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Was the ending a hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory


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#10776
Lurchibald

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To re-iterate things in the simplest way i can, no matter the ending you go for the Citadel blows up.... so there is no way that Shepard could be breathing at the end in the "Perfect" ending.
1. S/he doesn't have any armour any more that could protect her/him from such an explosion.
2. Any possible atmosphere that was there would not be contained where you were.
Therefore in the "Alive" ending, it is impossible for you to have been on the Citadel and still be alive and so the indoctrination/dream theory seems the most likely and logical explanation.

#10777
Spectre-61

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Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

I keep hoping that, no matter what BioWare intended, if we just continue the ****storm long enough they might give in and give us another ending.


Over 28k $ and over 10000 posts in 5 days for that.

Major ****storm, indeed.

#10778
Dessalines

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From this day forward Bioware shall be known for an inexplicable ending that destroys all happiness that came before it.
I was on date and it was amazing and when I got to the door. My date maced me, kicked me in the groin, and ran over my foot with her car. Afterwards, she calls me up and asks me when we are going back out. I asked her why she assaulted me, and my date said, "I was being mysterious and I wanted to make our date unforgetable. I was like. Oh, you Bioware me. Posted Image

Modifié par Dessalines, 14 mars 2012 - 01:00 .


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Anthraxius Omega

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I cannot find any reference on the web of people that completed ME3 a second time. Please keep looing or playing. If you play it right now, just ruch to the end (save where you are now) to see if there is a different ending. If there is, no spoilers pls, just a confimration

#10780
SomeoneStoleMyName

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To those thinking the continued story through a DLC (Main story) will cost money. It wont. Bioware sold the game as a "complete game" and charging money for it would start a firestorm damaging their reputation for good.

They WILL however create lots of bonus DLC material that will cost money, but the continued main story will be free.

Atleast according to common sense.

#10781
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Pathero wrote...

Is it just me or are there more flavours to how people feel about the endings than there are flavours of a religions.
"Yes, I'm a New Scottish Reformation Christian."
Vs.
"Yes, I'm an Indoctrination, Pavlovian, free ending"


Hey don't oppress my religion man.... We Pavlovians believe in free snacks and bells for everyone...:lol:

#10782
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Just found this in a post on Reddit...could it mean anything?

http://i.imgur.com/tQlte.jpg

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SomeoneStoleMyName wrote...

To those thinking the continued story through a DLC (Main story) will cost money. It wont. Bioware sold the game as a "complete game" and charging money for it would start a firestorm damaging their reputation for good.

They WILL however create lots of bonus DLC material that will cost money, but the continued main story will be free.

Atleast according to common sense.


common sense is a rare thing these days, dont count on it.

#10784
CreepingGeth

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Has this been posted yet?

http://www.eurogamer...3-ending-furore

#10785
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I obviously haven't read all the posts but I think this theory makes sense. It's accepted I think that at some point an Omega DLC is going to be released depicting Aria's successful recapture of Omega. Remember though that she said she would only take the mercenaries back once the fight was over. I want to see Bioware create a way out of that without going back in time :P

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grimmy13 wrote...

Just found this in a post on Reddit...could it mean anything?

http://i.imgur.com/tQlte.jpg

Unfortunately no, already explained that it's a mail from time when Ash is in hospital.

#10787
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Ravax wrote...

Starkid: Hello Shepard, I control the Reapers! Everything they have done so far has been part of my plan.
Shepard: Okay!
Starkid: If you want to fix everything jump into that laser over there and synthetics and organics will live in peace FUREVER!
Shepard: Weeee! Jumping into Laser! *Zap*
Harbinger: Need me boss?
Starkid: Naw. Keep exterminating everyone. ****** jumped into a death-laser.
Harbinger: LOL how do you keep getting them to do that?


Hehe found this on the facebook 'Demand a better ending'


lol, well I did it. X)

#10788
Spectre-61

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"We have some really great multiplayer content and some really great single-player content coming over the air and their feedback will become part of how we design that," Hudson added.

Interseting.

#10789
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http://masseffect.wi...LC_Revealed!!!!

Don't put too much weight on it, but it's an interesting theory.

#10790
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Anthraxius Omega wrote...

I cannot find any reference on the web of people that completed ME3 a second time. Please keep looing or playing. If you play it right now, just ruch to the end (save where you are now) to see if there is a different ending. If there is, no spoilers pls, just a confimration




a friend and i played through a second time nothings different same as in our first playthrough

#10791
knilchibus

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 I'm not sure if this has been brought up, but isn't it possible that Shepard also lives
in the case that he chooses synergy or control?
After all it is possible that in those cases he lives, but he's indocrinated so he's not self-aware.
In the other case he breaks the control and realizes where he is.
That way it's possible that bioware plans to release a DLC for the rest of the fight where you
actually have to fight the reapers - since shepard is still in London.

Maybe in the case that he's indoctrinated you have to somehow break that - maybe by
talking to your loved ones or w/e.

Modifié par knilchibus, 14 mars 2012 - 01:12 .


#10792
Reaper of Reapers

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Hello again everybody, I just woke up and I saw this in the other 1000+ page thread. Has this been discussed? Is there anything else important that I missed in the last maybe 20 pages or so? Thanks in advance!

