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[Earthborn_Shepard]

This is priceless:

[Noob451]

Auresta wrote...

angryjon wrote...

Nighthunteer wrote...


 

I know this is off topic but... jeez look at the detail difference between the games... i never really noticed until put side by side like this..

Do your eyes turn blue even if you were a full Renegade?

yes

[Nighthunteer]

Auresta wrote...

angryjon wrote...

Nighthunteer wrote...


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I know this is off topic but... jeez look at the detail difference between the games... i never really noticed until put side by side like this..

Do your eyes turn blue even if you were a full Renegade?

From what I can see yes, but I cant confirm since I am not full Renegade :/

[wryterra]

Has anyone brought up the god pistol?

TIM walks behind Anderson and steps out again with a pistol. TIM didn't bring it with him. Anderson didn't have it on him. Where did that gun come form?

[ChrisSheppy]

angryjon wrote...

ProdigalMaster wrote...

This might have been mentioned before, but there are odd similarities
between the "semi-real" area Shepard wakes up in after Harbinger's blast ,
and the god-child's area. The first one is pretty obvious:


i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u405/ProdigalMaster/ME3real.jpg
i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u405/ProdigalMaster/ME3dream.jpg


This
one is a bit odd, is it just crazy coincidence? Remember that the
god-child area is not symmetrical, on the opposite right side there are
no such shapes.

i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u405/ProdigalMaster/ME3real2.jpg
i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u405/ProdigalMaster/ME3dream2.jpg

Definitely a nice catch.. I wouldn't be surprised if the two areas are in fact the same..

If the areas were in fact the same, then the Synthesis option would mean that Shepard jumps into the beam which will bring him up to the Citadel, interesting...

[The Almighty Ali]

I believe it's a "dream" caused by Shepard being possibly thrown back from the Reapers Beam while he was trying to reach the energy pillar, it fits the most in my opinion and even more so if you consider the small extra scene with Shepard suddenly moving among rubble.

That's what I'm betting on.

[General-Lee]

I don't know if this has been resolved- can't be arsed to go through the thread to find out- but when the VI detected an indoctrinated presence on the Asari homeworld, was Kai Leng even indoctrinated? On my play through I found no mention of him being so.

Anyone clarify this for me?

[Nighthunteer]

Remember from the ending of ME 1 - Shepard shouts to Saren - SOVEREIGN is CONTROLLING YOU THROUGH YOUR IMPLANTS.

Important, maybe or maybe not...

[Plaseno]

ProdigalMaster wrote...

This might have been mentioned before, but there are odd similarities
between the "semi-real" area Shepard wakes up in after Harbinger's blast ,
and the god-child's area. The first one is pretty obvious:


i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u405/ProdigalMaster/ME3real.jpg
i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u405/ProdigalMaster/ME3dream.jpg


This
one is a bit odd, is it just crazy coincidence? Remember that the
god-child area is not symmetrical, on the opposite right side there are
no such shapes.

i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u405/ProdigalMaster/ME3real2.jpg
i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u405/ProdigalMaster/ME3dream2.jpg

That just blew my mind somehow. Doesn't the child tell you synthesis (going into the beam) is the best choice? So you would go up to the citadel and give your body to the reapers or something...

[Noob451]

wryterra wrote...

Has anyone brought up the god pistol?

TIM walks behind Anderson and steps out again with a pistol. TIM didn't bring it with him. Anderson didn't have it on him. Where did that gun come form?

it was brought up, but I don't remember what was said.

[Serlith_]

wryterra wrote...

Has anyone brought up the god pistol?

TIM walks behind Anderson and steps out again with a pistol. TIM didn't bring it with him. Anderson didn't have it on him. Where did that gun come form?

Actually in the very beginning, the opening act, Anderson gives Shepard a pistol which he also didn't have on him before. A game mechanics imperfection, AFAIK

[Noob451]

Nighthunteer wrote...

Remember from the ending of ME 1 - Shepard shouts to Saren - SOVEREIGN is CONTROLLING YOU THROUGH YOUR IMPLANTS.

Important, maybe or maybe not...

saren also says something about synthesis, combining organics and synthetics, the strength of both, weaknesses of neither.

[Auresta]

Serlith_ wrote...

wryterra wrote...

Has anyone brought up the god pistol?

TIM walks behind Anderson and steps out again with a pistol. TIM didn't bring it with him. Anderson didn't have it on him. Where did that gun come form?

Actually in the very beginning, the opening act, Anderson gives Shepard a pistol which he also didn't have on him before. A game mechanics imperfection, AFAIK

This.

[Martukis]

ChrisSheppy wrote...

angryjon wrote...

ProdigalMaster wrote...

This might have been mentioned before, but there are odd similarities
between the "semi-real" area Shepard wakes up in after Harbinger's blast ,
and the god-child's area. The first one is pretty obvious:


i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u405/ProdigalMaster/ME3real.jpg
i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u405/ProdigalMaster/ME3dream.jpg


This
one is a bit odd, is it just crazy coincidence? Remember that the
god-child area is not symmetrical, on the opposite right side there are
no such shapes.

i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u405/ProdigalMaster/ME3real2.jpg
i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u405/ProdigalMaster/ME3dream2.jpg

Definitely a nice catch.. I wouldn't be surprised if the two areas are in fact the same..

If the areas were in fact the same, then the Synthesis option would mean that Shepard jumps into the beam which will bring him up to the Citadel, interesting...

