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[Abram730]

Eyjh wrote...

If this really was the plan, Bioware employees must be laughing their arses off right now... I imagine it must be quite fun to watch the rage. At the same time, the reaction it generated is probably completely unexpected, but hey, at least something good came out of all of this (Child Play).

I can see it now
Remember all that crap you gave us about DA2?.... well You just got punked lmao

What makes it more funny is that any mass effect fan should remember the "real" synthesis ending in ME3.

www.youtube.com/watch


The Mass Effect 3 ending  will go down in Video game history... Best Mind-(F-word) ever.

Modifié par Abram730, 14 mars 2012 - 10:52 .

[windermeer]

Gamingtrek12025 wrote...

Icinix wrote...

Goikiu wrote...
I'm an Xbox user, so i'll explain some of the "6GB" more large.
1) Probably some other language are in that
2) When you use / install a game on your hdd (if you've got one)  you copy the entire DVD so the game basycs like graphics or the Engine will be in either DVD because if you don't have an HD on your xbox you need to load data from the disc.

Still doesn't explain it. From what I read even disc purcahses on PC are still 6gb smaller (they install everything of both DVD's).

Actually - do you know how much space your install is? I'll check mine.

Well this way they could just release a patch for the 360 unlocking it and not have to go through microsoft and their fee's for DLC and since the PC version is running Origin(no matter where you buy it) they could just have you download it free of charge to them. This also removes the ability to data mine the files on PC.

Another possibility could be a simpler one: compression. How about using a higher compression (for textures and so on) on the PC version cause they a often more powerful than consoles?

[Elscotto1989]

Dessalines wrote...

Dessalines wrote...

Elscotto1989 wrote...

Gamingtrek12025 wrote...

Someone asked about the interview for not having an ABC ending?

http://www.oxm.co.uk...-sophisticated/

"This story arc is coming to an end with this game. That means the endings can be a lot more different. At this point we're taking into account so many decisions that you've made as a player and reflecting a lot of that stuff. It's not even in any way like the traditional game endings, where you can say how many endings there are or whether you got ending A, B, or C.

It's more like there are some really obvious things that are different and then lots and lots of smaller things, lots of things about who lives and who dies, civilizations that rose and fell, all the way down to individual characters. That becomes the state of where you left your galaxy. The endings have a lot more sophistication and variety in them."

all the sophistication of a krogan at a tea party...

Is it possible that we miss something when we played through it. Lol, like there really is a secret ending like the guide said. It is not that Shep lives, because that is mention in the guide. Someone stated that they got the stargazer inro without importing Shep, but I would never call that a secret ending  Lol, I mean after the second playthrough, instead of getting the Crucible has been destroyed message when you let time run out, you get you have beating  indoc message, and the only cutscene ending  is you gasping for air in the rubble,  then the credits. .I mean could we have missed something else that triggers that "Shepard breathing" scene

no because the guide never mentions the stargazer ending, which if you imported then you got the achiev for 2 playthroughes or for importing on the first playthrough, thus you see the stargazer thing on the first playthrough as a non importing player would only see it after beating the game twice...

[Goikiu]

Icinix wrote...

Goikiu wrote...
I'm an Xbox user, so i'll explain some of the "6GB" more large.
1) Probably some other language are in that
2) When you use / install a game on your hdd (if you've got one)  you copy the entire DVD so the game basycs like graphics or the Engine will be in either DVD because if you don't have an HD on your xbox you need to load data from the disc.

Still doesn't explain it. From what I read even disc purcahses on PC are still 6gb smaller (they install everything of both DVD's).

Actually - do you know how much space your install is? I'll check mine.

I'm not at home right now, i've checked it yesterday.
800 MB (or 900) for the DLC included in my collector edition.
it was 6.8GB or 7GB each DvD 

Mass Effect 1 DVD was a lot smaller
Mass Effect 2 DVD both are smaller
I've installed all the ME DVD on my HDD.

I can re-check it later (1 hour from now) 

[Gamingtrek12025]

Elscotto1989 wrote...

Dessalines wrote...

Dessalines wrote...

Elscotto1989 wrote...

Gamingtrek12025 wrote...

