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[Stealthy Cake]

Noob451 wrote...

Nighthunteer wrote...

Remember from the ending of ME 1 - Shepard shouts to Saren - SOVEREIGN is CONTROLLING YOU THROUGH YOUR IMPLANTS.

Important, maybe or maybe not...

saren also says something about synthesis, combining organics and synthetics, the strength of both, weaknesses of neither.

He roughly says that he wants to forge an alliance with Flesh and Steel, Between organics and machines. ''The strenght of both, the weaknesses of neither'' is among those lines.
This refers ALOT to the merge(green /trollface) ending.

[HairyMadDog1010]

vrumpt wrote...

Question: has it been determined under what conditions the god child greets Shepard with "What are you doing here?" and "Wake up."? I feel like if those are only dependent on EMS score then this theory is confirmed.

As far as I know The wake up only happens with high ems.

[Dap Brannigan]

Martukis wrote...

ChrisSheppy wrote...

angryjon wrote...

ProdigalMaster wrote...

This might have been mentioned before, but there are odd similarities
between the "semi-real" area Shepard wakes up in after Harbinger's blast ,
and the god-child's area. The first one is pretty obvious:


i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u405/ProdigalMaster/ME3real.jpg
i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u405/ProdigalMaster/ME3dream.jpg


This
one is a bit odd, is it just crazy coincidence? Remember that the
god-child area is not symmetrical, on the opposite right side there are
no such shapes.

i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u405/ProdigalMaster/ME3real2.jpg
i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u405/ProdigalMaster/ME3dream2.jpg

Definitely a nice catch.. I wouldn't be surprised if the two areas are in fact the same..

If the areas were in fact the same, then the Synthesis option would mean that Shepard jumps into the beam which will bring him up to the Citadel, interesting...

 And rushing for "destruction" leads to charging at Harbringer... Hrm..

I think this is reading into it too much.  Shepard is unconscious.  The point of the similarities, I think, is that it's more proof that Shepard is conjuring the ghost-child dream based entirely on imagery he's familiar with. 

[blooregard]

wryterra wrote...

Has anyone brought up the god pistol?

TIM walks behind Anderson and steps out again with a pistol. TIM didn't bring it with him. Anderson didn't have it on him. Where did that gun come form?

I'm all for the indoctronation theory but out of all the pieces of evidence supporting it why exactly is the infinite ammo pistol even mentioned? there are alot of times in just about EVERY game with guns where there's a sequence where you have unlimited ammo and/or do more damage then usual. I personally think we should just throw out the god pistol as a piece of evidence as things like that are too tied into game mechanics not sudden plot twists

[Serlith_]

Tygur wrote...

Feel like each "class" of reaper would have been a different race. Thats why they look different, and why the human one looked human. If not, it seems really strange that all the other races would make lobster-looking ones.

The species-it-was-made-from-look-alike-form is only a "core" of the reaper, so to speak. If I understand the lore correctly, the actual outside of a Reaper is built AROUND the "core". That's why the human reaper is called a "larva" one.

[Auresta]

blooregard wrote...

wryterra wrote...

Has anyone brought up the god pistol?

TIM walks behind Anderson and steps out again with a pistol. TIM didn't bring it with him. Anderson didn't have it on him. Where did that gun come form?

I'm all for the indoctronation theory but out of all the pieces of evidence supporting it why exactly is the infinite ammo pistol even mentioned? there are alot of times in just about EVERY game with guns where there's a sequence where you have unlimited ammo and/or do more damage then usual. I personally think we should just throw out the god pistol as a piece of evidence as things like that are too tied into game mechanics not sudden plot twists

Thanks for bringing this up. It's a commonly used device.

[TheRaggyGandalf]

Well if we assume that bioware isn't complete lazy with 3d modelling, then the post teleport "citadel" has some striking resemblances to earlier areas Shepard has been to.

