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[nevar00]

I also thought the ending was crap, but I think some people have gone overboard with this, especially since (I think) most signs point to this not being over. Give them a week or so: Bioware pretty clearly has some sort of grand and different plan out there to actually finish the game, and they obviously are trying not to destroy the surprise completely yet.

Now if we wait a bit and there's still no DLC ending or if we have to pay for it, then by all means go crazy: I will too. But right now I think this will only discourage designers from trying more unique approaches to DLC and games in the future.

[Ona Demonie]

XxMythicAgexX wrote...

Ok, one thing I've noticed through reading all these posts is that, no one seems to address the fact that despite Shepard waking up in the bonus scene, they still show us the Normandy crashed and Joker, LI, and the other companion getting out.

Just thought I'd point that out since it has been bugging me for a while now.

We already discussed that pages ago.

That scene is where Shepard is getting closure for himself/herself. S/he is imagining Joker and her closest friends is on a lush, beautiful, sunny planet. Some of the crew talks about going to a place that's "sunny", or when Liara says "A ship could get lost out there".

[crimsontotem]

you know im on my second playthrough and I can't help to feel that this game is freaking epic!!! until the last ten minutes....

BW is better than this, I know it! that is why so many fan has become "uncontrollable" with this ending. I mean I know DA:Awakening wasn't going to be good cuz it's an expansion and through press it was giving its vibe as inferior to its successor... DA2 was not my type of game but it had one of the best story telling to it, in terms of politic and stuffs.
I am willing to give BW some time... seeing all these cryptic message at their tweeter gives me some hope...

back to our theory... I might be mentioning the same thing that has been said 100 pages ago, but has anyone taken a notice that throughout the dream sequence, we see the black shadowy things? and the number of that black shadowy things increase throughout the dream sequence with that brat?

Also I, myself, confirmed Mr. Vega's statement of 'hum'... it's official.

[Auresta]

Please, if you're going to present "evidence" keep in mind of the fact that there are solid arguments against your "evidence." Art on the CE box is "evidence" but be sure to also include the fact (when you provide the evidence so it doesn't get buried) that it could simply be symbolic of Shepard's fight for humanity.

We don't want our perspectives to be dimmed, here. Try to provide both sides when giving your evidence and argument. This helps our argument and others to parse what we're presenting.

[Slashout]

zSeven wrote...

Slashout wrote...

I am not sure this was discussed, but in the ending where shepard lives.
When the camera shows him breathing, the rubbles around him are part of walls and rocks, they are not made of metal like that would be if he was on the citadel.
Conclusive proof that he wakes up on earth I believe.

This is the main point the entire theory is based upon.

Really? Guess I missed that, I read a lot of topic on the subject and it seems to me it was based on "weird trees" which turned out to be fake, some inconcistencies like number written there and there, unlimited amo, some weird dialogues and so on. Didn't see this mentioned ever.
Well the posts flew past very fast.
If everyone knows that I believe the rest of the discussion to proove it's an hallucination isn't really necessary. Shepard didn't get blown off the Citadel into earth.

Modifié par Slashout, 14 mars 2012 - 05:27 .

[Icinix]

zSeven wrote...

Icinix wrote...

Joyceee wrote...

xDarkspace wrote...

MasterMenace wrote...

krystalevenstar wrote...
No thoughts about this? I wasn't here when it was originally posted around page 360 something I think.

Someone is helping Shepard up from the rubble..


or Shepard is helping some up from the rubble...


dang...O_O:O

or shep is helping shep up from the rubble meaning his own will is lifting him up to contuniue.

OH MAN! This is doing my head in! Argh! Anybody else feel like they're going crazy? 

Shep pulling himself into the light?

Pulling himself through the red destroy ending.

Wat.

But I really think you guys are looking too hard to find meaning in everything at this point.

Only if you look at it to serioulsy

This is more interesting that what I'm doing...
..which is of course...work

[Val Nika]

Been following this theory since I beat the game... I had taken everything at face value but still knew something was up. It makes so much sense. Really what does it for me now when rewatching the endings is when you first start shooting to choose the destroy ending, Shepard is shooting slowly. Then all of a sudden s/he stands up straight, doesn't act hurt anymore, and marches proudly on, blowing up the damn thing. It almost seems like Shepard "snapped out of it" at that moment. It just seems so fitting. Even if BW doesn't add an ending, I still believe that was the intention, especially because of the breathing scene at the end. Gahhhhh! All these cryptic tweets are killing me!