Someone asked about the interview for not having an ABC ending?

http://www.oxm.co.uk...-sophisticated/

"This story arc is coming to an end with this game. That means the endings can be a lot more different. At this point we're taking into account so many decisions that you've made as a player and reflecting a lot of that stuff. It's not even in any way like the traditional game endings, where you can say how many endings there are or whether you got ending A, B, or C.

It's more like there are some really obvious things that are different and then lots and lots of smaller things, lots of things about who lives and who dies, civilizations that rose and fell, all the way down to individual characters. That becomes the state of where you left your galaxy. The endings have a lot more sophistication and variety in them."

all the sophistication of a krogan at a tea party...

Is it possible that we miss something when we played through it. Lol, like there really is a secret ending like the guide said. It is not that Shep lives, because that is mention in the guide. Someone stated that they got the stargazer inro without importing Shep, but I would never call that a secret ending  Lol, I mean after the second playthrough, instead of getting the Crucible has been destroyed message when you let time run out, you get you have beating  indoc message, and the only cutscene ending  is you gasping for air in the rubble,  then the credits. .I mean could we have missed something else that triggers that "Shepard breathing" scene

no because the guide never mentions the stargazer ending, which if you imported then you got the achiev for 2 playthroughes or for importing on the first playthrough, thus you see the stargazer thing on the first playthrough as a non importing player would only see it after beating the game twice...

Are you talking about after the credits you see the stargazer talking to the grandchild and wanting another story of "the Shepard"? I lost my old mass effect files (changed 360's) so i had to choose default shepard and i got that stargazer part for each of the decisions and shepard breathing for the destruction ending.

[Selvec_Darkon]

I believe your all overthinking things. Sheperds story is just that, a story, in the Mass Effect universe. All the questions where never going to be answered. Bioware made it clear during ME2 that Sheperds story is intended to be a trilogy, and that while it may be the end of Sheperds story, for which is due time to since there is nothing left for him to do really, it won't be the last game in the ME universe, not by a long shot. They always intended to create more games.

So my opinion is your all getting up in arms about something that was always pre-determined. If you remember correctly, your game could have ended at ME2. Thats what this is. The DLC they will produce will likely reflect different things for people who chose different endings. See, this series has always been about choice, right down to the endings. In each game, you could choose how things happened. You could choose if you lived or died. While I highly doubt Bioware will continue with the commanders story on the basis that he killed all the AI, I do think the DLC released for ME3 will probably be in line with that ending.

But think of it like this. No matter the ending, its only a story, which Bioware has made clear in the ending cutscene. The story, can always go on, as another story about the commander.

Modifié par Selvec_Darkon, 14 mars 2012 - 10:49 .

[Dessalines]

Elscotto1989 wrote...

Dessalines wrote...

Dessalines wrote...

Elscotto1989 wrote...

Gamingtrek12025 wrote...

Someone asked about the interview for not having an ABC ending?

http://www.oxm.co.uk...-sophisticated/

"This story arc is coming to an end with this game. That means the endings can be a lot more different. At this point we're taking into account so many decisions that you've made as a player and reflecting a lot of that stuff. It's not even in any way like the traditional game endings, where you can say how many endings there are or whether you got ending A, B, or C.

It's more like there are some really obvious things that are different and then lots and lots of smaller things, lots of things about who lives and who dies, civilizations that rose and fell, all the way down to individual characters. That becomes the state of where you left your galaxy. The endings have a lot more sophistication and variety in them."

all the sophistication of a krogan at a tea party...

Is it possible that we miss something when we played through it. Lol, like there really is a secret ending like the guide said. It is not that Shep lives, because that is mention in the guide. Someone stated that they got the stargazer inro without importing Shep, but I would never call that a secret ending  Lol, I mean after the second playthrough, instead of getting the Crucible has been destroyed message when you let time run out, you get you have beating  indoc message, and the only cutscene ending  is you gasping for air in the rubble,  then the credits. .I mean could we have missed something else that triggers that "Shepard breathing" scene

no because the guide never mentions the stargazer ending, which if you imported then you got the achiev for 2 playthroughes or for importing on the first playthrough, thus you see the stargazer thing on the first playthrough as a non importing player would only see it after beating the game twice...

I remember on another board someone stated that they got that scene without importing a Shep. Lol, the person might have been lying.  I mean someone mention there was going to be a game where you play as Aria, and that wasn't even a good lie.