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I played through me3 really fast,only to get upset by its unsatisfying ending.
The day after i was very depressed, could not believe what i just saw.
Then after googling about the endings i found this thread. I just red about 300 pages,so i understand what you people are talking about. After playing,reading about this and playing the last few hours again i have come to the conclusion that this indoctrination thesis is very obvious for me. So even if this bioware ending was the final one,my own canon will be this thesis about the indoctrination.So i want to thank the myth busters in this forum for all piece of evidence they gathered. It made me smile again

Thus far i just sat down a few minutes ago to replay,the last sequence where you have to chose about control/synergie or destruction.
After 431 pages i am not that sure if it was mentioned that this last room is in vacuum,so without his proper gear, Shepard would just die.

And if you just turn around,back to this mysterious plattform where you just came from before that dialogue with the starchild there is again this 1m1 sign. Somebody already posted i picture where you can see how the crucible and the citadell get connected. So this room isn't a room,because as i said its in the vacuum and its the link between crucible and citadell.
Some people said that 1m1 would make no sense on the citadell,but i makes sense on the side built by the alliance forces. So i think it isn't a myth at all.

But the thing with vacuum and no helmet (space gear) is the turning point for my on this thesis.
Because its so god damn unlogical and senseless.

ps: please excuse my bad writing, english isn't my first language.

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Reaper of Reapers wrote...

Hello again everybody, I just woke up and I saw this in the other 1000+ page thread. Has this been discussed? Is there anything else important that I missed in the last maybe 20 pages or so? Thanks in advance!


oh man now i got my hopes up again

#10795
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knilchibus wrote...

 I'm not sure if this has been brought up, but isn't it possible that Shepard also lives
in the case that he chooses synergy or control?
After all it is possible that in those cases he lives, but he's indocrinated so he's not self-aware.
In the other case he breaks the control and realizes where he is.
That way it's possible that bioware plans to release a DLC for the rest of the fight where you
actually have to fight the reapers - since shepard is still in London.

Maybe in the case that he's indoctrinated you have to somehow break that - maybe by
talking to your loved ones or w/e.


This makes perfect sense. The glory of this theory is that if in fact it turns out to be true, and shepard is being indoctrinated, there is nothing to prevent the true story from being finished, this is especially true in the case that s/he resists the indoctrination attempt.

Modifié par Syphirr, 14 mars 2012 - 01:18 .


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I obviously haven't read all the posts but I think this theory makes sense. It's accepted I think that at some point an Omega DLC is going to be released depicting Aria's successful recapture of Omega. Remember though that she said she would only take the mercenaries back once the fight was over. I want to see Bioware create a way out of that without going back in time :P

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Bobrzy wrote...

grimmy13 wrote...

Just found this in a post on Reddit...could it mean anything?

http://i.imgur.com/tQlte.jpg

Unfortunately no, already explained that it's a mail from time when Ash is in hospital.


Its not :).

1) Skipper ---> Ash would call Sheppard that only at the end of game (romance). Sheppar is commander for almost whole time. (1st skipper in me3 is during udina death)
As well its not pre me3 when he is grounded. Ash said that she didn't want vist him then.

2) Hang in there ---> It means she gives comfort to sheppard becouse something did happen to him. Also this is very much but reverse when Sheppard visit Ash in hospital when is is unconscious after attack on Mars

I guess sheppard is in hospital and uncounscious after encounter with reaper beam on earth. It all suits 3 endings very well : Destory - they find sheppard under rubble and get him to hospital (he resisted indoctrination), Control/Synthesis - sheppard body is in hospital but his mind is somewhere else - > struggle with indoctrination.

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A few hours ago an anonymous user who leaked the multiplayer DLC (just an hour earlier) has claimed that the ending fiasco was deliberate because of the game’s storyline being leaked. They changed it so they could have more time to prepare the real ending DLC.

It is called “The Truth”, and will be released in April or May… You will be able to continue your story if you picked any of the endings. Your decision during the sequence will have a big effect on the ending of The Truth. Also, The Truth adds two new sets of enemies, new classes, and multiplayer maps, including “Firebase Hive”, which is a small area of the last remaining Collector Ship included in the DLC, which, by the way, you should definitely bring Javik the Prothean along if you have them.

The following picture shows some of the leaked multiplayer classes and races. One race that isn’t shown is the Prothean Adept and Vanguard. This DLC also, enables the ability for owners of the preorder and From Ashes DLC to find their DLC weapons in reinforcement packs.

All of that content, and this might as well be labelled an expansion.

And it’s Free!

#10799
Anthraxius Omega

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This is from the above link at http://masseffect.wi...LC_Revealed!!!!

HOLD THE LINE!

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SomeoneStoleMyName wrote...

To those thinking the continued story through a DLC (Main story) will cost money. It wont. Bioware sold the game as a "complete game" and charging money for it would start a firestorm damaging their reputation for good.

They WILL however create lots of bonus DLC material that will cost money, but the continued main story will be free.

Atleast according to common sense.


EA? Common sense? Don't make me laugh