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[Ona Demonie]

Auresta wrote...

N3vDawg wrote...

Grizzly2O wrote...

Who's to say the entire game isn't a hallucination/fighting indoctrination?



Watch that.

Is that the same pistol from the end?

Might be. Looks like it. But it might have just been easier to give you a standard pistol to get the story moving along (ie not have to worry about giving you the weapon you equipped in the end and have that ****ed with the graphics of everything else or the mood etc.)

See, in some parts of the game, my Shepard will have a gun that I did not equip. Some times she'll have an assualt rifle when I never use an assualt rifle. Or she'll have a different SMG than the one I equipped. 

[JediNg]

Capeo wrote...

This thread is still going? The relentless reachers. There is nothing more to the end than what is shown. No hallucinations. No indoctrination. Just crappy endings planned long ago as proven by the script. There can't be any straw left in the world that isn't already in your hands.

Okay.

[Fledgey]

Capeo wrote...

This thread is still going? The relentless reachers. There is nothing more to the end than what is shown. No hallucinations. No indoctrination. Just crappy endings planned long ago as proven by the script. There can't be any straw left in the world that isn't already in your hands.

ok

[BeardedPuma]

balance5050 wrote...

kent80082006 wrote...

xDarkspace wrote...

Official theme for real ending.

Breaking Benjamin - I will not bow

Fits perfectly

Official theme for fake ending

Linkin Park - In the end

Listen to the lyrics, you'll think they wrote this song after playing ME3

HAHA that was a for real LOL moment for me, thank you kent.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!

added a link for easy access

[panamakira]

Man this is in game Inception.

[Auresta]

Capeo wrote...

This thread is still going? The relentless reachers. There is nothing more to the end than what is shown. No hallucinations. No indoctrination. Just crappy endings planned long ago as proven by the script. There can't be any straw left in the world that isn't already in your hands.

Then it's a coping thread. Or maybe not. It's something with far more substance than the endings we were given and we'll take that either way.

[LenabotSE]

I highly doubt the entire game is a hallucination. Everything proceeds fairly normal for the majority of the game -- it's only at the beam and Crucible that things get trippy nonsensical weird.

Modifié par LenabotSE, 14 mars 2012 - 05:47 .

[GovernorTarkin]

I think i heard this mentioned some pages ago but...
...Isn't it more likely your still stuck in virtual reality, being that a reaper is probably millions of times more powerful as a virtual entity than it would be in real life, therefore being able to indoctrinate at will?

[AnnaExMachina]

panamakira wrote...

Man this is in game Inception.

Mass Inception. Massception?

Modifié par AnnaExMachina, 14 mars 2012 - 05:47 .

[Fledgey]

GovernorTarkin wrote...

I think i heard this mentioned some pages ago but...
...Isn't it more likely your still stuck in virtual reality, being that a reaper is probably millions of times more powerful as a virtual entity than it would be in real life, therefore being able to indoctrinate at will?

Geth server is a optional quest, so no. Good idea though.

[BeardedPuma]

Auresta wrote...

Capeo wrote...

This thread is still going? The relentless reachers. There is nothing more to the end than what is shown. No hallucinations. No indoctrination. Just crappy endings planned long ago as proven by the script. There can't be any straw left in the world that isn't already in your hands.

Then it's a coping thread. Or maybe not. It's something with far more substance than the endings we were given and we'll take that either way.

And Capeo just pwned Auresta

[xDarkspace]

AnnaExMachina wrote...

panamakira wrote...

Man this is in game Inception.

Mass Inception

Mass extinction as the ending are right now lol

[BiNGEaNiNjA]

JFedora wrote...

BiNGEaNiNjA wrote...

crimsontotem wrote...

BiNGEaNiNjA wrote...