[windermeer]

Elscotto1989 wrote...

Dessalines wrote...

Dessalines wrote...

Elscotto1989 wrote...

Gamingtrek12025 wrote...

Someone asked about the interview for not having an ABC ending?

http://www.oxm.co.uk...-sophisticated/

"This story arc is coming to an end with this game. That means the endings can be a lot more different. At this point we're taking into account so many decisions that you've made as a player and reflecting a lot of that stuff. It's not even in any way like the traditional game endings, where you can say how many endings there are or whether you got ending A, B, or C.

It's more like there are some really obvious things that are different and then lots and lots of smaller things, lots of things about who lives and who dies, civilizations that rose and fell, all the way down to individual characters. That becomes the state of where you left your galaxy. The endings have a lot more sophistication and variety in them."

all the sophistication of a krogan at a tea party...

Is it possible that we miss something when we played through it. Lol, like there really is a secret ending like the guide said. It is not that Shep lives, because that is mention in the guide. Someone stated that they got the stargazer inro without importing Shep, but I would never call that a secret ending  Lol, I mean after the second playthrough, instead of getting the Crucible has been destroyed message when you let time run out, you get you have beating  indoc message, and the only cutscene ending  is you gasping for air in the rubble,  then the credits. .I mean could we have missed something else that triggers that "Shepard breathing" scene

no because the guide never mentions the stargazer ending, which if you imported then you got the achiev for 2 playthroughes or for importing on the first playthrough, thus you see the stargazer thing on the first playthrough as a non importing player would only see it after beating the game twice...

stargazer ending is the one with the man and the child? got that in the first playthrough without importing.

[Selvec_Darkon]

Abram730 wrote...

Eyjh wrote...

If this really was the plan, Bioware employees must be laughing their arses off right now... I imagine it must be quite fun to watch the rage. At the same time, the reaction it generated is probably completely unexpected, but hey, at least something good came out of all of this (Child Play).

I can see it now
Remember all that crap you gave us about DA2?.... well You just got punked lmao

What makes it more funny is that any mass effect fan should remember the "real" synthesis ending.

www.youtube.com/watch

Actually, the exact similarity between Saren's death via Paragon Persuasion and TIM's death is uncanny...
Let the theories commence?

[EX CALIBUR45]

Have some more ideas about the whole Indoctrination theory.

1. Why was the Normandy apparently "running away" maybe it was heading for the battle and Shepard was actually hallucinating/indoctrination process before even landing on Earth this could be the proof because at the end of the game some of the squad members you took on the last mission were still aboard.

2. The end with the stargazer and child, the Reapers were trying to eradicate everyone no matter what they spent years making sure it was so, before leaving and where is it supposed to be? On the planet Joker and the crew landed on; if that were the case it would more likely be the Asari talking at that point.

One: Asari live longer than most races apart from Krogan who have the same life span.

Two: When they mate the only offspring is Asari no matter what race they mate with.

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Just some ideas I'm throwing out.

Another thing why would the Catalyst be the child that Shepard saw
die at the start; more likely than not it would be a ball of light
or an old person, maybe even a Reaper, not a child that's to try and get Shepard's attention
and complete the finishing touches to take control of his body, After all what better person to control the Reapers armies than the one who has spent the years trying to kill them.

[Elscotto1989]

windermeer wrote...

Elscotto1989 wrote...

Dessalines wrote...

Dessalines wrote...

Elscotto1989 wrote...

Gamingtrek12025 wrote...

Someone asked about the interview for not having an ABC ending?

http://www.oxm.co.uk...-sophisticated/

"This story arc is coming to an end with this game. That means the endings can be a lot more different. At this point we're taking into account so many decisions that you've made as a player and reflecting a lot of that stuff. It's not even in any way like the traditional game endings, where you can say how many endings there are or whether you got ending A, B, or C.

It's more like there are some really obvious things that are different and then lots and lots of smaller things, lots of things about who lives and who dies, civilizations that rose and fell, all the way down to individual characters. That becomes the state of where you left your galaxy. The endings have a lot more sophistication and variety in them."

all the sophistication of a krogan at a tea party...

