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SomeoneStoleMyName wrote...

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This is my theory about what happens (apologies if someone has stated this before. If you believe the indoctrination theory. What you see in the end is Shepard breathing or dead. Either way his story ends here as the protagonist. He wont get up anytime soon.

What then happens is me4. A new protagonist starts off going into the citadel and finishing the reapers off. Celebrations ensue where you're shepard is a crippled living legend/statue. However you're new protagonist realises that something deeper stirs in space hence a new trilogy begins using another protagonist.

Bioware gets a new trilogy, an artistic ending where Shepard isn't a failure as he managed to unite the galaxy but being only "human" could not do everything. He laid the ground work through his decisions. However bioware can continue the universe with a new protagonist and a new squad.

Either way bioware stated Shepard story ends here.


No.

The devs specifically said they have no intention of turning Mass effect into "Lost".


Hopefully at the end of the day they dont.  But at this point in time id say this thread is very "lost" like.

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MasterMenace wrote...

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i think bioware is having a little too much fun trolling us.  Granted they probably wanted to see what it felt like after dragon age 2.  

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MJF JD wrote...

MasterMenace wrote...

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i think bioware is having a little too much fun trolling us.  Granted they probably wanted to see what it felt like after dragon age 2.  

He's probably just saying that we don't have imaginations...

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MJF JD wrote...

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i think bioware is having a little too much fun trolling us.  Granted they probably wanted to see what it felt like after dragon age 2.  


Watch the language please.

Anyway, all that stuff about the humming sound?  On Tuchanka when the tomkas stop, you can hear a humming sound there too.  Also near a Reaper.  Will keep an eye out for any more audio oddities on the mission, going through 2nd run atm.

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MJF JD wrote...

MasterMenace wrote...

https://twitter.com/...967731070799872


i think bioware is having a little too much fun trolling us.  Granted they probably wanted to see what it felt like after dragon age 2.  

Oh god.... You're right. What have we done! D:

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I just got my CE. On the insert that holds the patch and stuff is some artwork.

It's a red gauntleted hand reaching down to an unarmored hand reaching up.

Since I have yet to start the game, I'm assuming this is set in the London ruins...

This may be old news, but I'm just getting up to speed here.


I think that's supposed to be Vancouver from the beginning of the game.  The buildings on the insert don't look like the ones in London.


I disagree, I think the structure in the background of the artwork looks just like the structure around the conduit to the Citadel. It also looks like a Reaper beam just struck, look how the rubble is glowing hot behind the hands.


That looks nothing like the Conduit structure from the end of the game.  The Conduit structure is more rounded on the edges.  Also, look at the insert, the structure you're talking about is on fire.  I think it's supposed to be Vancouver during the initial Reaper invasion.

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Ya know why I know shep won't die? Because tali wAnted more time and by god she is gonna get it.

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Rifneno wrote...

MJF JD wrote...

MasterMenace wrote...

https://twitter.com/...967731070799872


i think bioware is having a little too much fun trolling us.  Granted they probably wanted to see what it felt like after dragon age 2.  


Watch the language please.

Anyway, all that stuff about the humming sound?  On Tuchanka when the tomkas stop, you can hear a humming sound there too.  Also near a Reaper.  Will keep an eye out for any more audio oddities on the mission, going through 2nd run atm.


I apologize for my outburst ;)

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blooregard wrote...

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*snip*

On 4chan, there was an image where it showed new MP related content. The poster also said that the endings would be included within this MP pack and it would be free. Claimed he was a minor BioWare employee. Another one (or the same one) did give out accurate info about ME2 DLC back in 2010.

How do you know it's the same one? Not doubting you, just curious.<3

It COULD be the same one, since the first time we heard about ME2 info, it was DLC-centered. What he said about LotSB was accurate once people played it. Now, we're getting info about ME3... and it's DLC-centered. 




but you know you're still trusting 4chan to be honest/correct. Just because they were accurate before doesn't mean its the same person or they'll be accurate this time around. Lets stick with our optimism that bioware won't leave us hanging the like this

Did I say I was trusting the source? No. I simply stated previous information. I'm adding fuel to the fire.

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SomeoneStoleMyName wrote...

ejkeecha wrote...

This is my theory about what happens (apologies if someone has stated this before. If you believe the indoctrination theory. What you see in the end is Shepard breathing or dead. Either way his story ends here as the protagonist. He wont get up anytime soon.

What then happens is me4. A new protagonist starts off going into the citadel and finishing the reapers off. Celebrations ensue where you're shepard is a crippled living legend/statue. However you're new protagonist realises that something deeper stirs in space hence a new trilogy begins using another protagonist.

Bioware gets a new trilogy, an artistic ending where Shepard isn't a failure as he managed to unite the galaxy but being only "human" could not do everything. He laid the ground work through his decisions. However bioware can continue the universe with a new protagonist and a new squad.

Either way bioware stated Shepard story ends here.


No.

The devs specifically said they have no intention of turning Mass effect into "Lost".

If they intended for it not to turn into Lost, they arent's off to a good start.

