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Auresta

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CheeseJam wrote...

Probably been posted, but just in case it hasn't: http://i1115.photobu...31778596081.png


Elaborate? Did you edit this? 

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Playing my Renegade character.

On Thessia.

Liara: "Goddess, its like a nightmare!"
Shepard: "We just have to defeat the Reapers, and then we can all wake up!"

Oh, Shepard, why must even you taunt me?

Modifié par byne, 15 mars 2012 - 02:45 .


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Rifneno wrote...
I don't know anything about AC, but the ME team has always done just ridiculous levels of detail.  Remember that Prothean artifact on Eletania that gives Shepard a vision of Protheans observing early humans?  Whether you activated that thing and saw the vision is kept through ME2 and ME3 imports, allowing you a bit of dialogue with Javik about it.  DA's imported saves don't bother keeping the flags of world-altering decisions and ME saves whether you messed with an orb 2 games ago to give you an extra couple lines of dialogue.

We're not "reaching" like opponents of the theory claim.  They clearly haven't been paying attention, because this is exactly the sort of attention to detail that makes ME's writing what it is.  Back when people talked about the Klendagon description during ME1, I'm sure they got this same garbage.  I know I did months back when I overanalyzed the star behind TIM in ME2 after a dev interview said it was a clue to his location.  I said I don't know where he is, but that's a supergiant behind him, an extremely rare type of star.  Oh, look at that, is that a supergiant behind TIM's base?  Why, I do believe it is.  People will throw garbage at this no matter how much evidence you put forth because the people screaming "denial" are the ones with the closed minds.  And what's really sad is that when they DO release the real finish, those people will dislocate their shoulders patting themselves on the back as they assure themselves that BW just threw that ending together, no matter how complex it is and how fast they put it out, because of our theorizing.

...  Sometimes I get why Reapers hate organics so much.

Most notable details with Assassin's Creed is the end of the very first game. Activate your eagle vision and EVERYTHING around you is covered in symbols and codes. Players spent a long time going through all of them to piece together what Assasin's Creed was about: 2012 Doomsday.

But back on topic, I didn't have the console needed to play ME1, but wow... In ME3, there were tons of minor details, like Blue Rose of Illium or how the Asari in Huerta knew and killed Joker's sister.

#12504
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So, I have a question that I think hasn't been asked: did anyone else find it really weird that the stargazer kid calls him THE Shepard? I thought it was

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@masseffect 99% of the game was flawless. The ending stripped us of all choice and consequence and lacked a proper resolution.

Mass Effect ‏ @masseffect
@illusivedude If you had to guess, what is the crew of the Normandy doing now?

Awful lot of suspicious things they're saying.
They're either getting back at us for not liking their ending or they've got something good planned.

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Elaborate? Did you edit this?  

Just saw it on GameFAQs,not really sure what it is. If not modified, it seems pretty significant.

Modifié par CheeseJam, 15 mars 2012 - 02:46 .


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byne wrote...

Playing my Renegade character.

On Thessia.

Liara: "Goddess, its like a nightmare!"
Shepard: "We just have to defeat the Reapers, and then we can all wake up!"


Oh, Shepard, why must even you taunt me?


We could be reading too much into dialogue like that, but BW DID do hardcore foreshadowing with DA2 dialogue.  "It's time we end this charade."  "And boom!  Justice and I are separated."  "May you find a balm for your soul here."

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Something I have been thinking about when I read posts saying that the relays and the citadel get destroyed no matter what. Remember the Citadel isn't destroyed in the control ending.

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Auresta wrote...

CheeseJam wrote...

Probably been posted, but just in case it hasn't: http://i1115.photobu...31778596081.png


Elaborate? Did you edit this? 

That red dot... It's exactly like the Reaper when it spoke to Shepard back on Rannoch.

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Auresta wrote...

CheeseJam wrote...

Probably been posted, but just in case it hasn't: http://i1115.photobu...31778596081.png


Elaborate? Did you edit this? 


It is the model for the kid out of the PCC files.  I have posted quite a few of them in this thread also.  The kid one didn't really stick out with anything special though, atleast to me :huh:

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Samurai Wes wrote...

theffernan wrote...

Dunno if this has been posted, just thought I'd mention something Javik just said to me.

"Subjugating the Reapers will not bring victory, only their extinction will."


That's Javik for you.  It's probably true, but remember he hates AI.  He also tells you to throw Legion out the airlock.



And he may be right about that too.  Because as I recall, Legion ends up uploading Reaper code into all the Geth.  Hell, even as I was letting it happen in the game I was going, "Oh, that can't turn out well.".

#12512
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Dorfgonewild81 wrote...

Auresta wrote...

CheeseJam wrote...

Probably been posted, but just in case it hasn't: http://i1115.photobu...31778596081.png


Elaborate? Did you edit this? 


It is the model for the kid out of the PCC files.  I have posted quite a few of them in this thread also.  The kid one didn't really stick out with anything special though, atleast to me :huh:


It says harbinger on the top left.

Modifié par Auresta, 15 mars 2012 - 02:47 .


