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[blooregard]

blooregard wrote...

hmm I was thinking what are the chances of a human colony being somewhere in the viper nebula? since the relay was destroyed its possible the reapers were unable to reach a colony if there is one

bump for possible stargazer explaination

[Reptilian Rob]

blooregard wrote...

blooregard wrote...

hmm I was thinking what are the chances of a human colony being somewhere in the viper nebula? since the relay was destroyed its possible the reapers were unable to reach a colony if there is one

bump for possible stargazer explaination

The stargazer thing is a load of crap as well, it just affirms that everything was lost and everyone is stranded. I don't see how it plays into the indoctrination theory at all.

Modifié par Reptilian Rob, 14 mars 2012 - 07:46 .

[JediNg]

blooregard wrote...

blooregard wrote...

hmm I was thinking what are the chances of a human colony being somewhere in the viper nebula? since the relay was destroyed its possible the reapers were unable to reach a colony if there is one

bump for possible stargazer explaination

The entire star system was destroyed when the mass relay exploded...

[Rencor2k]

I still belive that its all an illusion and it all starts when u encounter the reaper artifact in Arrival, the harbinger takes control of u already there. i can be very wrong tho, something really stange happens there for sure.

[Aetius5]

Wow @ OP, great post, credit to you and your contributors. Before I finished the game, I did read the title of this thread, so the possibility of the ending being a hallucination was planted in my head. I also spoiled myself on the endings a few days before I even played the game. Anyways, what I'm getting at is that I agree with you for the various reasons you laid out. I finished the game yesterday with my one and only Paragade Shep. I didn't think too much about what I would do about the endings until Shep was standing there on the Citadel. I chose "destroy", because to me, it seemed the lesser of the 3 evils. But yeah, from the point from where Harbinger fired his lazor onto the very end, seemed very off, like a dream. No way Anderson could of made it to the Conduit before Shep and wtf would TIM be doing there if Cerberus and the Reapers are enemies? And then, how could TIM control Shep and Anderson in the first place? Also the explosions don't seem to kill the non synthetics on Earth, so why would the Normandy need to flee the explosion in the first place?

Basically, @OP we may be reaching, but I think you're right. My question is if it is true, then why would Bioware expose themselves to the fan outrage? Is it really worth it to troll us now to only make some $$ on dlc later?

[Auresta]

JediNg wrote...

blooregard wrote...

blooregard wrote...

hmm I was thinking what are the chances of a human colony being somewhere in the viper nebula? since the relay was destroyed its possible the reapers were unable to reach a colony if there is one

bump for possible stargazer explaination

The entire star system was destroyed when the mass relay exploded...

We can't disregard the idea that overloading a mass relay through "space magic" is different from ramming an asteroid into a mass relay.

[blooregard]

JediNg wrote...

blooregard wrote...

blooregard wrote...

hmm I was thinking what are the chances of a human colony being somewhere in the viper nebula? since the relay was destroyed its possible the reapers were unable to reach a colony if there is one

bump for possible stargazer explaination

The entire star system was destroyed when the mass relay exploded...

the star system was destroyed not the cluster there could be a human colony in another star system

[Raxxman]

Rencor2k wrote...

I still belive that its all an illusion and it all starts when u encounter the reaper artifact in Arrival, the harbinger takes control of u already there. i can be very wrong tho, something really stange happens there for sure.

Prothean beacon on Eden Prime. You're stll dreaming.

[JediNg]

Auresta wrote...

JediNg wrote...

blooregard wrote...

blooregard wrote...

hmm I was thinking what are the chances of a human colony being somewhere in the viper nebula? since the relay was destroyed its possible the reapers were unable to reach a colony if there is one

bump for possible stargazer explaination

The entire star system was destroyed when the mass relay exploded...

We can't disregard the idea that overloading a mass relay through "space magic" is different from ramming an asteroid into a mass relay.

I'm not sure how that relates to the Viper Nebula's mass relay being exploded.

[Rencor2k]

Raxxman wrote...

Rencor2k wrote...

I still belive that its all an illusion and it all starts when u encounter the reaper artifact in Arrival, the harbinger takes control of u already there. i can be very wrong tho, something really stange happens there for sure.

Prothean beacon on Eden Prime. You're stll dreaming.

yeah lol, turns out u have been dreaming since me1

[JediNg]

blooregard wrote...

