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[Elscotto1989]

coruptai125 wrote...

JulienJaden wrote...

MDT1 wrote...

RuffHouse789 wrote...

and this seems to fit

http://db.tt/fisTdkrK

Still could be just an "Awesome" Omega dlc or something...
They could believe that by making the game better, people would forget the ending.
The problem is, tha game is already brilliant.

God I hope I'm so wrong...

I don't think they do. At this point, if any devs are following this thread, they know that, after playing coy for so long and hinting like that, they are at risk of further alienating their fans, if they now start announcing 'awesome' DLC that has nothing to do with the ending whatsoever. Everything they actually said pointed towards something big coming and us not knowing everything, so our reactions would be much different if we knew what was in store. I don't think Bioware, of all companies, could be so blind that they'd think the announcement of Mass Effect 4 to clear it all up or a DLC to be released in a couple of months would appease us. They know their fans, or so I hope.

If it really is Omega DLC then I would be incredibly pissed off. Seriously any DLC that would take place before the ending are 100% worthless if the current ending stays. Why bother helping Aria take back Omega when she's just going to die of starvation a few weeks down the line when Omega runs out of food and they have nowhere to go and no natural resources to use.

but doesnt aria say something in 3 about if you get the 3 groups of mercs shes sending them to take back omega but that they would be yours when the time comes?

[coruptai125]

Topsider wrote...

This theory is absolutely ridiculous. I can't believe that people think it's acceptable to ship a game with fake endings, and then release the "real" end via DLC. That would set a very bad precedent... and destroy Bioware's credibility. The game you paid for is incomplete so cough up more cash to finish it, unless you expect it free of charge. Unlkely to say the least. The concept of paying for real endings actually sickens me. 
The only hallucinations happening here are the theorist's own. Denial. Plain and simple.

The ending as it is now sickens me far more.

[noobcannon]

Topsider wrote...

This theory is absolutely ridiculous. I can't believe that people think it's acceptable to ship a game with fake endings, and then release the "real" end via DLC. That would set a very bad precedent... and destroy Bioware's credibility. The game you paid for is incomplete so cough up more cash to finish it, unless you expect it free of charge. Unlkely to say the least. The concept of paying for real endings actually sickens me. 
The only hallucinations happening here are the theorist's own. Denial. Plain and simple.

i think the idea is it would be free. and i'm all for it, as long as they roll it out soon.

[Icinix]

Goikiu wrote...

Icinix wrote...

April eh....aren't they doing the panel in April....thought that was odd they'd announce that before the release...


This could be a nifty little way of making people regret trading in their games too....

Maybe they want you (and us) to thrust them a little more 

hehe..thrust them a little more...

Definitely. So rumours are flocking around about how the next consoles won't play used games etc, they've been trying to find a way to stop losing money on used game sales.

If everygame you play - has the chance of having a totally redifing ending released a few months later - would you hang on to it to give it another whirl?

[JediNg]

Icinix wrote...

JediNg wrote...

Icinix wrote...

April eh....aren't they doing the panel in April....thought that was odd they'd announce that before the release...


This could be a nifty little way of making people regret trading in their games too....

Which would only make those people dislike BioWare more.

I think they're past that - or very much happy to gamble with customers happiness - it could also be why we have an Origin requirement for ME3.

The console version has 6gb larger (I've heard)..so console players may not need to download it....

Either way - if there is another ending on the way - its the biggest / boldest thing any game company has ever done.

Well you're certainly free to believe that upsetting an already upset, previously loyal  fan base will make 'em fans again.

[Chowaniec]

Well, it seems BW wanted to "polarise reaction" with the ending:
http://kotaku.com/58...he-games-ending

And IF there will be any DLC with "true" ending, it's not gonna be free, that for sure. It's EA, remember?

[Smiley556]

Topsider wrote...

This theory is absolutely ridiculous. I can't believe that people think it's acceptable to ship a game with fake endings, and then release the "real" end via DLC. That would set a very bad precedent... and destroy Bioware's credibility. The game you paid for is incomplete so cough up more cash to finish it, unless you expect it free of charge. Unlkely to say the least. The concept of paying for real endings actually sickens me. 
The only hallucinations happening here are the theorist's own. Denial. Plain and simple.

