Was the ending a hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory
#10726
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 12:07
#10727
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 12:07
kyrieee wrote...
Astarotte24 wrote...
kyrieee wrote...
People in another thread confirmed you get those MSGs at the start of the game.
So, false alarm
If it would be early msg then Ash woudn't call Sheppard Skipper but Commander. It implies its late game/post ending.
No, it's pre-invasion
Shepard is detained
http://social.biowar...index/9901420/7
Oh well, there goes one theory *sadface*
#10728
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 12:07
"That to me is part of what's exciting about this story. There has always been a little bit of mystery there and a little bit of interpretation, and it's a story that people can talk about after the fact."
I think it's over then. No indoctrination, no hallucination. They wanted to ****** people off so they wont forget ME.... Well yeah I'll remember the ending that makes so little sense that it looks more like a dream then reality...but it's not................
#10729
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 12:09
#10730
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 12:11
Modifié par njfluffy19, 14 mars 2012 - 12:12 .
#10731
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 12:11
EliseoRocha wrote...
Well Casey Hudsen just said that the ending was intended to be the way it was. He said," [He] didn't want the game to be forgettable, and even right down to the sort of polarizing reaction that the ends have had with people–debating what the endings mean and what's going to happen next, and what situation are the characters left in." Guess this is all we're going to get...
Read the interview here... http://kotaku.com/58...he-games-ending
Yeah, I posted this earlier. You know that will not be a mystery. Bioware no longer selling a lot of games.
#10732
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 12:12
www.youtube.com/watch
you can hear it right away here,IF TIM is controlling Shepard here than that means he was already undergoing indoctrination on cerberus base which you can listen to here:
www.youtube.com/watch
#10733
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 12:12
Geraro wrote...
Wall of Text
Your post acctually made me feel much better. I personally fell for the "trap" at first, choosing the synthesis, but then, when i read some explanations etc. i chose the "renegade" destroy the synthetics ending. I was sad about the Geth, and EDI... but the kid lied.
He said that choosing this will wipe out all synthetic life - Reapers, Geth's, and, since Shepard is partially syntethic, also me. But then... Shepard catches a breath. Only in that ending. Only, if you were supposedly killing... yourself. Ain't that a trick.
Modifié par Bobrzy, 14 mars 2012 - 12:12 .
#10734
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 12:12
#10735
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 12:12
Harorrd wrote...
he is right, its an experience to wait for a whole year, and when you open up the package containing mass effect 3 you find a turd inside of it. Yes I will remember that my entire life, thanks
Good for you.
#10736
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 12:12
#10737
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 12:15
Abdul_777 wrote...
wow,i wrote yesterday that you hear creepy reversed speech in the background during your chat with the prothean VI in cerberus base,you hear the same when youre talking with TIM in the end so it couldnt be interference from VI being "buggy" after hacked or whatever.
www.youtube.com/watch
you can hear it right away here,IF TIM is controlling Shepard here than that means he was already undergoing indoctrination on cerberus base which you can listen to here:
www.youtube.com/watch
What reverse speech, i can't here anything? Transcript anyone?
#10738
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 12:17
Oh and this
#10739
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 12:18
its subtle,more like whispering,but its definately there in the background,put on headphones if you haveBobrzy wrote...
Abdul_777 wrote...
wow,i wrote yesterday that you hear creepy reversed speech in the background during your chat with the prothean VI in cerberus base,you hear the same when youre talking with TIM in the end so it couldnt be interference from VI being "buggy" after hacked or whatever.
www.youtube.com/watch
you can hear it right away here,IF TIM is controlling Shepard here than that means he was already undergoing indoctrination on cerberus base which you can listen to here:
www.youtube.com/watch
What reverse speech, i can't here anything? Transcript anyone?
#10740
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 12:18
Bobrzy wrote...
Geraro wrote...
Wall of Text
Your post acctually made me feel much better. I personally fell for the "trap" at first, choosing the synthesis, but then, when i read some explanations etc. i chose the "renegade" destroy the synthetics ending. I was sad about the Geth, and EDI... but the kid lied.
He said that choosing this will wipe out all synthetic life - Reapers, Geth's, and, since Shepard is partially syntethic, also me. But then... Shepard catches a breath. Only in that ending. Only, if you were supposedly killing... yourself. Ain't that a trick.
Absolutely! I felt like one of Pavlov's dogs:
:- ring the bell pick paragon, ring the bell pick paragon - over 100 hours of gameplay - ring the bell pick paragon and then the very last choice - ring the bell - BANG.
#10741
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 12:19
Tibiilicious wrote...
kyrieee wrote...
Astarotte24 wrote...
kyrieee wrote...
People in another thread confirmed you get those MSGs at the start of the game.
So, false alarm
If it would be early msg then Ash woudn't call Sheppard Skipper but Commander. It implies its late game/post ending.
No, it's pre-invasion
Shepard is detained
http://social.biowar...index/9901420/7
Oh well, there goes one theory *sadface*
Well if you recall Ash said she didn't want to see Sheppard in detention. So it can't be right. I still think that msg is from Ash post game.