Is it possible that we miss something when we played through it. Lol, like there really is a secret ending like the guide said. It is not that Shep lives, because that is mention in the guide. Someone stated that they got the stargazer inro without importing Shep, but I would never call that a secret ending  Lol, I mean after the second playthrough, instead of getting the Crucible has been destroyed message when you let time run out, you get you have beating  indoc message, and the only cutscene ending  is you gasping for air in the rubble,  then the credits. .I mean could we have missed something else that triggers that "Shepard breathing" scene

no because the guide never mentions the stargazer ending, which if you imported then you got the achiev for 2 playthroughes or for importing on the first playthrough, thus you see the stargazer thing on the first playthrough as a non importing player would only see it after beating the game twice...

stargazer ending is the one with the man and the child? got that in the first playthrough without importing.

if that is the case then 1. the guide was poorly edited, or 2. everything we all know involving achievments and imports is a lie. lol

[Dessalines]

Gamingtrek12025 wrote...

Elscotto1989 wrote...

Dessalines wrote...

Dessalines wrote...

Elscotto1989 wrote...

Gamingtrek12025 wrote...

Someone asked about the interview for not having an ABC ending?

http://www.oxm.co.uk...-sophisticated/

"This story arc is coming to an end with this game. That means the endings can be a lot more different. At this point we're taking into account so many decisions that you've made as a player and reflecting a lot of that stuff. It's not even in any way like the traditional game endings, where you can say how many endings there are or whether you got ending A, B, or C.

It's more like there are some really obvious things that are different and then lots and lots of smaller things, lots of things about who lives and who dies, civilizations that rose and fell, all the way down to individual characters. That becomes the state of where you left your galaxy. The endings have a lot more sophistication and variety in them."

all the sophistication of a krogan at a tea party...

Is it possible that we miss something when we played through it. Lol, like there really is a secret ending like the guide said. It is not that Shep lives, because that is mention in the guide. Someone stated that they got the stargazer inro without importing Shep, but I would never call that a secret ending  Lol, I mean after the second playthrough, instead of getting the Crucible has been destroyed message when you let time run out, you get you have beating  indoc message, and the only cutscene ending  is you gasping for air in the rubble,  then the credits. .I mean could we have missed something else that triggers that "Shepard breathing" scene

no because the guide never mentions the stargazer ending, which if you imported then you got the achiev for 2 playthroughes or for importing on the first playthrough, thus you see the stargazer thing on the first playthrough as a non importing player would only see it after beating the game twice...

Are you talking about after the credits you see the stargazer talking to the grandchild and wanting another story of "the Shepard"? I lost my old mass effect files (changed 360's) so i had to choose default shepard and i got that stargazer part for each of the decisions and shepard breathing for the destruction ending.

See. I saw someone mention that too. I mean I think Bioware should be able to answer if the stargazer scene the secret ending?  Honestly, that is kinda weird to play a game all the way through just to hear Buzz Aldrin talking, No, offense, Mr. Aldrin. You are an American hero, but I still would not call that a secret ending. I wondering did we miss something that triggers the Shepard breathing thing.

[DarkPhoenixAsh]

Alright, I read the OP and the last 10 or so pages of responses. I would love to read everything on this thread, but I just don't have the time.

Assuming we follow the indoctrination theory...

When Shepard was killed in the beginning of Mass Effect 2 and was rebuilt by TIM - do you think it's possible that he used Reaper tech to rebuild Shepard? If that's the case, it could explain why Shepard was able to convince ME2 squad mates to join up for the Suicide Mission without too much of a hassle. Would also apply during ME3 too (thinking about Hackett's dialogue right here).

During one of the conversations TIM had with Kai Leng, he said Shepard was just a tool. Shortly after TIM indoctrinated himself or at least tried to taint himself with Reaper tech. So with Shepard and Sanctuary casualties under his belt...

It's a stab in the dark. Please don't flame me if this was mentioned before. :X

[xDarkspace]

This thread is just re-cycled bull**** and full of hates now.

[Goikiu]

DarkPhoenixAsh wrote...

Alright, I read the OP and the last 10 or so pages of responses. I would love to read everything on this thread, but I just don't have the time.

Assuming we follow the indoctrination theory...

When Shepard was killed in the beginning of Mass Effect 2 and was rebuilt by TIM - do you think it's possible that he used Reaper tech to rebuild Shepard? If that's the case, it could explain why Shepard was able to convince ME2 squad mates to join up for the Suicide Mission without too much of a hassle. Would also apply during ME3 too (thinking about Hackett's dialogue right here).

