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#12301
Reptilian Rob

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AlexPorto111 wrote...

N3vDawg wrote...

@masseffect favorited this tweet:

Sarah Lynn ‏ @VideoGamerNerd

@masseffect You have done something amazing. I can't believe so few people have caught on to it yet! I trust you guys! <3


Holy ****!!

The.DLC.Is.Real.

Or she could be refering to you finishing the trilogy?

Modifié par Reptilian Rob, 15 mars 2012 - 12:41 .


#12302
Ona Demonie

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AlexPorto111 wrote...

N3vDawg wrote...

@masseffect favorited this tweet:

Sarah Lynn ‏ @VideoGamerNerd

@masseffect You have done something amazing. I can't believe so few people have caught on to it yet! I trust you guys! <3


Holy ****!!

The.DLC.Is.Real.

What's your evidence? All we know is that someone favorited that tweet. Unless you know Sarah Lynn's tweet, this doesn't prove anything.

#12303
N3vDawg

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Ona Demonie wrote...

BlamBlamKerpow wrote...

*snip*

On 4chan, there was an image where it showed new MP related content. The poster also said that the endings would be included within this MP pack and it would be free. Claimed he was a minor BioWare employee. Another one (or the same one) did give out accurate info about ME2 DLC back in 2010.

How do you know it's the same one? Not doubting you, just curious.<3

#12304
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BlamBlamKerpow wrote...

What if the big plan is multiple DLC packs of ending scenarios?


wow... you may be right aout that actually :o I sure wouldnt bet against it...

#12305
N3vDawg

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Ona Demonie wrote...

AlexPorto111 wrote...

N3vDawg wrote...

@masseffect favorited this tweet:

Sarah Lynn ‏ @VideoGamerNerd

@masseffect You have done something amazing. I can't believe so few people have caught on to it yet! I trust you guys! <3


Holy ****!!

The.DLC.Is.Real.

What's your evidence? All we know is that someone favorited that tweet. Unless you know Sarah Lynn's tweet, this doesn't prove anything.

Sarah's tweet is "You have done something amazing. I can't believe so few people have caught on to it yet! I trust you guys! <3" Twitter can be.... confusing at times.

Modifié par N3vDawg, 15 mars 2012 - 12:43 .


#12306
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DarkDoc25 wrote...

There is one hole in this theory that you may want to plug.  Sheppard doesn't necessarily live in the "Destroy" ending.  You have to "save" Anderson from TIM and have at least 4000 war assets, or not "save" him from TIM and have at least 5000 war assets.  This is the only way to get the ending that implies he/she lives.  Otherwise you don't get this ending even if you choose the Destroy option.  All you get is the Reapers being destroyed and Earth being saved.

I say you may want to plug it because I like your theory.  I didn't hate the endings, but they did feel off to me.  I still don't get how Javik got off of the Normandy at the end when he was with me during the charge to the Conduit.  And the fact that Anderson's choice was renegade while TIM's was paragon doesn't sit well with me.

The theory is that the Normandy crash landing scene is Shepard's way to get closure, imagining his friends and LI have landed on a beautiful, lush island. 

As for the renegade/paragon choice, the theory is that this is BioWare's attempt to trick the player (BioWare's attempt to indoctrinate the player). 

Anderson is worth 1000 war points, by the way. 

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DarkDoc25 wrote...

There is one hole in this theory that you may want to plug.  Sheppard doesn't necessarily live in the "Destroy" ending.  You have to "save" Anderson from TIM and have at least 4000 war assets, or not "save" him from TIM and have at least 5000 war assets.  This is the only way to get the ending that implies he/she lives.  Otherwise you don't get this ending even if you choose the Destroy option.  All you get is the Reapers being destroyed and Earth being saved.

I say you may want to plug it because I like your theory.  I didn't hate the endings, but they did feel off to me.  I still don't get how Javik got off of the Normandy at the end when he was with me during the charge to the Conduit.  And the fact that Anderson's choice was renegade while TIM's was paragon doesn't sit well with me.

Not so. Shepard won't live in the case you are describing because the military is doomed to lose with that strength level, so there is no purpose in living. If your score is high enough you possess the ability to actually win the war, so keeping you alive is crucial to the effort.

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Ona Demonie

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N3vDawg wrote...

Ona Demonie wrote...

AlexPorto111 wrote...

N3vDawg wrote...

@masseffect favorited this tweet:

Sarah Lynn ‏ @VideoGamerNerd

@masseffect You have done something amazing. I can't believe so few people have caught on to it yet! I trust you guys! <3


Holy ****!!

The.DLC.Is.Real.

What's your evidence? All we know is that someone favorited that tweet. Unless you know Sarah Lynn's tweet, this doesn't prove anything.