#10742
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 12:20
Second link sounds more like the explosions going on outside.Abdul_777 wrote...
wow,i wrote yesterday that you hear creepy reversed speech in the background during your chat with the prothean VI in cerberus base,you hear the same when youre talking with TIM in the end so it couldnt be interference from VI being "buggy" after hacked or whatever.
www.youtube.com/watch
you can hear it right away here,IF TIM is controlling Shepard here than that means he was already undergoing indoctrination on cerberus base which you can listen to here:
www.youtube.com/watch
#10743
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 12:21
Lotarion wrote...
"I think a lot of the common sense is prevailing," Hudson said. "Initially, it was spun in a direction that suggested that we had taken the lore out of Mass Effect 3 and were holding it inside the DLC only, which now the people who actually have played Mass Effect 3 and the DLC they know that that's not true. So that fear was set aside and, ultimately, I think people get it now."
Oh and this
I think he meant the "From the Ashes" DLC and the complaints that it was taken out of the finished game.
#10744
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 12:21
Lotarion wrote...
"I think a lot of the common sense is prevailing," Hudson said. "Initially, it was spun in a direction that suggested that we had taken the lore out of Mass Effect 3 and were holding it inside the DLC only, which now the people who actually have played Mass Effect 3 and the DLC they know that that's not true. So that fear was set aside and, ultimately, I think people get it now."
Oh and this
He specifically says this in relation to From Ashes.
#10745
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 12:23
I think he's trying to deal with the recent press. I don't think this ends what we've been saying (doesn't add anything though, either).
#10746
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 12:23
Here is a mystery? Why would anyone want to invest in a story from your company again when you know what the endings are gong to entail? Wait, it is not a mystery.We are not going to do it.
Modifié par Dessalines, 14 mars 2012 - 12:24 .
#10747
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 12:25
Ona Demonie wrote...
Second link sounds more like the explosions going on outside.Abdul_777 wrote...
wow,i wrote yesterday that you hear creepy reversed speech in the background during your chat with the prothean VI in cerberus base,you hear the same when youre talking with TIM in the end so it couldnt be interference from VI being "buggy" after hacked or whatever.
www.youtube.com/watch
you can hear it right away here,IF TIM is controlling Shepard here than that means he was already undergoing indoctrination on cerberus base which you can listen to here:
www.youtube.com/watch
I heard it by accident also,i was replaying the cerberus mission,had to alt tab so when i came back i was at dialogue choices,if you let idle there youll be able to hear it more clearly
Modifié par Abdul_777, 14 mars 2012 - 12:25 .
#10748
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 12:25
Geraro wrote...
Bobrzy wrote...
Geraro wrote...
Wall of Text
Your post acctually made me feel much better. I personally fell for the "trap" at first, choosing the synthesis, but then, when i read some explanations etc. i chose the "renegade" destroy the synthetics ending. I was sad about the Geth, and EDI... but the kid lied.
He said that choosing this will wipe out all synthetic life - Reapers, Geth's, and, since Shepard is partially syntethic, also me. But then... Shepard catches a breath. Only in that ending. Only, if you were supposedly killing... yourself. Ain't that a trick.
Absolutely! I felt like one of Pavlov's dogs:
:- ring the bell pick paragon, ring the bell pick paragon - over 100 hours of gameplay - ring the bell pick paragon and then the very last choice - ring the bell - BANG.
Exactly. And, since Shepard lives through, you can assume Geth survived as well. So technically - you did harm only to your worst enemy.
Follow your heart, i know it's a cliche, but agreeing that Anderson made a wrong, evil choice and that Illusive Man made a sacrificing, good choice is something i can't accept. Don't get tricked by the Reapers - follow your heart.
Damn that was a wacky statement, but i hope people will get my point.
#10749
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 12:28
Today, we need to have trust in the events unfolding. Have trust in your reading skills!
The interview says something totally different than those pessimistic readers want to suggest:
Quote:Interestingly, he also mentions some "really great single-player content" that's coming as future downloadable content, which given the manner of the trilogy's conclusion, lends the week's most popular conspiracy theory a little more credibility than it might have first warranted.
I will believe till Bioware/EA goes out of business that there is something coming, something BIG.
We are not alone. We have money in our pockets for all DLC's they throw at us. We showed loyality to the ME series and it will be paid back.
Hold the line, my fellow fans. Hold the line, so that they shall remember us as we never gave them an inch of doubt.
#10750
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 12:30
If Bioware never says anything else about the endings? I will continue believing it's indoctrination. If they never officially say what it is, then they're leaving it up to interpretation. And I will interpret it as indoctrination, because that's where the evidence is.
So don't be depressed because we may not get anything official saying we're right from Bioware. The point is that we've found meaning and importance in this ending, rather than seeing it as something that makes no sense. And that's made the game replayable for me -- and that's the important part.
So if Bioware doesn't ever confirm this? Who cares?! The indoctrination theory is true to me, and unless they come out and say it's wrong, then it will always be how I see my game.




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