin powers theme is playing.