There is the initial room which is from the collector base harvesting humans for another reaper.
And what personally struck me as odd is that the chasm after that room is awfully similar to the technology inside of the shadowbrokers ship. (Large hexagonal planes discharging)

So maybe this is all in his subconsciousness

[Tygur]

Serlith_ wrote...

Tygur wrote...

Feel like each "class" of reaper would have been a different race. Thats why they look different, and why the human one looked human. If not, it seems really strange that all the other races would make lobster-looking ones.

The species-it-was-made-from-look-alike-form is only a "core" of the reaper, so to speak. If I understand the lore correctly, the actual outside of a Reaper is built AROUND the "core". That's why the human reaper is called a "larva" one.

Makes an odd sort of sense, thanks.

[Debi-Tage]

I am retaking Grissom Academy and picked up a note from a Cerberus operative next to the Cerberus laptop you find after talking to Jack.

"High Priority Target
Student ID:12-5D Prangley
Status: Capture Priority Alpha. Bring back alive at all costs.

Vital retrieval subject due to high-level biotic abilities paired with high leadership testing scores. Considered prime candidate for indoctrination and high-level enhancements for subsequent long-term infiltration relocation."

Just another clue about indoctrination stuff in ME3

[oyukichan]

Noob451 wrote...

mushoops86anjyl wrote...
The more I think about the indoctrination theory, the more it makes sense. It certainly explains one of my two problems with the ending: the plotholes and the ridiculous last 5 or so minutes. It also explains why in the best/destroy ending, it's heavily implied that Shepard "wakes up" at the spot where he was hit by the beam. But that still leaves my other big problem: there's no resolution, no conclusion. If this is indeed true, and even if Bioware is planning some sort of DLC ending (free or not), I just don't understand why the final game in a beloved series was shipped without a conclusion.

nobody does...

I can't help but wonder if they wanted to see how the fans would react to the whole thing. How many would stay true to Shepard and be able to break free of indoctrination? You know?

While we were waiting on 3, there was so much speculation and even ****ing and threatening going on on the boards, facebook, and twitter. And now, with what we've been given, they can get our actual reactions to what they have given us. Which, believe it or not, is actually what some people wanted. Not me, but hey, at this point, thanks to those cryptic tweets and a few other things that I happened to miss initially but were pointed out on the internet, I can wait. I've said my piece (shared my blog with @masseffect). They have my feedback. And now I can wait and see what happens. And commiserate with like-minded folk here. 

[Nighthunteer]

I put them together for you all!
Well done OP that got them!

[Fat Headed Wolf]

Martukis wrote...

ChrisSheppy wrote...

angryjon wrote...

ProdigalMaster wrote...

This might have been mentioned before, but there are odd similarities
between the "semi-real" area Shepard wakes up in after Harbinger's blast ,
and the god-child's area. The first one is pretty obvious:


i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u405/ProdigalMaster/ME3real.jpg
i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u405/ProdigalMaster/ME3dream.jpg


This
one is a bit odd, is it just crazy coincidence? Remember that the
god-child area is not symmetrical, on the opposite right side there are
no such shapes.

i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u405/ProdigalMaster/ME3real2.jpg
i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u405/ProdigalMaster/ME3dream2.jpg

Definitely a nice catch.. I wouldn't be surprised if the two areas are in fact the same..

If the areas were in fact the same, then the Synthesis option would mean that Shepard jumps into the beam which will bring him up to the Citadel, interesting...

 And rushing for "destruction" leads to charging at Harbringer... Hrm..

Very interesting stuff... 

[TheRaggyGandalf]

Auresta wrote...

blooregard wrote...

wryterra wrote...

Has anyone brought up the god pistol?

TIM walks behind Anderson and steps out again with a pistol. TIM didn't bring it with him. Anderson didn't have it on him. Where did that gun come form?

I'm all for the indoctronation theory but out of all the pieces of evidence supporting it why exactly is the infinite ammo pistol even mentioned? there are alot of times in just about EVERY game with guns where there's a sequence where you have unlimited ammo and/or do more damage then usual. I personally think we should just throw out the god pistol as a piece of evidence as things like that are too tied into game mechanics not sudden plot twists

Thanks for bringing this up. It's a commonly used device.