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something i just thought of that i haven't seen posted yet

in mass effect 2, if you chose to side with morinth and kill samara, you could make an attempt to mate with morinth. she tries to convince you that you're strong minded enough to survive but if you go through with it, you die.

hearing space boy at the end of mass effect 3 talk about me being strong enough to control the reapers made me think of this.

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Pathero wrote...

Ya know why I know shep won't die? Because tali wAnted more time and by god she is gonna get it.


You speak the truth.:wub::wub::wub:<3<3<3

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Reptilian Rob wrote...

MJF JD wrote...

MasterMenace wrote...

https://twitter.com/...967731070799872


i think bioware is having a little too much fun trolling us.  Granted they probably wanted to see what it felt like after dragon age 2.  

He's probably just saying that we don't have imaginations...

They better add a happy ending and question did they add ending dlc for DA2 Never played it 

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Pathero wrote...

Ya know why I know shep won't die? Because tali wAnted more time and by god she is gonna get it.


gotta build her that damn house

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Peer of the Empire wrote...

I have wonderd what bioware was going to do for ME3 dlc and the indoctrinated ending makes sense.  Very elegant


There is no DLC that can happen at all and make any sense or even be worth playing if the end remains the end as is.  Why play any DLC if the outcome remains as is current?  Why replay with a different Shepard if the end remains as is.

There is thus SOME hope that either a DLC to actually provide real endings (plural) OR an unlock to get to the endings (plural) that are already encoded in the software.

We'll see.  If they just start dumping out DLC having to do with missions prior to the current ending then they are nonstarters.

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noobcannon wrote...

Pathero wrote...

Ya know why I know shep won't die? Because tali wAnted more time and by god she is gonna get it.


gotta build her that damn house


YES!!!!!!!

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noobcannon wrote...

something i just thought of that i haven't seen posted yet

in mass effect 2, if you chose to side with morinth and kill samara, you could make an attempt to mate with morinth. she tries to convince you that you're strong minded enough to survive but if you go through with it, you die.

hearing space boy at the end of mass effect 3 talk about me being strong enough to control the reapers made me think of this.


heavy risk, but the priiize...

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Randoms: you type in winter space into google images- get a picture that looks kinda familar :S

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MasterMenace wrote...

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At least they're having fun, someone around here ought to be. Any info is better than no info, even if it is teasing hintings.

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noobcannon wrote...

Pathero wrote...

Ya know why I know shep won't die? Because tali wAnted more time and by god she is gonna get it.


gotta build her that damn house


DLC in 5 months: Mass Effect 3: SimRannoch - With the new DLC you have you get to experience all the excitement of building homes for the Quarians on Rannoch! 1 story, two story? The choice is yours!

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Reptilian Rob wrote...

blooregard wrote...

Ona Demonie wrote...

N3vDawg wrote...

Ona Demonie wrote...

BlamBlamKerpow wrote...

*snip*

On 4chan, there was an image where it showed new MP related content. The poster also said that the endings would be included within this MP pack and it would be free. Claimed he was a minor BioWare employee. Another one (or the same one) did give out accurate info about ME2 DLC back in 2010.

How do you know it's the same one? Not doubting you, just curious.<3

It COULD be the same one, since the first time we heard about ME2 info, it was DLC-centered. What he said about LotSB was accurate once people played it. Now, we're getting info about ME3... and it's DLC-centered. 




but you know you're still trusting 4chan to be honest/correct. Just because they were accurate before doesn't mean its the same person or they'll be accurate this time around. Lets stick with our optimism that bioware won't leave us hanging the like this

You guys will be very depressed to find out he's trolling you...




a word of advice: if they say they're an employee of any video game company don't trust them. If they're right assume damn lucky guess but NEVER accept what they say as fact or even remotely correct such things can be hazardous to one's mental functions

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EDIT: Wrong thread....eh:pinched:

Modifié par People4Peace, 15 mars 2012 - 01:28 .


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Reptilian Rob wrote...

MJF JD wrote...

MasterMenace wrote...

https://twitter.com/...967731070799872


i think bioware is having a little too much fun trolling us.  Granted they probably wanted to see what it felt like after dragon age 2.  

He's probably just saying that we don't have imaginations...


That "no imaginations" would apply to about 90% of the players, not just those here (an extreme minority). 

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Getorex wrote...

Peer of the Empire wrote...

I have wonderd what bioware was going to do for ME3 dlc and the indoctrinated ending makes sense.  Very elegant


There is no DLC that can happen at all and make any sense or even be worth playing if the end remains the end as is.  Why play any DLC if the outcome remains as is current?  Why replay with a different Shepard if the end remains as is.

There is thus SOME hope that either a DLC to actually provide real endings (plural) OR an unlock to get to the endings (plural) that are already encoded in the software.

We'll see.  If they just start dumping out DLC having to do with missions prior to the current ending then they are nonstarters.


i think alot of people feel that way. no one is going to want any dlc unless we get the new ending first. if they show up at pax and start talking about multi player maps or new armor, there is gonna be one hell of a **** storm.