Sarah's tweet is "You have done something amazing. I can't believe so few people have caught on to it yet! I trust you guys! <3" Twitter can be.... confusing at times.

Yes. Sarah Lynn = BioWare employee?

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Someone mentioned that the bit where you meet god child looks like places shep had been, specifically right at the end with thbe blown up truck. Proly not related but there is a bit at the start of the geth dreadnaught that is setup very similarly to the bit where you meet godchild. With a red terminal and blue terminal on either side of the entrance.

#12310
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AlexPorto111 wrote...

N3vDawg wrote...

@masseffect favorited this tweet:

Sarah Lynn ‏ @VideoGamerNerd

@masseffect You have done something amazing. I can't believe so few people have caught on to it yet! I trust you guys! <3


Holy ****!!

The.DLC.Is.Real.


Eh... Dunno. Seems more like masseffect favorites anythign that involves saying the game is amazing. Don't put too much stock in it.

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N3vDawg wrote...

Ona Demonie wrote...

AlexPorto111 wrote...

N3vDawg wrote...

@masseffect favorited this tweet:

Sarah Lynn ‏ @VideoGamerNerd

@masseffect You have done something amazing. I can't believe so few people have caught on to it yet! I trust you guys! <3


Holy ****!!

The.DLC.Is.Real.

What's your evidence? All we know is that someone favorited that tweet. Unless you know Sarah Lynn's tweet, this doesn't prove anything.

Sarah's tweet is "You have done something amazing. I can't believe so few people have caught on to it yet! I trust you guys! <3" Twitter can be.... confusing at times.


so this is just a tweet someone sent but has not received a response to?

#12312
Ona Demonie

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N3vDawg wrote...

Ona Demonie wrote...

BlamBlamKerpow wrote...

*snip*

On 4chan, there was an image where it showed new MP related content. The poster also said that the endings would be included within this MP pack and it would be free. Claimed he was a minor BioWare employee. Another one (or the same one) did give out accurate info about ME2 DLC back in 2010.

How do you know it's the same one? Not doubting you, just curious.<3

It COULD be the same one, since the first time we heard about ME2 info, it was DLC-centered. What he said about LotSB was accurate once people played it. Now, we're getting info about ME3... and it's DLC-centered. 

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Anderson is worth 1000 war points, by the way. 


That old man is worth 1000 points, and Diana Allers only 5? :blink: 

He is running around on earth hiding like a hobo, Diana is using mass media to bolster morale throughout the galaxy.

#12314
N3vDawg

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Ona Demonie wrote...

N3vDawg wrote...

Ona Demonie wrote...

AlexPorto111 wrote...

N3vDawg wrote...

@masseffect favorited this tweet:

Sarah Lynn ‏ @VideoGamerNerd

@masseffect You have done something amazing. I can't believe so few people have caught on to it yet! I trust you guys! <3


Holy ****!!

The.DLC.Is.Real.

What's your evidence? All we know is that someone favorited that tweet. Unless you know Sarah Lynn's tweet, this doesn't prove anything.

Sarah's tweet is "You have done something amazing. I can't believe so few people have caught on to it yet! I trust you guys! <3" Twitter can be.... confusing at times.

Yes. Sarah Lynn = BioWare employee?

Huh? No, I think she's just a fan. Don't know where you got that from.

#12315
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SomeoneStoleMyName wrote...

Anderson is worth 1000 war points, by the way. 


That old man is worth 1000 points, and Diana Allers only 5? :blink: 

He is running around on earth hiding like a hobo, Diana is using mass media to bolster morale throughout the galaxy.


Because he is the GODDAMN ANDERSON!:o

#12316
Ona Demonie

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SomeoneStoleMyName wrote...

Anderson is worth 1000 war points, by the way. 


That old man is worth 1000 points, and Diana Allers only 5? :blink: 

He is running around on earth hiding like a hobo, Diana is using mass media to bolster morale throughout the galaxy.

How about the fact that Anderson is leading the ground troops the entire time, fighting off reaper forces and recruiting people, while Diana Allers stands there in her room and licks PSPs all day?

#12317
N3vDawg

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Ona Demonie wrote...

SomeoneStoleMyName wrote...

Anderson is worth 1000 war points, by the way. 


That old man is worth 1000 points, and Diana Allers only 5? :blink: 

He is running around on earth hiding like a hobo, Diana is using mass media to bolster morale throughout the galaxy.

How about the fact that Anderson is leading the ground troops the entire time, fighting off reaper forces and recruiting people, while Diana Allers stands there in her room and licks PSPs all day?

Lol, PSPs

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Welder0 wrote...

I just got my CE. On the insert that holds the patch and stuff is some artwork.

It's a red gauntleted hand reaching down to an unarmored hand reaching up.

Since I have yet to start the game, I'm assuming this is set in the London ruins...