During one of the conversations TIM had with Kai Leng, he said Shepard was just a tool. Shortly after TIM indoctrinated himself or at least tried to taint himself with Reaper tech. So with Shepard and Sanctuary casualties under his belt...

It's a stab in the dark. Please don't flame me if this was mentioned before. :X

Is it possible.... but what about who have make a new charachter for ME3? 

[Elscotto1989]

xDarkspace wrote...

This thread is just re-cycled bull**** and full of hates now.

i didnt know pots or kettles exsisted in the mass efect universe but apparently they can still call each other black.

[coruptai125]

Gamingtrek12025 wrote...

Icinix wrote...

Goikiu wrote...
I'm an Xbox user, so i'll explain some of the "6GB" more large.
1) Probably some other language are in that
2) When you use / install a game on your hdd (if you've got one)  you copy the entire DVD so the game basycs like graphics or the Engine will be in either DVD because if you don't have an HD on your xbox you need to load data from the disc.

Still doesn't explain it. From what I read even disc purcahses on PC are still 6gb smaller (they install everything of both DVD's).

Actually - do you know how much space your install is? I'll check mine.

Well this way they could just release a patch for the 360 unlocking it and not have to go through microsoft and their fee's for DLC and since the PC version is running Origin(no matter where you buy it) they could just have you download it free of charge to them. This also removes the ability to data mine the files on PC.

Just to be clear the game is 14.6 GB on 360, 14.03 GB on PS3, and 9.8 GB on PC. Take that as you will.

[DarkPhoenixAsh]

Goikiu wrote...

DarkPhoenixAsh wrote...

Alright, I read the OP and the last 10 or so pages of responses. I would love to read everything on this thread, but I just don't have the time.

Assuming we follow the indoctrination theory...

When Shepard was killed in the beginning of Mass Effect 2 and was rebuilt by TIM - do you think it's possible that he used Reaper tech to rebuild Shepard? If that's the case, it could explain why Shepard was able to convince ME2 squad mates to join up for the Suicide Mission without too much of a hassle. Would also apply during ME3 too (thinking about Hackett's dialogue right here).

During one of the conversations TIM had with Kai Leng, he said Shepard was just a tool. Shortly after TIM indoctrinated himself or at least tried to taint himself with Reaper tech. So with Shepard and Sanctuary casualties under his belt...

It's a stab in the dark. Please don't flame me if this was mentioned before. :X

Is it possible.... but what about who have make a new charachter for ME3? 

I've only played an imported character, so I'm not sure how much the story is altered if you load up a new character and start on ME3.  Would that kill that whole train of thought?  (Sorry for my ignorance.)

[hismastersvoice]

DarkPhoenixAsh wrote...

Alright, I read the OP and the last 10 or so pages of responses. I would love to read everything on this thread, but I just don't have the time.

Assuming we follow the indoctrination theory...

When Shepard was killed in the beginning of Mass Effect 2 and was rebuilt by TIM - do you think it's possible that he used Reaper tech to rebuild Shepard? If that's the case, it could explain why Shepard was able to convince ME2 squad mates to join up for the Suicide Mission without too much of a hassle. Would also apply during ME3 too (thinking about Hackett's dialogue right here).

During one of the conversations TIM had with Kai Leng, he said Shepard was just a tool. Shortly after TIM indoctrinated himself or at least tried to taint himself with Reaper tech. So with Shepard and Sanctuary casualties under his belt...

It's a stab in the dark. Please don't flame me if this was mentioned before. :X

The implants TIM used to broadcast the control signal were developed after they rebuild Shepard. So even if Shepard was put together with Reaper tech, I doubt he's actively broadcasting indoctrination signal himself.

[Sheparded]

It looks like M. Night Shyamalan wrote the ending of mass effect 3.

[Elscotto1989]

DarkPhoenixAsh wrote...

Goikiu wrote...

DarkPhoenixAsh wrote...

Alright, I read the OP and the last 10 or so pages of responses. I would love to read everything on this thread, but I just don't have the time.

Assuming we follow the indoctrination theory...