 I find one flaw with indoctrination as a cause for the endings, and I hope (as I'm sure most fans would) that I am wrong.  There are two characters in the game which can sense indoctrination.  The Prothean VI and Javik have contact with Shepard and neither of them sense indoctrination.  I seriously doubt indoctrination leaves a weak impression on the mind.  Javik is able to sense the maturing of a Krogan, the altered genes of a test tube baby, and a number of other insane observations from remnant dead organic material.  Again I hope this is just an oversight in storytelling because I want a better ending too.

one of our main point is that he is being indoctrinated after he got blasted by the Harbinger

Most of the theories point to earlier contact opening the door for indoctrination, but I also remember TIM's research into indoctrination teaching us that adrenaline makes subjects more vulnerable to the indoctrination.  My point against indoctrination would be that Javik would have sensed something earlier in Shepard even if he was a "little" indoctrinated.  The effect was always shown to be a progressive type of mind control, but the signs were obvious and when the mind started to subvert people were subtly rewritten.  Remember the derelict reaper?  Two people remembered having the same wife?  That's not some minor change.  Given Javik's description of the Prothean's abilities he would have picked up something like that.

This doesn't mean Shepard was not fighting against his own doubts, PTSD, and blood loss in the end which caused a hallucination 

Javik admits that the Protheans didn't fully understand indoctrination - the whole reason his base feel was because of indoctrinated sleeper agents. If an entire military base with thousands of protheans being kept under tight security was infiltrated by indoctrination, is it really so unbelievable that Shepard, only in the early stages of indoctrination and still fighting it off, managed to be undetected as well?

The idea you present is definitely believeable.  I offer that the Javik and the VI could detect other indoctrinated persons.  This much makes it a serious ****** twister of a twist ending if Shepard was being indoctrinated this whole time @_@

[UKillMeLongTime]

nevar00 wrote...

I also thought the ending was crap, but I think some people have gone overboard with this, especially since (I think) most signs point to this not being over. Give them a week or so: Bioware pretty clearly has some sort of grand and different plan out there to actually finish the game, and they obviously are trying not to destroy the surprise completely yet.

Now if we wait a bit and there's still no DLC ending or if we have to pay for it, then by all means go crazy: I will too. But right now I think this will only discourage designers from trying more unique approaches to DLC and games in the future.

right now i think its an intermission until we get the real conclusion
again it looks like a setup, genious even but IF its just crap throwing in the towel they can take 2 to 4 months and get another goty award and make $$. For one thing new games come and the hardest thing these days said Cliffy is trade ins/used games. Ya do not want your game sold used or bought used. 

[panamakira]

AnnaExMachina wrote...

panamakira wrote...

Man this is in game Inception.

Mass Inception. Massception?

Aha! DLC title coming our way.

[AnnaExMachina]

BeardedPuma wrote...

Auresta wrote...

Capeo wrote...

This thread is still going? The relentless reachers. There is nothing more to the end than what is shown. No hallucinations. No indoctrination. Just crappy endings planned long ago as proven by the script. There can't be any straw left in the world that isn't already in your hands.

Then it's a coping thread. Or maybe not. It's something with far more substance than the endings we were given and we'll take that either way.

And Capeo just pwned Auresta

You can't "pwn" Auresta.

[krobinson_3232]

Capeo wrote...

This thread is still going? The relentless reachers. There is nothing more to the end than what is shown. No hallucinations. No indoctrination. Just crappy endings planned long ago as proven by the script. There can't be any straw left in the world that isn't already in your hands.

 

[kyban]

more views and more posts here IMO

[Little Lummo]

Jessica Merizan gives a lot more away in tweets than any of the others at least!

[GTANJ]

Wow. I can't believe people are bringing the CE boxart into this. You don't think it's just artwork? No. It's obviously tied into the hallucination theory. Right. -facepalm-

[krobinson_3232]

the only thing about the CE picture that isn't convincing to me is that the background city looks a lot more like Vancouver than it does London

[JediNg]

Little Lummo wrote...

Jessica Merizan gives a lot more away in tweets than any of the others at least!

I'm not convinced she knows more than she's letting on.  Don't get carried away lol.

[AnnaExMachina]

panamakira wrote...

AnnaExMachina wrote...

panamakira wrote...

Man this is in game Inception.

Mass Inception. Massception?

Aha! DLC title coming our way.

That one's for free Bioware.

[noobcannon]

why would joker leave at the end of me3 when shepard had to drag him off the ship at the beginning of me2? i have a feeling joker would die before flying away, let alone the whole crew.

Modifié par noobcannon, 14 mars 2012 - 05:52 .