But you think shipping a game with a horrible written ending full of plotholes that makes no sense is perfectly acceptable and would not affect Bioware's credibility? Your statement does absolutely Nothing to discredit this theory, it only states your unhappy about it. Its not untrue just cos you dont like it.

[RuffHouse789]

Topsider wrote...

This theory is absolutely ridiculous. I can't believe that people think it's acceptable to ship a game with fake endings, and then release the "real" end via DLC. That would set a very bad precedent... and destroy Bioware's credibility. The game you paid for is incomplete so cough up more cash to finish it, unless you expect it free of charge. Unlkely to say the least. The concept of paying for real endings actually sickens me. 
The only hallucinations happening here are the theorist's own. Denial. Plain and simple.

Even if you're right (and you very well may be), you gotta hand it to em for inciting some damn interesting discussion.

[noobcannon]

Icinix wrote...

Goikiu wrote...

Icinix wrote...

April eh....aren't they doing the panel in April....thought that was odd they'd announce that before the release...


This could be a nifty little way of making people regret trading in their games too....

Maybe they want you (and us) to thrust them a little more 

hehe..thrust them a little more...

Definitely. So rumours are flocking around about how the next consoles won't play used games etc, they've been trying to find a way to stop losing money on used game sales.

If everygame you play - has the chance of having a totally redifing ending released a few months later - would you hang on to it to give it another whirl?

well if they don't want people selling me3 back they better hurry up and say they're rolling out the ending at a later date.

[Ravax]

ok guys.. its done... sorry to burst the big bubble we have all been holding our hands together in....

http://www.eurogamer...3-ending-furore

[noobcannon]

Smiley556 wrote...

Topsider wrote...

This theory is absolutely ridiculous. I can't believe that people think it's acceptable to ship a game with fake endings, and then release the "real" end via DLC. That would set a very bad precedent... and destroy Bioware's credibility. The game you paid for is incomplete so cough up more cash to finish it, unless you expect it free of charge. Unlkely to say the least. The concept of paying for real endings actually sickens me. 
The only hallucinations happening here are the theorist's own. Denial. Plain and simple.

But you think shipping a game with a horrible written ending full of plotholes that makes no sense is perfectly acceptable and would not affect Bioware's credibility? Your statement does absolutely Nothing to discredit this theory, it only states your unhappy about it. Its not untrue just cos you dont like it.

same thing i was thinking. they don't like it so it must not be true.

Modifié par noobcannon, 14 mars 2012 - 10:10 .

[Icinix]

JediNg wrote...

Icinix wrote...

JediNg wrote...

Icinix wrote...

April eh....aren't they doing the panel in April....thought that was odd they'd announce that before the release...


This could be a nifty little way of making people regret trading in their games too....

Which would only make those people dislike BioWare more.

I think they're past that - or very much happy to gamble with customers happiness - it could also be why we have an Origin requirement for ME3.

The console version has 6gb larger (I've heard)..so console players may not need to download it....

Either way - if there is another ending on the way - its the biggest / boldest thing any game company has ever done.

Well you're certainly free to believe that upsetting an already upset, previously loyal  fan base will make 'em fans again.

Don't believe I gave any indication of my thoughts on how players might feel one way or the other.

[MDT1]

Elscotto1989 wrote...

coruptai125 wrote...

If it really is Omega DLC then I would be incredibly pissed off. Seriously any DLC that would take place before the ending are 100% worthless if the current ending stays. Why bother helping Aria take back Omega when she's just going to die of starvation a few weeks down the line when Omega runs out of food and they have nowhere to go and no natural resources to use.

but doesnt aria say something in 3 about if you get the 3 groups of mercs shes sending them to take back omega but that they would be yours when the time comes?

Well some even clim the Omega was intendet to be part of the game but was cut out because they couldn't do it in time.
There moste likely will be an Omega DLC in the future.

