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[blooregard]

CreepingGeth wrote...

Regarding Casey Hudson saying they'd never leave key details out of the main experience, I have a question for those of you that didn't use Javik.

On Thessia, Javik reveals some pretty essential stuff to Liara. What happens if Javik isn't there? My friend, who doesn't have Javik, was surprised when I told him what Javik revealed. Did anyone else play it without Javik but get what he reveals some other way?

If not, then yeah, Bioware, you do leave out key details from the main experience.

lets not forget their "sugar on top" in ME2 was pretty damn story important in ME3 Liara being the shadow broker, shepard blowing up the alpha relay Zaeed and Kasumi have a fairly important role in the game as well dispite them being "sugar on top"

[Sheparded]

https://twitter.com/...967731070799872

could this mean.....we are all right

[killnoob]

Baronesa wrote...

byne wrote...

MintyCool wrote...

You are all the political equivalent to the Occupy Movement. Poor unemployed liberals who feel that the world owes them something.

Unfortunately for you, the majority (Fans of the ending, the media, and Bioware) will just continue to walk on by as you beat you tin drum. lol.

Accept it.

Oh, I get it, you're either a troll or a Fox News viewer.

No wonder you liked the ending.

Wow... that was awesome XD

byne for the win!

Missed the point.

Think he was directing at those people who believed in the hallucination theory in general.

if he isn't, he's trolling alright, and failing epically at that.

[JulienJaden]

Action Bawstard wrote...

MintyCool wrote...

You're the political equivalent to the Occupy Movement. Poor unemployed liberals who feel that the world owes them something.

Unfortunately for you, the majority (Fans of the ending, the media, and Bioware) will just continue to walk on by as you beat your tin drum. lol.

Accept it. Minorites always lose.

http://t.qkme.me/352z5c.jpg

The Occupy Movement and, in fact, everybody who actually knows a thing or two about globalization and capitalism, approves.

[njfluffy19]

killnoob wrote...

You're assuming that the indoctrination is complete. If so, there'd be no purpose for presenting a series of choices. The indoctrination theory rides on the concept that this is merely an ATTEMPT, and the evidence supports it. After all, this is presented to you by a dead kid you see in your dreams...dreams you only have after being in direct contact with a Reaper. The effect is shallow, unreliable, and completely left up to the player to recognize it.
.

So explain to me:

Where does the hallucination starts and where it ends?

Does the kid exist? Or is he part of the indoctrination?

The kid is a part of the indoctrination. It is a part of Shepard and Harbinger. It is the part of Shepard that is losing his/her will to fight and a part of Harbinger trying to convince you that the destroying the Reapers isn't the most viable option, let alone the only one.

[2_BR4ZIL_2]

thePredator50 wrote...

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Come on...

Hmm... "Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data" so its incomplete data alright!

[Cellander]

I don't know if this could contribute to this theory:

The first thing I noticed while waking up on the citadel is that it first reminds you of the Collector Ship.
These tubes, piles of bodies, fluid pouring and general insectoid feeling to it. Even Anderson says this.



Then it strongly reminds you of the Shadow Broker ship all of a sudden. These electrical charged discs moving up and down, the footbridge and electricity receivers on the sides.

The footbridge on Shadow Broker Ship:


The footbridge on the Citadel:


The electrified discs on the Shadow Broker Ship


The electrified discs on the Citadel:


Ramps and receivers on the side on the Citadel:


Also, this I don't know but the room with Illusive Man and Anderson looks a bit like the room Illusive Man used to sit in, empty circular room with a holographic interface and a massive vision over a celestial body, when Citadel opens. The glowing ring on the floor is where Shepard used to stand on while talking to Illusive man, although in the Citadel version it's much bigger.



About the Shadow Broker thing: On Hagalaz the discs is to absorb electricity from the thunders constantly going on outside to keep the ship powered. Now, there's no thunder in space. Would the Citadel really need that kind of technology, seems out of place? That design seems unique to the Shadow Broker ship and I've never seen such thing on the Citadel. Something is not right here.

To me the environments in the last minutes of Mass Effect 3 seems to be "memories" from actual places Shepard has visited. What do you think?

[HairyMadDog1010]

Noob451 wrote...

PKchu wrote...

https://twitter.com/...967731070799872

Huh

Chris Priestly[/b]‏ @[/s]BioEvilChris[/b][/i] Follow [/i]There are two types of people in this world. Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
[/list]

His next tweet could kill or prove this theory.

[Elendstourist]

Noob451 wrote...

PKchu wrote...

https://twitter.com/...967731070799872

Huh

Chris Priestly[/b]‏ @[/s]BioEvilChris[/b][/i] Follow [/i]There are two types of people in this world. Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
[/list]

I am afraid my english isnt good enough. Is he giving a hint about people who are able to think things further, like we do?