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Auresta wrote...

CheeseJam wrote...

Probably been posted, but just in case it hasn't: http://i1115.photobu...31778596081.png


Elaborate? Did you edit this? 

Please do...B)

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If theres no edit to that then, HOLY SH*T

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twitter.com/#!/JessicaMerizan/status/180099593084743680

Seems interesting...
 

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Dorfgonewild81 wrote...

Auresta wrote...

CheeseJam wrote...

Probably been posted, but just in case it hasn't: http://i1115.photobu...31778596081.png


Elaborate? Did you edit this? 


It is the model for the kid out of the PCC files.  I have posted quite a few of them in this thread also.  The kid one didn't really stick out with anything special though, atleast to me :huh:

It's the name that sticks out. Has "Harbringer" in it.


http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k559/michaelrsa/1331778596081.png

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Auresta wrote...

Dorfgonewild81 wrote...

Auresta wrote...

CheeseJam wrote...

Probably been posted, but just in case it hasn't: http://i1115.photobu...31778596081.png


Elaborate? Did you edit this? 


It is the model for the kid out of the PCC files.  I have posted quite a few of them in this thread also.  The kid one didn't really stick out with anything special though, atleast to me :huh:


It says harbinger on the top left.


Holy hell....

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Ona Demonie wrote...

Rifneno wrote...
I don't know anything about AC, but the ME team has always done just ridiculous levels of detail.  Remember that Prothean artifact on Eletania that gives Shepard a vision of Protheans observing early humans?  Whether you activated that thing and saw the vision is kept through ME2 and ME3 imports, allowing you a bit of dialogue with Javik about it.  DA's imported saves don't bother keeping the flags of world-altering decisions and ME saves whether you messed with an orb 2 games ago to give you an extra couple lines of dialogue.

We're not "reaching" like opponents of the theory claim.  They clearly haven't been paying attention, because this is exactly the sort of attention to detail that makes ME's writing what it is.  Back when people talked about the Klendagon description during ME1, I'm sure they got this same garbage.  I know I did months back when I overanalyzed the star behind TIM in ME2 after a dev interview said it was a clue to his location.  I said I don't know where he is, but that's a supergiant behind him, an extremely rare type of star.  Oh, look at that, is that a supergiant behind TIM's base?  Why, I do believe it is.  People will throw garbage at this no matter how much evidence you put forth because the people screaming "denial" are the ones with the closed minds.  And what's really sad is that when they DO release the real finish, those people will dislocate their shoulders patting themselves on the back as they assure themselves that BW just threw that ending together, no matter how complex it is and how fast they put it out, because of our theorizing.

...  Sometimes I get why Reapers hate organics so much.

Most notable details with Assassin's Creed is the end of the very first game. Activate your eagle vision and EVERYTHING around you is covered in symbols and codes. Players spent a long time going through all of them to piece together what Assasin's Creed was about: 2012 Doomsday.

But back on topic, I didn't have the console needed to play ME1, but wow... In ME3, there were tons of minor details, like Blue Rose of Illium or how the Asari in Huerta knew and killed Joker's sister.



That Asari killed Joker's sister?!:blink:  Screw War Assets, I just might let her have that gun anyway....

#12521
Ona Demonie

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Auresta wrote...

Dorfgonewild81 wrote...

Auresta wrote...

CheeseJam wrote...

Probably been posted, but just in case it hasn't: http://i1115.photobu...31778596081.png


Elaborate? Did you edit this? 


It is the model for the kid out of the PCC files.  I have posted quite a few of them in this thread also.  The kid one didn't really stick out with anything special though, atleast to me :huh:


It says harbinger on the top left.

...Holy ****. And I thought the clue was the red dot in his head.

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CheeseJam wrote...

Probably been posted, but just in case it hasn't: http://i1115.photobu...31778596081.png



Seems like a strange name for a human child.

Modifié par Ellythe, 15 mars 2012 - 02:49 .


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A quick question, if I may, for a theory I'm mulling over: Do you get the ending with Joker and Edi emerging from the crashed Normandy with every ending you choose? I chose synergy myself, so saw it. But what about the other options?

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Auresta wrote...

Dorfgonewild81 wrote...

Auresta wrote...

CheeseJam wrote...

Probably been posted, but just in case it hasn't: http://i1115.photobu...31778596081.png


Elaborate? Did you edit this? 


It is the model for the kid out of the PCC files.  I have posted quite a few of them in this thread also.  The kid one didn't really stick out with anything special though, atleast to me :huh:


It says harbinger on the top left.



HMM_ARM_HARBINGER_GRD_MDL


...intriguing

#12525
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Jurgwug wrote...

So, I have a question that I think hasn't been asked: did anyone else find it really weird that the stargazer kid calls him THE Shepard? I thought it was

2deep4u
A Shepherd is a person who protects, guides, or watches over a person or group of people.
At the same time, a shepherd is a person who herds, tends, and guards sheep. 
"The Shepard" is also a title for Jesus Christ.  
Shepard does all of these things, thus the allusion to Jesus Christ, the Savior.