[Gruumi]

Ravax wrote...

ok guys.. its done... sorry to burst the big bubble we have all been holding our hands together in....

http://www.eurogamer...3-ending-furore

That doesn't disprove anything.

[coruptai125]

hehe..thrust them a little more...

Definitely. So rumours are flocking around about how the next consoles won't play used games etc, they've been trying to find a way to stop losing money on used game sales.

If everygame you play - has the chance of having a totally redifing ending released a few months later - would you hang on to it to give it another whirl?

If this was to happen the market would adjust quickly IMO. As in a lot of people would just not play games from companies that would have a history of pulling this. If this kind of thing became regular, then I would stop buying most games.

Modifié par coruptai125, 14 mars 2012 - 10:15 .

[Earthborn_Shepard]

Ravax wrote...

ok guys.. its done... sorry to burst the big bubble we have all been holding our hands together in....

http://www.eurogamer...3-ending-furore

Oh well.. that doesn't sound promising.

[Ravax]

Mass Effect 3 developer BioWare has responded for the first time to fans furious at the game's ending.

Director and executive producer Casey Hudson explained that a "polarising" finale was necessary to get fans talking.

Meanwhile a fan petition to change the game's endings has already raised over $28,000 (about £18,000) for charity.

The Retake Mass Effect fan campaign has been appealing for funds to get the movement taken seriously by BioWare; money which it will then donate to gaming charity Child's Play.

"We would like to dispel the perception that we are angry or entitled," the campaign's mission statement reads. "We simply wish to express our hope that there could be a different direction for a series we have all grown to love."

But Hudson failed to suggest that the trilogy's finale may be changed through a patch or DLC, as Retake Mass Effect campaigners hope.

"I didn't want the game to be forgettable," Hudson told Digital Trends. "Even right down to the sort of polarizing reaction that the ends have had with people - debating what the endings mean and what's going to happen next, and what situation are the characters left in."

"That to me is part of what's exciting about this story. There has always been a little bit of mystery there and a little bit of interpretation, and it's a story that people can talk about after the fact."

More single-player content is coming however, and Hudson said that, like other Mass Effect DLC, fan feedback will help shape its design.

"We have some really great multiplayer content and some really great single-player content coming over the air and their feedback will become part of how we design that," Hudson added.

BioWare also hopes fans are starting to see "common sense" over the controversial day-one DLC pack From Ashes, which includes a major slice of series lore.

"I think a lot of the common sense is prevailing," Hudson said. "Initially, it was spun in a direction that suggested that we had taken the lore out of Mass Effect 3 and were holding it inside the DLC only, which now the people who actually have played Mass Effect 3 and the DLC they know that that's not true. So that fear was set aside and, ultimately, I think people get it now."

[Karait]

Well, one thing this thread achieved is turning me into a believer who finally started his second playthrough full of hope. Man am I gonna be jarateed if it turns out all this was for nothing.

[GreenSoda]

Ravax wrote...

ok guys.. its done... sorry to burst the big bubble we have all been holding our hands together in....

http://www.eurogamer...3-ending-furore

This article contains the exact same information this Kotaku bit has:

http://kotaku.com/58...he-games-ending

...only the author in that one takes Hudson's statements more as an indication that the indoctrination angle is correct and we will be seeing alternative / expanded endings.

[noobcannon]

Ravax wrote...

Mass Effect 3 developer BioWare has responded for the first time to fans furious at the game's ending.

Director and executive producer Casey Hudson explained that a "polarising" finale was necessary to get fans talking.

Meanwhile a fan petition to change the game's endings has already raised over $28,000 (about £18,000) for charity.

The Retake Mass Effect fan campaign has been appealing for funds to get the movement taken seriously by BioWare; money which it will then donate to gaming charity Child's Play.

"We would like to dispel the perception that we are angry or entitled," the campaign's mission statement reads. "We simply wish to express our hope that there could be a different direction for a series we have all grown to love."

But Hudson failed to suggest that the trilogy's finale may be changed through a patch or DLC, as Retake Mass Effect campaigners hope.