[MaP_Prime]

There is another thing that has been bugging me about the Hudson interview. Is it possible the ending they created was meant to be the way it is to get all of us talking and coming up with our own ideas to give Bioware an indication on what to do next? I mean is it possible that Bioware has been reading all of these theories and saying "you know what? This indoctrination idea is kinda neat, let's take that and run with it!" or something? I know probably grasping, but that Hudson interview has brought me down again to think the ending in the game is the only ending we're getting...

[Noob451]

lex0r11 wrote...

kent80082006 wrote...

Recap of star child on destroy option

You can destroy all reapers if you like
Can you imagine your life without synthetics?
Even you are partly synthetics
Including the geth

It's obvious that the star child doesn't want you to choose the destroy option
However Shpeherd will only wake up if you choose the destroy option
So if you can't explain why the star child so subtly try to interfere with Shepher's choice with those unnecessary details you have to admit there's something more to the ending

"but the reapers will be destroyed?"
"yes, but the peace won't last. soon, your children will create synthetics and then the chaos will come back."

this.
it's the only option that is presented as negative. no real manipulation other than 'positive' end results in the other two options, only a short decription.

and then shepard simply says  "maybe..."

[mr.surv]

CreepingGeth wrote...

Regarding Casey Hudson saying they'd never leave key details out of the main experience, I have a question for those of you that didn't use Javik.

On Thessia, Javik reveals some pretty essential stuff to Liara. What happens if Javik isn't there? My friend, who doesn't have Javik, was surprised when I told him what Javik revealed. Did anyone else play it without Javik but get what he reveals some other way?

If not, then yeah, Bioware, you do leave out key details from the main experience.

If Protheans teach Asari about math etc. And then they are wiped out by Reapers why there's nothing about massive reapers attack in asari history/legends/religion? Since they have info about protheans as gods.

Also.
Javik is SO arogant sometimes...

[Eclipse merc]

I really hope he was hallucinating or dreaming, or something.

[Wattoes]

blooregard wrote...

Wattoes wrote...

I just watched the "up at noon" thing on IGN with Casey Hudson.

He makes it pretty clear that all dlc they make in the future will just be "sugar on top" and they would never leave key details out of the main experience.

I hate to say it folks, but thats pretty much a nail in the coffin.

wasn't he also the one that said "there would be no unanswered questions or loose ends" and that "not everybody would get the same 'A B or C'" and then everyone gets the same  A,B,or C ending

Ya fair enough.  In the same video he also talks about how this is "the most conclusive ending weve ever done".

Im not trying to be evil here, merely pointing out something that hasn't been mentioned yet.   The sad fact is that, with almost certainty, these are the intended endings.

Modifié par Wattoes, 14 mars 2012 - 04:52 .

[Lemondish]

Capeo wrote...

kent80082006 wrote...

Recap of star child on destroy option

You can destroy all reapers if you like
Can you imagine your life without synthetics?
Even you are partly synthetics
Including the geth

It's obvious that the star child doesn't want you to choose the destroy option
However Shpeherd will only wake up if you choose the destroy option
So if you can't explain why the star child so subtly try to interfere with Shepher's choice with those unnecessary details you have to admit there's something more to the ending

That's because BW themselves see this as the worst outcome.  Read the script.  The whole point of the game is to bring synthetics and organics together.  BW uses the word "perfect" in regards to the Synergy ending.

If the whole point of the game is to bring synthetics and organics together, why do you believe the kid when he says there must be a new solution or 'synthetics will kill all organics'. There's no evidence to suggest any synthetics will rise up and kill organics as it has yet to happen. The geth are the only example, and we learned through the story that they were simply defending themselves.

[Noob451]

Elendstourist wrote...

Noob451 wrote...

PKchu wrote...

https://twitter.com/...967731070799872

Huh

Chris Priestly[/b]‏ @[/s]BioEvilChris[/b][/i] Follow [/i]There are two types of people in this world. Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
[/list]

I am afraid my english isnt good enough. Is he giving a hint about people who are able to think things further, like we do?

it's possible.  it's either a hint of some sort, or an unrelated tweet (doubtful)

[killnoob]

redBadger14 wrote...

killnoob wrote...

redBadger14 wrote...

killnoob wrote...



Facepalm.

Right so none of the three end cut scenes are real.

Even with the destroyer option, where you actually SEE reaper destroyed. <---this leading into the sentence below is an incomplete sentence
Shepard doesn't immediately wakes up - instead he dream some more about reapers getting destroyed and how normandy crushland and joker walk out with his best buddy and watch the sunset blah blah

Enough is enough. = =

Learn to type coherent, English sentences and I may consider taking that post seriously.