JediNg wrote...

blooregard wrote...

blooregard wrote...

hmm I was thinking what are the chances of a human colony being somewhere in the viper nebula? since the relay was destroyed its possible the reapers were unable to reach a colony if there is one

bump for possible stargazer explaination

The entire star system was destroyed when the mass relay exploded...

the star system was destroyed not the cluster there could be a human colony in another star system

Ah, fair enough.  They'd still only have less than a hundred years before that shock front passes through lol.

[Auresta]

JediNg wrote...

Auresta wrote...

JediNg wrote...

blooregard wrote...

blooregard wrote...

hmm I was thinking what are the chances of a human colony being somewhere in the viper nebula? since the relay was destroyed its possible the reapers were unable to reach a colony if there is one

bump for possible stargazer explaination

The entire star system was destroyed when the mass relay exploded...

We can't disregard the idea that overloading a mass relay through "space magic" is different from ramming an asteroid into a mass relay.

I'm not sure how that relates to the Viper Nebula's mass relay being exploded.

I meant in relation to how the destruction of a mass relay means a star system goes down with it. I wasn't trying to touch on the Viper Nebula's mass relay necessarily, sorry!

[Goikiu]

(OMG .... yesterday i was at page 315, now 418 O_O)

Isn't possible that they have planned all this?
If you read between the lines of the PR comments on twitter of Yesterday (it was like when will we toggle the N7 armor rubble?) it seems that some days from now they will release (probably) a patch where you can regain your mind or so after the first attempt to indoctrinate you (the actual ending).

Or at least is what i hope it's happening

[Chatticus Maximus]

Aetius5 wrote...

Wow @ OP, great post, credit to you and your contributors. Before I finished the game, I did read the title of this thread, so the possibility of the ending being a hallucination was planted in my head. I also spoiled myself on the endings a few days before I even played the game. Anyways, what I'm getting at is that I agree with you for the various reasons you laid out. I finished the game yesterday with my one and only Paragade Shep. I didn't think too much about what I would do about the endings until Shep was standing there on the Citadel. I chose "destroy", because to me, it seemed the lesser of the 3 evils. But yeah, from the point from where Harbinger fired his lazor onto the very end, seemed very off, like a dream. No way Anderson could of made it to the Conduit before Shep and wtf would TIM be doing there if Cerberus and the Reapers are enemies? And then, how could TIM control Shep and Anderson in the first place? Also the explosions don't seem to kill the non synthetics on Earth, so why would the Normandy need to flee the explosion in the first place?

Basically, @OP we may be reaching, but I think you're right. My question is if it is true, then why would Bioware expose themselves to the fan outrage? Is it really worth it to troll us now to only make some $$ on dlc later?

THIS

However, I think, for Bioware, this has actually come out WORSE than they anticipated.  I am now of the firm belief that this 'Indoctrination' theory is what they wanted to come out of the woodwork.  They wanted fan rage, they wanted us to talk and go ZOMG!!!  

Just one itty, bitty little issue for them...

We're not just fans, we're FANATICS, the ones who beat this within a few days, the ones who annihilated our lives for a few days to do this.  What we've been hearing at the start was the sound of all our nerd-angst going NOOOOO!, before we calmed down a little, and began to figure it out. 

They just really, REALLY didn't realise how passionate we all are about this series, I mean seriously, it is this decades version of Star Wars, or Star Trek, for all intents and purposes!

Modifié par Chatticus Maximus, 14 mars 2012 - 07:55 .

[PaulSX]

Althorne wrote...

I hate to burst our bubble, but this seemed pretty conclusive to me. http://www.digitaltr...-controversies/

Don't know if it's been posted.

Based on this, OP's theory is basically negated by him. He did mention " it’s a story that people can talk about after the fact." so the endings are FACTS not Hallucination/Dream/Indoctrination.

[LilyasAvalon]

I know I should I still be devestated about teh endings... but these theories give me hope...

I also love delicious theories. They're just... so much fun!

[Erethrian]

And here goes my hope...

rorako wrote...

http://www.digitaltr...-controversies/

For those that don't want to read the entire interview, I'll copy and paste the question and answer here.

What are your thoughts on the reaction to the game’s endings?
I didn’t want the game to be forgettable, and even right down to the
sort of polarizing reaction that the ends have had with people–debating
what the endings mean and what’s going to happen next, and what
situation are the characters left in. That to me is part of what’s
exciting about this story. There has always been a little bit of mystery
there and a little bit of interpretation, and it’s a story that people
can talk about after the fact.

[Tygur]

suntzuxi wrote...

Althorne wrote...

I hate to burst our bubble, but this seemed pretty conclusive to me. http://www.digitaltr...-controversies/

Don't know if it's been posted.