 And rushing for "destruction" leads to charging at Harbringer... Hrm..

[vrumpt]

Question: has it been determined under what conditions the god child greets Shepard with "What are you doing here?" and "Wake up."? I feel like if those are only dependent on EMS score then this theory is confirmed.

[Tailen]

soull2 wrote...

Serlith_ wrote...


Is not. If you played the ME2 nad read the lore, you actually know that each one of the Reapers is made from a different race, one for every one of the destroyed ones. That's how they "preserve" them. That's why the Collectors went and collected humans from all around the galaxy in ME2.

That's what I was saying. The collectors spent so much time taking the humans to the base whereas the reapers can just bring the base to Earth to make a new one.

Right.  Perhaps one Reaper for each race harvested in a cycle, not just one per cycle, but the idea of the Citadel being how they construct themselves still has merit.  It would really help explain it being moved.

I also like the idea that the Citadel is both a means of their creation and -- through the addition of the Crucible -- their destruction.  It's both powerfully symbolic and lends to it being scientifically sound.

[Auresta]

vrumpt wrote...

Question: has it been determined under what conditions the god child greets Shepard with "What are you doing here?" and "Wake up."? I feel like if those are only dependent on EMS score then this theory is confirmed.

Bumping but supposedly it is only based on EMS. And it doesn't necessarily prove anything, so hold your horses.

[Niemack Saarinen]

Serlith_ wrote...

wryterra wrote...

Has anyone brought up the god pistol?

TIM walks behind Anderson and steps out again with a pistol. TIM didn't bring it with him. Anderson didn't have it on him. Where did that gun come form?

Actually in the very beginning, the opening act, Anderson gives Shepard a pistol which he also didn't have on him before. A game mechanics imperfection, AFAIK

yeah but that can slightly be explained that there are marine guards im sure within the room there so he lifted it form a dead body.

[Nighthunteer]

Noob451 wrote...

Auresta wrote...

angryjon wrote...

Nighthunteer wrote...


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I know this is off topic but... jeez look at the detail difference between the games... i never really noticed until put side by side like this..

Do your eyes turn blue even if you were a full Renegade?

yes

 
I am getting more and more conviced! 

[CptData]

Just replayed the endings.

Dunno why, but now that I know what I'm looking for, I'm pretty certain Shepard never left Earth. He got knocked out by the beam and is dying - and while he's in his final moments, his brain fights either indoctrination or death himself:

Only the Destruction Ending is "absolutely true" to Shepard and is powerful enough to bring him back to the living - in case Shepard is indoctrinated, he defeats indoctrination. If he's not indoctrinated, the Destruction Ending symbolizes Shepard's willpower - and if that one is strong enough, he can "force" his body to stay alive. So to speak.

[vrumpt]

Auresta wrote...

vrumpt wrote...

Question: has it been determined under what conditions the god child greets Shepard with "What are you doing here?" and "Wake up."? I feel like if those are only dependent on EMS score then this theory is confirmed.

Bumping but supposedly it is only based on EMS. And it doesn't necessarily prove anything, so hold your horses.

I think for me it proves that the ending was deliberatly set up this way instead of just the planets aligning at the mercy of bad writing.  2 peices of intentional conditonal evidence is all we need.  Shepard waking up at the end of the destory option is the first.

[Serlith_]

Niemack Saarinen wrote...

Serlith_ wrote...

wryterra wrote...

Has anyone brought up the god pistol?

TIM walks behind Anderson and steps out again with a pistol. TIM didn't bring it with him. Anderson didn't have it on him. Where did that gun come form?

Actually in the very beginning, the opening act, Anderson gives Shepard a pistol which he also didn't have on him before. A game mechanics imperfection, AFAIK

yeah but that can slightly be explained that there are marine guards im sure within the room there so he lifted it form a dead body.

Can it really? IF so, he wouldn't have it on his belt, but he'd rather hold it in his hand and give directly to Shepard. It's mostly speculations on this part, but better to be sceptical. Remember - in cutscenes Shepard sometimes pulls a gun/a rifle out of his/her ass.

[Tygur]

Feel like each "class" of reaper would have been a different race. Thats why they look different, and why the human one looked human. If not, it seems really strange that all the other races would make lobster-looking ones.

[Golferguy758]

Fun fact that was just pointed out to me in reference to the child. He always appears next to a danger/caution/warning sign.

Could be coincidence. Could be not coincidence. /shrug

[kyrieee]

Plaseno wrote...

ProdigalMaster wrote...

This might have been mentioned before, but there are odd similarities
between the "semi-real" area Shepard wakes up in after Harbinger's blast ,
and the god-child's area. The first one is pretty obvious:


i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u405/ProdigalMaster/ME3real.jpg
i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u405/ProdigalMaster/ME3dream.jpg


This
one is a bit odd, is it just crazy coincidence? Remember that the
god-child area is not symmetrical, on the opposite right side there are
no such shapes.

i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u405/ProdigalMaster/ME3real2.jpg
i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u405/ProdigalMaster/ME3dream2.jpg

That just blew my mind somehow. Doesn't the child tell you synthesis (going into the beam) is the best choice? So you would go up to the citadel and give your body to the reapers or something...

I would interpret that more as it being the last thing Shepard saw, the thing he was so determined to get to. When you dream you often see things that are important to you, or you've thought about a lot etc. So I would just say, Shepard's dream is influenced by the last thing he saw.