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[yagaelvin]

Erethrian wrote...

Haven't, the hope's here again!

Thanks for the link. I missed some "tweets".


But, now we know this clearly is hallucination, dream or indoctrination (I think it's the last one). So, have we to wait 3 months or something to get our single-player DLC to end the game? I don't believe in the 1M1 theory yet, at least not in the March 15th theory.

No problem.  It's why I've been trying to get someone to compile all of those kind of tweets into one post. If people actually saw what Bioware has been saying lately, they could see that SOMETHING was up.  Now of course that doesn't mean it has to be ending stuff but nevertheless......

Modifié par yagaelvin, 14 mars 2012 - 08:24 .

[Tygur]

To be honest after reading most of this thread for a couple days, I feel like he got knocked out and its more like a dream/hallucination, but since he has been around so much reaper tech and things, it is influencing him. Basically the dream is not caused by indoctrination, just riddled with it. Same as the dreams, he goes to sleep of his own accord but the child and indoctrination-style things play out in his dreams.

Modifié par Tygur, 14 mars 2012 - 08:24 .

[JediNg]

Niemack Saarinen wrote...

Tygur wrote...

suntzuxi wrote...

Althorne wrote...

I hate to burst our bubble, but this seemed pretty conclusive to me. http://www.digitaltr...-controversies/

Don't know if it's been posted.

Based on this, OP's theory is basically negated by him. He did mention " it’s a story that people can talk about after the fact." so the endings are FACTS not Hallucination/Dream/Indoctrination.

Could also be refering to this stunt they are pulling, if that is what it is. Even if they pony up a changed ending somehow, its sure to still be talked about for a long time to come.

Yeah lest we forget about the global "Space Edition" launches.  For sake of PR they are enjoying people talking about it, the more the merrier, more press more news.    So yeah still think its a stunt, the ending(s) are laughably full of inaccuracies.

Yeah.  It's a little odd considering (imo) that the rest of the game was solidly second-to-none up until that point.

[Berkilak]

Lurchibald wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

The thing that currently bugs me the most is that BioWare would never end a game like that. If this was meant to be the final ending of an epic trilogy, they would rather make an half hour epilogue than "kthxbai"

I take it you haven't played DA2? That end was basically "You and your companions went their seperate ways" (no other information given)

Well, DA2 was essentially a giant prologue to a more interesting game. 

[Earthborn_Shepard]

Lurchibald wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

The thing that currently bugs me the most is that BioWare would never end a game like that. If this was meant to be the final ending of an epic trilogy, they would rather make an half hour epilogue than "kthxbai"

I take it you haven't played DA2? That end was basically "You and your companions went their seperate ways" (no other information given)

Yeah ok, but that was not the end of a trilogy, and I always felt like BioWare themselves liked Mass Effect better than Dragon Age

[Niemack Saarinen]

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

The thing that currently bugs me the most is that BioWare would never end a game like that. If this was meant to be the final ending of an epic trilogy, they would rather make an half hour epilogue than "kthxbai"

Pretty much, i mean it seem's to be incoherent as it stands.

Just a fast recap:  all 3 endings - citadel is destroyed (except control) (Millions of people dead on the citadel alone when it blows up -there was traffic moving in the background) , Relays destroyed universally-  All alien fleets are stranded in the SOL sector. Love interest who was with me on earth magically teleports to the normandy which crash lands - Liara stares at Joker and smile's? I doubt it, she'd be distraught and devastated after losing her first bondmate. Theres no way this is the real ending its obviously a halucination\\indoctrination.   If this IS the actual ending? a four year old could've written it better.

Modifié par Niemack Saarinen, 14 mars 2012 - 08:29 .

[yagaelvin]

Lurchibald wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

The thing that currently bugs me the most is that BioWare would never end a game like that. If this was meant to be the final ending of an epic trilogy, they would rather make an half hour epilogue than "kthxbai"

I take it you haven't played DA2? That end was basically "You and your companions went their seperate ways" (no other information given)

I'm still expecting an expansion pack on that front truthfully

[kent80082006]

Well if there's a tweet which makes me believe there's more to the ending, it's THIS ONE.
However I don't expect to hear form BW for at least a month or so.

Cautiously optimistic
Need more assurance? HERE

[yagaelvin]

kent80082006 wrote...

Well if there's a tweet which makes me believe there's more to the ending, it's THIS ONE.
However I don't expect to hear form BW for at least a month or so.

Cautiously optimistic
Need more assurance? HERE

Beat you to that on the last page. The more people notice that the better thought so I don't mind

[tuzem2]

yagaelvin wrote...

Lurchibald wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

The thing that currently bugs me the most is that BioWare would never end a game like that. If this was meant to be the final ending of an epic trilogy, they would rather make an half hour epilogue than "kthxbai"

I take it you haven't played DA2? That end was basically "You and your companions went their seperate ways" (no other information given)

I'm still expecting an expansion pack on that front truthfully

I think the Normandy crash landing is Shepard imagining that his team members and LI are going to be okay. 

[Goikiu]

I'm stuck with some spot about ME3, the spot says "Come and save the Earth"... my question is : .... how? o_0 Either way i will blow up all (specially with x360)

[nranola]

Abram730 wrote...

What is a synthesis of organic and synthetic? A husk
What is merging with reapers? Indoctrination.

This.

With the Synthesis option, especially. A "new framework"? A "new DNA"? Err, isn't that what the Reapers have been doing all along with their harvesting and turning people into Husks?

Thanks, Space God, but no thanks.

[Dessalines]

Erethrian wrote...

yagaelvin wrote...

Erethrian wrote...

And here goes my hope...

rorako wrote...

http://www.digitaltr...-controversies/

For those that don't want to read the entire interview, I'll copy and paste the question and answer here.