Based on this, OP's theory is basically negated by him. He did mention " it’s a story that people can talk about after the fact." so the endings are FACTS not Hallucination/Dream/Indoctrination.

Could also be refering to this stunt they are pulling, if that is what it is. Even if they pony up a changed ending somehow, its sure to still be talked about for a long time to come.

[Niemack Saarinen]

Tygur wrote...

suntzuxi wrote...

Althorne wrote...

I hate to burst our bubble, but this seemed pretty conclusive to me. http://www.digitaltr...-controversies/

Don't know if it's been posted.

Based on this, OP's theory is basically negated by him. He did mention " it’s a story that people can talk about after the fact." so the endings are FACTS not Hallucination/Dream/Indoctrination.

Could also be refering to this stunt they are pulling, if that is what it is. Even if they pony up a changed ending somehow, its sure to still be talked about for a long time to come.

Yeah lest we forget about the global "Space Edition" launches.  For sake of PR they are enjoying people talking about it, the more the merrier, more press more news.    So yeah still think its a stunt, the ending(s) are laughably full of inaccuracies.

[J4N3_M3]

I replayed my ending last night and frapsed it. Things I hadn't noticed the first time were the tunnel vision that is there the entire time. The black lines around the field of vision at certain points like when TIM enters, when you shoot Anderson, etc. Destroy Ending incl. Dialogues

PS: Yeah I shot at the child, just wanted to see if anything happens lol.

[Kveki]

Reposting my last post: There are more 1m1s.....Beneath the ones when you are getting to the console,and if u turn back when you get to the citadel's top you can see more of them...They seem to be there on purpouse.

[SomeoneStoleMyName]

 If the indoctrination theory is true, anyone else hoping for a redemption option for the illusive man?
IMO it would be cool if you get renegade option to kill him later, or paragon option to forgive him. Where if you are a vengeful ****** your love interest sacrifice herself for you, but if you choose paragon the illusive man sacrifices himself instead. 
I really love the Illusive mans character and would hope for him to realize how empty and meaningless all his sacrifices and lust for power were. Sure it would be cliche, but this is how I'd hope it turns out.
You end up fighting Harbinger physically, then you have to make your escape because of an incomming explosion were there are someone who needs to operate a blast door. Killing him meaning your LI will sacrifice herself or you die with her, but if the illusive man doing it it would go down like this:

Illusive man: I have this Shepard.
Illusive mans eyes glow (sovereign): Assuming direct control.
Illusive man resists and starts bleeding out his ears and eyes.
Illusive man: Run Shepard.
Shepard: What if you cant...
Illusive man: I can hold SHepard, RUN!
Illusive man eyes glow yellow again (Sovereign): ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL
Shepard: Illusive man?
Illusive man fights off again and looks at shepard: My name is (Reveals real name, to denounce his existence as Illusive man and for the first time in long acknowledge his old self)
Shepard: Despite all you have done... I wont forget this (real name) (Runs inside blast doors)
Sovereign voice spoken by Illusive man: Resistance is futile, think of the power I can grant you. Surrender yourself.
Illusive man: You know, we are the same you and I. Look at our power and our ability to shape things and control the ones around us, what has it given us? Nothing. We are just as empty. I dont hate you, I pity you.

Blast doors close and the Illusive man falls to his knees, eyes glowing.

Illusive man whispers: "I renounce you..." as he falls dead bleeding out his eyes, ears and nose.

The Illusive man was extremely smart, and had good intentions gone bad. I would really like the end for him to be him reuniting with his humanity and resisting his indoctrination.

[Ravax]

@masseffect I love 1,2 and 3. But the ending of 3 managed to ruin what was my 3 favorite games, please fix the ending of 3. Please.
Mass Effect Mass Effect ‏ @masseffect

@denebola43 We appreciate your input. We'll be sure to forward your concerns to our team. Thanks for the feedback!

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Jesus christ... its not even remotely funny anymore, its getting downright stupid and robotic with these answers...

He must have a template:
1. We appreciate your input! Glad to hear you enjoyed the game!
2. Our dev team is aware of the community, appreciate your feedback!

A conversation with 'Cleverbot' has more diversity...........

[devSin]

BringBackNihlus wrote...

Not going to lie; Jessica Merizan is being pretty coy about all of this, and I actually find it hilarious. Hope her remarks are more than words, though.

Didn't she already basically say that she doesn't know?

You may interpret it as "being pretty coy", but I honestly think she's just interacting with the community. She's not dropping hints or trying to dance around specific information; like she said "I'm not a dev."

She doesn't know any more than you what the truth is.