Err what part of it wasn't coherent?

And don't you mean "coherently"??

facepalm some more.*

No, using "coherently" where I used "coherent" in that sentence would be grammatically incorrect, not to mention it would sound utterly stupid.

I bolded everything that made no sense. Destroyer is improper. That leads to an incomplete sentence. After that, you use two impropers before a plural in a row which is horrendous grammar. Dream needs to be plural in that sentence. And crushland is not a word.

Please don't try and insult my intelligence. 

Pretty sure the capitalized "Shepard" means that's the start of a new sentence.

Pretty damn sure you can understand what i said all right.

Please don't try to bring grammars into an arguements.

"Your arguement is right, but your grammars are wrong."

Derp <<< not a word but people use it.

Go correct them, Professor.

[Fledgey]

Capeo wrote...

kent80082006 wrote...

Recap of star child on destroy option

You can destroy all reapers if you like
Can you imagine your life without synthetics?
Even you are partly synthetics
Including the geth

It's obvious that the star child doesn't want you to choose the destroy option
However Shpeherd will only wake up if you choose the destroy option
So if you can't explain why the star child so subtly try to interfere with Shepher's choice with those unnecessary details you have to admit there's something more to the ending

That's because BW themselves see this as the worst outcome.  Read the script.  The whole point of the game is to bring synthetics and organics together.  BW uses the word "perfect" in regards to the Synergy ending.

People seem to assume that it's impossible to leak something on purpose. It's entirely possible that the leaks were set up in a way as to keep us unprepared for what was to come. In fact, that's not true anyway. The perfect ending is "destroy" with 5000+ ems.

[JulienJaden]

Sheparded wrote...

https://twitter.com/...967731070799872

could this mean.....we are all right

One thing's for sure: If Bioware tells us, in the end, that they were just kidding and that there are no other endings or more details to come, they have to vastly improve security measures after statements like that. 

Modifié par JulienJaden, 14 mars 2012 - 04:53 .

[Jaxitty]

I was thinking...reading some of the questions about the Star Child...what if he was simply a manifestation of what Shep was familiar with and could accept, like in Ghostbusters, when the guys were told to Choose the form of the Destroyer.

[prag16]

PKchu wrote...

https://twitter.com/...967731070799872

Huh

To me that sounds like it backs up the prospects of the indoctrination theory.  However I'm sure it can be interpreted other ways..

[MatthewGold]

Michał Korniluk ‏ @MichaKorniluk
@BioEvilChris There are also people selling incomplete data telling us it's complete. Such people are bastards, aren't they?

Chris Priestly ‏ @BioEvilChris
@MichaKorniluk Good thing I don't know anyone like that.


Oh ho ho ho.

[killnoob]

Noob451 wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

kent80082006 wrote...

Recap of star child on destroy option

You can destroy all reapers if you like
Can you imagine your life without synthetics?
Even you are partly synthetics
Including the geth

It's obvious that the star child doesn't want you to choose the destroy option
However Shpeherd will only wake up if you choose the destroy option
So if you can't explain why the star child so subtly try to interfere with Shepher's choice with those unnecessary details you have to admit there's something more to the ending

"but the reapers will be destroyed?"
"yes, but the peace won't last. soon, your children will create synthetics and then the chaos will come back."

this.
it's the only option that is presented as negative. no real manipulation other than 'positive' end results in the other two options, only a short decription.

and then shepard simply says  "maybe..."

Shpard: Yes, I am going to destroy the reapers.

God Child: okay go right ahead.

?????

Manipulation? Trying to sway Shepard into choosing other 2?
Damn that kid is easy to give up.

[njfluffy19]

killnoob wrote...

Pretty sure the capitalized "Shepard" means that's the start of a new sentence.

Pretty damn sure you can understand what i said all right.

Please don't try to bring grammars into an arguements.

"Your arguement is right, but your grammars are wrong."

Derp <<< not a word but people use it.

Go correct them, Professor.

 Trolololo!

Everyone has a right to argue. You do it in an offensive manner. "Believe me because I am right and your theory is dumb *facepalm*"

That, sir, will get you nowhere in life.

Modifié par njfluffy19, 14 mars 2012 - 04:55 .

[Noob451]

MatthewGold wrote...

Michał Korniluk ‏ @MichaKorniluk
@BioEvilChris There are also people selling incomplete data telling us it's complete. Such people are bastards, aren't they?

Chris Priestly ‏ @BioEvilChris
@MichaKorniluk Good thing I don't know anyone like that.


Oh ho ho ho.

damn it Chris!   staight answer! come on!