[XxMythicAgexX]

seitani wrote...

XxMythicAgexX wrote...

Ok, one thing I've noticed through reading all these posts is that, no one seems to address the fact that despite Shepard waking up in the bonus scene, they still show us the Normandy crashed and Joker, LI, and the other companion getting out.

Just thought I'd point that out since it has been bugging me for a while now.

normandy scene is shown before shepard wakes so its part of the hallucination

I could of sworn the Normandy scene is after Shep wakes up, oh well, youtube will be my savior again.

*EDIT* After watching the ending, it looks like i've been proven wrong. More evidence towards this being true then. Horray?

Modifié par XxMythicAgexX, 14 mars 2012 - 05:29 .

[Emperor_Ike]

XxMythicAgexX wrote...

Ok, one thing I've noticed through reading all these posts is that, no one seems to address the fact that despite Shepard waking up in the bonus scene, they still show us the Normandy crashed and Joker, LI, and the other companion getting out.

Just thought I'd point that out since it has been bugging me for a while now.

Ahh but you can't dream after you wake up! The Citadel, then the cinematic, that's all when your mind is not particularly working correctly. *Then* comes the sharp intake of breath from under the rubble of London.

[crimsontotem]

Emperor_Ike wrote...

XxMythicAgexX wrote...

Ok, one thing I've noticed through reading all these posts is that, no one seems to address the fact that despite Shepard waking up in the bonus scene, they still show us the Normandy crashed and Joker, LI, and the other companion getting out.

Just thought I'd point that out since it has been bugging me for a while now.

Ahh but you can't dream after you wake up! The Citadel, then the cinematic, that's all when your mind is not particularly working correctly. *Then* comes the sharp intake of breath from under the rubble of London.

like "Gasp! what a bad dream!"

[Little Lummo]

Just playing through and seeing the council again makes me think, i wonder what happened to them at the end, whether they were still on the Citadel or evacuated to the Destiny Ascension again?

[ArkkAngel007]

XxMythicAgexX wrote...

Ok, one thing I've noticed through reading all these posts is that, no one seems to address the fact that despite Shepard waking up in the bonus scene, they still show us the Normandy crashed and Joker, LI, and the other companion getting out.

Just thought I'd point that out since it has been bugging me for a while now.

It has been addressed a lot.  It is Shepard's mind planting closure in his mind on the fate of his crew.  It happens while Shepard is still out cold.

It's a stretch, and one of the larger ones, but it fits better than Joker bugging out for no reason with your squad mates all on board when they were all on the ground getting pounded on, including the same attack that fries you and leaves no one else alive.

[Slashout]

XxMythicAgexX wrote...

seitani wrote...

XxMythicAgexX wrote...

Ok, one thing I've noticed through reading all these posts is that, no one seems to address the fact that despite Shepard waking up in the bonus scene, they still show us the Normandy crashed and Joker, LI, and the other companion getting out.

Just thought I'd point that out since it has been bugging me for a while now.

normandy scene is shown before shepard wakes so its part of the hallucination

I could of sworn the Normandy scene is after Shep wakes up, oh well, youtube will be my savior again.

You see shepard after the normandy scene, but before the credits and the old guy and the child.

[AnnaExMachina]

Slashout wrote...

zSeven wrote...

Slashout wrote...

I am not sure this was discussed, but in the ending where shepard lives.
When the camera shows him breathing, the rubbles around him are part of walls and rocks, they are not made of metal like that would be if he was on the citadel.
Conclusive proof that he wakes up on earth I believe.

This is the main point the entire theory is based upon.

Really? Guess I missed that, I read a lot of topic on the subject and it seems to me it was based on "weird trees" which turned out to be fake, some inconcistencies like number written there and there, unlimited amo, some weird dialogues and so on. Didn't see this mentioned ever.
Well the posts flew past very fast.
If everyone knows that I believe the rest of the discussion to proove it's an hallucination isn't really necessary. Shepard didn't get blown off the Citadel into earth.