"I didn't want the game to be forgettable," Hudson told Digital Trends. "Even right down to the sort of polarizing reaction that the ends have had with people - debating what the endings mean and what's going to happen next, and what situation are the characters left in."

"That to me is part of what's exciting about this story. There has always been a little bit of mystery there and a little bit of interpretation, and it's a story that people can talk about after the fact."

More single-player content is coming however, and Hudson said that, like other Mass Effect DLC, fan feedback will help shape its design.

"We have some really great multiplayer content and some really great single-player content coming over the air and their feedback will become part of how we design that," Hudson added.

BioWare also hopes fans are starting to see "common sense" over the controversial day-one DLC pack From Ashes, which includes a major slice of series lore.

"I think a lot of the common sense is prevailing," Hudson said. "Initially, it was spun in a direction that suggested that we had taken the lore out of Mass Effect 3 and were holding it inside the DLC only, which now the people who actually have played Mass Effect 3 and the DLC they know that that's not true. So that fear was set aside and, ultimately, I think people get it now."

that doesn't disprove anything.... the last paragraph is about the day one dlc.

[MDT1]

Ravax wrote...

ok guys.. its done... sorry to burst the big bubble we have all been holding our hands together in....

http://www.eurogamer...3-ending-furore

This could mean anything.

Bursting the bubble would have been:" This is the ending we intendet and definitly the end of ME3 story arc".

[Icinix]

Ravax wrote...

ok guys.. its done... sorry to burst the big bubble we have all been holding our hands together in....

http://www.eurogamer...3-ending-furore

I actually think Caseys response reinforces a lot of the opinion there is ending DLC on the way.

First, its a total polar opposite of everything he and BioWare said in the leadup to ME3.
Second, he never actually says that its the definitive ending, only that he wanted the endings to engage in debate and get theories going.
..and Third;
"
debating what the endings mean and what's going to happen next, "

'What's' going to happen next. Not 'what might happen next'. Might be nothing - but thats the english language for you.

Modifié par Icinix, 14 mars 2012 - 10:15 .

[Topsider]

Smiley556 wrote...

Topsider wrote...

This theory is absolutely ridiculous. I can't believe that people think it's acceptable to ship a game with fake endings, and then release the "real" end via DLC. That would set a very bad precedent... and destroy Bioware's credibility. The game you paid for is incomplete so cough up more cash to finish it, unless you expect it free of charge. Unlkely to say the least. The concept of paying for real endings actually sickens me. 
The only hallucinations happening here are the theorist's own. Denial. Plain and simple.

But you think shipping a game with a horrible written ending full of plotholes that makes no sense is perfectly acceptable and would not affect Bioware's credibility? Your statement does absolutely Nothing to discredit this theory, it only states your unhappy about it. Its not untrue just cos you dont like it.

I'm discrediting the concept of releasing a game with fake endings and using DLC to fix that mess. If you have to pay for it that's even worse. We paid for a complete game, right? Oh, but you need to buy DLC later or it doesn't make sense? That would be outright lying and misrepresenting your product.

[Thermorium]

GreenSoda wrote...

Ravax wrote...

ok guys.. its done... sorry to burst the big bubble we have all been holding our hands together in....

http://www.eurogamer...3-ending-furore

This article contains the exact same information this Kotaku bit has:

http://kotaku.com/58...he-games-ending

...only the author in that one takes Hudson's statements more as an indication that the indoctrination angle is correct and we will be seeing alternative / expanded endings.

It all depends on how you look at it, and how your interpret the quotes.

[TomY90]

Aesthyr wrote...

Ravax wrote...

ok guys.. its done... sorry to burst the big bubble we have all been holding our hands together in....

http://www.eurogamer...3-ending-furore

That doesn't disprove anything.

all what it confirms that they planned on having an ending that wanted people to discuss the endings for time to come. Which is annoying because in doing so they made a RUBBISH ending in trying to achieve that.

and I have not seen anyone discussing who is going to be in ME4 only trying to defend the ending or trying to make sense of it.

and no offence Casey but its not good writing if you have to force the gamer/reader you name it to try to fill in the huge blanks and try to make sense of the ending eventhough it is not clear in any shape or form.