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Was the ending a hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory


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Auresta

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AnnaExMachina wrote...

BeardedPuma wrote...

Auresta wrote...

Capeo wrote...

This thread is still going? The relentless reachers. There is nothing more to the end than what is shown. No hallucinations. No indoctrination. Just crappy endings planned long ago as proven by the script. There can't be any straw left in the world that isn't already in your hands.


Then it's a coping thread. Or maybe not. It's something with far more substance than the endings we were given and we'll take that either way.


And Capeo just pwned Auresta :P


You can't "pwn" Auresta.


You can certainly "pwn" me but you can't do that to everyone else. I'll gladly take the hit :). And I don't speak for everyone else, at the very least.

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Dr_Hello

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seitani wrote...

Little offtopic but im now on my second playthrough and because war assets and everything matters so little in the end that i just don't give a f.... So now im trying to mess up as much as i can, say and do the all the wrong things. Kinda gives new twists to the plot :devil:


You need enough Effective Military Strength to get the 'Destroy Reapers' ending whereby Shepard lives / wakes up in the rubble. That save file will possibly play an important role in the next DLC.

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JediNg wrote...

Little Lummo wrote...

Jessica Merizan gives a lot more away in tweets than any of the others at least! :)


I'm not convinced she knows more than she's letting on.  Don't get carried away lol.


I'm not lol, but its nice somebody talks with us about it. 

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Rifneno wrote...

I know the subject of the eyes has been brought up a lot.  But I've talked to quite a few people who don't see it, or don't think they're really what we think they are.  So I got some screenshots and when necessary magnified them so you can see them better.

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That's the Illusive Man's eye in ME2. Note the pattern: an inner circle, an outer circle, and two orb shapes on the bottom left and right.

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This is Saren's eye in ME1 right before he ragequits existence. It's different, but similar in a way. A large glowing center, an inner ring, a much smaller outer ring, and some wavy designs coming out of them.

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This is Shepard's eye right after his face turned black in the control ending. This is the exact same pattern as the Illusive Man's. The only difference is the color. Which is similar to Saren's. I'll also note that the rest of the scene he seemed to be in immense pain as he's gripping the handles. After he turns like this, he simply looks deadpan and emotionless.

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This is Shepard's eye during the synthesis ending. He's further from the camera and a lot of the time it's distorted by the green pulses, but this is still a clear enough shot to tell, without a doubt, that he has the same eyes here as in control.

Hopefully this helps convince someone that doesn't believe the eye evidence, which I personally consider to be the strongest evidence of the indoctrination theory.


Just think more should see this, it's buried around page 383 HERE, should add to OP

Modifié par kent80082006, 14 mars 2012 - 05:56 .


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nranola

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panamakira wrote...

AnnaExMachina wrote...

panamakira wrote...

Man this is in game Inception.


Mass Inception. Massception?


Aha! DLC title coming our way.

That, or Joker Jungle Adventures. :P

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JediNg

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Little Lummo wrote...

JediNg wrote...

Little Lummo wrote...

Jessica Merizan gives a lot more away in tweets than any of the others at least! :)


I'm not convinced she knows more than she's letting on.  Don't get carried away lol.


I'm not lol, but its nice somebody talks with us about it. 


Hah, fair enough.

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JediNg

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nranola wrote...

panamakira wrote...

AnnaExMachina wrote...

panamakira wrote...

Man this is in game Inception.


Mass Inception. Massception?


Aha! DLC title coming our way.

That, or Joker Jungle Adventures. :P


/blasto noooooooooooooooooo

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panamakira

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AnnaExMachina wrote...

panamakira wrote...

AnnaExMachina wrote...

panamakira wrote...

Man this is in game Inception.


Mass Inception. Massception?


Aha! DLC title coming our way.


That one's for free Bioware. :D


They win the internet and become the biggest trolls in video game history. :wizard:

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theratking

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Capeo wrote...

This thread is still going? The relentless reachers. There is nothing more to the end than what is shown. No hallucinations. No indoctrination. Just crappy endings planned long ago as proven by the script. There can't be any straw left in the world that isn't already in your hands.


I dont think you understand the way people interpret art

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krobinson_3232

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Mike ‏ @Mikey2334 · Open
@JessicaMerizan Well, i think i'll stop naggin you and trying to get you to talk about the indoctrination theory. :( Good game though!
Jessica Merizan ‏ @JessicaMerizan Close
@Mikey2334 I want people to make up their own minds right now, then when more people have played we'll talk :)

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UKillMeLongTime

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everyone had at least 1 party member exit the normandy on the planet yet how are they in two places at once totally unharmed

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JediNg wrote...

Little Lummo wrote...

Jessica Merizan gives a lot more away in tweets than any of the others at least! :)


I'm not convinced she knows more than she's letting on.  Don't get carried away lol.


Ha ha I see what you did there.

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GreatBandit

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My convo with jessica.

@JessicaMerizan Well, i think i'll stop naggin you and trying to get you to talk about the indoctrination theory. :( Good game though!
Jessica Merizan ‏ @JessicaMerizan Close
@Mikey2334 I want people to make up their own minds right now, then when more people have played we'll talk :)

#10264
JediNg

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Beanreaper wrote...