This may be old news, but I'm just getting up to speed here.


I think that's supposed to be Vancouver from the beginning of the game.  The buildings on the insert don't look like the ones in London.

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everytime dlc is leaked is real

it happened with from ashes and with sfxtk (plus a bunch of other games)

#12320
Ona Demonie

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N3vDawg wrote...

Ona Demonie wrote...

N3vDawg wrote...

Ona Demonie wrote...

AlexPorto111 wrote...

N3vDawg wrote...

@masseffect favorited this tweet:

Sarah Lynn ‏ @VideoGamerNerd

@masseffect You have done something amazing. I can't believe so few people have caught on to it yet! I trust you guys! <3


Holy ****!!

The.DLC.Is.Real.

What's your evidence? All we know is that someone favorited that tweet. Unless you know Sarah Lynn's tweet, this doesn't prove anything.

Sarah's tweet is "You have done something amazing. I can't believe so few people have caught on to it yet! I trust you guys! <3" Twitter can be.... confusing at times.

Yes. Sarah Lynn = BioWare employee?

Huh? No, I think she's just a fan. Don't know where you got that from.

Sorry. I don't see how the DLC is real when a fan is saying TO mass effect that tweet. SHE believes that something awesome happened, but masseffect may have saw it differently.

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We no longer need evidence, Mordin and Kaidan agree with us. How can them geniuses be wrong?! :P

@Lt_Alenko you support the #IndoctrinationTheory too?! How could we be wrong with your brains on our side, just need @ProfessorMordin now

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@Lummo @ProfessorMordin It definitely has the most evidence to support it out of any engage interpretation

@ProfessorMordin
@Lummo //In regards to the "secret ending"? Oh hell yes, its the only possible answer.

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DarkDoc25 wrote...

There is one hole in this theory that you may want to plug.  Sheppard doesn't necessarily live in the "Destroy" ending.  You have to "save" Anderson from TIM and have at least 4000 war assets, or not "save" him from TIM and have at least 5000 war assets.  This is the only way to get the ending that implies he/she lives.  Otherwise you don't get this ending even if you choose the Destroy option.  All you get is the Reapers being destroyed and Earth being saved.

I say you may want to plug it because I like your theory.  I didn't hate the endings, but they did feel off to me.  I still don't get how Javik got off of the Normandy at the end when he was with me during the charge to the Conduit.  And the fact that Anderson's choice was renegade while TIM's was paragon doesn't sit well with me.



I see your point but all that actually happens is that you don’t see if he survives or not... not exactly a solid, definitive reply, but not necessarily a giant hole in the theory...   
My take would be this... the decision to shoot Illusive Man is a renegade decision... perhaps that fits but under the circumstances it would seem like a fairly positive decision to me… however, in the context of this theory, it ties in that this action is flagged as renegade because it defeats the ends of the Reapers... thus, allowing Anderson to die and/or not bringing a big enough fleet to challenge the Reapers would lead to Sheperds death... given the number of assumptions necessary to consider this entire issue its quite a complicated thought process, frustrated further by the influence of our own desires to believe anything but the ending we were given.

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DarkDoc25 wrote...

Welder0 wrote...

I just got my CE. On the insert that holds the patch and stuff is some artwork.

It's a red gauntleted hand reaching down to an unarmored hand reaching up.

Since I have yet to start the game, I'm assuming this is set in the London ruins...

This may be old news, but I'm just getting up to speed here.


I think that's supposed to be Vancouver from the beginning of the game.  The buildings on the insert don't look like the ones in London.

I checked it out and I would agree. It definitely looks like vancouver

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Little Lummo wrote...

We no longer need evidence, Mordin and Kaidan agree with us. How can them geniuses be wrong?! :P

@Lt_Alenko you support the #IndoctrinationTheory too?! How could we be wrong with your brains on our side, just need @ProfessorMordin now

@Lt_Alenko
@Lummo @ProfessorMordin It definitely has the most evidence to support it out of any engage interpretation

@ProfessorMordin
@Lummo //In regards to the "secret ending"? Oh hell yes, its the only possible answer.


LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!:lol::lol::lol::lol:

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DarkDoc25 wrote...

Welder0 wrote...

I just got my CE. On the insert that holds the patch and stuff is some artwork.

It's a red gauntleted hand reaching down to an unarmored hand reaching up.

Since I have yet to start the game, I'm assuming this is set in the London ruins...

This may be old news, but I'm just getting up to speed here.


I think that's supposed to be Vancouver from the beginning of the game.  The buildings on the insert don't look like the ones in London.


I disagree, I think the structure in the background of the artwork looks just like the structure around the conduit to the Citadel. It also looks like a Reaper beam just struck, look how the rubble is glowing hot behind the hands.