Weird trees?

[TheGoddess0fWar]

Where did all the trolls come from? Damn.

[GreatBandit]

CokaCola Cat wrote...

Slashout wrote...

I am not sure this was discussed, but in the ending where shepard lives.
When the camera shows him breathing, the rubbles around him are part of walls and rocks, they are not made of metal like that would be if he was on the citadel.
COnclusive proof that he wakes up on earth I believe.

Obviously, he is on Earth, but you can also hear the creaking and groaning of metal. Did he never leave Earth, or is it just where the Citadel crashed on Earth (creaking and groaning metal). Or perhaps the Citadel transported him back down. Who knows. It's open to interpitation at this point.

I thought, that since he was being put under an attempt to indoctriante him fully he was in a dreaming state and was never on the citadel in the first place. So the citadel never crashed to earth, he wasn't teleported back, he was just there, passed out while harby was trying to assume total control.

[JediNg]

Slashout wrote...

zSeven wrote...

Slashout wrote...

I am not sure this was discussed, but in the ending where shepard lives.
When the camera shows him breathing, the rubbles around him are part of walls and rocks, they are not made of metal like that would be if he was on the citadel.
Conclusive proof that he wakes up on earth I believe.

This is the main point the entire theory is based upon.

Really? Guess I missed that, I read a lot of topic on the subject and it seems to me it was based on "weird trees" which turned out to be fake, some inconcistencies like number written there and there, unlimited amo, some weird dialogues and so on. Didn't see this mentioned ever.
Well the posts flew past very fast.
If everyone knows that I believe the rest of the discussion to proove it's an hallucination isn't really necessary. Shepard didn't get blown off the Citadel into earth.

That's just the later stuff.  The rubble in the wake up scene and the idea that the Illusive man just kinda shows up, that deal with the kid disappearing immediately after choosing destroy, and lingering and possibly 'smirking' when you choose control are what sell it for me and the core of what they've built around here.

[XxMythicAgexX]

Alright, i was proven wrong. One less thing for me to worry about i suppose, and one more thing to support this theory. Hooray?

[AnnaExMachina]

XxMythicAgexX wrote...

Alright, i was proven wrong. One less thing for me to worry about i suppose, and one more thing to support this theory. Hooray?

Definitely hooray. This is a great theory. I can't wait to see what happens in the next few days/weeks.

[kent80082006]

To the ones who have doubts about where Shepherd woke up

Crucible destroys all relays
Citadel is a relay
Citadel is destroyed
Shepherd lives
Shepherd is not on Citadel

Logical enough?

[UKillMeLongTime]

Joyceee wrote...

xDarkspace wrote...

MasterMenace wrote...

krystalevenstar wrote...

krystalevenstar wrote...

BTW

Just for reference, this image is on the back of the box that contained all the CE stuff like the artbook, the patch, postcard, etc.

No thoughts about this? I wasn't here when it was originally posted around page 360 something I think.

Someone is helping Shepard up from the rubble..


or Shepard is helping some up from the rubble...


dang...O_O:O

or shep is helping shep up from the rubble meaning his own will is lifting him up to contuniue.

OH MAN! This is doing my head in! Argh! Anybody else feel like they're going crazy? 

that picture i also forgot about but it points out the ending is more than whats happened so far as that was taken months ago to be put in the CE

ya dont create something like that unless it has meaning and its been right in our faces the entire time

[CreepingGeth]

On the CE art posted a few pages back, with Shepard's hand embracing another, his glove has a reflection and most of it looks like rubble but then it looks like shoulders and a head sticking out of it as well. This means literally nothing, but it's just something I noticed, lol.

[xDarkspace]

Official theme for real ending.

Breaking Benjamin - I will not bow

Fits perfectly

[Grizzly2O]

Who's to say the entire game isn't a hallucination/fighting indoctrination?



Watch that.

[AnnaExMachina]

Grizzly2O wrote...

Who's to say the entire game isn't a hallucination/fighting indoctrination?



Watch that.

Very Jacob's ladder.