On the other hand Dragon Age 2 used overpowered weapons for when varrik was making stuff up

[Golferguy758]

I wouldn't read too much into the running at harbinger or the numerology. Those seem pretty far stretches for me.

[CreepingGeth]

Nighthunteer wrote...


I put them together for you all!
Well done OP that got them!

On one hand I feel like this is stretching, but on the other... it's actually hilariously awesome that this was spotted.

[smargh1015]

Nighthunteer wrote...


I put them together for you all!
Well done OP that got them!

what does this mean?
(edit) read above . really a stretch though. Not sure what its supposed to mean.

Modifié par smargh1015, 14 mars 2012 - 09:45 .

[blooregard]

Nighthunteer wrote...


I put them together for you all!
Well done OP that got them!

so synthisis = going into the beam
distruction = going to harbinger
control = jumping in the mako


it was a really good catch and it supports the "hallucination" bit but it seems like saying the endings are an actual direction you're walking seems to be a bit of a stretch

[CreepingGeth]

My favorite thing about the theory so far aside from the obvious waking up ending is the eyes.

[Nighthunteer]

smargh1015 wrote...

Nighthunteer wrote...


I put them together for you all!
Well done OP that got them!

what does this mean?

Another dot for the dreaming / indoc theory!

[Ichinei]

haha thats an awesome find, hope it means something, question though are those mako wheels on the other side as well or just on the left side?
edit: found nights original post, no such shapes on the other side

Modifié par Ichinei, 14 mars 2012 - 09:47 .

[LOST SPARTANJLC]

Fat Headed Wolf wrote...

Martukis wrote...

ChrisSheppy wrote...

angryjon wrote...

ProdigalMaster wrote...

This might have been mentioned before, but there are odd similarities
between the "semi-real" area Shepard wakes up in after Harbinger's blast ,
and the god-child's area. The first one is pretty obvious:


i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u405/ProdigalMaster/ME3real.jpg
i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u405/ProdigalMaster/ME3dream.jpg


This
one is a bit odd, is it just crazy coincidence? Remember that the
god-child area is not symmetrical, on the opposite right side there are
no such shapes.

i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u405/ProdigalMaster/ME3real2.jpg
i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u405/ProdigalMaster/ME3dream2.jpg

Definitely a nice catch.. I wouldn't be surprised if the two areas are in fact the same..

If the areas were in fact the same, then the Synthesis option would mean that Shepard jumps into the beam which will bring him up to the Citadel, interesting...

 And rushing for "destruction" leads to charging at Harbringer... Hrm..

Very interesting stuff... 

But the problem is you only wake up in the destroy ending vs the other ones.

[Tygur]

smargh1015 wrote...

Nighthunteer wrote...


I put them together for you all!
Well done OP that got them!

what does this mean?

Think too much is being read into this. Of course the beam would look the same, its the same beam. And for the wheels, the number is wrong, its a common design element, and I think its just a stretch.

[Niemack Saarinen]

Ichinei wrote...

haha thats an awesome find, hope it means something, question though are those mako wheels on the other side as well or just on the left side?

just the left-   theres a overturned APC on the right side on fire (red) though which the guy didnt take a picture of.

[Evil_medved]

Nighthunteer wrote...


I put them together for you all!
Well done OP that got them!

The hell.

[Nighthunteer]

blooregard wrote...

Nighthunteer wrote...


I put them together for you all!
Well done OP that got them!

so synthisis = going into the beam
distruction = going to harbinger
control = jumping in the mako


it was a really good catch and it supports the "hallucination" bit but it seems like saying the endings are an actual direction you're walking seems to be a bit of a stretch

Well, it might not be that shep actully moves in the real world as he is dreaming. But that this was the last image he saw before being knocked out. His dream mirroed it!