JediNg wrote...

Little Lummo wrote...

Jessica Merizan gives a lot more away in tweets than any of the others at least! :)


I'm not convinced she knows more than she's letting on.  Don't get carried away lol.


Ha ha I see what you did there.


If I did something it must have been unintentional O_o
What is it?

#10265
AnnaExMachina

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panamakira wrote...

AnnaExMachina wrote...

panamakira wrote...

AnnaExMachina wrote...

panamakira wrote...

Man this is in game Inception.


Mass Inception. Massception?


Aha! DLC title coming our way.


That one's for free Bioware. :D


They win the internet and become the biggest trolls in video game history. :wizard:


If the theory is correct, they've already won everything. EVERYTHING!

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GreatBandit

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krobinson_3232 wrote...

Mike ‏ @Mikey2334 · Open
@JessicaMerizan Well, i think i'll stop naggin you and trying to get you to talk about the indoctrination theory. :( Good game though!
Jessica Merizan ‏ @JessicaMerizan Close
@Mikey2334 I want people to make up their own minds right now, then when more people have played we'll talk :)


Hey thats me :D 
Sorry off topic i know :P 

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panamakira

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krobinson_3232 wrote...

Mike ‏
@JessicaMerizan Well, i think i'll stop naggin you and trying to get you to talk about the indoctrination theory. :( Good game though!

Jessica Merizan ‏ 
@Mikey2334 I want people to make up their own minds right now, then when more people have played we'll talk :)


Girl that was a direct hit at us. I'm feeling slightly better about this. :devil:

Modifié par panamakira, 14 mars 2012 - 05:59 .


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BlackDragonBane

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If you're looking for a peaceful and neutral place away from the trolls and fan-hate to continuing discussing this topic without getting lost or overshadowed, please PM me. Myself and several theorists have moved over to a new base of operations to continue our discussions with the absence of the ridiculous derailing of other community members.

You do not need to be a supporter of this theory, just a sensible person who understands the merits of thorough discussion and debate without it getting needlessly ugly or insulting.

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JediNg

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BlackDragonBane wrote...

If you're looking for a peaceful and neutral place away from the trolls and fan-hate to continuing discussing this topic without getting lost or overshadowed, please PM me. Myself and several theorists have moved over to a new base of operations to continue our discussions with the absence of the ridiculous derailing of other community members.

You do not need to be a supporter of this theory, just a sensible person who understands the merits of thorough discussion and debate without it getting needlessly ugly or insulting.


Careful you don't let indoctrinated agents in :P

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xDarkspace wrote...

Official theme for real ending.

Breaking Benjamin - I will not bow

Fits perfectly


Also 30 Seconds to Mars- This is War fits nice ^^

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panamakira

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AnnaExMachina wrote...

panamakira wrote...

AnnaExMachina wrote...

panamakira wrote...

AnnaExMachina wrote...

panamakira wrote...

Man this is in game Inception.


Mass Inception. Massception?


Aha! DLC title coming our way.


That one's for free Bioware. :D


They win the internet and become the biggest trolls in video game history. :wizard:


If the theory is correct, they've already won everything. EVERYTHING!


And think about the PRIIIIIZE.....:pinched:

#10272
Gamingtrek12025

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GreatBandit wrote...

krobinson_3232 wrote...

Mike ‏ @Mikey2334 · Open
@JessicaMerizan Well, i think i'll stop naggin you and trying to get you to talk about the indoctrination theory. :( Good game though!
Jessica Merizan ‏ @JessicaMerizan Close
@Mikey2334 I want people to make up their own minds right now, then when more people have played we'll talk :)


Hey thats me :D 
Sorry off topic i know :P 


What she said there and all day long makes me think she may know than what she is letting on. Granted she COULD be trolling people, but i doubt it.


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mabye liaras present has something to do with the ending?

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I'm a bit too tired to look back at the 200+ pages that popped up since I was last here, but has anyone wonder why the slow motion scenes were put in the story at certain times and then at Sanctuary, it was mentioned that adrenaline speeds up indoctrination. And I remember that the slow motion animation reminded me of Adrenaline Rush in ME2 (haven't played Soldier in ME3 yet).

From what I remember, there were two scenes this happened at: the encounter with Eva (had Reaper tech, I think) and the battle with a Reaper on Rannoch.

Well, back to lurking and probably sleep...

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JediNg

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Gamingtrek12025 wrote...

GreatBandit wrote...

krobinson_3232 wrote...

Mike ‏ @Mikey2334 · Open
@JessicaMerizan Well, i think i'll stop naggin you and trying to get you to talk about the indoctrination theory. :( Good game though!
Jessica Merizan ‏ @JessicaMerizan Close
@Mikey2334 I want people to make up their own minds right now, then when more people have played we'll talk :)


Hey thats me :D 
Sorry off topic i know :P 


What she said there and all day long makes me think she may know than what she is letting on. Granted she COULD be trolling people, but i doubt it.




Err.  That seems more like her not wanting to put spoilers all over her twitter than her actually knowing something we don't.  Don't take off with it lol.