When Shepard was killed in the beginning of Mass Effect 2 and was rebuilt by TIM - do you think it's possible that he used Reaper tech to rebuild Shepard? If that's the case, it could explain why Shepard was able to convince ME2 squad mates to join up for the Suicide Mission without too much of a hassle. Would also apply during ME3 too (thinking about Hackett's dialogue right here).

During one of the conversations TIM had with Kai Leng, he said Shepard was just a tool. Shortly after TIM indoctrinated himself or at least tried to taint himself with Reaper tech. So with Shepard and Sanctuary casualties under his belt...

It's a stab in the dark. Please don't flame me if this was mentioned before. :X

Is it possible.... but what about who have make a new charachter for ME3? 

I've only played an imported character, so I'm not sure how much the story is altered if you load up a new character and start on ME3.  Would that kill that whole train of thought?  (Sorry for my ignorance.)

nah its mentioned that if you dont import that certain events in the past are predetermined for you. so no worries.

[Goikiu]

coruptai125 wrote...

Gamingtrek12025 wrote...

Icinix wrote...

Goikiu wrote...
I'm an Xbox user, so i'll explain some of the "6GB" more large.
1) Probably some other language are in that
2) When you use / install a game on your hdd (if you've got one)  you copy the entire DVD so the game basycs like graphics or the Engine will be in either DVD because if you don't have an HD on your xbox you need to load data from the disc.

Still doesn't explain it. From what I read even disc purcahses on PC are still 6gb smaller (they install everything of both DVD's).

Actually - do you know how much space your install is? I'll check mine.

Well this way they could just release a patch for the 360 unlocking it and not have to go through microsoft and their fee's for DLC and since the PC version is running Origin(no matter where you buy it) they could just have you download it free of charge to them. This also removes the ability to data mine the files on PC.

Just to be clear the game is 14.6 GB on 360, 14.03 GB on PS3, and 9.8 GB on PC. Take that as you will.

Thanks for the clear data 

[Selvec_Darkon]

ME3 endings = DA endings

Its just Dragon Age all over again. I think people forget that in DA you could die in the ending. The Warden might not have actually made it out alive.

And what did they do with DA? They made another story with another character. Thats all that is going to happen to the ME universe. You might get a better ending like they did with Witch Hunt, but it won't be to continue the Commanders story, it will be to put it to rest. Cue big portal mirror and love interest.

Modifié par Selvec_Darkon, 14 mars 2012 - 11:07 .

[Abram730]

Selvec_Darkon wrote...

Abram730 wrote...

Eyjh wrote...

If this really was the plan, Bioware employees must be laughing their arses off right now... I imagine it must be quite fun to watch the rage. At the same time, the reaction it generated is probably completely unexpected, but hey, at least something good came out of all of this (Child Play).

I can see it now
Remember all that crap you gave us about DA2?.... well You just got punked lmao

What makes it more funny is that any mass effect fan should remember the "real" synthesis ending.

www.youtube.com/watch

Actually, the exact similarity between Saren's death via Paragon Persuasion and TIM's death is uncanny...
Let the theories commence?

They clearly wanted to make this as obvious as possible.. hiding in plain sight. They put in every symbolism, reference and clue they could think of.. the explanation was almost word for word what Saren said.... yet nobody got it.

[Icinix]

Goikiu wrote...

coruptai125 wrote...

Gamingtrek12025 wrote...

Icinix wrote...

Goikiu wrote...
I'm an Xbox user, so i'll explain some of the "6GB" more large.
1) Probably some other language are in that
2) When you use / install a game on your hdd (if you've got one)  you copy the entire DVD so the game basycs like graphics or the Engine will be in either DVD because if you don't have an HD on your xbox you need to load data from the disc.

Still doesn't explain it. From what I read even disc purcahses on PC are still 6gb smaller (they install everything of both DVD's).

Actually - do you know how much space your install is? I'll check mine.

Well this way they could just release a patch for the 360 unlocking it and not have to go through microsoft and their fee's for DLC and since the PC version is running Origin(no matter where you buy it) they could just have you download it free of charge to them. This also removes the ability to data mine the files on PC.

Just to be clear the game is 14.6 GB on 360, 14.03 GB on PS3, and 9.8 GB on PC. Take that as you will.

Thanks for the clear data 

My PC install is 11.3gb - but that includes From Ashes as well.

Still - that is a very interesting discrepancy....