What are your thoughts on the reaction to the game’s endings?
I didn’t want the game to be forgettable, and even right down to the
sort of polarizing reaction that the ends have had with people–debating
what the endings mean and what’s going to happen next, and what
situation are the characters left in. That to me is part of what’s
exciting about this story. There has always been a little bit of mystery
there and a little bit of interpretation, and it’s a story that people
can talk about after the fact.

Actually all that he really says is that he wanted the ending to be something we'll talk and argue about for a long time. In that regard, he was right! 

Have you read this thread yet?  Thought it was a little interesting

Haven't, the hope's here again!

Thanks for the link. I missed some "tweets".


But, now we know this clearly is hallucination, dream or indoctrination (I think it's the last one). So, have we to wait 3 months or something to get our single-player DLC to end the game? I don't believe in the 1M1 theory yet, at least not in the March 15th theory.

So basically they wrote a crappy ending that was against what was already written to make the game memorable, or to come up with a direction for DLC ideas?
Since I know what to expect now from Bioware's game, there is no real reason to buy them. We are going to give a really good beginning, and the middle part is going to be amazing, and don't forget the hear breaking moments towards the end. That is going to be great too. Oh, the end? Well, that  is going to be  crappy, but you are going to remember it.
It is not about the crappy ending, it is about the amazing journey.

[J4N3_M3]

I don't know if this here was posted before.

[Ravax]

IGN is pissing me off...

Its not like Kotaku, IGN has pull, and millions of page visits per day...

Modifié par Ravax, 14 mars 2012 - 08:39 .

[Catreina-JTV]

So I am thinking this might be a bit too "conspiracy theory-ish" but I have to point it out - the 1M1 thing

Someone said something about an optics formula that I cannot find any more. However, if we simply take 1M1 and use the information available - that it is mirrored everywhere you see it, and do a little fun stuff.....


M in Decimal (ascii) is 77 - 1771 is the same forwards and backwards
M in OCTAL is 115 - 11151 is obviously not the same, but has an interesting format....

3/51? No, but wait! Look at it backwards (mirrored if you will) and you get 15111 - a little formatting? 15/3 - the Canadian format for March 15th if I am not mistaken.

Yeah, one hell of a stretch, but hell, they have hints EVERYWHERE (Harbinger on a wall hovering over a dead body covered with a blanket with the number 3 on it???)

[LadyofRivendell]

 Just some food for thought, has anyone compared the Indoctrination theory and ME3's ending to Plato's Simile of the Line?

[Earthborn_Shepard]

And to say Gamers aren't intellectual lol

[Hurricane Brad]

I've got one more thing to add:

Shepard has never had to struggle with indoctrination in the series. It seems logical to assume that he would have to at some point considering the role he has taken in opposing the reapers and all the exposure to reapers and reaper artifacts. So when you combine that with the importance that indoctrination has had in the story, it would be quite odd if Shepard never had to overcome it himself. It would be like the Star Wars Trilogy ending without Luke facing and overcoming the temptation of the dark side.

[Abram730]

nranola wrote...

Abram730 wrote...

What is a synthesis of organic and synthetic? A husk
What is merging with reapers? Indoctrination.

This.

With the Synthesis option, especially. A "new framework"? A "new DNA"? Err, isn't that what the Reapers have been doing all along with their harvesting and turning people into Husks?

Thanks, Space God, but no thanks.

Yes flash back to ME2 on the Collector ship

Modifié par Abram730, 14 mars 2012 - 08:55 .

[Martukis]

On another play through, just finished with Sur'kesh. Interesting what Hackett says "We're calling it the crucible, and throwing everyone who can wield a hammer at it"... "You can do this Shepherd, I know you can. Never forget that."

[cheinara2]

Abram730 wrote...

Sl4sh3r wrote...

Abram730 wrote...

Since you need a high battle rediness and to choose destroy ending.. many people will choose other endings..

I think it will be this

cru·ci·ble
2. A severe test, as of patience or belief; a trial.

Matthew 7
1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

It's symbolism here people.. The crucible, The beam in your eye.
It's our fate we choose.. Not the galaxies.

What is a synthesis of organic and synthetic? A husk
What is merging with reapers? Indoctrination.

Shepard as a Boss fight ouch.

This is... Interesting...

Also
United States Marine Corps Recruit Training
"On the final day of the Crucible, recruits are awoken and begin their final march (including "The Reaper" a forced march up a steeply inclined hill to the top of Edson's Ridge on the west coast)."

Haha! I had completely forgotten about The Reaper march and the Crucible! I nearly became a marine, my ASVAB scores were through the roof, but decided I wanted to go through college instead - heard so much about that damned march from my friends, though.

(EDIT): Also, the names make sense, at least with symbolism, for the last bit of the game. Who knows where it fits in though. <_<

Modifié par cheinara2, 14 mars 2012 - 08:52 .

[Astarotte24]

I noticed something reading last few pages and its bugging me. Bioware stated that there wont be push the button ending. And still all 3 endings are push the blue/green/red button. So if bioware many times said that they dont want end it this simple way, that means we can expect more. The teory about indoctrination in this case seems most valid.

I suspect that despite indoctrination outcome what follows will be huge mass scale battle against reapers. And the choices you made during indoctrination will matter to some extend.

Also small fact: The first ending you can get is red still to get extra scene for that ending you need highest ER score ? Anyone else find that wierd ?. Why add some extra scene to only one ending that is supposed to be worst possible ?

[RuffHouse789]

Modifié par RuffHouse789, 14 mars 2012 - 08:52 .

[Earthborn_Shepard]

I just want to bring up a theory.. what if the Crucible plans were actually created by the Reapers? Luring every species into putting all their resources into it, thinking it is a weapon, when actually it could just be a giant indoctrination device?